Jon Stewart smacks down Mike Huckabee on gay marriage
By John Amato Wednesday Dec 10, 2008 2:25pm
When I saw Huckabee strut out on TDS right after his opening comedy bit last night I was disappointed because I wondered why the heck does this guy, who has his own show now need that much air time and why is he on anyway? Well, Stewart set him up for a fall. He let Mikey ramble on in the first segment about his new book "Do the Right Thing," and how if every one treated each other like they want to be treated, then life would be simply marvelous. The Jesus principle. Fair enough, but then Stewart slammed him with those sentiments right over the head.
Stewart: You write in your book that all people are created equal and yet for gay people you believe that it is corrosive to society to allow them to have the privileges that all humans enjoy.
Oooops. When John Cusack complained that Stewart gives neocons and theocrats too much air time to make them appear normal, I agreed. But as long as Stewart takes the argument to them head on then at least he exposes the Huckabees to a debate which always ends badly for them. And one that they rarely ever have to face because network/cable news would never go toe to toe like this.
When have you ever seen Huckabee at a loss for words? He does in this segment.
Pam Spaulding writes: Jon Stewart slays the homophobic Huckabeast without breaking a sweat
This man ran for president and intends to do so again. Journalists, particularly openly progressive ones, have an obligation to bore in on pols like Huckabee because their views are often wrapped up with a wink and a smile and sold as protecting family, children, the word "marriage", etc. as if this is all a benign act that hurts no citizens in this country.
Stewart made his case easily:
STEWART: You know, you talk about the pro-life movement [abortion] being one of the great shames of our nation. I think if you want number two, I think it’s that: It’s a travesty that people have forced someone who is gay to have to make their case that they deserve the same basic rights as someone else."
..."I'll tell you this: Religion is far more of a choice than homosexuality. And the protections that we have for religion? We protect religion -- and talk about a lifestyle choice -- that is absolutely a choice. Gay people don't choose to be gay. At what age did you choose not to be gay?"
Huck didn't want to answer those remarks. Instead, it was more of the same "It's all about tradition" argument that is meaningless in the face of human rights. And when he offered up the tired biblical point of marriage, Jon shot back that polygamy was part of the bible. Pam, has the full transcript up here.
Silent Patriot made the video and adds:
As the interview went on, Huckabee was more worried about being portrayed as a homophobe than being able to offer up a good explanation as to what he so opposes gay marriage.
"Just because Mike Huckabee doesn't support the idea of changing the definition of marriage doesn't mean he's a homophobe."
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I saw this last night, Jon ROCKS! Forget Caroline Kennedy, Pattison should offer him the Senator's job. I doubt he would consider the pay cut worth the while, as well as having to reign in the glib (albiet appro pos) commentary.
à propos.
Stewart is excellent at setting up people and letting them
fall on their own words--just like last night.
No wonder he has so many viewers who are so smart.
His viewers are much brighter than those of Fox news.
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His article the night before about the prime minister of
Canada had us laughing very hard. But of course, he's got
several Canadians on the staff. Smart move, eh?
I like what Ellen DeGeneres said to John McCain.."you can sit here but you can't sit over there" in reference to gay marriage.
Someone else said also, "well you know what happens when you hang out with tall people, you get tall too."
Great example of passionately standing up to ignorance. These a hole christians and even corrupt politicians get away because too few are willing to vigorously stand up to them. The old bully phenomenon I guess. Hopefully more people find the strength like Jon Stewart to really stand against these people and look into the crimes of this government. Pleasure to see. Great post.
"Marriage is the bedrock of our society."
That's where the whole "Family Values" doctrine begins.
And it's totally bogus.
The bedrock of American Democracy is the Protection of the Rights of the Individual.
Notice that the Obama-Biden Campaign ran on "American Values" - skillfully undercutting the "Family Values" crap WITHOUT directly repudiating "Family Values."
