John McCain Using Same RoboCall Firm That Smeared Him In 2000
By Nicole Belle Saturday Oct 18, 2008 10:45amIn his efforts to attack Barack Obama, John McCain appears to have turned to the same political consulting firm that was responsible for spreading vicious smears about the Senator during the 2000 South Carolina GOP primary.
In recent days, the Huffington Post and other outlets have reported on the McCain-funded nationwide robocall campaign charging that Barack Obama "worked closely with" former 60s radical William Ayers. Another RNC/McCain campaign call states that Obama is a "celebrity" politician who was fundraising in Hollywood during the financial crisis.
BRILLIANT tactics. Polls show your campaign losing traction as your "pitbull with lipstick" running mate goes negative out on the campaign trail, so what do you do? Stay negative, and use the company that perpetuated the "John McCain fathered an illegitimate black baby" story that sank your campaign. That's putting country first, Johnny.
But wait, there's more:
(T)here's more to this story than just a fishy and misplaced robocall. FLS-Connect is owned by political operative and lobbyist Jeff Larson, a close ally of Minnesota Republican Senator Norm Coleman. Coleman not only put Larson in charge of the Republican Convention in St. Paul, he rents the basement apartment in Larson's Washington townhouse for below market value. And two of Larson's clients, the US Chamber of Commerce and the National Federation of Independent Business, have spent thousands of dollars running ads against Coleman's Senate challenger, Democrat Al Franken.
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Give us a list of the nasty attacks that aren't a fact please.
Early voting started today in Nevada, went this morning around 11 AM to my location at the Henderson Galleria Mall. Lines were thick, so I decided to come back later, got back around 5 PM, again lines were still thick.
Despite my utter contempt for both parties for passing that POS bail out bill (I'm on board with Jim Rogers thinking) I managed to find it in myself to vote for Obama.
Two simple reasons
1) McCain will piss the world off like Bush has, that must stop in our interdependent planet. He is a hot head, we've seen enough of that.
2) I can't fathom having an pentecostal speaking in tongues Armageddon embracing nut job running our country should McCain keel over. She would push a radical theocracy down this nations throat and again likely piss off the rest of the world.
We've had both of those now for 8 years and Bush really has brought us to the brink of destruction. I heard these sentiments when he got in office and laughed at them knowing he was going to screw things up, but I never thought just how accurate those sentiments were.
Now the GOP Neanderthal machine wants to blame the liberals for the economy and try to make sure the buck doesn't stop Bush's desk again.
Sorry, not this time.
The girth of a man is measured in integrity. McCain's now lost it all and it's becoming more evident to americans every day.
How can they vote for a man they no longer respect?
One would think that in a race about "personal integrity" that at least McCain would attempt to reinstate what he's lost over the past 3 weeks. He's not smart enough.
We've learned a lot of John McCain during this election. We've learned he's a man of many faces - and integrity isn't one of them.
Independents are running from McCain in every state and in droves. The reason I's become I's (and I am one) is that they abhore the typical politics of smear and filth.
There is NO WAY in hell that any Independent can vote for John McCain now.
He's precisely the reason Independents leave their parties.
John McCain has become the "nemesis" of Independent voters throughout the country now. He epitomizes that which influenced their choice to become "unaffiliated voters" in the first place.
Now that monster has a new name to Independents: John McCain
Thank you Mr. McCain - Independent voters everywhere can now put a human face once and for all on that which motivates them to become and remain Independents - YOURS!
It's just business. So says this firm and so says McCain. Business as usual with the only goal being money and/or power.
Well now, here's the opportunity for Powell to clean himself and show his character.
Oh what will he do, what will he do?!
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Did somebody say smear? http://www.filthyrichmond.com/2008/06/its-my-...
Even Robocalls ‘Turn On’ John McCain
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=4118
What's becoming increasingly clear is that the "old politics of smear and filth" no longer work in this country. People were divided by the Robo calls of George Bush - now McBush plays the same game.
The clear message which will come out of this election is that the Rove/Bush/McCain kind of divisive politics will tank this country faster than the economic meltdown.
If this country must remain united, we surely don't need a purveyor of sleazy to divide us further with his fascist agenda.
The old John McCain has clearly left the country; Gone is the War Hero McCain; Enter the New RoboMcCain, Chief Purpetrator of smut and sleaze.
There is no way this man will ever reinstate his dignity in this country and americans will boo him off every stage.
