Lieberman's propaganda knows no bounds
By John Amato Saturday Jun 30, 2007 12:17pm
Why does THIS WEEK not have at least some semblance of balance from its guests today? Chertoff and Lieberman were the only people on except the panel and Stephanopoulos does not hold anything Lieberman says up to scrutiny. We're all Nazi appeasers in Lieberman's world. He uses the UK plot to push for more surveillance and the Surge is working to him just fine even though it's not to US commanders. And when September comes, it all depends on what Patraeus says and he still won't really care. It's Iraq for ever!
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Lieberman: "On the facts, reduced violence in Baghdad and incredibly reduced violence in Anbar province to the west, which Al Qaeda in Iraq was in control of a few months ago. The surge is working. You might say that in Iraq, we have the enemy on the run. But for some reason in Washington, a lot of politicians are on the run to order a retreat by our troops even as they are beginning to succeed."
The Surge is not working, Joe...
Three months after the start of the Baghdad security plan that has added thousands of American and Iraqi troops to the capital, they control fewer than one-third of the city’s neighborhoods, far short of the initial goal for the operation, according to some commanders and an internal military assessment.
Let's go to Anbar:
THE US military said it had uncovered 35 to 40 bodies in a mass grave south of Falluja, in Iraq's Sunni dominated Anbar province. A Falluja hospital source said 35 bodies had been retrieved and were being finger-printed to establish their identity. The military said the killings were relatively recent and the bodies had been bound and bore gunshot wounds.
He also wants more scrutiny in America and as Faiz says:
Lieberman claimed, “We’re at a partisan gridlock over the question of whether the American government can listen into conversations or follow email trails of non-American citizens.” This is false; the NSA spying program covered the surveillance of American citizens. The “gridlock” exists over whether the administration will cooperate with Congress by explaining why it feels current law is inadequate and why President Bush decided to ignore the law in authorizing a spying program that almost led to mass resignations at the Department of Justice...read on
And then there's his Nazi/Iran comparisons:
transcript via ABC...
STEPHANOPOULOS: Are you open to taking action in September if he
reports that progress is not being made?
LIEBERMAN: Depends on what he says. I mean, look, to me,
George, you've got to view Iraq in a larger context. I had an Arab
diplomat say to me two weeks ago that what is happening in the Middle
East today reminds him of what happened in Europe during the 1930s,
when Nazi Germany began to make moves and the rest of Europe and the
United States did not act quick enough to stop the Second World War. He was talking about Iran. Iran is on the move in Iraq, Lebanon,
Palestine and Afghanistan. And if we pull out of Iraq, Iran and Al
Qaida are the victors. So my answer is, as long as we have a
reasonable chance of success in Iraq, then I'm going to say it's worth
it for us to stay.
Because if Iran and Al Qaida take over Iraq, they will
destabilize the entire Middle East, and they will strike at us here at
home...
STEPHANOPOULOS: Are you open to taking action in September if he
reports that progress is not being made?
LIEBERMAN: Depends on what he says. I mean, look, to me,
George, you've got to view Iraq in a larger context. I had an Arab
diplomat say to me two weeks ago that what is happening in the Middle
East today reminds him of what happened in Europe during the 1930s,
when Nazi Germany began to make moves and the rest of Europe and the
United States did not act quick enough to stop the Second World War.
He was talking about Iran. Iran is on the move in Iraq, Lebanon,
Palestine and Afghanistan. And if we pull out of Iraq, Iran and Al
Qaida are the victors. So my answer is, as long as we have a
reasonable chance of success in Iraq, then I'm going to say it's worth
it for us to stay.
Because if Iran and Al Qaida take over Iraq, they will
destabilize the entire Middle East, and they will strike at us here at
home...
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.....the "enemy" has been in their "last throes" and have been "on the run" for the last 3 years.
