Michael Ware: Lieberman has taken an excursion into fantasy
By John Amato Tuesday Jul 10, 2007 3:15pm
CNN's Michael Ware responded to Lieberman's neocon delusions to Anderson Cooper about the insurgents suddenly being "on the run." CNN still labels Joe as a (D)
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SEN. JOSEPH LIEBERMAN (D), CONNECTICUT: The war is not lost in Iraq. In fact, now American Iraqi security forces are winning. The enemy is on the run in Iraq. But, here in -- in Congress, in Washington, we seem to be, or some -- some members seem to be on the run, chased, I fear, by public opinion polls.
COOPER: Is the enemy on the run in Iraq, Michael?
WARE: No, certainly not. And I think we need to be aware that it's enemies. I mean, America doesn't face just one opponent in this country, but a whole multitude, many of whom are becoming stronger, the longer the U.S. occupation here, or presence here, in Iraq continues. So, unfortunately, I'm afraid that Senator Lieberman has taken an excursion into fantasy.
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Our enemas have the runs?
For the Bush administration and its allies, the marketing of the "surge" in Iraq more and more looks like an ad for a Hollywood flop. In this case, the box office numbers are in and the film is a dismal failure. And yet a small but reliable group of friendly critics continues to offer rave reviews for "Iraq: The Surge."
For the details, see:
"Iraq Surge Wins Rave Reviews."
I respectfully disagree.
Y'see, some who still reside in the "reality-based" world still don't get it: That those in charge of the world are actors playing their roles; we are merely here to comment on their performances.
And...Action!
None of us, in the know and keeping informed, did not need Michael Ware
to tell us that LIE-berman is an idiot. Again, someone on this site being from
Ct., please tell us how the citizens of that State feel about electing that asshole..
Iraqi's are just groovin on that Joementum
There should be an age limit to be in the Senate.
I watch Lieberman and McCain and the thing I see with those two is SENILITY.
I'm tellling you Liberman and McCain are twins seperated at birth. One of them does some dumb fu*king thing and then the other one comes along and does almost the exact same thing. It's such that I'm beginning to get the two of them confused.
He left on that excursion 8 or 9 years ago (at least).
Thanks a lot, CT! 6 more years of Lieberman! What were you clowns thinking of!!!???? Fuuny thing is, that when he does come up for re-election, I think he'll be singing a different tune and these speeches will be played back to him one by one...let's just hope CT remembers and runs his sorry ass out of town on a rail!
pissed off patricia Says:
I’m tellling you Liberman and McCain are twins seperated at birth.
Do you say that because they each have half of a brain?
It's "fantasy land" Michael. Friggen drunk.
Lieberman is either delusional, or he has an agenda he's not willing to reveal publicly. I wonder what it is?
Alright, I confess to being a good old white bread mainstream religious American; it's my personal business and I keep it that way. I do an excellent job, in my opinion, of reading nuance and color into everyone and everything. The world as I experience it simply is not black or white nor good or evil.
But I look at Lieberman up there in total deadpan, speaking utter garbage without any semblance of humility, and I think," that dude sold his soul for another term in Congress. No question about it."
Thank God I’m an Atheist, I'm not sure combined they would have half a brain. I think they have about an eighth of one combined and they share it.
I want to know when the hell this stopped being a democracy. Okay, wildly fluctuating opinion polls could have an argument made against them, but when the majority of the people in this country want something done, or not done, and there is such a sustained sentiment, why have we not put this to a vote. Screw a pole. Lets vote. The bush administration is an irony if there ever was one. He hides in the fact that we as americans do not have the democratic power that we should have. All the while pretending its this wonderful democracy he is spreading to these poor people. Since when did the will of the country become unimportant, a sidebar, a poll to be used against us. Does it not sound like he is saying " these polls all show our democratic country wants to get out of this thing, well you can't listen to the people! they are just the people!" THAT IS WHAT HE IS SAYING
nirak @ 6:
Yet with all that age, there's no maturity. They still need (and don't have) adult suprervision.
Bite me, irongit. Ware's more of a man than you will ever be. Ex-pro rugby player, attorney, boxer, (that's where I'm guessing the nose came from or it could have been the motorcycle accident that almost ended his rugby career) and he's still living outside the green zone. And he's got the balls to tell the truth to the likes of McCain and Lieberman. He's a true renaissance man.