"Family Values" excludes anyone not in a nuclear family. This includes ALL single people, widows, widowers and orphans, etc.
"Family Values" is NOT the American Way.
the nuclear family, headed and bossed by The Man, literally. These types are fighting for their historical role in running things as the head of the family. "Focus on the Family" = Focus on the Father. It's power and the lust for it.
If the Huckster doesn't want to be perceived as a homophobe maybe he should quit being a fucking homophobe.
... he doth protest too much.
Huck's America and Obama's America.
Talking socially, not politically.
Obama will do a lot that McCain or Huck would do internationally and with Wall Street.
Huck's fighting the battle socially of a bunch of losers.
Huckleberry says he's not a homophobe but his final comments say otherwise. Stewart made him think about marriage equality, and he thinks the structure of society would crumble and he would succome to possible hidden inner feelings or be converted... yipe! Marrying you is not what John had in mind here Huck. Sheesh.
I saw this last night, and the Huckster pissed me off. So I sent him an email.
His reasoning for being against gay marriage was that the "definition" of marriage is a union between one man and one woman. For Pete's sake....he's against it because of a stinking "definition?"
When it comes right down to it, it's his religious beliefs and homophobia which cause him to be anti-gay marriage. In my email, I told Huckabee that if we were to take the bible literally, then we'd be owning slaves right now.
Gay marriage is wrong because it's against the law.
Gay marriage is against the law because it's wrong.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
Sounds like the same reasoning behind why drugs are bad.
Gay marriagge is wrong because it is a threat to traditional marriage. Can't you see it? Everytime one of our gay friends sends us a Christmas card I worry so about my own "traditional" marriage. It just seems so dangerous!
This topic totally fries me. Why does this fucker CARE? Keith Olberman said it best. Why does this matter to you?????
Interesting but ultimately irritating.
This business of "undoing hundreds of years of tradition" (I'm paraphrasing)really irks me.Thats spin.Another way to look at it would be it "enhances" tradition.In no way would Gay marriage threaten the man/woman equation,or Civilization in general.It boils down to religious convictions,which should never decide public policy.
What I'd like to see is: when someone tries to justify their prejudice on the basis that the feature they hate is a lifestyle choice the interviewer asks them if when the feature is shown to be genetically determined they will give up their prejudice.
Jon Stewart proves again that he is. Everyone else just backs down after the second (or first) repetition of the talking points. Jon persists: you're not making any sense and I'll keep after you until you do. The rest of our journalist class needs to study him.
I was just thinking this same thing. If only our journalists recognized and called a bullshit argument when they heard one.
Stewart actually has a very difficult job. His task is to be funny. That's why he's on teevee. In the course of doing that, he's been able to shed a bright light on a lot of crap and point it out for what it is. I could not have done both, myself.
I simply would've smacked Huckabee over the head with his own book. Show over.
"words matter"..... what a tool
..."homophobia."
That one matters.
Here's the guy who the Thugs will be trying to shove up our collective ass in 2012. He's positioning himself that way and we need to be smacking him down like this always.
Why are you so fucking frightened of teh queer, dad of a dog killer, and head of a morbidly obese family? You've got an entire family with some seriously unresolved issues, you bent fuck. Clean your own goddamned house before you start bashing the life condition of others, you bigoted creep.
You rock my world! :)
Hucks-for-abuck sux. And I don't mean in the good way.
So many things we now abhor were traditional at one time: slavery, women as chattel, monarchy by divine rule, droit de seigneur . . .
Ah, the good old days!
How can you want to segregate people based on the fact that they don't follow your narrow little view of life but then claim you're not against them?
Yes, mr. shmuckabee, you ARE a homophobe.
Would you rather have gay people running around promiscuously having sex with
multiple partners or would you rather have gay people who are married and faithful to
one person?
Gay people aren't going away, so why not encourage them to be loving and monogamous?