Thanks Connecticut
I wonder if anyone actually falls for this kind of propaganda anymore. I'm sure there are some, but as sites like C&L keep doing their work, more and more people are becoming aware of the lies that encompass the war in Iraq and American foreign policy in general.
If Lieberman speaks, I generally assume it's a lie. That's the nature of the beast, right? Politicians and lying have gone hand in hand for ages. Politicians like lying Joe are only concerned with advancing their interests - and quenching their thirst for power, profits and war.
Some further reading:
"Politicians Lie? Say it Ain't So!"
http://www.populistamerica.com/politicians_lie___say_it_ain_t_so
Dear Connecticut,
Do us a favor, stop voting.
Best regards,
America
VIDEO: Lieberman's propaganda knows no bounds
He uses the UK plot to push for more surveillance and the Surge is working to him just fine even though it's not to US commanders. And when September comes, it all depends on what Patraeus says and he still wont really care. Its Iraq for ever!
Just a stinking traitor.
"Why does THIS WEEK not have at least some semblance of balance from its guests today?"
Ummmmmm.......it's corporate media.
Stephanopoulos is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. As are too many of his guests. As is the Corporation he works for.
Rhetorical question, right?
Lieberman never served in the military. A spokesperson told the Hartford Courant in 1994 that Lieberman received an educational deferment from the Vietnam War draft when he was an undergraduate and law student from 1960 to 1967. Upon graduating from law school at 25, Lieberman qualified for a family deferment as he was already married and had one child.
So much for his credibility on Military matters.
Senator Joe Lieberman
(I/D) Connecticut
What does the I/D stand for?
I DICKED
Four and twenty Cheney-chickens and Bush-buzzards baked in a Quagmire Pie. Bake a Quagmire Pie for the Fourth of July. Serve piping hot. With a special side dish of ole lyin' Lieberman...
The enemy has been in the "last throes" for close to four years. Buaha. In this twisted, paranoid opera magnificent, it is like the death scene where the guy is stabbed but he keeps going on and on and on about his impending death. Geez thanks Connecticut for lil belicose boy Leeeberman.
Most of the country sees the surge not working yet he knows more. Since Lieberman thinks he knows so much could he squeeze in time for a cure for cancer, oh and how about the winning lottery numbers.
Senior Republican Senator Luger stated, just this week, that the Surge is not working, and that it would actually be too dangerous to wait until September before finding a new way to deal with Iraq.
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I know this is off topic, but he looks so much like my Aunt Greta in this photo. She is also an extreme right winger but at least she is honest about it.
It turns my stomach to think that I voted for this war.
Jack Jett
www.jackejett.com
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I meant to say that it turns my stomach that I voted for this man. ...not this war.
Of course I didn't vote for the war as I don't work for Halliburton.
Jack Jett
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He always reminds me of what the little guy in Penn and Teller will look like in about twenty years time.
with each death, my moo-cow naivete is diminished.
Well apparently this latest attack in Glasgow made Joe mess in his panties. What a shame.
Geez, it's like he's on some sort of sick war telethon pleading for more money and support. Arrrggg, when will this all end?
Don't forget to powder baby Joe's pee-pee after putting on a clean pair of diapers. Joe Lieberman, leader of Bedwetter Nation.
-GSD
i love watching holy joe doublespeak
we have to wait till sept....but infact, it doesnt matter a whit what the report is...we have to stay in iraq as a result of the new domino theory
joe is evil
im sorry that there was a time that i admired this man
Is the "surge" working or is it just to hot to fight?
