Troubled Veterans Get A Second Chance in Specialized Vets Court
By Susie Madrak Tuesday Mar 10, 2009 6:15pmIf these veterans courts are anywhere near as effective as the drug courts (which produce much better results than the regular court system), this is good news.
But this progam will have to be balanced with legitimate legal questions. The ACLU has opposed it in Nevada, saying it creates a separate class of people charged with crimes who get different treatment because they're veterans:
Reporting from Tulsa, Okla. -- U.S. military veterans from three decades pass through Judge Sarah Smith's courtroom here, reporting on their battles with drug addiction, alcoholism and despair. Those who find jobs and stabilize their lives are rewarded with candy bars and applause. Those who backslide go to jail.
Smith radiates an air of maternal care from the bench. As the veterans come before her, she softly asks: "How are you doing? Do you need anything?" But if a veteran fails random drug tests, she doesn't flinch at invoking his sentence. She keeps a drill sergeant's cap in her office.
Her court is part of a new approach in the criminal justice system: specialized courts for veterans who have broken the law. Judges have been spurred by a wave of troops returning from Iraq and Afghanistan, battling post-traumatic stress disorder and brain injuries and stumbling into trouble with the law. But advocates of the courts say they also address a problem as old as combat itself.
"Some families give their sons or daughters to service for their country, and they're perfectly good kids. And they come back from war and just disintegrate before our eyes," said Robert Alvarez, a counselor at Ft. Carson in Colorado who is advocating for a veterans court in the surrounding county. "Is it fair to put these kids in prison because they served and got injured?"
The few veterans courts in the nation are modeled on drug courts that allow defendants to avoid prison in exchange for strict monitoring. Most are only a couple of months old, and it is difficult to track their effectiveness, but the results from the first court, which opened in Buffalo, N.Y., in January 2008, are striking.
Of the more than 100 veterans who have passed through, only two had to be returned to the traditional criminal court system because they could not shake narcotics or criminal behavior, said Judge Robert Russell. That is a far lower rate of recidivism than in drug courts.
They're looking at adding this program in Chicago, Pittsburgh, Connecticut, Nevada and Eau Claire, WI. It's already operating in Tulsa.








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That's what American's want for anyone, except themselves, who commits a crime.
Of course this veterans program is a GREAT IDEA!
So is education in prison. I taught college courses in a maximum security prison in NY in the late '70's and early '80's. No time off for going to classes, but you could get a degree. Recidivism for graduates was very, very low.
Of course, St. Ronnie, The Patron Saint of Tax Cut's stopped the program. Why should prisoner's get degree's free when your kid's had to pay.
Now, we've got prisoner's with no degree's because they had no access, and kid's with no degree's because they can't afford them.
No wonder he's a Saint.
PS: The right-wing bitches who are crying about the earmarks, want to spend $1 million to celebrate their Saint's centennial. I can hardly wait to read McCain's twitter snark about that!
So now the "trauma of battle" is an excuse for lawbreaking? Trauma that was taken on voluntarily? Trauma that was experienced in the process of prosecuting a war of aggression?
But it's somehow NOT excusable for a teen, disintegrated from society from birth, born into trauma, to run into the same trouble with the law?
Cry me a river, soldier boy. Come back to me when you have compassion for people who came by their legal troubles the old fashioned way, through poverty and organic mental illness.
the day one of the racist militia in training wingnuts goes off on the public? I am a veteran and I am not sure the reasoning behind it is good.
Now you can join the military and become a full citizen!
Now there are laws for the political and elite (their lawbreaking can be ignored because powerful people are the best), laws for soldiers... And then down there at the bottom is the "common citizen" being given the peasant treatment.
Class war, anyone?
quite a few of these soldiers may have started out in our society just as you suggest, and joined the military as the only option they had. So, I s'pose you could say they've been traumatized twice.
But, thanks a lot for your compassion anyway.......
Your brand of "compassion" enables those who make what amounts to compulsory killing a viable option for escaping the hideous existence that those same war advocates helped create in the first place.
Don't lecture me on compassion. The path you seem to advocate is well-disguised moral capitulation.
Hopefully these vets wont have to go through the kind of courts vaccine injured individuals do in the adversal courts set up to protect the vaccine manufacturers and the federal government who mandates and sets safety standards. Isnt it strange that the same group who is responsible for safety is also reponsible for defending the government in this court?
that didn't take long
I'm not opposed to this type of program...anything that helps a broken person heal is okay with me...certainly better than jail or prison for most petty offenders....but where is the logic in admitting that damaged, broken people commit crimes at a higher rate than emotionaly healthy people......regardless of the reason the person is broken, why would we not apply the same criminal justice approach with all petty offenders and broken souls?....Seems to defy logic...to me...
Regards,
O'Guillory
This is different justice for a different segment of our society. It is abhorrent to the principles these soldiers signed up and fought for, assuming that was the reason they signed up in the first place. This elitism, or class construction is based on nationalistic sentiment and started in the 80's with the rise of the radical right. One of the first effects was the passage of state laws with mandatory life or 30-year sentences for the non-fatal shooting of a police officer during a crime. Shoot a taxpaying civilian, and the punishment is 5-10 out in 3. Respecting authority and patriotism has continued to be paramount to our Constitution's equal protection and other sacred tenets since the 80's. Sigh
if the veterans administation was doing its job, many of these vets would be able to adapt. depression is an obvious symptom of war, and depression is easily treatable. under Bush, the VA totally turned its back on vets returning to life in the states. Bush started a war and at the sametime cut the VA's budget. anyone who serves our country deserves a opportunity to make it. Now, with-that-said... veterans know the differance between right and wrong and should be subject to the same penalties that everyone else is. special treatment after-the-fact isn't the answer, early detection and treatment is.
Prevention is the best cure. Trauma induced pathology is not isolated to just vets. However, it would be a lot more efficient and honest to organize resources at the VA level to help returning vets, rather than take such a dishonest course as the one presented in this article to help those who couldn't get through it.
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