Some of these politicians need a good shaking. LIEberman is one of them along with the other two McCain and Graham. Someone just needs to grab them by the shoulders and shake them so hard their teeth fly out of their head. Why the hell do they say these things and then how can they show their face around afterwards?
Lieberman is a dog, a conscienceless freak who drinks vintages of Republican Kool-Aid that would render Karl Rove comatose. That or he is under some kind of remote control.
When he is tried for treason, faces the guillotine and an autopsy is performed, I fear we may find an implant placed by Karl Rove or one of the crime cult's operatives. No one under their own control could be this obscenely out of touch with reality.
Likely, Rove has somehow lodged an implant that allows him complete control of Lieberman's nervous system and higher executive functioning - maybe even speech - like those weird parasites that take over crabs and completely control their motions in order to help the parasite nurture eggs she lays in the crab's body.
I am sick of it. politicians like to convey that they think if americans were given votes in this sort of thing we would drive the country off a cliff. Well, we are letting them drive, and we are going off the cliff anyway. WE NEED the right to vote on these things. Period
BOING!
Bush orders Miers not to testify
AP - 5 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - President Bush ordered his former White House counsel, Harriet Miers, to defy a congressional subpoena and refuse to testify Thursday before a House panel investigating U.S. attorney firings.
You are so right, matt greer. Bush says he pays no attention to polls, but polls are our voice and if he ignores our voices, he ignores us. He admits doesn't listen to us. Let's fire his ass and his big shooter friend too.
Republicans suspect that Mr.Corzine is a pervert
If Harriet no longer works for bush, how can he order her to do anything? Where's the part about this being a free country and all. Bush just said again yesterday that the almighty gave everyone the desire to be free. Didn't Harriet get one of these desires?
Elizabeth Dole is now on the run from Bush's FAiled Iraq policy.
(although I personally think she belongs to the Senility Club too).
The Bush Legacy
http://tinyurl.com/zgqdt
pissed off patricia @ 24:
Good question....someone out there have a legal answer to POP
Michael has been over there in the hell hole since the war began. If he gets drunk, who the fu*k could blame him. That said, that guy is all about guts and he's great. After avoiding getting blown up for four years, he's not afraid to say what's on his mind. Too bad more reporters aren't like him.
Doggiebobo @ 27:
I don't, but I would get used to hearing about how bill clinton did the same thing. (I know that sounds like a generality) I would put down 200 dollars right now that says you will hear about Mr C doing the same thing at least 5 times tonight.
these are the dangerous ravings of a senile old man. elmer fudd needs to get off the train the parade passed him by years ago. now he's just a despicable but dangerous old man. he lives in this fantasy land and he cannot accept the truth because the truth will mean his demise. so in order to keep his legacy alive, he is willing to risk the continuance of our nation and the lives of our military.
wake up america. this guy needs to be thrown out of the party. as an independent, he feels he wields the deciding vote. well, screw him, the dems need to stand up in unison and tell him to go away. not even sure whether the repubs would want him at this time. they are finally beginning to see the light and impeachment is back on the table. joe lieberman made his bed, and now the troll needs to crawl back under it.
we've put up with him enough. once again, let's thank our Connecticut brethren for their wisdom in electing this man. yuck, he makes my skin crawl every time he starts that sickening drawl of his.
Thanks doggiebobo, I am serious about that question. Today Sara Taylor said she took an oath to the president when she worked for him. Leahy quickly explained to her that she took an oath to protect the constitution, not the president. The look on her face told me she was surprised by that.
Doggiebobo @ 27:
I do not. But I would get used to hearing "bill clinton did it". I would put 200 dollars on this being the strongest argument they had, and another 200 saying we will hear that 5 or 10 times tonight.
Are the voters in Conn. really that stupid to vote for this jerkov.
Retorical I guess.
oops
If clinton did it, fine. I still don't understand how it works.
Excursion? Joey left town sometime after he helped but Bush in the whitehouse as one of the wimpiest VP candidates? Remember, he was picked cause he was sooooooo moral.
So he's exchange his scolding morality of Blow-jobs for a blood thirsty craving for killing brown people.
Yeah, he's really an Ethical Beacon all right!
pissed off patricia @ 35:
It does not, or should not rather. I just know these GOP asses are going to make their argument around that. Unfortunatley it is one of the vauge spots in our government, and since the people in power make all the calls on what is legal and what is not.......
pissed off patricia @ 31:
I realized you were serious...as am I. Seems strange to me that a person who "used
to be" in the employement of the U.S. Gov.(be it in the Executive Office or elsewhere)\\
can be told that they cannot give testimony. Didn't I just see yesterday the EX-Surgeon
General go public w/his negative comments/statements regarding how he was censored
while in office??? WTF...I do not know the law, but telling Harriett M. or anyone else
they cannot give testimony sounds like we have a dictator and have lost our civil rights.
