Missouri Governor Signs Anti-Choice Bill From Sanctuary Of Baptist Church
By Logan Murphy Tuesday Jul 10, 2007 7:01pm
Via Kansas City Star:
Missouri abortion clinics will face new regulations and new restrictions on teaching sex education classes.
Gov. Matt Blunt signed legislation Friday placing more abortion clinics under government oversight by classifying them as ambulatory surgical centers. Planned Parenthood claimed the law, HB 1055, could force it to spend up to $2 million to remodel one of its clinics and halt medical abortions at another site.
The new law, which will take effect Aug. 28, also bars people affiliated with abortion providers from teaching or supplying materials for sex education courses in public schools, and it allows schools to offer abstinence-only programs.
It cements into state statute an existing grant program for centers that encourage women to deliver babies instead of having abortions.
Blunt proclaimed the law “one of the strongest pieces of pro-life legislation in Missouri history” as he spoke from a cross-shaped lectern during a signing ceremony in the sanctuary of Concord Baptist Church. The governor also was scheduled to promote the legislation in Joplin, Hannibal and suburban St. Louis. Read more...
(h/t Blue Girl, Red State)








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ldzppln @ 1:
Brilliant comment.
Well, there goes the neighborhood.
Not to worry. The political climate is changing. This stupidity won't last.
Missouri's new state motto: "Forward to the next century! 17th century, that is."
In 2005, PBS documented similar laws in Mississippi.
Constantly testing the "undue burden" standard introduced by the Supreme Court in its 1992 Casey ruling, Mississippi has enacted a series of restrictions on access to abortion. Starting with rigid parental consent rules, the state added steep new barriers to abortion access, including requirements that abortion doctors must have admitting privileges at local hospitals. Starting in 2006, facilities performing second and third trimester procedures must meet the same regulatory standards as full surgical hospitals, 36 pages of rules in all. As a result, the entire state of Mississippi, one of the poorest in the nation, now has only a single abortion clinic, the Jacksonboro Women's Health Clinic.
For more details, see:
"The Last Abortion Clinic."
Abortion is NOT murder.
1. A fetus is NOT a child and a fetus is NOT a human being. It is a part of the female's body until it is carried to term and can live outside the human body. Until then, it is medically, little more than a parasite and it is a possession of that woman. If a lung or kidney or even a tonsil is brought out of a human being, it is a living human organism and will die outside the human body eventually. Letting a tonsil die is not murder. Removing a fetus is not murder either.
2. A woman's body is NOT the property of the superstitious dogma of obsolete objective moralists.
3. Life is NOT sacred. Human life is NOT sacred. If it was, hand guns and the death penalty would be illegal. Wars would definitely not be started by slacker conservatives looking for a way to feel macho while having other people shed other people's blood.
4. Human life does not start at conception. Human life starts, individually, as sperm and eggs - gametes which ARE alive, but are disposed of every month through menstrual cycles for females or either nocturnal emissions or masturbation for males. So any boy who has had a wet dream or any girl who has had more than one period is, by the pro-birth definition, a serial killer. Trailer trash likes to pretend human life begins at conception out of convenience for their argument only.
5. When animals don't want their young, they either abandon them or eat them.
Gosh I wonder if atheists will use this to bash anyone who dares to think differently than them?
Man, this country is one fucked up place.
Living on the West Coast, I forget how backward the midwest and south can be. This is a not so gentle reminder.
Good response, Zenrage.
The Truth Hurts @ 8:
Tell me about it.
Christians...what else would you expect?
I just said to my husband: I can't wait until this country falls apart so that we can know which side of the divide to live on. [currently, it's in a progressive bubble, south of the Mason-Dixon line].
Zenrage,
You forgot one, when a miscarriage happens, doesn't that also mean the the would be mother is also a murderer?
Not to beat a dead horse (too late) but does anyone honestly think that a Democrat Governor would have signed this law?
Look I'm sorry but f**k religion. It's like watching a bunch of cave people worship a shiny gold rock. How can you base real life [and death] decisions on mythology and personal delusion? Why are your personal beliefs involved in decisions regarding MY personal health care and my rights as a private citizen?
