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Newsmax: Military Coup Would Take Care Of "Obama Problem"

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From John L. Perry at Newsmax:

There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America's military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the Obama problem. Don't dismiss it as unrealistic.

America isn't the Third World. If a military coup does occur here it will be civilized. That it has never happened doesn't mean it wont. Describing what may be afoot is not to advocate it. So, view the following through military eyes:

Did you get that? Perry doesn't advocate a military overthrow of the Obama administration, he's...just sayin'. Does anyone doubt that we'll see "military coup" signs at the next tea party? Mr. Perry believes he has the pulse of our military, but his assumptions go beyond the pale, straining the limits of credulity:

Top military officers can see the Constitution they are sworn to defend being trampled as American institutions and enterprises are nationalized.

They can see that Americans are increasingly alarmed that this nation, under President Barack Obama, may not even be recognizable as America by the 2012 election, in which he will surely seek continuation in office.

They can see that the economy ravaged by deficits, taxes, unemployment, and impending inflation is financially reliant on foreign lender governments. Read on...

There are so many flaws in this clown's logic, I don't know where to begin. What he's actually describing is George Bush's presidency, not Barack Obama's. If you can stand to click through to Perry's article, I would be most interested to hear your thoughts on his assumptions. As Jamie asked -- can you say treason?

Also worth remembering: Rush Limbaugh actually promoted this idea a few months ago.

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fiver's picture

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Corruption favors the wealthy.

JohnnyBravo's picture

What country is this?


NOBODY 2012

savannah43's picture

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roooth's picture

is disturbingly accurate.

Embittered Angry Anti-Republicrat Max-Hussein-1's picture
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... Because a Military Coup is about being a Patriot?

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Starve the WAR Beast...
... Save the World.

Serendipitydude's picture

laugh out loud while choking back tears. Too true.

mike2's picture

We've had a military industrial coup since about the Eisenhower administration. Republicans see it when Democrats are in power. I saw it as clear as daylight under Bush. And the truth is that the "military industrial" complex and the permanent standing military under a strong executive have created a military regime with a window dressing of democracy and a show of elections every two years.

Right wing fanatics and sensible progressives like me all recognize this reality sometimes, but then we are all tempted by what that military regime can do for our OTHER "issues" and "causes" when our side of the junta gains power, and so we sidle up to it and beg for it to listen to our agendas. (The right wing fanatics get more attention from the military regime under Republicans than we progressives get from the Democratic military regime when "our guys" are in power.)

But, hey, what can you do? This is a permanent reality. We live in a world of power, not democracy.

No, I don't think the military will go after Obama, simply because as far a military spending and basing and the American imperial position around the planet are concerned, why bother? He's on their side. Now if he started a process of industrial retrenchment, American reindustrialization on a non-military basis and imperial retreat, then all bets are off, but killing would be so unnecessary. Corporate money would flow through Congress and block him at every turn. He would become politically dead and that would be enough to maintain the status quo. The military system has its levers of power and it knows how to use them. But it simply won't happen. He's one of them and they know it. He's safe. Rest easy.

George Bush ruined everything.

it's gonna take a while to fix everything.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

savannah43's picture

anything.

Trittydi's picture

I'm not always that optimistic.
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Freddy Knuckles's picture

beyond trying to fix anything and well into the "limit the damage as much as possible" phase.

Barack Obama is expanding Bush policies of extrodinary rendition, torture, wiretapping,doubled up on bail-outs, bombing sovereign countries without authority and not to mention continuing the Patriot act.

There are plenty of things that this current president is doing that are illegal and blatantly unconstitutional.

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mudshark's picture

I want mine with chocolate syrup and nuts with whipped cream and a cherry on top.
3 different ice creams, and 2 bananas.
With some Kaluha.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

marie's picture

A LOT of Kahlua.

Terrible's picture

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nickjacket's picture

an Arctic Blast with swirl ice cream in the middle.

All is well.

LeftandLeft's picture

Within the military too.