U.S. military fatalities by month Iraq Coalition Casualty Count with averages:
,'03,'04,'05,'06,'07, Tot,Avg
Jan, - , 47,107, 62, 83, 299,100
Feb, - , 20, 58, 55, 80, 213, 53
Mar, 65, 52, 35, 31, 81, 264, 53
Apr, 74,135, 52, 76,104, 441, 88
Jun, 37, 42, 78, 61,126, 344, 69
Jul, 30, 54, 54, 43,101, 282, 56
Aug, 48, 66, 85, 65, - , 264, 66
Sep, 31, 80, 49, 72, - , 232, 58
Oct, 44, 64, 96,106, - , 310, 78
Nov, 82,137, 84, 70, - , 373, 93
Dec, 40, 72, 68,112, - , 292, 73
Tot,451,769,766,753,575,3314,
Avg, 45, 64, 64, 63, 96, ,
On average it seems less deaths occur during the Muslim holy months and during the hotter summer (now). And increasing in the last year (which is just half over).
So for whom is the "surge" working Joe? Doesn't look like its working too well for the soldiers doing the fighting and dying.
Guess he means its working for those doing the talking.
Need Joe for subpoenas and nothing else.
Ignore the Joe troll.
Geez.
Lieberman is delusional--how come we have the leaders of this country having such rich fantasy lives.
The strategy that the troops support Joe? How about, withdrawal. That is the strategy they support, not being cannon fodder on their third, fourth or fifth deployment. Christ, they are patching them up and sending them back into battle with hearing aids, etc.
Our foreign policy should not be run from Israel.
The Baghdad Death Map
Iraqis Offer Their Own Security Assessment of Baghdad Neighborhoods
http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/3398/The_Baghdad_Death_Map
Plain and simple, comparisons between what's happening in the middle east today and the Holocaust diminish the atrocities that the NAZIs comitted. Joe should be ashamed of himself but apparently that's a human quality he's incapable of.
gore's biggest mistake.
Joe the LiarMann...worthless piece of human waste.
And proof positive that the current 'Democrat' Party leadership are a bunch of cowards. *Fighting* Harry Reid my ass.
*laugh* He's calling it a "hydrocarbon law" now ... that's a clever way to obsfucate the reality of the oil laws they want passed. He must have consulted Luntz on this one..
What's with the warmonger rhetoric of making out people who favor an exit from Iraq as not believing in the troops or not giving them a chance. They talk as if the troops are a bunch of kids that hatched a plan to make money on a lemonade stand and they'll get their feeling hurt if we don't let them make a go of it. Are we actually expected to make decisions based upon what we owe the troops in terms of believing in their ability to carry out this task? I'm sure they'll get over it. So if we bring them home it will hurt their morale? So what, they won't need fighting morale if they aren't fighting.
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Our friend Joe said that they took over ares that the Al Qaeda had control of a few months ago. From all the news reports that I have seen, the Al Qaeda never really controlled any territories and they had been compromised by the insurgents that had Al Qaeda under control. Pump up the surge Joe. More lies, more lies.
Quoting Michael Boldin, #3 above:
"I wonder if anyone actually falls for this kind of propaganda anymore. I’m sure there are some, but as sites like C&L keep doing their work, more and more people are becoming aware of the lies that encompass the war in Iraq and American foreign policy in general."
Those of us who read the progressive blogs and news sites are too well educated to accept the propaganda. But the masses won't get the message until the broadcast hosts challenge things like this when they happen. The masses won't get the message until the home town papers report and take issue with the propaganda.
Who decides who gets to be on these gab-fests and what is their contact information?
Sen Palpatine.
"You might say that in Iraq, we have the enemy on the run". There's no "might say" about it, Holy Joe. Either the enemy is on the run or the enemy is not on the run. It has been four years, and the enemy is definitely NOT ON THE RUN, you idiot!
I can never figure out if the neo-cons are just completely disingenuous or utterly ignorant. Joe, Joe, Joe! Al Qaida is funded and run by Sunni militants - primarily out of Saudi Arabia; Iran is a Shiite theocracy. The Iranians have years of antipathy towards the Sunni Taliban. You cannot equate Iran and the Taliban like you could Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy -- it's like trying to compare Stalinist Russia with Nazi Germany -- How did their little alliance against the west work out, Joe??