But always remember that for over 5 years he could not smear anyone.
Psycho McCain has taken over as the dominant persona of this pathetic old, broken man.
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... almost as much as I despise Wanton Boy.
Two turns in the same cesspool.
Bye bye, Johnny.
If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
Washington politics at its finest!
Well he's hired everyone else involved with the people saying he fathered a bastard black child, might as well go the whole 9 yards.
You're already at the bottom of the barrel.
The choices are probably not that great.
And besides, like I said before, many time: "It's just bidness, Carmine. Nuttin' poysonul. I gotta kill ya, but it's just bidness..."
The mob is the paradigm for political organization...
These people have no sense of legal, ethical or moral responsibility. Their only responsibility is to themselves and their businesses - to maximize PROFIT no matter what.
so ya gotta change laws to fix stuff.
and the people who write the laws like things the way they are now...
There are several positive impacts from this in the long term.
First, the “take these dice from my cold dead hands” Berserkers are dead and buried. This would include hedge funds, reckless lenders and associated Pig Men. The policy makers responsible will be purged in January. Even the set term sycophant types like Bernanke will “resign for personal reasons” (perhaps bad ulcers?). What could be more bullish in the long run as these casino operators and their cronies have all but wrecked so called free market economics. Not only are they out of money and influence now, but stiffer regulations are sure to come, especially in an Obama administration. In the immediate past however, their demise caused the Crash of 2008.
"First, the “take these dice from my cold dead hands” Berserkers are dead and buried. This would include hedge funds, reckless lenders and associated Pig Men."
They're no where NEAR "dead." They're some of the same people wqho are telling you they can fix things. Paulson, fer chrissake, led Goldman Sachs while attacking the very regulations he now says we need to revivify. You believe that? Robert Rubin LEFT the USGovt to lead CITI-group in doing shit he'e himself made 'legal.' They're just waiting for us to focus our attention somewhere else, before they move in again and resume their thievery...
You won't get rid of 'em. Many are the 'bluest' of USer Blue-blood commercial nobility (oxymoron, I know, I know)...
Given the incredibly incendiary rhetoric coming from the republican side, it certainly is beginning to look as if a new civil war could be necessary to protect the future of this country. Unfortunately, I think it could happen no matter which side wins.
It's simply getting too nasty out in the right-wing fundamentalist world. They really do want the fictional end-times to occur.
I just wonder whose side the army will be on.
It's simply getting too nasty out in the right-wing fundamentalist "world."
And all is sweetness and light in the left-wing liberal "world."? Ya gotta be kidding. Go ask Joe the Plumber or Sarah Palin how sweet the left is. Some of the things the left wing has hurled at Sarah is absolutely despicable.
Joe the plumber lied when he described his situation, which was distorted to make a political point, Tobes.
Like you commenting on the ASPCA, with a can of gasoline in your car to splash on dogs that piss you off.
Sara-cooter? Milf, is all...
...example please?
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So, what is inaccurate about what they said?
And the fact is McCain, like he usually does, made a mistake by bringing this guy into the conversation.
The chances of him buying the business are much better if one looks at Obama's plan. Joe will be able to keep more of his money and thereby increase the chances that he could be the business owner he always wanted to be.
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wasn't enough. Probably the most dangerous person ever to run for office.
Joe the plumber? BWHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
Actually I think that honor goes to Pat Paulson. Great comedian, though.
I'll see your Joe the Plumber and raise you a 12-year old. And ask Graeme Frost about the right's sweetness and light.
the 2000 republican campaign was nasty. mccain almost joined the democratic party following the 2000
campaign. i'm still amazed the REPUBLICANs did NOT want mccain in 2000, NOW he has all the answers
and the best experience. people with a sound and logical mind understand the REPUBLICAN PARTY (no not
the GOP that's what they want us to call them)have NO direction.the lies and the choice of Palin the whole
campaign is pathetic.
Using the same tactics used against you. Mr. McCain, it's admirable if you are wanting to be a shogun, but president of a democracy? Not so much..
The abused becomes the abuser; not that unusual really. And it's the only thing Repigs know how to do well; they can win (steal) elections but they certainly can't govern.
Of course look at the pathetic excuses for human beings that pass for their base. Fine examples to be found at http://thewell-armedlamb.blogspot.com/ right now. And this is what goes out to the world; sometimes I weep.
McCain is able to get away with things like this because the press has let him: http://brainrageblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/bli...
