Romney Flip-Flops On Voting Rights; Santorum Capitalizes; Jack Abramoff Laughs
Rick Santorum has been angry for days over an ad from Mitt Romney's SuperPAC claiming Santorum supports letting criminals vote. Unfortunately, Santorum's position is a bit more nuanced than Romney claims, and if there's anything Republicans don't fully understand, it's nuance.
We begin with Juan Williams asking the question:
Senator Santorum, today you said Governor Romney is guilty of distorting your record as well as of "lies and hypocrisy". You said this behavior is classic Romney and no one's holding him accountable. So, the same question that Kelly asked, this time to you.
Should these barbed personal attacks against fellow Republicans be abandoned by the candidates?
This launched a snowball of -- you guessed it -- personal attacks. Personal attacks launched while claiming to be above the fray. Personally, I was gratified to see them take aim at Romney. Until now, they've avoided it at all costs and it's probably too late now to make any difference, but it's still something worth doing.
After the obligatory self-congratulations from Santorum, he lays out his objection to Romney's SuperPAC attack.
SANTORUM: Governor Romney's SuperPAC has put an ad out there suggesting that I voted to allow felons to be able to vote from prison because they said I allowed felons to vote and they put up a prisoner - uh, a person in a prison jumpsuit.
I would ask Governor Romney, do you believe people who are felons who have served their time, who have exhausted their parole and probation, should they be given the right to vote?
Romney then exercises his right as the frontrunner to filibuster, going on about how he doesn't know what his SuperPAC does, blah blah blah. Santorum interrupts, requesting an answer to his question. It was kind of a nice contentious moment, actually. The audience agreed. As an aside, the audience reaction at this debate was really weird. It was like watching a football game, or lions eating centurions or something.
This was also the first of many interludes where Mr. Romney let his arrogance hang out all over the stage. He was determined to be the frontrunner and to swagger around letting everyone know that, too. Honestly, Santorum's question was a good one, but Mr. Romney tried very hard to filibuster it to his advantage.
Santorum used the moment to pander a bit to the African-American community as he reminded Mr. Romney that this was a big deal to them, and it was, after all Martin Luther King day. There was also a lot of this kind of condescension all night. Between Newt telling black women they could marry their way out of poverty to Rick Perry just whistling Dixie all night long to his faithful dogs in the audience, it was laden with classic Republican patrician disdain for those who aren't white or fortunate. At any rate, Santorum pointed out that there are disproportionately high incarceration rates among African-Americans, particularly on drug charges. This is true, though he neglected to point out that the Obama administration has sought to find a balance on drug policy and incarceration rates.
Santorum clarifies further:
The bill I voted on was the Martin Luther King Voting Rights bill. And this was a provision that said, particularly targeted to Africans Americans [sic] and I voted to allow them to have their voting rights back once they completed their sentence. Do you agree with that?
To which Mitt Romney finally replies:
Yeah, I don't think people who have committed violent crimes should be allowed to vote again.
Note the qualifier. Jack Abramoff must have sighed a huge sigh of relief with that, given his own felony conviction and time served, parole served, and launch on the book tour shortly thereafter.
Santorum had laid a perfect trap, and Romney walked right into it. Straight in. With a smile, Santorum asked a follow-up question:
Very interesting you should say that," he said, "because in the state of Massachusetts when you were governor, the law was that not only could violent felons vote after they exhausted their sentences, but [they] could vote while they were on probation and parole, which was a more liberal position that I took when I voted for the bill in the Congress.
This was probably the only time in the entire debate I saw Romney really rattled, but Santorum did a great job knocking him off his rhythm, and most importantly, off his high horse. He managed to blame the Democrats in the Massachusetts legislature for that particular rule, but by then the damage was done. The ensuing back and forth did nothing to rehabilitate Romney, and ultimately Rick Santorum summarized exactly what had been said at the end of the exchange.
What the governor said is he didn't propose anything to change that law and what he's saying is that the ad that says that I said that I voted to allow felons to vote is inaccurate. And it is inaccurate, and if I had some SuperPAC that was supporting me that was inaccurate, I would go out and say "Stop it." That you're representing me and you're representing my campaign, just stop it.
Santorum's position is admirable, but I would be very surprised to discover that he ever suggested the SuperPACs who flogged the issue of Barack Obama's birth certificate or the Jeremiah Wright sermons as if Mr. Obama had written them himself should just "stop it." No, Santorum is all for civility between Republicans but not so much when running against Democrats. Have a look at some of his 2006 ads against Robert Casey.