There are no historical parallels here. Why is it the idiots always want to refight the second world war?
t r u t h o u t | 07.01
"Up to 80 Civilians Dead" After US Air Strikes in Afghanistan
Jason Burke of The Observer UK reports: "Air strikes in the British-controlled Helmand province of Afghanistan may have killed civilians, coalition troops said yesterday as local people claimed that between 50 and 80 people, many of them women and children, had died."
We seem to remember only ONE occupation. Remember the OTHER one? LastGasp-istan?
sulphurdunn @ 39:
the "enemy" is in their country. Our soldiers are not!!
Oh Holy Joe, would anybody vote for you now? I don't think so.
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Why in the world does anyone care about what Lieberman thinks? He is one Senator from one state, not the friggin' messiah! There are 99 others that the media could spend a little face time on. It's the media who give Turncoat Joe any relevance at all.
I am tired of This Week and the enablers of neo-con and right-wing spin. George Stephanapolus is a weenie as a reporter and journalist, preferring civility and courtesy to asking tough questions. Even Pumpkinhead seems like a relentless interogator of his guests by comparison.
The MSM enabled the Iraq War propaganda machine that got us into this mess, and they still bring the same losers who hae been wrong consistenly on their programs, sometimes unopposed.
The PEOPLE finally have to rise up against this government and media establishment. When are people going to take to the streets in mass protest? WHEN???
Joe LIEberman (R-Israel) is really not useful in this country anymore. He needs to move to his home district -- Israel!!
There is not a lesser American patriot in the Senate than this useless traitor!! He is an enemy of democracy and seeks to bring "outside" influence to our political process.
I had no idea CT was a part of Israel...who knew??
Fuck lieberman. Bad for the democratic system of government, bad for the country.
Does any one know what Liberman thinks he is doing by siding with the republicans. Why didn't he just jump to the republican party. Since there is no way in hell other than a massive vote fraud (again) that the republicans will get back in power in congress. And if the dems take more senate seats, they ought to sit Liberman in the hall and go on from there. Of course the republicans are pretty damn good at stealing votes, so they might take back the house and the senate.
Tell you one thing tho, it sure as hell would feel good to see that old wilted turd blossom being frog marched out of the white house and into a jail cell.
Hundreds of anti-war protesters rallied near U.S. President George W. Bush's family compound on Sunday as he prepared to host Russian President Vladimir Putin for a fence-mending summit.
"Just before Putin's arrival, protesters descending on picturesque Kennebunkport sought to remind Bush of growing U.S. public opposition to the Iraq war, which has damaged his administration's standing at home and abroad.
Taking advantage of blanket media coverage of the summit, several hundred demonstrators gathered at the resort's Village Green to vent their anger. Festooned with peace signs, the crowd chanted "impeach Bush."
Ex-Canuck @ 47:
I tried to put up a post about LIEberman not being loyal to this country but to another, but the censors here shot it down...sad...I was hoping free speech was still alive around here...I guess not...
Ken @ 46:
stephie was a clinton crony from the getgo. no surprise that he tows the current clinton/bush incumbent party line. no surprise at all. he has always been a shill.
Lieberman is a traitor and should be stripped of any commitee power the lying, Bush Ass kisser has.
Every single day the Democratic Party does not rebuke Lieberman and allows him to caucus with them weakens the Party and the Message. He is a Repubilcan in the worst sense of the word. PLEEEEESE kick this traitor to the curb!
The only ones on the run are the civilians. Instability is an important element for the powers that be. They want to control Iraq and keep the Oil production almost non existant. No more of this Saddam fellow turning on the oil spigots and flooding the market so the big oily gents that own the companies get pissed. They get to sell ammunitions and they get their $50.00 a barrel. All these greed mongers care not for the slaves...um I mean citizens of Iraq or anywhere else and that includes America.
RH @ 44:
I don't have any fond feelings for Holy Joe, but I find this hell-fire condemnation repugnant. More worthy of the fundie right wingers.