We were never meant to leave Iraq, and the only way bush could pull that off was to NOT impement a draft, because it is like ly the only thing that would have aroused enough outrage and public sentiment enough to derail his war machine. Not only are we losing our liberties, we are watching them be tossed around like dice in a rigged craps game. Again, and again.
>matt greer @ 32
When you hear your child say, "but so and so did it" , what would you say to them.
NOW THINK, why is anyone letting this argument stand without a tongue thrashing??
These repugs are pathetic with this 3rd grader retort.
Doggiebobo @ 27:
You have to start with the assumption that Bush, Rove and Cheney don't give a rats ass if it's got legal standing, this is about running out the clock?
Any court challenge to executive privilege can be stalled in court (why do you think they brought in Feilding) till these thieving bastards have long since blown town with the cash?
It's simple. Drag it out, knowing the democrats are SOOOO chicken, they won't issue subponeas and contempt citations till later and later...
Start the court battle, realizing, Alberto's going to help the stall (what, you think they are keeping him in for any other reason?)
Then, issue everyone a blanket FULL IMMUNITY PARDON for any possible crimes on the way out the door?
And, retire to Crawford and Martha's Vineyard with hundreds of millions in war profits?
Done deal and they are untouchable.
Face it, the crime is already completed.
They stole the election (twice), reduced the taxes of their cronies to virtually zero, gave the corporations a license to destroy the environment and people and never get called to justice, they started a war strictly for the benefit of corporations the mostly owned, and now that's it's going to hell, they are getting ready to steal out of town with the cash leaving us AND our kids with the bill.
Look boss, da plane, da plane!
BOOOM.
Tattoo...tattoo! Damn, I forgot we're both brown!
Ironchef @ 11:
Fantasy is an abstract concept, his use makes actually more sense than adding "land" as you suggested.
However, in decence of Mr. Ware's drunkeness... I'd be shit faced too if I had to spend more that a couple of days covering Iraq's reality first hand.
WashStateBlue @ 41:
If all or most of what you say is accurate, then it seems that in lieu of us having to
put up w/that deplorable group in D.C. for another 17 months, "We The People" need
to take to the streets and if necessary start a revolution....something I didn't think I
would ever be suggesting..
An excursion into fantasy?
More like permanent residence.
MeMyselfAndI @ 43:
UGH! The rumour that Ware is a drunk was started as a joke by Michael, himself, on the Bill Maher show. But the reichwingers like Drudge (sounds like something someone forgot to flush), and Laura Ingrams picked it up and started to spread it to discredit Ware's reporting. BUT having said that, I read a piece by Ware, where he had one of he Iraqi translators and friend, kidnapped and tortured for days because he worked for a westerner. In the piece, Ware admits that this wore on him everyday and he felt he could never make amends. If that isn't a good excuse to start drinking, I don't know what would be.
Wow, I've got to stop thinking with my ovaries. I meant to say, one of Ware's Iraqi friends was kidnapped and tortured because of his association with Mick.
ysbaddaden @ 1:
OH SHIT
;)
Ladybird Johnson has just passed away.
just click your heels 3 times and say "i wish we we're back in the U.S."
matt greer @ 15:
This is a great post! Democrats should come out and say this... "ah, we're a democracy so shouldn't we listen to the American people?"
And Bush obviously doesn't care about the American people. Sara Taylor today said she took an oath to the President when in fact she takes an oath to the Constitution. Bush every day ignores the will of the people.
He is so delusional that he must think what he's doing is saving us from all those terrorists... its sickening that we have a five year old in the WH.
What is with the friggin' (D) after Lieberman's name?
Ware is the MAN! I love that guy. He never holds back.
Delusional. Dysfunctional. unDemocratic. prone to Despotism. Dangerous and beholden only to his own Dementia. And we have the pleasure of his company until 2012. We can only hope that beginning in 2009 we won't need him in the Caucas. To all, the presence of Libermann in this "Senate by a Thread" should be sufficient inspiration to redouble our efforts to work for that magic quorom of sixty.