Trittydi's picture

Mind-boggling ignorance on display. He assumes that the military is 100% behind this idea.
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Serendipitydude's picture

the officer corps is only 70-80% hardcore Republican. Enlisted are probably less so.

There are no small number of M-13 in the army now, then there are the white supremacists and other white racists....that could get interesting.

troseter's picture

I'm about ready to go buy a weapon. These people are threatening my safety.

Ruffmama's picture

that I have had the very same thought.

Terrible's picture

if it comes to that level of insanity. But I always say just take theirs.

nickjacket's picture

They won't make it out of the parking lot.

Terrible's picture

without a traffic cop directing them anyway.

Trittydi's picture
LOL

It would be just like a Keystone Kops scene.
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Isome's picture

I feel the same way. I'm not a gun person, but since the election and the alarmingly ridiculous sentiments expressed by those on the right wing (the fringes, perhaps, but nonetheless echoed by the mainstream) it's made me reconsider my stance on personally owning a gun for protection.

Freddy Knuckles's picture

When I tell people to get weapons they tell me "guns aren't the answer." But when the Cons decide to say fuck it and start the Second Civil War, I don't intend to let my family end up in a concentration camp.

quinellax's picture

Always considered myself pro gun control, until someone pointed out to me the dangers of a government not in fear of it's citizens. I'm with you!

mudshark's picture

But the suggestion/ call for it is seditious and treasonous.
Their pushing the envelope, to see how far they can go.
Then they'll scream that their right to free speech has been infringed upon. Hey, their nuts. What did you expect?
But it would never happen.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

Excelsior's picture

Doing what the Commander-in-Chief says is kinda in their military contract. Don't these clowns think there were more than a few soldiers who were pissed off at Clinton? Was there a coup then? Not even close.

But what about that treason thing? They're advocating a takedown of the American government. That is absolutely both sedition and treason. How is it assholes like this are not led away in chains?


There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits

bughunter's picture

If there's a coup in the USA, it won't be executed by active duty members of the US Military. It will be ex-military contractors working for some private firm like Xe (formerly Blackwater).

That's the danger of allowing firms like Blackwater to exist. You think concentrated WEALTH in the hands of a few corporations is dangerous? Imagine adding a private ARMY in their hands! In only 12 years Xe/Blackwater CEO Erik Prince has already proven that he has no regard for the rule of law, foreign or domestic, and has demonstrated nothing but contempt for congressional inquiries into his company's conduct.

So, spurred on by the corrupting influence of corporate money in Congress, we spend gobs of public money to train killers, then they leave to go work for corporate mercenary companies that will one day lead a coup against the White House. If these lawless mercs are allowed to continue to operate, then it's not a matter of if, but when. And people like John L. Perry will be cheering them on.

Yes. Treason and sedition are appropriate terms to be using here.

Trittydi's picture

According to Pap (on Ring of Fire) -- the law they just passed outlawing money to Acorn was drafted in such large and general terms that it would absolutely also apply to many other groups. Two he named were Halliburton and Blackwater.

There it sits - this quiet little bit of legislation.

Dare we think they mean to put it to further use?
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Like a cat who skids across the kitchen floor, crashes into a wall, then gets up and claims that she did it on purpose.
They jumped at the chance to do this without thinking it through. There are enough lawyers in Congress to have seen this coming, but apparently those without law degrees prevailed. Duh!

I think you're absolutely right about this. These private contractors don't answer to anyone. What's to stop them from taking matters into their own hands when corporate wealth and power are at stake?

They already faced down the US military in Iraq and made them give up their weapons!


"I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative.”
- John Stuart Mill

Yep. It's out right sedition. No 2 ways about it.

Don Webber's picture

I think you can see more members of our military in this one photo around President Obama than were shown in the entire video with President Bush when he made his secret/surprise visit to Iraq (2008).

You can also see more excitement and warmth.