...you can't argue with success.
Site monitor, my comment for a reply went clear to the top of the page. I'm on threded and bottom for my selection.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/10/18/obam...
100,000+ people and no miserable rightwingers making death threats or carrying racist effigies.
I just don't understand McCain that would allow these racist to act this way. He has a child of color, I would love to know what he tells his daughter about that. If this was a regular citizen that was doing this I bet they would take their daughter away from the McCain because of child abuse.
He even said it himself. He is doing these types of things mostly because he loves the "fight". McCain has the win at any cost mentality (even if it completely destroys whatever legacy he may have earned - and that is debatable). He is not doing it for any other reason other than to stroke his own..... ego.
The John McCain of the Nam era would slap the McCain of today to the ground. He has devolved into a wretched old man selling his very soul for a vote. He disgusts me.
Not really if you give any credence to the story that while on vacation he referred to his adopted daughter as an "ugly black thing."
He may have considered the robo-call about his daughter as a brilliant move so he has no qualms about using them to help him out now.
That is messed up if it is true, and for some reason, I can't help but think it is. Which brings me to...
Cindy. I think she adopted that child because she is a terribly lonely woman, and she probably begged Johnny Mac for more kids, and he put his foot down. So she goes to do good work in India and comes back with a baby for a friend and a baby for herself. It seems really sad-- and something out of a Barbara Cartland novel.
watch out folks...history shows this negative stuff works, as McCain knows all to well....scary stuff..
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America, time to Wake Up and Hang Up!
I certainly don't want negative ick poured into my ears courtesy of desperate smear-mongers, do you?
John McCain was one of the October 26 terrorists. Unlike Bin Laden, the Vietnamese caught that terrorist the same day he committed the heinous act.
"Hello!
I am calling you for Barak Obama amd the DNC because you need to know that John McCain has worked closely with international and domestic terrorist, George W. Bush."
Awesome :-D
RoboCalls do not matter. Even if he does use robocalls, you shouldn't be judging him for it. It's his campaign, not yours. You shouldn't tell him how to run his campaign.
Also, John McCain has a comprehensive economic plans that will help create millions of good American jobs, ensure our nation's energy security, get the government's budget and spending practices in order, and bring relief to American consumers.
Entrepreneurs are at the heart of American innovation, growth and prosperity. Entrepreneurs create the ultimate job security - a new, better opportunity if your current job goes away. Entrepreneurs should not be taxed into submission. John McCain will keep the top tax rate at 35 percent, maintain the 15 percent rates on dividends and capital gains, and phase-out the Alternative Minimum Tax. Small businesses are the heart of job growth; raising taxes on them hurts every worker.
A lower corporate tax rate is essential to keeping good jobs in the United States. America was once a low-tax business environment, but as our trade partners lowered their rates, America failed to keep pace. We now have the second highest corporate tax rate in the world, making America a less attractive place for companies to do business. American workers deserve the chance to make fine products here and sell them around the globe.
American workers need the finest technologies to compete. Expensing of equipment and technology will provide an immediate boost to capital expenditures and reward investments in cutting-edge technologies.
This reform will simplify the tax code, reward activity in the United States, and make us more competitive with other countries. A permanent credit will provide an incentive to innovate and remove uncertainty. At a time when our companies need to be more competitive, we need to provide a permanent incentive to innovate, and remove the uncertainty now hanging over businesses as they make R&D investment decisions.
John McCain believes we must make a farsighted, robust, and fervent commitment to innovation and new technologies to sustain our global competitiveness, meet our national security challenges, achieve less costly and more effective health care, reduce dangerous dependence on foreign sources of oil, and raise the quality of education in the United States. John McCain has been a leader in keeping the Internet free of taxes. As President, he will seek a permanent ban on taxes that threaten this engine of economic growth and prosperity.
John McCain understands that the same people that would tax e-mail will tax every text message - and even 911 calls. John McCain will prohibit new cellular telephone taxes.
So now think about what he is doing to make our lives better instead of thinking of what he is doing in his campaign.
If you're an Adam Brickley copycat, you should know that: (1) There isn't a guaranteed position for you in a McCain administration.(2) You should get out of your mom's basement more often.
Hypocrite anyone? McCain uses the same Robocall operation which he condemned for smearing him in 2000? Ahem, dude but you sound like a hypocrite yourself.
These robocalls are illegal in some states and will be adjudicated with serious damages soon.