The idea of marriage being sacred or a special right between a man and a woman holds no water.
Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley?
Pam Anderson and Tommy Lee?
Liza Minnelli and whatever it was that she was married to?
Siegfried and Roy would be better parents than any of those "traditional" couples.
they do it. Married or unmarried. It's none of my goddamned business, and it's not any other person's business either.
And the only time it matters to me when married straight people are running around banging everything in sight, or even just one other person, is when they turn around and say 'Teh gayz will destroy the serious sanctity of marriage."
Britney Spears marrying that guy for 55 hours. Let's not forget that one.
Yeah this is a great example along with all the other celebrities who marry for short periods of times. Britney's sister getting pregnant... All great examples for our youth of today. When we grew up there wasn't any need for marital help you worked things out yourself with your wife and husband and divorce wasn't an issue.
"Would you rather have gay people running around promiscuously having sex with multiple partners or would you rather have gay people who are married and faithful to one person?"
The former.
Signed,
A gay guy.
Obama also justifies his opposition to the right of gay people to marry by citing his "religion" and "tradition".
Not too many people call him on it.
he's wrong too. I'm calling him on it right now.
I'm with Miss Kitty. Just cause we like Obama doesn't mean
we're slavishly devoted to his every thought. I think he's
really wrong on this one. I for one, want lots more gay weddings. The last one I attended was the most fun I've had in a long time.
He did seem to get a pass on this. I remember cringing when I heard him say it. It frankly seems out of character. I wonder if it was a political lie or if he really feels that way. Either way it was a great disappointment to hear him say that.
While Obama has said "... personally, I do believe that marriage is between a man and a woman", he has never said that he opposes the right of gay people to marry, and has opposed constitutional amendments at both the federal and state levels imposing such a ban.
He personally doesn't believe in gay marriage -- which is bizarre and can be criticized -- but he has consistently and insistently opposed all laws banning the right, including Prop 8.
I asked my friend "Random House Unabridged Dictionary" about this question. It seems if definition is a problem, ol' Huckiepoos and his very, very un-gay buddies have many more definitions they could choose to help reconcile their lexicographical upset.
Or confuse them even more.
I've reproduced the other choices that fit his stipulation of "current definition":
PS - Sorry for using a rude word; "reproduced".
PPS - Sorry for using it again.
"The final commandment, more important than all others is to love one another as I have loved you. Therefore will Ye become my disciples."
Jesus said, "ONE ANOTHER".
To this follower, I believe he was referring to ALL human beings. Gay, straight, mentally challenged, disabled, women, men, children, transvestites, Communists, Muslims, Socialists, Hindus...even Capitalists!
Why a man like Mike Huckabee (I prefer to not refer to him as "Reverend") does not understand the most profound teachings of the "Master" he pretends to follow is totally baffling to me.
Mike Huckabee appears to have zero understanding of the most basic forms of humanism.
He and his wife even have a son who thought it was perfectly fine to hang a suffering dog from a tree and kill it.
I'm sorry. I just don't understand "Christians" like Mike Huckabee.
And One More Thing: This whole meshuginas with the Governor of Illinois trying to sell Obama's senate seat to the highest bidder....
Well, DUH!!!!
Isn't that par for the course?!
I'm sitting here reading all these comments and suddenly there's a comment from me from December 10th!
This IS Dec. 28th right? Or am I having a weird flashback of some kind???
"Nee-nee-nee-nee-nee.....
Nee- nee-nee-nee....
Zonk!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Ha!!!!!
my ass!
They're just getting on with their hate for gays and if they didn't have the gays they'd find some other group to be "Other."
If they really wanted to "protect marriage" they would work to ban divorce.
But seeing as how the Red States have a higher rate of divorce - it would stand to reason that some homophobic goons would be losing one of their rights.
And we certainly cannot have that, right?
Trans feckin' parent.