“If pigs could vote,
the man with the slop bucket would be elected swineherd every time,
no matter how much slaughtering he did on the side.”
- Orson Scott Card

mudshark's picture

Dumbass is gone. Now they stand a chance of surviving.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

Terrible's picture

excitement and warmth! In ever Bush military photo-op they mostly looked pissed off at being ordered to pose for a photo-op for the jerk.

Serendipitydude's picture

swished a 3-pointer in front of them from what, 35 feet? That was a great moment.

Alice X - Chomsky Nader's picture

Beyond the issue of this article. We already have had a Fascist Coup d'Etat, it came in 1947 with the National Security Act.

Dismantle the MIC, the CIA and cut the bloated Defense War Budget by 75%, or more.

That is what the civilian government should do.


statusquObama, change you can only pretend in

Handypants's picture

The Plot To Overthrow FDR

The Plot To Overthrow FDR reveals how, inspired by political trends in Germany and Italy, this group conceived of a plan to either overthrow the newly-elected president or force him to take orders from them. They envisioned a paramilitary organization of disgruntled WWI veterans as the force to intimidate the government. The man they chose to inspire and lead this veteran's army was retired Marine General Smedley D. Butler

When Franklin Delano Roosevelt won the Presidency in 1932, many Americans looked to his bold New Deal plans as the way out of the dark days of the Depression. But a powerful group of financiers and industrialists saw his economic policies as a threat.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

Excelsior's picture
Yep

And they backed the wrong horse, too. Butler came to his sense, turned around and rejected them. Guess that whole "integrity" thing just turned around and bit them in the ass.


There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits

Trittydi's picture

And wrote a kick-ass book exposing the IMC. "War is a Racket"
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RoadScholar's picture

...was one of those who tried to overthrow the democratically elected government.

Conservatives only like government when they're in control. And when they're not, they threaten violence if they don't get their way.

It never changes.

inappropriate's picture

I have seen more demagoguery than in my lifetime, and it doesnt appear to be in decline.

Trittydi's picture

There seems to be a WHOLE lot of wishful thinking going on here.
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LESSON for all Dems:

Classic Republican strategy is to take their evil deeds and project them on Democrats. e.g. Republicans wrecked the economy but blame the Democrats.

Handypants's picture

For everything.

It is amazing they do so with a straight face.


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

roooth's picture
No

What's amazing is that they continue to get away with it.

This is like the sickest of sick, codependent, abusive relationships.

bughunter's picture
Yes

They've been projecting more than ever this year. It is amazing to behold. They've been projecting with such power that we could play shadow puppets on the moon.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

I thought y'all meant rick

All hair no brains.

Get Kinky Texas!!!


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

sciguy's picture

Freedom of speech is one thing; treason is another. And this is treasonous.

Rational discourse, spirited debate, even name calling, I can live with, but underhandedly calling for a military coup should not be tolerated.

Prairie Sunshine's picture

Nationalize Newsmax and all the rest of Rupert's rightwing media. And then indict and prosecute the sumbitch as an enemy combatant.

John L. Perry, and his bona fides consist of the things Newsmax says about him. Just try to confirm any of it. I think it is a pen name for someone too cowardly to spread this traitorous and seditious "call to action" any way other than anonymously. Sounds like Rush Limbaugh to me.

Terrible's picture

chickenhawk whoever he is.

underwhelming.

roooth's picture
Yes

As a vet, I don't see this really happening.

What's sick is that this isn't so much aimed at the military as it is the nut jobs just waiting for any excuse to start shooting.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Well Ed Anger had to get a job somewhere after The Weekly World News closed.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Em Tee's picture

I didn't know that. Now where will I get vital information on how to tell if my neighbor is from another planet, or where Satan will next appear in smoke from a fire?

Unfortunately, Congress repealed the Sedition Act in 1920. We could sure use it now. How sad is that?

nickjacket's picture

Radio Free Berkeley exist(ed) in the 90's because of that repeal.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

You guys keep coming up with these ideas about how to regulate what is going out over the air.

Why do you do that?