As for the content of these calls, they're vulgar and disgusting. Anyone who wants us to believe he has the dignity and integrity to be president of this country and stoops to this degraded nadir is not only underestimating the integrity of the american people but a flaming moron himself.
McCain worked all his life to convince us that he's some kind of war hero deserving of our respect. Instead now he will be relegated to probably losing his Senatorship following this sleazy, heinous campaign of slur, smear, and filth.
McCain has become a degraded individual in the eyes of americans - a reputation he will never regain before he croaks of his "now returned" carcinoma, Stage 4B, Invasive Melanoma.
Besides once it comes out that John McCain (Mr.Deregulator) is one of the principles who will be involved in the next case - Citizens & shareholders vs. McCain/Gramm, he may find himself in jail to boot.
McSleazy isn't only sleazy because he's running Robo calls.....once Jack Singlaub is exposed next week, Keating Five Redux makes the rounds, and his connections with Gordon Liddy are revisited, there will be no reason to even think about McCain's tax plan.
Rick Davis and his personal ties to the tanking of Freddie and Fannie. Carl Lindner,CEO,Chiquita, McCain's goombah who aided terrorists in Columbia (FARC and AUC).....and there's so much more.
Add to that his Secessionist, now-disgraced, ethically-challenged and idiot running mate, and this man's sunk his own boat.
One simple question in all of your mental masturbation: where does John McCain plan to raise the capital to run this country?
Surely not from taxing the corporations and eliminating some $800 billion right there?
Surely not from ending his 100 year war in Iraq to the tune of $10 Billion each month.
So, dude.....what planet are you living on?
WHERE'S THE MONEY?
You know what crack does to the brain!
all the crap you wrote.
But, quite frankly, I'm getting sick and tired of the damn phone calls!!!!! As an independent voter in eastern PA, I've heard from Mr. "you should know that Barack Obama has a close relationship with known terrorist William Ayers..." blah, blah, blah about twice a day for the past week.
I also have gotten a few taped calls from the Obama campaign, which were very positive - making a few statements about why I should vote for Obama - not someone spewing lies about McCain or Palin.
I see that McCain's problematic and incurable invasive melanoma is surfacing again as a legitimate concern since he's picked such a horse's ass for a running mate.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/18/ques...
John McCain plans to extend the very same tax breaks to the corporations and Wall Street giants as George Bush.
What does this troll NOT get about that?
John McCain plans NO TAX BREAKS FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS. John McCain latched onto his millionaire mistress to use her money (7 homes, 13 cars tells the story) and her money got him into congress; otherwise, John McCain would be part of the Middle Class.
He doesn't have the first connection to middle class americans and he's planning to screw them and screw the seniors via medicare cuts.
If it were up to Bush and McCain, they would have shipped social security to their buddies on Wall Street for a nice kickback and it would be "gone" right now. Then where would our parents be?
THANK GOD we will not have to endure 4 more years of Bush. Thank God for Barack Obama.
What that troll a few posts up doesn't get is that 911 taxes put otgether along the rest of the taxes he listed amount to about $5 a month. For example, I pay 911 taxes on my cell phone bill, it adds up to roughly $15 a YEAR.
So on the one hand McCain will be saving me say $50 a year, but on the other hand, since he's not going to tax the rich ($250,000+ income) he'll be taxing my income and the rest of the middle class' to make up for it. What an insult to anyone with half a brain.
Grampa Simpson can't win on the issues, so he's harrassing people at home with lies and smears.
You stay classy.
I have been watching ABC and CBS college football today. The political ads I have witnessed today have been Republican attack ads against Al Franken, Obama, Ashwin Madia. Looks like Tony Revko is being brought up again.
Oh, Michelle Bachmann just put out an ad saying she would stop lobbyists from spending taxpayer money.
Since her McCarthy like attack on Matthews, ActBlue has raieed over $100,000 in Minnesota alone to help unseat Bachmann. Some local newscasts called her comments embarrasing as well.
How can Barack Obama loose this election? With something close to horror, most Democrats comtenplate every possible scenario. Lately, the John McCain camp has been busy. In addition, the media has also aided in scripting what could go wrong for the Senate wonder. Here are few I have come up with:
1. Robo calls and ACCORN -- these two have become whole and are currently affecting the election. As wrong as it may appear, they don't seem to be any stop to this destructive misleading attempt to win by all out lying.