Joe Bleederman wines so much, he must be a vineyard. Full of the world's sourest grapes.
Now that he's forever ruined for higher office, I suspect he's auditioning to take over for Fran Drescher in The Nanny. Only Joe'll be a lazier nanny that assigns the dirty, deadly work to the kids while whoring himself to the insurance industry.
He and his neoclown buddies have always had their sights set on Iran more than any other country only because Iran's government won't be bought and owned by Big Oil and Big Capital.
Sure, I recognize fully the potential threat its government provides. It can only bring a powerful nation to its knees by getting it's military overstretched in so many foreign conflicts that it collapses economically. (see USSR/Afghanistan). Directly, it will never physically attack our homeland. It can fund the random acts of destruction that terrorists can cause, but it's only motivated to do so because we keep threatening it.
Bleederman's cures aggravate the problem. Solutions require vision and logic. Unfortunately, his winery has never grown those. He's produced record harvests of chutzpah but has yet to successfully grow a single set of testicles.
The best part of good ol' Joe ran down his mothers ass crack....he ought to do the same...
just a few stories joey-boy doesn't want you to read.
DINOsaur Joe is destined for the dustbin of history for having hitched his horse to a complete loser.
I wonder how the voters of his home state feel now? He's an embarrassment to all of us, Dems, libs, progressives...everyone except the Worst President Ever.
thebewilderness @ 43:
I wish that statement was factual... but I fear it is not... There are PLENTY of "too busy to give a fuck Americans" in this country... Then you always must keep in mind these voting machines which are more fixable, then paying a prostitute and receiving oral sex.
Plenty of people vote for him and the legions of scum that are just like him or worse...
Granted plenty of people in this country do not vote at all, most of that stems from the "Its not like my vote counts, or matters anyway" mentality... Which while I abhor that mindset, due to my naturaly optimistic nature... I am starting to really relate to it.
Joe is an insane madman... I can only hope that the Divine Nuclear Fire he prays for hourly consumes him and all the rest of them, like it will the rest of us before they can slither into their caves.
I wonder who this "Arab" Diplomat his... Is Joe using the term "Arab" interchangably to the actual meaning of the word SEMITE?....
As in reality Arabs and Jews are very close cousins, if not even genetic brothers... Their religion is intertwined just as their genes are... So are the Semites uniting against the Persian "Nazis"??
Sigh...
God,
If you are up there.. We could use some really big holy lightning bolts to come down here and do some house cleaning.
Thanks.
Lieberman looks like he's wearing a melted Halloween mask
"I had an Arab diplomat say to me two weeks ago that what is happening in the Middle East today reminds him of what happened in Europe during the 1930s"
That lying little bastard has the NERVE to wave hearsay as evidence after what happened in Iraq. Cut his mike.
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Dr. Matt @ 4:
I know I'm making a generalization here, but CT has given us BUSH and now LIEBERMAN. Quiet the pair I might add.
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"....unfair to our troops who are fighting"
Yeah, I can hear it now, one soldier turns to his buddy and says, "Dude, there is no way I'm going back home now, it's not fair, I'd rather stay here and get my butt blown, if not today, then perhaps tomorrow."
Does Lieberman have sand for a brain?
From a psychological perspective, the Bush/Cheney administration and its neocon allies succeeded in promoting the misguided and destructive war in Iraq by targeting our core concerns about vulnerability, injustice, distrust, superiority, and helplessness. Looking ahead, they will likely try to sell us a continuing occupation of Iraq—or an attack on Iran—in much the same way. I examine these warmongering appeals and how to counter them in a new 10-minute video entitled "Resisting the Drums of War." It's available for viewing on YouTube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81UKnb5zJbM.
Yes, Jon, he does. And it's running out.
Hey, not all of Connecticut voted for Joe. We elected Ned Lamont in the primary. We are just as frustrated with him as the rest of the country.