Tyler Durden's picture
LOL

Not even close. Nice try though.

savannah43's picture

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Trittydi's picture

It seems to me these guys are walking a pretty thin line with their crap.
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republicanism is a mental illness! I don't think it has ever been more evident then now.
The insanity of these fools is just beyond belief!
I agree with one of the previous comments, if these fools decide to start some crap and you need a gun I have plenty! More of them then I can carry and I would be willing to share.

Richard Grabman's picture

The recent coup in Honduras (originally supported by, among others, Hillary Clinton and Americablog.com) was justified as "constitutional" with exactly the same logic as that used by the "Newsmax" columnist. Of course, the real issue is "change they don't believe in", and the "newsmax" column is largely fantasy, but it's not far-fetched at all to find a legal argument in favor of almost any boneheaded (or plainly criminal) idea.

Terrible's picture

Different Constitution!!!

This is third-hand, but I happen to work with a guy married to a Honduran who's lived there in the past and is about to start another tenure there in education. I haven't talked to him extensively about it, but last I heard his take was that the exiled president is somewhat of a power-grabber trying to get himself in a more permanent Venezuela-like position, and not particularly well liked. Based on that this was a somewhat severe overreaction but is half-justified inasmuch as I understand their constitution.

Now, I could be entirely wrong about this, but it's not black and white in either direction.

real_earl's picture

www.democracynow.org
has been doing very good coverage of the situ. in Honduras.


I'm Boycotting NewsCorp! Heres what not to buy: http://www.cjr.org/resources/index.php?c=news...

toiboi's picture

if the fbi has infiltrated some of these groups as they did during civil rights w/kkk and its ilk?

wondering, too, who is bankrolling and doing strategy for this rollout of delegitimatizing the admin and violence advocacy/incitement??

doubtless, it wouldn't occur to this winger group that this coup talk and secession mongering are not only unpatriotic but treasonous -- they reserve that for the other party when they're in 'power' [shoe meet other foot]

reminds of the jfk hate talk and its precipitant outcome. this should be called out. shaming would be one tool--this is ignoble behavior at best. but still wondering who's orchestrating this.

I'd have to say that the FBI is probably too busy infiltrating peace groups to get around to these guys.

Looks pretty popular with them thar soldiers.

Odds are if the military brass tried to overthrow Obama,

The rank-and-file would probably overthrow their military brass

And the brass knows it.

So john perry shouldn't be surprised if there's a knock on his door in the middle of the night.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Wesley E. Ledjennes's picture

with a straight face doesn't know jack-shit about the military. There was a greater chance of this happening under W than there is now. Military professionals are honor-bound to the Constitution and their Commander In Cheif... which means they are honor-bound TO THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

Besides, Republicans and "conservatives" seem to think they OWN the military. They are completely dead-ass fuckin' WRONG. There are LOADS of good Democrats in uniform who are very content with a center-left Democrat of mixed race in the "Front Office." All is RIGHT with the world.

Trittydi's picture

Didn't I hear they voted in much larger numbers for Obama than for Grandpa?
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called Wesley), great post, especially this bit:

Besides, Republicans and "conservatives" seem to think they OWN the military.

I salute you sir.

Cat Atomic's picture
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Isn't it odd how these people regularly and openly advocate the most anti-American, treasonous acts-- and then claim to be the "real" America?

I'm starting to suspect that "Real America" to them begins with "Confederate States of..."

Trittydi's picture

LOL!
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Terrible's picture

who's never served in the military then. There's this little thing called an OATH OF SERVICE to defend the Constitution of the United States of America against ALL enemies, both foreign and domestic. Perry is advocating the military become domestic enemies!!! If he wants to see the streets flow with right wing radicals blood he can go ahead and try his little military coup. Without the actual military joining in of course. Since they never would unless they wanted to hang for treason.

I think Perry is a pen name. Google it and let me know if you find anything.

Terrible's picture

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Perry's twisted logic, I'm sure, is that he's suggesting the military overthrow a "domestic" enemy (the Obama administration).