2. Barack became too cocky -- as much as Obama has put out caution against this, the MSM is currently indicating Obama is "measuring the drapes." Here, the conservative polls aid in a slow visual decline in the polls. For that reason, pay cautious attention to the following over-credited polls: Rasmussen, all of the Gallup polls, Zogby, USA, CNN, ARG, Survey USA and any pollster who refuse to note Obama's recent spike in the polls. In general, there are enough conservative pollsters to lend a strong impression the election is headed in any direction.
When you think about it, the participants on this cite can list there own scenario for what could go wrong for Obama, so I encourage you to fill in the blank:
Joseph
As of Sunday morning, at 4:03 am., The RealClearPolitics.com site is highlighting an average of tracking polls. They have taken out all the date released polls to average a lower tracking poll average.
What is troubling about this average is Zogby has Obama with a 3 point lead. Zogby burned CSPAN so badly with bad polling during the primaries they would not bring him out after he gave Obama a 10 point lead over Hillary Clinton. In the end, Clinton won by 10 points. That is not the only time Zogby has been dead wrong. In fact, I can't remember when they have actually made a right prediction. Gallup is in the same vain as Zogby. They hide behind polls that can't be evaluated in real time. Gallup can only be evaluated at the end of the election process. So all those half ass polls that traditionally give conservatives an edge over Democrats will not be evaluated until it is over.
Joseph
Our democratic republic cannot survive unless the citizens know the truth about their leaders and the candidates. A deceived voter has lost his right to choose. Today we can find enough information sources on the Internet to separate the facts from the lies. All you have to do is google enough to get a good picture of what the truth is.
A comment on the important issues before us should be more substantial than ad hominem attacks on an opponent, profanity and slogan slinging. The tone of these comments is more akin to sports fans boasting about their team. Our obligations as voters are much more important.
You can learn much from googling the correct words. Obama is opaque, still an unknown after almost two years of campaigning. But there is enough on the internet to separate truth from untruth. Many or most of his supporters think he is "cool," but they do not vet him.
Each voter has an obligation to investigate the candidates and think about what they find. Then do as a jury does, ask yourself, given all the facts, the truth is more likely than not that Obama . . .
I encourage you to google "Obama Rezko" "Obama ACORN" "Obama Auchi" "Obama Ayers" "Obama Project Vote" "Obama Annenberg" Does Obama tell you the truth when he says he had no relationship with Rezko, Ayers, Acorn, Auchi, follow the links and do new googles. Read what you find and follow the links. You will be able to analyze the things he has said. You owe this bit of effort to your fellow voters and nation. Note that for over three years Obama directed voter registration as director of Project Vote and then he did trainings at ACORN. Isn't it likely he trained them in voter registration? That is all he knew at the time. Remember if a lie is repeated over and over it will eventually be accepted as the truth by persons without independent knowledge. Obama is gambling that his followers will not investigate him. The newspapers you read and the news stations you watch are not reporting on Obama. If they published what they knew about Obama only the racist voters would continue to support him. The only question is: Has he lied to us and i;
Question: Is doing push polling by telephone worse than paying your old friends $830,000 to overwhelm the voter registration system with thousands of registrations allowing thousands of fraudulent votes to slip through the system. Do we need UN observers? What did ACORN do in Florida in 2000 and 2004? Answer these questions for yourself.
Senator John "Keating 5" McCain has had his day....Federal Congressional Record indicates "Poor Judgement" for McCain's role in the investigation of Charles Keating, a felon, and initiator of the Great Savings and Loan Scandal during the administration of Republican President Ronald Reagan. McCain's 90-95% voting record with the failed and flawed Bush Administration economic policies.
McCain's failed vetting process that selected Governor Sarah Palin who is cited in a bipartisan heavily Republican report indicating "Abuse of Power" and ethic irregularities.......
CHECK CHARLES KEATING; KEATING 5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five
McCain worked across the aisle with his Democratic Arizona U.S. Senator partner with Mr. Keating.
THE REAL ISSUE is the economy and not diversions. It's not Black or White---IT'S GREEN....MONEY-JOBS-FUTURE-COLLEGE/EDUCATION-ECONOMIC.
It's not about people in other countries when our families are suffering.....Let those who can afford to help others, help them but not our taxes paying for Iraq's infrastructure.......It's the economy...
AMERICANS DON'T LET A ROBO MACHINIST alter your mind!!!!
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