Doggiebobo Says:
We The People” need
to take to the streets and if necessary start a revolution….something I didn’t think I
would ever be suggesting..
With every passing day, with every new outrage, it looks as if that might be your only option.
What has happened to your opposition party, anyway? Surely, the U.S. Democratic system of government is not set up to protect the criminal leaders; but is there for the benefit of the people. If it is the intention of America to spread Democracy throughout the world, what kind of example are you showing?
even after we leave.... those "enemies" are going to make there way over here.
george bush has created more terrorists and stirred them up, organized them, sharpened their skills. and now we have an enemies that cannot be beat in Iraq by any conventional means. and sadly because of bush they will show up at our front door step even angrier then they were before. bush is worse than incompetent. he's so bad... he's like osama bin ladens puppet.
Doggiebobo @ 4:
Thanks for allowing a CT native to respond to some of the hostile blamery in regards to Lieberman. Many, many CT voters were disgusted with Lieberman and his neocon-oriented politics..that's why we tried to get Ned Lamont voted in! Remember him? Believe me, there were a lot of people working very hard to try and defeat Lieberman...and most likely the people reading this blog and other progressive sites AREN'T the ones who the hostility should be geared towards. I am just as outraged and angered as other progressives that Lieberman is ephing it up for all of us...and more so since I have to share a state with the idiots who voted him back in.
I almost fell off my chair when Lieberman was talking about the training camps in Iran and he said... "and we know where they are"... flashback of cheney talking about the WMDs in Iraq! Of course, cheney didn't know because there weren't any! So, with that in mind, I immediately came to the conclusion that there aren't any training camps in Iran! Willing to bet it is just another administration lie!
"Chased by public opinion polls"....if it isn't the public who congress is supposed to listen to, who is it?
Sorry, I never watch anderson blooper. A thirteen year old girl would do a better job than blooper.
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Not sure if this has been noted yet, but CNN are still listing Lieberman as a Democrat (@ 0:10 of that vid.). WTF?
[...] Ware is at it again, no doubt upsetting his mate Tim Blair, and contradicting the wingnuttery out there. SEN. JOSEPH [...]
Someone PLEASE send Senator Lieberman the application pack to join the Republican Party? The utterances coming from him (1) seem to come straight from that Party's playbook (if it has one) and (2) seem to indicate that he has abandoned any pretence of independent or other tag.
Michael Ware is good. He's there at ground zero in Iraq and tells it like it is.
He mentioned on an interview from Iraq this past week, "the result the Iraqis want is different from the result the Bush Administration wants" or something to that effect. The Bush Administration wants one single head to lead Iraq. But the Iraqis don't think this is possible at this point or even attainable with the different factions within Iraqi today. Neither will be able to agree on the goals, nonetheless Benchmarks for that matter.
My point is I take Michael Ware's opinion on what is going on in Iraq over most anyone elses. The Bush Administration needs to start listening to Michael Ware for the truth instead of living in their fantasy land of how they want Iraq to be.
The Connecticut Republican Party voted LIEBERMAN in, and are fully responsible for anything that man says or does in my opinion.
As a lifelong Democrat, it is utterly sickening to think that someone with his total lack of character once was OUR candidate for Vice President!
[...] having assured us at regular intervals since 2003 that things are looking up, has finally changed his tune. Now, things aren’t just looking up but the USA is winning. Better than [...]
matt greer @ 15:
The neo-cons actually don't believe in opinion polls. They believe they know what's best for the people and the "noble lie". They think they can lie and rule from the shadows if they believe it benefits the country. It's also about power. The whole point of invading Iraq was to show the world, we are the new Alpha Male. This thought process started after the Cold War. The neo-cons decided then it was the best opportunity to become the new world leader. Paul Wolfowitz was a major force behind this ideology and neo-cons formed the PNAC to put their plan into action. It went into hibernation during the Clinton Administration although they sent a report to Clinton suggesting the US step up its military force and show its strength. Members of the PNAC were students of Leo Strauss. If you look up Leo Strauss and study his teachings what the neo-cons in the Bush Administration are doing will make perfect sense. 9/11 was the perfect opportunity to put this plan into action. But they were so blinded by their ideology they never considered the consequences of the invasion.
A democracy simply cannot operate with this type of political ideology.
The "noble lie". If you think about it, it all makes sense. And they will continue to lie, spin, manipulate and make their own rules as they see fit. Your opinion or mine does not factor into the equation at all. They will do whatever they have to to ensure the US is the world dominate superpower.