Ajaye's picture

That's what planet we're on here...

Personally, I'm thrilled. I now feel fully authorized, empowered and justified in throwing the epithet "Nazi" around with impunity. I invoke the Godwin's Law exemption that when your political enemy actually does act exactly like a Nazi, the law does not apply. I can not be accused of political hyperbole any longer, because the mofos are, in the end, truly, truly, sadly, really, really just like Nazis.

Something about that phrase..."the Obama problem" and something about an masculinist/authoritarian/militaristic minority talking about overturning a democratic election through a "peaceful" coup...just reminds me of a similar group from the pages of history.

Could it be...NAZIS?!!!!!!!!

Nazi, Nazi, Nazi. Mr. Perry is a Nazi. End of discussion. Oh, and FUCK YOU VERY VERY MUCH, MR. PERRY.

nickjacket's picture

Soooo overplayed.

Aren't there some other assholes that can do the Usual Suspects two step?

Phylter's picture

No, there aren't. "Nazis" have always been with us, and will always BE with us, from the caves, to the end of the species. It is merely a convenient, contemporaneous reference to a specific type of homicidal sociopath that periodically takes control of a society. Its use here is something that everybody here understands and relates to. And here, these people are the REAL DEAL.

katenh's picture

the CIA in Latin America, in particular, Costa Rica, Guatamala, Panama, El Salvador, San Salvador and Brazil

Speaking of Brazil, how about Pinochet?

We can go further back to Napoleon if we want to stay European.

How about Franco?

Name any European/American supported/installed dictator in Africa starting with Edi Amin, Charles Taylor, Ghaddafi.

The Saudi Royals

Hell the list goes on!

Tyler Durden's picture

huh?

savannah43's picture

He hiked her Shining Path.

nickjacket's picture

yes
yes

tell us more

Brazil!


"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui

savannah43's picture

The truth is finally revealed.

eyebrows then.

savannah43's picture

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roooth's picture
wow

You guys really know how to ride a tangeant!

toiboi's picture

these the same guys that are going to be raptured?

nickjacket's picture

they'll carry the water and get ruptured.

katenh's picture

I love it!

Amitola's picture

can see the Constitution they are sworn to defend being trampled as American institutions and enterprises are nationalized...."""

What the hell were these people doing for the 8 years of the Cheney administration? Did they not notice that we were invading sovereign nations based on LIES??

Did they not notice that the Cheney administration and the Repug congress thoroughly trashed the Constitution with the Patriot Act??

Give me a freakin' break.


"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy

nickjacket's picture

we are safe knowing that the u.s. military now carries an additional measure of careful judgment
which would probably negate the possibility of coup-prone-ness.

Coups are for lesser nations to squabble with each other. We have have more TV dinners than they do.

Tyler Durden's picture

... were does in the US constitution talk anything about nationalizing companies being against it?

nickjacket's picture

but do you mean the constitution de jour or the one the super supreme court uses?

Tyler Durden's picture

Go ahead, give it a whirl.

nickjacket's picture

sorry, i got caught up in the interpretation from the multitudes of possible agendas:
2000 election.
Terri Schiavo.
Gitmo - its uses and purpose.
Free Speech.

... and the list goes on and on... wait, that's not all...

Tyler Durden's picture

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nickjacket's picture

you thawt i didn't catch the missing reading lesson.

ooooo.

Tyler Durden's picture

... but comprehension.

LOL

nickjacket's picture

Red Baron!

Tyler Durden's picture

... anyhow, getting back at the issue of where in the US constitution mentions anything regarding nationalization of businesses...

nickjacket's picture

and where does the constitution allow church and state to freakin' take turns?

Those weren't meant to be nationalizations but bail-outs.
GM heads rolled and out came an electric car.

Time for church and state to seperate and go to their respective corners - Republicans i'm looking at you!


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

Tyler Durden's picture

... you misspelled herring as baron. Common mistake I guess.

nickjacket's picture

Red Herring Magazine.
But that was so '90's .