Paul forbids divorce, but Jesus allows it under one circumstance. What is that circumstance? If the wife has sex outside of marriage. --Sexism illustrated: in Christianity, only a male can divorce a cheating spouse.
"It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: But I say unto you, that whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery." (Matthew 5:31-32) Not only did Jesus contradict Paul (I Corinthians 7:10), he admittedly contradicted the Mosaic law (Deuteronomy 24:1), which allowed divorce on much broader grounds.
PS. I'm proud to say, I live in one of the states' that the Huckster did not and could not mention.
Homophobia is the fear that you, yourself, may be homosexual. This was an important lesson I learned when I first met openly gay people in college. I was disturbed. I did not know how to react to THOSE PEOPLE that I had heard of, but wasn't sure I would ever meet in real life. The breakthrough was in understanding that I am not gay, I wasn't going to catch gay from anyone, these were my friends before they were outed and were still the same people: the only one with a problem was me and once I got over it, everything was cool! I still see in some people (unfortunately, in some family members) that reaction upon learning so and so is gay. It's not fear of the gay person, it's having to examine themselves and where they sit on the continuum between gay and straight. Self exploration can be scary.
Which is incidentally, the literal translation of "homo" (same) + "phobia" (hate/fear)
Phobia has a dual translation as "fear" and also "hatred"
In this case Homophobia is a misnomer since it has little to do with fear of "the gays" or self hatred, and more to do with hatred for "the gays."
The smiling face of Christian Fascism. He'll make sure to ask pretty please when he crucifixes us atheist to the wall...
From DKos via Americablog:
Excellent!
seriously, how can anyone take the bible seriously?
First off, most of the old testament is literally lifted from Babylonian, Asyrian, Mesopotamian, and Egyptian mythologies among other. The Genesis book for example is a compendium of 3 different creation mythologies that predate Hebrew tradition.
Then we have the serious continuity flaws among books. Heck if you read the old and new testaments back to back in their entirety, god comes off as a bipolar sociopath, with a clinical case of jealousy.
And as you pointed out, the rules are so f*cking ridiculous... that somehow you get the idea that the authors of the books were literally f*cking with their intended audience.
How anyone can take these text seriously, to the point of guiding their lives according to their scriptures and expecting other souls to do the same or else, is beyond me...
And the Old Testament alone went through 5 different editions from various Jewish schools.
People who follow Huckleberry's words are the same people who destroyed the 'sanctity' of marriage. If marriage is so sacred, why are there second, third, fourth marriages?
/marriage is an archaic form of property transfer.
One of John Stewart's best qualities is his ability to disagree with someone without being disagreeable. Stewart is always respectful of his guests except he pushed the envelope with Feith.
And he did it without being overly argumentative, rude or "in your face."
He puts most "journalists" to shame.
Really. Fuckabee is not making an argument Against gay marriage. He is making an argument For the preminence of religion. If the religious folks lose on this issue, their control over the minions is at stake.
And, believe me, religion and all of it's canons and rules and traditions is only about one thing - controlling the masses.
That could be a big part of it all...
I thought it was more like pedophiles preying on young boys, using fear, and dressing up in real feminine dresses and wearing funny hats! LOL.
What I find unusual is, the very so-called sinners he perceives and denounces, often find direction from the same medium. The more the extreme ideologies are dismissed and discredited the better, IMO
kudos
"And, believe me, religion and all of it's canons and rules and traditions is only about one thing - controlling the masses."
I myself, would add [MONEY] at least 10% :-P
We need the loving (Believers) to influence the radical ones, as they are the more knowledgeable ones and can relate better.IMO
Just because they believe, in no way should you underestimate their intelligence.
Why don't you take the advice of the title of your book and do the right thing yourself Mike? Superior leaders lead by EXAMPLE, Mike, not this hypocritical do what I say, not what I do garbage. And if you believe all are equal--that settles it then. There are no exceptions.