The problem is, it has backfired miserably. And now Bush is worried about his Legacy and how History will remember him. I hope history notes the neo-con experiment as a disaster. I think our founding fathers would roll over in their crypts if they knew this administration was following this ideology. It flies in the face of Democracy and is more imperialist then democratic.
The leading neo-cons are Libby, William Kristol's father who I can't recall, and Paul Wolfowitz. All were students of the teaching of Leo Strauss. Other neo-cons that have had an effect on this nations policy are Charles Krautheimer and of course Dick Cheney.
So if you look up Leo Strauss you'll see why this administration could care less about what we think.
Now, Now, let's not jump on CNN too quickly. Perhaps the D stands for the Delusional Party. It's a new political party, with a Crawford, Cheyenne, Hartford leadership, and a rabid neo-con base. Hopefully it will be even more shortlived than its 19th century precurser, the appropriately named Know-Nothing Party. (Believe it or not this party gor its name because its members were told that when asked about the party they were to answer "I know nothing")
Chip....if only the Republicans, right wingnuts, corporatists, con-servative Straussian worshippers...knew about his 'alternative' lifestyle parties & repeated references to the "Spartans" & "Romans"...the 'scantily clad' gladiators...
I know, I know...its not accurate to say that all Republican "Straussian" con-servatives...are self-hating gay men...
Well...it may not be 100% accurate...but with all the information available...it certainly qualifies as an epidemic...
After all...they still go to Drudge for their 'white house gossip'...but never want Matt to be happily married... ;)
Am I the only one that can't get the videos to work? I've tried it in IE and firefox.
It just says "connecting" then "ready" and no video.
Chip @ 68:
for sure. I actually started following all of this after watching the documentary, "the power of nightmares" which goes back to the 30s and 40s and the formation of the neocon movement under strauss. I understand these things, I just try to look for a way to frame the argument, in my opinion that is what is so sorely lacking in this country. We allow the politicians to force feed us their way of thinking, and only theirs. You have to be able to cut to the heart of the issue and show people what the actual argument should be about. I firmly believe that if more people knew about what is going on, if more people could see the facts as they are, we would get much more done, the ball rolling , so to speak. But like I said before bush not instituting the draft has saved him from any serious opposition, and I would even say without people having the motivation to question what they are saying, which would lead to some opposition. I understand now what Charlie Rangel was saying a few months back.
Btw, Michael Ware is embedded his crooked nose quite a way up the rectum of US military.
is = has, d'oh!
Lieberman is a "republican wolf in democratic sheeps clothing", too coin a bibical phrase, he is first a Jewish man loyal too his Jewish roots, definitely subserviant too the Israeli MOSSAD first and USA second, he will try too get "American men/women killed in a proxy war for his Israeli masters", he is harping on us attacking Iran, it does not take a rocket scientist who would benefit the most from this, and who will have too pay a world wide price if we did it.., Israeli interests are first with old Joe Lieberman, he votes with republicans but pretends too be a democrat, cannot win democratic nomination so he goes independant, and wins by they way, follow his money and I bet you will find his monetary support comes from republicans and Jewish roots..! Anti-Semitism is hollared if anyone mentions his Jewish background, but his steadfast putting Israeli interests first over America exposes his true loyalty, so he is cutting off his own nose too spite his own proverbial face, it will not take a rocket scientist too see his agenda, maybe his constituients will see thru him next election I can pray and hope anyway..
Theres a mistake in the post, Connecticut democrats didnt vote him in, connecticut republicans did. He lost the Democratic primaries and Im really ashamed to say he represents my state. Hes an I/D mpt a D.
Joe Loserman isn't even a republican nor a democrat, he's a neoconserative who doesn't represent me now.
One man's hell is indeed another man's heaven and Lieberman is too senile to tell which one he went to when he died years ago.
i am from connecticut and am embarrased to call that man my senator. i was hopeful he would be replaced when he lost the democratic primary in the 2006 election. however, ned lamont ran a poor campaign and there's too many sheeple in this state that would follow that man straight into the baghdad war zone (while he ducked out of the way). he is clearly dellusional and has only 5 more years until the next election. yippee hooray!
Michael Ware: Lieberman has taken an excursion into fantasy
[...]No, certainly not. And I think we need to be aware that it?s enemies. I mean, America doesn?t face just one opponent in this country, but a whole multitude, many of whom are becoming stronger, the longer the U.S. occupation here, or presence here ...
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