After all of revelations about Republican dalliances, molestations, and other perversities acted out behind their hypocritical self righteous moralizing and pandering, I'm beginning to believe that the whole male dominated quasi religious anti choice movement is just another misogynistic sexual dominance play. It's another example of sexually repressed insecure white male deviancy masked as moral religious indignation. They not only hate gays, and people of color, they hate women as well. Hateful, mean spirited control freaks with some serious sexual problems. Keep your kids away from these freaks.
Poor white trash better stock up on coathangers all I got to say.
I'm lucky, I make enough to travel the world and can have an abortion just about anywhere I want!
Na na na na na na!!!
CD @ 7:
Because the believers NEVER do that.
God: "Govenor Blunt, would you like an open mind? They're free".
Govenor Blunt: "No thanks, I'm a Baptist".
God: "a what?"
BR,
You would not see this make it past the house floor of most states that are blue.
yeranalyst @ 16:
Agreed.
What a surprise. To illustrate just how serious this law is, I'm not sure I would even recommend challenging it in court. If it gets up to the U.S. Supremes, the notorious K-RATS wing could oh-so-easily use it as the next case to chip away at abortion rights until they are extinguished altogether.
Under current law, it is indeed Constitutional for a state to pass regulations about abortions, as long as they don't place undue burdens on obtaining them. It could be easily argued under precedent that this law places such an undue burden. However, one of the most famous "undue burdens" used to be the bans on the misnamed "partial birth abortions." As we all know, such laws no longer pose undue burdens.
What the Court will do, if it gets its hands on cases like these, is rule again and again that these kinds of restrictions do not place undue burdens on obtaining abortions, until the state of the law is such that abortion is de facto returned to the states. And they'll do it without overruling Roe.
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CD @ 6:
Er, uh....no, I don't think we'll do that. I, however, just might criticize you for your inappropriate implication that all atheists are intolerant.
asshole.
5. When animals don’t want their young, they either abandon them or eat them.
That's probably not the greatest talking point.
"Screw civilization: let's be like wolves! Pass me some grilled baby/fetus!"
#8: So very, very true...and I live in Texas and we are not nearly as
backward or religiously restricted as apparently the people of Missouri
are. What a crock.signing into law a piece of shit that should be wiped
in the face of their Governor...and ALL who support such an aniquated
law. Man, I'd hate to live in Missouri who has now earned the right to
being called the most backward and stupid of ALL States.
I'm seeing a trend here. Repubs, dumb as dog shit. Dems, smarter than dog shitl Weee, I'm a dem.
MargeAggedon @ 18:
After all logic dictates that two wrong makes a right.
Doggiebobo @ 25:
BY THE WAY....AS I RECALL THE MOTO OF MISSOURI IS "THE SHOW ME STATE"
WELL I SAY IT IS THE "BLOW ME STATE"
So much for separation of church and state. Does anyone else see a problem here?
Karen @ 22:
Golly gee no after all no atheist would ever do that.
What is wrong with the American People. How do these nuts get elected...and/or re-elected... I am 69 years old and I have never ever seen such disgusting, frustrating, criminal, unamerican illegal, government behavior in my entire life....Folks we are in a world of crap...my grandchildren have no democracy in their future...
I was a biology major in college, and guess what--humans aren't that special.
The abortion debate aside,, The stats are amazing.
The following is a list of useful abortion statistics as well as some facts on abortifacients. All abortion numbers are derived from pro-abortion sources courtesy of The Alan Guttmacher Institute and Planned Parenthood's Family Planning Perspectives.
In America the Number of abortions per year is: 1.37 Million (1996), and the Number of abortions per day is: Approximately 3,700
Hey, thats a HUGE number 1 million 370 thousand abortions a year.
White women obtain 60% of all abortions.
Women with family incomes less than $15,000 obtain 28.7% of all abortions; Women with family incomes between $15,000 and $29,999 obtain 19.5%; Women with family incomes between $30,000 and $59,999 obtain 38.0%; Women with family incomes over $60,000 obtain 13.8%.
1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest; 6% of abortions occur because of potential health problems regarding either the mother or child, and 93% of all abortions occur for social reasons (i.e. the child is unwanted or inconvenient).
Get that,,,93% of all abortions occur for social reasons (i.e. the child is unwanted or inconvenient).
Good reason for an abortion huh.
Well one thing for sure is this,, If white people keep getting abortions at this rate they will sooner than later become the minority race in the good ole US of K.
Maybe that's the plan.
The following is Pro-life sites
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/feb/060216A.html
http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/pictures.html
I choose life.