You can tell when Lieberman is lying through his teeth when he talks about Iran and compares it to Nazi Germany. His voice is shaking. He doesn't even believe the crap he's spewing, but he hopes that some gullible idiot listening will buy into his propaganda.
Lieberman disguises his loyalty for Israel by claiming that the surge is working. Once he says that he hopes to earn the trust of Bush loyalists. He then moves on to sell his BS on Iran.
Nice try, Lieberman. What a hack!
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#67 Lieberman goes for the non-sequetor whenever he gets into trouble or into a lie. He's not as good at it as, say, dear leader Bush, but he works hard at it.
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Lieberman is an expert on nothing except fear mongering. Might as well ask Paris Hilton what she thinks about it for all the good that it will do you.
Good ol' Joey is looking more and more like Barney Fife every day
Barney Fife was funny tho
OK, we're supposed to immediately believe the "Surge" is working because Joe Lieberman says it is? More and more I'm reminded of a story I read as a kid. Supposedly Abe Lincoln asked some guy, "How many legs does a dog have if you call his tail a leg?" The guy answered, "Well, five." Then Lincoln said, "No, only four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg."
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I once heard that a good way to tell if someone is lying is by taking notice of how many times they blink during the statement in question. I counted over 100 blinks, 35 in the first 20 seconds of his statement. This is just speculation I know...but whatever.
Yeah they all do the rapid blinks don't they...
Lieberman, Bush, Blair, Ashcroft, Powell, Rice, Clinton, Santorum, etc, etc, etc
It is either they Don't blink at all...or they have epilepsy.
rduke @ 77:
I was on topic... someone WRONGLY erased my very much ON TOPIC post... And called me a RACIST~~!
[No one called you a "racist". Reading comprehension, it's not just for breakfast anymore]
I had to turn it off. I can't listen to his B.S. anymore. What a nasty, bitter, little grey man. You know, the kind of people that don't even feign to listen to other opinions. He's got a hate-on for Iraq, and won't rest until everyone is dead.
Voter of Connecticut Here's your sign
#74 marie
I loved that one
They are ALL arguing about how best to "control" Iraq, which means a lose, lose situation for Iraqis, because the U.S. military has planned to occupy Iraq for many years. and by having the audacity to label ANYBODY a " terrorist " that resists OCCUPATION, displays the depth of their depravity, greed and inhumanity. The U.S. is an imperialist nation, no different from John Dillinger robbing a bank, except DILLINGER didn't have help from the media or tax payer money.
does anyone really care what this spineless piece of excrement thinks. he needs to take his elmer fudd ass into retirement and shut his mouth. sick of this dude. also sick that the dems just outright state, get to whichever party you're threatening to go to because the democratic party does not need nor does it want you.
Thank God this mamzer wasn't Vp.
Contradicting Holy Joe is like arguing with your senile grandfather. Absolutely pointless.
I've spent much time with elderly in the final years of their lives. He's failing; his body is wearing out. My bet is he dies, essentially of old age, before his current term expires. Most people who present the same physical appearance that he does(skin hanging off of his face, hooded eyes, etc) last less than 3 years. Even heavy makeup isn't hiding it. I am also convinced that he is steadily progressing into deep dementia. I believe him to be only marginally sane at this point, progressively losing his grasp on reality and sanity with each passing day. Before it's over, his engine's only going to be hitting on his ego and alligator brain pistons. I question his current mental competence and fitness to handle is current job.
Jeez, this WordPress thing is really great. It gives me time to take a shower and make myself a pina colada before my comment is even posted.
Where Was The Confrontation?
Boy did Joseph Lieberman get away with a "free" speech Sunday. George Stephanopoulos let him have the floor to fully expel his brand of propaganda smoothly without any interruption, counter or confrontation. Happy birthday Lieberman. Or is it his birthday? It might as well be.