You Bible pounding and judgmental Neocons need to take a hard look at yourselves and realize that the public has no time for your flagrant hypocrisy and definition of gay people exclusively by their sexual preference instead of the common thread of humanity that binds us all together. Until you change, your "party" will be the permanent minority because your message will only resonate with bigots and opinionated hypocrites.
If the "purpose" of marriage is to procreate and birth our replacements, then what about women who are past child bearing age? Are we never to find a man to love and marry in our golden years because we can't bear children? What about infertile people? Are they not allowed to marry because they can't have kids? Stewart's right. This is more about sex than anything else. As is true in most religious conservative thinking. Everything is about sex to them and/or control over women.
is a good bASSist.
for words"
Inasmuch as I have zero interest in affirming or defending anything at all Huckabee has to say in this interview, or anytime, I was wathching this interview unfold with the expectation that there was going to be a gap -- where there was awkward silence for a moment -- such as when McCain was confronted by the viagra question. Now that was "at a loss for words"
I'm nitpicking I know, but i just always feel duped a bit when a piece is deemed a slapdown where someone is left speechless.
From a pure composure point of view, Huckabee held himself together and carried on his bullshit schtick. that was how I saw it :)
Stewart gives too much air time to right wing crackpots.
He behaves like a lovesick child around Kristol.
It is not enough that he criticizes them or confronts them. He always winds up giving them a low bow and a hearty thank you for gracing his show. Yuck.
The bottom line is that these creeps are on the air everywhere. And then we have to listen to the same old crap over again on his show. It makes me feel that the corporate ownership is pulling the strings.
I would rather hear from people on the left who get little or no air time.
I would rather hear from Feingold, or Kucinich, or even Ralph Nader.
I know these guys have been on his show, but I believe Kristol has been on a zillion times - and Kucinich - I dunno - once?
And of course there are many others.
I want a show that gives a platform to progressives.
I like Stewart - but when he has these fools on, I switch the channel. I simply can't stand to watch them.
One of the things I like about the daily show is that they are equal opportunity satirists, as they would expose the hypocrisy of all political and public figures, regarding of their liberal or conservative backgrounds.
And I think that is a healthy attitude.
That being said, Stewart baffles me sometimes. He gives free range to Kristol, and the strange lovefest the DLS had with Jon McCain for years until his batshit craziness was just to apparent to ignore, was a tad disappointing.
Plain and simple.
Do I need to say more?
I thought it was a remarkably good discussion. JS did make several pointed observations, but Huckabee kept to his points as well. i support gay rights to the max. I just didn't see anything resembling a "smack down". I visit this site several times a day but C&L sometimes devalues itself with misleading headlines like this one.
The crucial wrong thinking, I see, and as Huckabbe said, is that gay marriage would UNDO THE TRADITIONAL FRAMEWORK OF MARRIAGE. I see it as adding an addendum to the current framework, in no way affecting the traditional framework, it's adding to it.
Why is this such a difficult point for right-wingers to understand?
This dick head is a Republican. He's one of the reasons the GOP is in the toilet. The RNC needs to kick him out, and let him form his own Focus on the Family party with James Dobson and Sarah Palin.
They are a criminal organization, as far as I am concerned. I could care less about what they have or they don't have to do to prosper.
Conservatism as an ideology is valid, and in healthy democracy we need to have multiple complementing and sometimes juxtaposing ideologies. However the GOP as an organization, is a criminal enterprise, and needs to be dealt with accordingly.
Grasping on to anything....e.g. 'definitions', 'words', '..5000 years of history..', blah, blah, blah. Whatever they can toss into the air to make you think that "God said it ain't supposed to be.." will be enough to prevent gays and lesbians from having the same social rights as heterosexuals is just way thin ice.
This bible-thumper is just another hypocrite that will win over the "lipstick pig" crowd come 2012. GOD, we are such a ass dumb nation. We scare me!
Nice tie, looks like my shower curtain.