Tyler Durden's picture

... them going with a bang on their own hubris was one of the few good outcomes from the .com bust.

Fuckedcompany was so much better!

roooth's picture

You and I knew the war was based on lies - but millions, including in the military, believed the lies.

And, as disturbing as this is, if you ask 25 people on the street, or in a military unit, what the Patriot Act is, less than 5 will know - even officers.

But that does not mean they would attack their own country.

Trittydi's picture

Reality is NOT the issue here.

This is COMPLETELY about losing the election.
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Trittydi's picture

To a black guy.
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The Shock Doctrine, and oh my f-ing god these people worry me. I realize now a coup would give them more than one thing they'd want...


"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui

Phoenix Justice's picture

I too am currently reading Naomi Kline's "Shock Doctrine", though I am further along. It is very chilling and I can now see things I missed before.

I highly recommend everyone reading "Shock Doctrine".


Election 2012: Be Educated! Be Active! Vote!

www.PhoenixJustice.com

Crash Chloride's picture

If you so much as suggest that Bush might be wrong(about anything) you were called an "America Hater". If you pushed the issue that Bush was wrong(about anything) you were accused of treason. Now we have people on the far right talking about a coup?????

WTF

It would be nice if we had an actual "Liberal" media that would expose these nutjobs, unfortunately we are stuck with a corporate media that might take a wait and see approach.

JohnnyBravo's picture

are Keith, Rachel and so many others on the internet. Our voices need to be louder. This treason is unacceptable.


NOBODY 2012

nickjacket's picture

I see runaway pumps

And the other, whistling relief valves.

- The Lion Sleeps Tonight -

carike's picture

Arrest those treasonists.

And we're only in the first year, folks. Imagine how nuts these guys will be by year four (or eight).

:(


"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui

Trittydi's picture

Their numbers will be ever dwindling - their power is almost gone.
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"WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! WE LOST THE ELECTION!! WAAAAWAAAWAAAWAAA... MILITARY COUP! TAKE BACK THE COUNTRY!!! WAAAWAAAAAAWAAAAAAAAAA!"

rip's picture

Stupid, paranoid, delusional - yes - but not treasonous. Calling this sort of dumbass commentary treason and sedition is like the mirror of a freeper thread.

Newsmax has always been at the fringe of the wingnut universe - but the more the Cons keep this crap up - the more marginalized they become. So keep the crazy coming.

Terrible's picture

BUT it's certainly grounds for indefinite detention. IF we're going to have that illegal Bushit still around.

"Newsmax has always been at the fringe of the wingnut universe..."

I'm not sure I can even tell the difference between the far fringes and the "mainstream" right anymore. The best known right-winger in the country right now is Glenn Beck, after all. He has a huge national audience and if there's any space between his delusional rants and those of Newsmax, it's microscopic.

something incredibly stupid, he or she is just a "fringe element." Heck even when their leadership does it, they manage to become "fringe" for just those few seconds. It is awesome, they get to be the silent majority and the "fringe" at the same time.

savannah43's picture

?

Tyler Durden's picture

... see how many typos are in the article.

Trittydi's picture

Beck has created a climate that empowers all the nut-cases. There will be a lot more of this.

The good part of the Beck thing is that he is staking EVERYTHING on being personally responsible for taking Obama down. Short of assassination - he is doomed to disappointment and we may see his complete collapse right on our television screens.

I don't know if he could handle failure - really - He's staking it all on his ability to do that.

Tyler Durden's picture

the way the article was phrased. I gotta at least admit that.

government and replacing it with a form of military tribunal. I have a Rove/Cheney feeling coming over me. I find it quite interesting that they speak of BHO's handlers, like he is a puppet. He couldn't possibly be in actual charge. This is really getting ugly.

Nixxon-sTheOne's picture

what a clown.

tweakerbelle's picture

The Xian right wing freaks have been prosletysing like mad amid the lower ranks. Some few in the upper ranks are of the same ilk. The majority of the upper ranks are centre-right republicans (old school pre-gingrich types) some are centrist Dems, others are rightwing whack jobs.