Go Ron Paul.
baby jesus did not authorize this
soon they too, like Kentucky will open a creation museum.
humans in/humans out...baby jesus doesn't care.
FTR I think his decision to signt the bill in a Church was in poor taste if nothing else.
Wow....these idiots haven't learned a thing in the past year. This is part of the it. Restrictions. Americans do not want politicians putting restrictions on us.
That and sending us to war.
!2 @ 24:
Hate to say this buddy but, you are one sick puppy.
I would have slight sympathy for people like Blunt if the republicans would open an orphange for every family planning clinic they close.
But no, that might cost a buck, and, we know that republicans are "humane" as long as it dosen't cost anything. Those babies will just have to pull themselves up by their bootstraps! Don't you little bastards come begging around here.
Um forgive me if iam wrong but just where in the bill of rights did it say,,
´´we can revoke your rights being woman folk´´?
wtf is going on over there in my native country? ill tell you what, pure bullshit by rednecks who are so afraid that the mexicans will take away thier jobs and god forbid,, actually be more intelligent.
now this?????????
folks wake up!!!
Does this idiot gov. not remember the new Senator who got elected in Missouri last year because she's pro stem cell research?
god forbid but ain't he the kind of guy that would get his mistress to abort a child so that his wife won't find out?
Right right... worry about the unborn - but once they're here, then what? Send them to die in wars we shouldn't be involved in. Or perhaps if they're 'lucky' - they can become a wage-slave for life.
Prolife - the position of bullshit.
Joe, unless you have a uterus, your opinion doesn't carry much weight with me. That's about as unkind as I get. And just the fact that you bring up "white people", as opposed to the sanctity of life e.g., gives you away.
Joe,
Carefully read what I wrote.
if you ask me,, id say its the souths way at getting even due to the slaves being freed and of course losing the civil war.
any other logic , would tell ppl that, what a woman does is her own bizz, same with a man who wants a vasectomy.
Will this too be outlawed?
Nothing more then tit for tat crap . and i, as a taxpayer from overseas , is getting really sick and tired of seeing my tax dollars go to the idiots in the south,. not the ppl but the so called politicans!
"...Cross shaped lectern..."sounds like a Black Sabbath song title.Ha! There must be something in the ground water up there that makes them so,oh,I don't know...socially and politically retarded.
How they are sandbagging the pro life agenda with this bullshit (let's just rezone/remodel them out of business) is pathetic.
Having been part and parcil to an abortion as a teenager in Texas in the 70's,I can tell you this:neither one of us was prepared to be a parent,and had we been forced to be, the resulting spawn would have suffered as a result.Did I like the choice we made?No.Do I have my regrets?Yes.It was a hard choice to make,but it was the right one.And my son and 2 grand children (produced when I and he were ready to be parents)are proof that choice makes sense and all this right wing religio-prostelizing does not.
Blunt can piss off as far as I'm concerned.
Cross shaped lectern indeed.
On a lighter note: Do you know why baptists never make love standing up?
They're afraid people will think they're dancing.
and,, um didint the USA start fresh from england to make sure it was kept serperate from CHURCH & STATE?!!!
Again, this is the kind of thing that universal health care would prevent--contraceptives for everyone, abortions for those with contraceptive failures, and maybe, just maybe, support for the new parent(s). Like in civilized countries.
Fuck, fucking christians. Athiests may be assholes but at least we aren't stupid. Enough w/ the jesus fairytale dictating policy here.
Friar Tuck @ 47:
Hear! Hear! Friar. Well said!
Religious crackpots are such a hoot.
If men had a womb and could conceive
abortion would be a sacrament of the church.
Another Joe @ 33:
So your whole anti choice stance rests on racism. That is pathetic. I'm sick of white insecure males trying run everybody's lives.
Christo Fascism is thriving in America. Five Roman Catholic Men on the Supreme Court are working on the same agenda as the Vatican and The Far Wrong Wing Christo Fascists.
All those of you who are planning to not support the Democratic Candidate for President in 2008, then don't come on here whining when they new Republican President completes the Christo Fascist take over of the Supreme Court. When they take away all Women's rights over their own bodies, and all Womens' rights to get equal pay for equal work, and when they rollback the progress made by African Americans, and when they make Gays and Lesbians an openly persecuted class of people, and when they grant The Energy Cartel the right to destroy the health of the Planet, then you can comfort yourselves with the knowledge that you sure showed those Democrats by not supporting their Presidential nominee.