At any rate, this round went to Mr. Santorum. Mitt Romney should consider being a little less overconfident about his nomination possibilities and a little bit more on the ball with regard to debate answers.




This is the week to tear him down, because after Saturday it will be pretty much over if he wins. He'll be so torn up by November, Mr. Obama will kick his butt easily.
The only votes this collection of turds will garner in November is the rich and the "anybody but the N****r" voters.
A perfect summary.
I was a PA lifer until 2000 when I moved to NC. Anyway, Rick Santorum has always been a smug swarmy little punk. He was the lap and attack dog of Elsie Hillman and Richard Mellon Scaife (Heritage Foundation; primary White Water provocatuer) when he first ran against Harris Wofford an incredible public servant (read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harris_Wofford ). Santorum ran a campaign of innuendo, name calling, lying, and the full gamut of dirty tricks. It worked, he helped Newt launch Contract with America, and we are stuck with both of these political hucksters. Everything about these men oozes evil.
Every day people are straying away from the church and going back to God.
~Lenny Bruce~
how most if not all of the present GOP candidates seem to be over the top caricaturesof what the "bad guys" should look and sound like?
This obviously almost guarantees Obama a second term; almost a facsimile of what a contest would look like. I can't help but think back to Michael Moore's comment that Wall Street has yet to put up a viable candidate to take down that "Socialist" Obama. Moore realized that once more Wall Street could pulling yet another "Jedi Mind Trick" in that Obama who has received the most funding to date form them is their guy.
So, boys and girls; keep your eyes on the shiny, shiny Republicans and pay no attention to all those Goldman Sachs guys slipping into the White house.
... almost makes Romney seem human, Santorum sane, Gingrich ethical and Perry smart.
Every day people are straying away from the church and going back to God.
~Lenny Bruce~
You almost sound paranoid vector56, almost. But don't worry - just because you're paranoid that doesn't mean they aren't out to get you...
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
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Hasa Diga Eebowai
field. If Romney's lips are moving he's lying his ass off; Frothy is taking a page from Paul's playbook to sound reasonable about something when all his schtick on everything else is filled with hate. I skip watching those ridiculous debates and then have to see excerpts on even liberal media.. ENOUGH!
kinda like watching a bad "B" movie where you constantly ask, "who did the GOP candidates have to blow to get into this movie?" The Plot is nonsense ; two dimensional candidates who promote the rich and want poor kids to clean bathrooms as slave wages. The directing is amateurish; a debate ever other day? Rachel MadCow peg it a few months back when she exposed Herman Cain's campaign as a "modern Arts project; theater, not politics.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/pajaroentertainmentlt...
Yes, Cain and this Koch brothers" from another mother" have "punked" us! So, I repeat; keep your eyes and ears on the Shiny, Shiny Republican preforming for the corporate media. The "Fake-left" corporate media so far has done an excellent job of keeping our attention away from Obama and the Democrats: you remember those guys don't you; the ones we busted our rear ends to get in office?
While we sit, mouths drooling waiting for the next GOP gaffe, or bit of juicy gossip:
Obama extends the old GOP "Pay Roll Tax Holiday"
Carl Levin co-writes a bill that allows US citizens to be detained and tortured without trial.
Al Franken, Harry Reid supports SOPA
Keep your eyes on the shinny ....
Well said vector56
Wow, I didn't realize that. {rolls eyes}
When will you write about all of Obama's lies and his ties to Wall Street? I can't stand the GOP but the Dems aren't much better, especially this center-right president who loves to throw liberals under the bus and make deals with the republicans you so clearly detest. Credibility isn't your long suit.
was to distract the average Roman citizen with "spectacle" (blood and guts) leaving the important affairs of state to the upper class and the Senate.
Obama's McJobs effort is getting far less attention from the corporate media and the blog sites; it would seem that he wants to make it "easier" for the CEO's to bring back the jobs they shipped over seas by "deregulating" and lowing taxes even more. Maybe US workers will minic the FoxConn employees in China:
http://shanghaiist.com/2012/01/18/daily-show-...
Seems Obama's Justice Dept. is trying to "flip" Bradly Manning to get to Julian Assange;
Keep your eyes on the shiny Republicans...
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