The real issue the Christian Right are freaking out about...
Are MEN BECOMING OBSOLETE?
We don't need husbands to have children or provide for us financially. Abortion and birth control enables women to have babies if and when they choose. And, we don't even need to have sex with them (hetero men) any more if we don't want to. If everyone were lesbians and homosexual men, then those old, nasty white men like McCain and Rove would never get laid or married. And survival of the fittest...!!
What a scary world for hetero, white Christian men, where people live in complete self determination.
In modern America, white, hetero, Christian men will have to prove their worth and earn their way, just like every one else.
Ha! What goes around comes around.
I have no idea what the hell you were just talking about...
relates to Focus on the Family where the woman is to always be subservient to their wonderful husband, even if they beat or sell them. That is what FotF is all about...women as chattel and that is the loss they fear. And I agree with that part wholeheartedly.
I am a white hetero christian male. So I don't even try, I just sit back and wait for the check to come. I am often given things because I'm a white male, i.e. newspapers, food, video rentals, or just cash from various strangers.
My degree from a liberal arts college was given to me and I didn't have to take tests, do assignments, read anything, or attend class. It was assumed that because I was a white, presumably hetero, presumably christian male, I was better and did not need to try. My blatantly conservative "professors" said that there was no need for me to work at anything. It was assumed that I would succeed, so I usually spent my time drinking copious amounts of light beer--chasing it with the occasional bump of cocaine.
I obtained my current job by simply dropping trow and showing my cock and balls to the interviewer. Thus proving my qualifications.
Well..they (the hetero, white, christian males) can still be good for something...right?
that's quite a large labor force...or even better...an army!
Let's send the ones who foamed at the mouth for America to spill blood in the middle east...to the middle east...let them fight to prove their worth useful TOOLS of society!
I suffered through this horrible idiot as my governor for a decade. Huckabee's whole family did everything they could to leech onto the taxpayer and profit from office. His sanctimonious pomposity is eclipsed only by his utter hypocrisy. He lined his pockets in Little Rock while routing homeless people to the other side of the Arkansas River -- so much for his so-called "Christian" charity. He pardoned criminals so they could do free work at his mansion. His wife is a rude, ignorant sow with the intellectual curiosity of a deer tick.
I could go on, as I still shiver at how close he came to the GOP nomination. But hopefully everyone sees through Schmuckabee's snake oil!
I especially like the part of the interview where stewart says that people say they can support themselves until they say "oh, no I have cancer--I need help" (all in a whiney voice).
Stewart is very down to earth. The government should force churches to marry gay couples--
Question:
Is home ownership a civil right?
I want to know if I can take someone to court because I can't afford a house.
The government should not force churches to do anything, in the same sense that churches should not force the government to do anything either.
If churches don't want to marry gay couples in their premises, so be it. But the churches should not be able to prevent gay couples marrying elsewhere.
What I thought was best about this interview is that Jon Stewart clearly exposed the fallacies of those who oppose gay marriage. In particular Stewart utterly destroys the ridiculous notion that there is some time-honored, historically universal, unalterable conception of marriage. As if marriage as not clearly often changed - e.g. polygamy, interracial marriage, arranged marriage, etc..
Good work Jon!
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(If you want to) is to ban divorce. Which will never happen.
Statistics show one in one divorces end up in a broken marriage.
And then the divorced people go on to live adulterous lives if they "remarry."
Their buddy JC shit-canned divorce and says if a woman remarries then she's an adulterer. And since they can't divorce in the eyes of god, they can only have a civil divorce. But to obey god, they cannot get married again.
And no one trumps JC. So everywhere you see shit about protecting marriage, bring up divorce as a poison pill.