What is possible is a junta that would likely fail and throw the country into civil war.

The right wing psychos would assemble a lightning strike on washington dc, shoot anything that moved. Arrest and execute the White house and much of the Legislative branch, and imprison the Supreme court, proclaiming a new America of Christian Values, bla bla bla. The country would spin instantly against them, but not before a certain few states accepted the junta (think: deep south, Idaho, Utah, possibly texas). That would set the stage for a civil war that would likely last about a month at most, a week at least, ending with the failure of the junta.

Wall street would completely collapse, and the USA would experience its first taste of devolution. As the energy situation worsens and the monetary situation intensifies, there would be another devolution in the 2020s, but of a more peaceful "I'm done, we're out of here" variety. The corporations that actually own the government would be hard pressed to keep it together, and would likely evapourate as they are fictional entities to begin with an would be unable to deal with the development of localised currencies and mass poverty.

Perry thinks such an effort would succeed. He is wrong. It would fail. There is no direct profit in such an event. The corporate system demands stability, not unrest, which is why it backed the Democrats because the Bush junta was driving instability that exceeded the value of the deregulation.


It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.
-George Carlin

bughunter's picture

... oftentimes I fear that it will take something that ugly to permanently discredit the far right in this country once and for all.

Hybrid's picture

... of the backstory of The Handmaid's Tale.

Republic of Gilead anyone?

tiktokklok's picture

...is to quell the civil war that will surely break out if the right wing is successful in their efforts to get one of their fellow lunatics to assassinate Obama. By that time, we will have killed most--if not all--of the fools on the right. Do you hear what I'm saying, you cowards at NewsMax?

And if the nation utterly collapsed, many nations of the world would rightfully worry about the vast U.S. arsenal of nuclear weapons and decide to launch a preemptive thermonuclear strike.

...Let's see - these so called "patriots" are pissing their pants that the horrible black man in the White House is going to take away their "freedoms" and so their solution is a military style coup - complete(presumably)with martial law and everything. Wingnut logic - I just don't get it.


If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.

George Carlin

rphwa's picture

Veteran, gun owner, patriotic American, living in the real world with the majority of Americans who are also LIBERAL. What this person is talking about is treason and sedition and he should be prosecuted.

nate_o's picture

Look at all those brown people in uniform. Would they hurt the president? I really doubt it. Call me racist, but I trust Hispanic immigrants to do a good, honorable job way more than white people.

Disturbed Havok's picture

So I can show this to all the people, like family members, who believe the left-wingers are just as vile with politics as the right-wingers. Yeah, there were some crazies who advocated killing or over-throwing Bush, but NONE were mainstream voices. Rush, Beck, and hell, at this point even some members of Congress are coming close to it (like Bachmann and her fear of the Census) are all perfect targets for a "Why do hate America?" or "America, love it or leave it!" attack, but are Democrats doing that? They're actually wanting to *gasp* work with these kinds of people... those douchebag Democrats! I don't even know what can be done anymore if Republicans seem hell bent on dividing and destroying the actual foundation of America (honest debate), and Democrats are just going to let it slide so as not to divide America... I came around years ago out of my anarchist faze (like before I graduated high school), but it's kind of sad they're actually looking sane in the grand scheme of American politics lately - and yes I still think they're crazy.

Abbybwood's picture

to do his "coup":

http://www.americanpolicegroup.com/american_p...

It seems this "private" police organization has taken over the town of Hardin, Montana.

I tried to put the link here but it wouldn't take.

This is one scary group. The U.S. is being infiltrated by all these private police forces that are being hired with our tax dollars to police us?

What's wrong with THIS picture??


"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn

redsaunas's picture

...and it was a total flop. In fact it's claimed by some that the half-baked coup plot against FDR left him in a position to fully implement the New Deal.

I hesitate though to say 'bring it on'...

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