Everything about Lieberman has become Republican, so he better ready his frowning face because he's history come the next election. From funding to Al Qaeda in Iraq, Lieberman has completely turned Republican. Dam the seat that gives the Democrats the majority, I would give this man his marching orders just so he feel what it's like to loose his power advantage. Once Harry Reid makes up his mind, I am sure he will feel good about telling Lieberman to go to hell.
I see Lieberman is another who feels America has bought the Al Qaeda in Iraq claim. He's using Al Qaeda's name as an assuming fact that everyone knows is so. It truly angers me to here the propaganda about Al Qaeda in Iraq. Glenn Greenwald explains this lie very nicely.
I have probably said this before, but it's worth saying again. The left of the political spectrum has weak representation in every medium except the internet. The comments expressed by those of us who feel strongly about the unjust ways of this administration must continue to support what is right. The truth must flow, and the internet is our river.
Joseph
The US military suffers the most deaths yet in the last quarter, thus The Surge is working. McCain and Lieberman make obvious liars out of themselves by surrounding themselves with snipers, massed troops, helicopters and body armor for their photo ops. Why won't you listen to the truth, America? The Surge is WORKING!!
Boy did Joseph Lieberman get away with a “free” speech Sunday. George Stephanopoulos let him have the floor to fully expel his brand of propaganda smoothly
Joseph
It's like watching air come out of an ass
a guy @ 60:
Salvador Dali got his inspiration for his timepieces from it. Which were also accurate just two seconds of every day.
I can't figure this out that there is nobody, absolutely nobody to come ahead and ask not for the hard questions but to ask the right question. While Joe is promoting the already lost surge, he is laying out plan for the next war with Iran. Nobody from the left or Democrats is questioning what is Iran and Al Qaeda got together. It is disastrous that after five years into this war, the enemy is not clear for these politicians.
God help us you one believes in it....
Destabilize the Middle East IF we pull out?
How about it is destabilizing at a breakkneck speed because we occupied Iraq and because we continue to do so now...
I think he is a closet Nazi. What he advocates sounds like the Gestapo. Israel is another place where the powers that be control the media to the world.
feh. Stephanopoulos had a mancrush on Clinton's brain and it was all just too icky when he found out he had a body too.
Of course he's not going to challenge Lieberman. They both broke up with the same guy.
Taps oer' U.S. Embassy in Iraq
As the fat lady sings;
in the rockets' red glare;
who sucks up the blame;
that the flag pole's gone bare?
Somebody has to give the order to abandon Emerald City.
Some Iraqi group is going to be video'd celebrating, flag raising, flag burning and effigy burning as they enter the Palais de Bush hubris. Will it be Sunnis or Shiite Sadrists? God forbid al Quaeda will even have a cameo appearance.
Bush, on his watch, will never withdraw the troops needed to keep our Embassy operating.
He will let this political conflagration happen on the next, presumably Democrat', President's watch.
The world will not soon forget this spectacle when it happens.
It is a political fireball that may sear and burn for decades.
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Just something to think about!
--cognito-rex--
If there's anything to be learned from WWII, is Democratic led America kicks ass.
We can't live in the past when it comes to current problems. Chamberlain thought it was another Alsace and Lorraine feud between Germany and France.
We can't be frozed by Vietnam syndrome either.
But we need exit plans so you don't get pinned down like we did in Vietnam.
To put it into Texan parlance, boosh is a dumbass.
As long as our troops are over there killing someone, Lieberman will tell us that we are winning. As long as there is an ebb and flow in the number of U.S. casualties, Lieberman will see signs of progress.
Excuse the sports metaphor, but Joe is like the courageous corner man who won't throw in the towel no matter how badly his fighter is getting pummeled.
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Has Holy Joe had a stroke? The right side of his face looks off-kilter.
Couldn't have been a stroke of conscious.
Not having Turncoat Joe as VP is the only good thing that came out of the 2000 election
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