Sure, Newt (she turned me into a newt! ... I got better.), I trust you. You made a vow directly to your god, he who determines your everlasting fate: to burn forever in the pits of hell or to play harp on a cloud. This is your belief. And you broke your vow. To your god. Which gets you delivered ballistically into hell. So how can I trust you on anything? If you'll break an oath to god and forfeit your immortal soul for a different piece of ass, you will certainly have no compunction about breaking any law for any reason.
And your sin continues as long as you are screwing a woman who is not your wife. Clinton's sin ended with the last blowjob. They've maintained the sanctity of their marriage.
So a proposal:
If gays can only have civil marriages, then "divorces" can only be civil and the oath-breakers cannot remarry.
Jesus told me so. It was inscribed, in Aramaic, on a potato chip shaped like Mary's head.
E Pleb Neesta, Middle Class, Inc.
GODISNOWHERE
Blessed are the cheese makers.
If sex-ed leads to teen pregnancy, then confession leads to sin.
why can any idiot drop a ten-spot and get married then divorced within 24 hours in Las Vegas?
It's an embarrassment that this is one of the few countries that refuses to allow gay marriage. Even Spain has legalized same-sex marriage.
That's because sin is legal here baby hoo haa!
LOL! (I kid)
People who are against gay marriage and homosexuality can’t handle the thought.
That is the root of it
to create the next generation?
That means that you are also against senior citizens getting married.
I was glad to see Jon Stewart take a strong stand. I think much of the anti gay marriage stuff can be attributed to ignorance. Outside of that, I thought Huckabee sounded extremely naive and pollyannahish. The notion that if we all just did the right thing everything would be wonderful and we'd need less government is a bit far fetched. It might work in some imaginary utopic world, but that's about it.
If marriage is a privilege, then what exactly do you have to do to get that privilege revoked? Think about all of the women who marry convicts they've exchanged letters with after they get out of prison.
I'm glad Jon challenged Huckabee, but I wish he had gone further, and I wish more people would hold his feet to the fire. Why is it never mentioned in the television media that Huckabee thinks AIDS patients should be isolated from the general population, that he compared homosexuality to necrophilia, that he believes women should submit to men, and that he's for banning birth control pills?
By the way, what's funnier than getting a biology lesson from someone who doesn't believe in evolution?
Sounds like gay S&M to me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzlkvI9EZeA
"Just because Mike Huckabee doesn't support the idea of changing the definition of marriage doesn't mean he's a homophobe."
Yes it does.
Jon, thank you for exposing the huckster for what he is - a rabid homophobe. Although the huckster speaks softly and with eloquence, and espouses to be a "man of god", he is no xtian. He is a right-wing bigot who would be thrown out of the temple in an instant by the person he worships.
Thanks again Jon. Nice job, and very well done.
Well gooolllllyyyy Sgt!
I guess I just got my ass handed to me!
First they claim Separation of Church and State. Then in many states you must have a license to become a minister and perform weddings. A person who wants a particular individual from out of state or isn't a "licensed minister" to perform their ceremony must Buy as One day license from the state. The State can refuse to issue a minister's license to anyone the state deems unworthy for any reason.
How is this a Separation from the State?
Republican Right Wingers claim "marriage" is a religious ceremony between a man and woman. Why is it that Judges and Justices of the Peace use the Bible to perform state marriages. These appointed but mostly elected officials are not Ministers of the Gospel! Many of them are only doing it for a little extra cash in their pockets! Or, is it their Civil Duty? If it's their Civil Duty; why not call it a Civil Marriage or Union? It darned sure isn't Religious.
of course Mike Huckabee is a neanderthal, but I expected more from Jon Stewart. he did a great job going to the mat for gay marriage, but he didn't need to help sell out the pro-life movement by agreeing with Huckabee that it was the 1st "great shame" of the nation, with anti-gay bigotry 2nd. of course anti-gay bigotry is shameful, but I do not agree for one second that the fact that we as a society extend the right to choose to women is shameful, or something that needs to change. it is a sign of freedom and individual liberty, not some great embarassment
and/or produce children. To which Jon added the whole gay adoption issue as well which also stumped the Huckster.
I've often wondered why the so called real reporters can't interview this way. Stewart uses humor to disarm his guests, but there was nothing really comic about this most excellent interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kJHQpvgB8
Huckabee Let’s Amend the Constitution Now -so that marriage between a man and a woman is protected and not jeopardized by the “gays” but I think we need to step it up a notch.
More than just an Amendment to protect marriage- I think we need fierce enforcement.
Huckabee you need to criminalize anything that threatens a marriage between a man and a woman.
Step 1-- Adultery needs to be given the harshest punishment allowed no exceptions. Anyone caught cheating on their marriage must face severe mandatory prison time and hard labor. No debates.
Huckabee you need to establish a Marriage Police that works like drug enforcement. All married people must keep vigilance on their neighbors, friends and family –if there is an unhappy marriage it must be reported, documented and repaired!!!!
Sex needs to be an exclusive benefit of marriage---therefore any sex outside of marriage must be outlawed. Contraception should be criminalized it threatens the main purpose of marriage;procreation!!!!
Hotels. motels and restaurants must verify that their clientele are legally married; couples need to carry their marriage licenses with photo id for their protection. Huckabee we can Tatoo married couples with MIN(marriage identification numbers) Make it a federal offense for anyone to remove their wedding ring.
Step 2 Divorce absolutely not allowed..... Abolish divorce law, close divorce courts, jail divorce lawyers, and eradicate divorce settlements.
Any books, poems, movies, songs, television that have any anti marriage messages need to be permanently purged.
Let’s enforce “till death do us part” ----- if you want out of your marriage contract then let’s enforce the death clause.
Finally Huckabee you can clean up our government now —any politicians, judges, senators, congressmen, mayors or dog catchers that have had any divorces or “indiscretions” need to resign now.
dude this is a the best stuff ever u 've got to call jon stewart he would love it :) believe me i came from Poland -a small shitty place where everybody are catolics, i was smeared all over my 50K people town, because i was hiring gay couple in 1998 in my pub, before i had to change middle school because i was the only one in entire school who choose not to attend religion class, i'm open minded as anybody can be and everybody should be :) things that some of these "politics: saying is just beyond me BTW check this out ... mike huckabee vs jon stewart video about gay marriage is gone from youtube!!!
John was quick and good, but could have done better at the very end. Rather than bring up Britney and Federline, he could have shown Huckabee how untrue his comment was. Marriage OBVIOUSLY isn't about bringing in the next generation and training our replacements. We allow infertile women and men to be married, do we not?
I'm starting to think Huckabee is a homophobe, maybe he should start hanging around Fred Phelps!
Jon Stewart shot him down and I loved every second of that episode, between the two of them the guy on the funny channel is more intelligent and way more open minded than the bigot senator!
Family values is a load of BS, right-wing fanatics AKA Focus on the Family doesn't do any good for anyone! Huckabee and the rest of the Bible Thumpers are using religion/historical family values to embrace bigotry and use it as a means of justifying thier homophobia.
I'm a woman, happily married to a man, we can't have children, does this make us an unworthy couple because we aren't going to help populate the world? I'm fully Caucasian, he's bi-racial; there was a time in this country when this wasn't allowed, now we know differently and are better as a country for that knowledge.
i was trying to find this video above this debate between mike huckabee and jon stewart but is gone from youtube!!!!! youtube is saying that "due to copyright laws owned by Viacom video is no longer available!!! that's bull shit!!!!! so don't tell me that we got ourselfs free access to information :)
sincerely - an illegal immigrant from Poland since spring 1999
Check out the Global Pulse video on this, showing how different TV news around the world are covering the issue.
Watch it here: http://www.linktv.org/video/3438
I'm an intern with Link TV, the nonprofit that produces Global Pulse. Interesting to see how the rest of the world is reporting on the news.
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