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They think Planned Parenthood is trying to profit from teaching safe sex:
Missouri Right to Life, which backed the measure, says groups such as Planned Parenthood have a conflict of interest in supplying materials for sex education courses, because they could potentially make money off female students who later visit their clinics.
My only memory of this armpit of a state is the Mcdonald's employee who served me my food who had cigarette burns covering both her arms. I asked for my mney back. A total shithole.
Indubio @ 50:
and if we all had wings we'd eat nothing but red apples.
Another Joe @ 33:
Personal bias: Without considering whether a foetus' status changes when it can (at least theoretically) live apart from its mother, I think that a foetus at any stage is at least a potential human being. As such, I am uncomfortable with the idea of abortion as contraception.
That said, the US should have the ability to make almost every pregnancy an planned and wanted pregnancy (other than incest/rape, etc.). This would be accomplished by (1) mandatory sex ed in all schools, (2) free condom distribution in all schools and other relevant venues (raves etc.), (3) government funded research for more and better contraceptive treatments (4) govenment funded Norplant injections or other treatment.
Instead, the same party which wants to outlaw abortion also wants to maximixe the likelihood of unwanted pregnancy by keeping children and teens ignorant and by limiting access to safe, effective birth control. Once the inevitable happens (teen pregnancy, single motherhood, etc. - both of which, I believe, have increased under Bush), religious and social conservatives then effectively want to punish the mothers and their children for their immorality.
At its root, this is just one set of the American people attempting to impose its own moral convictions on another set. (For many religious conservatives, allowing others to live a "permissive" lifestyle is, in itself, immoral. In other words, tolerance is immoral).
This is not a divide that can be overcome with reason, only numbers. We need a Democratic President and both houses so we can stack the Supreme Court with justices who have no interest in overturning Roe v. Wade.
I swear, Missouri has gone down hill since the Death of Mel Carnahan.
He was a great man.
Another Joe @ 33:
"Social reasons" are not defined as unwanted or inconvenient. That is a small subset, and it applies mainly to teenage pregnancies and divorcing families. If you check the non-partisan gov't reports, the main reason given is lack of finances. The family can't afford to bring another child into the world. $60,000 may sound like a lot of money to earn but if you already have four children, and there are two adults, you're at the poverty level, which is $10,000/year or less per person.
What do you expect from the governor of a state caled Misery?
Shouldn't the location of signing void the bill?
Blunt looks like a self-righteous prick. Looks like the kind of guy who does it in the shower to keep the sheets clean.
OK: Here is my free gift to the Christo Fascist Wing Nuts.
A free bumper sticker. My gift to you. Go ahead and have them printed and attach them to all your cars. No need to thank me. You are most welcome.
CONTRACEPTION PREVENTS ABORTIONS
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dothehop @ 13:
God is the murderer - because the mother has nothing to do with a spontaneous abortion.
A "potential" human being does not a human being make. Carl Sagan had a wonderful essay in Parade magazine many years ago--when it wasn't written for morons--saying that taken to its logical conclusions, both nocturnal emissions and menstruation destroyed that potential life.
Oh Carl, we miss you so much.
And who the hell said that abortions were for contraception?
MargeAggedon @ 18:
No, just bashing you for incorrect english: you should have written: "...differently from..."
WHO HAS ABORTIONS
Fifty-two percent of U.S. women obtaining abortions are younger than 25: Women aged 20–24 obtain 33% of all abortions, and teenagers obtain 19%.[6]
Black women are almost four times as likely as white women to have an abortion, and Hispanic women are 2.5 times as likely.[7]
Forty-three percent of women obtaining abortions identify themselves as Protestant, and 27% as Catholic.[8]
Two-thirds of all abortions are among never-married women.[9]
Over 60% of abortions are among women who have had one or more children.[10]
The abortion rate among women living below the federal poverty level ($9,570 for a single woman with no children) is more than four times that of women above 300% of the poverty level (44 vs. 10 abortions per 1,000 women).[11]*
On average, women give four reasons for choosing abortion. Three-fourths of women cite concern for or responsibility to other individuals; three-fourths say they cannot afford a child; three-fourths say that having a baby would interfere with work, school or the ability to care for dependents; and half say they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with their husband or partner.[12]
The Guttmacher Institute
hareli @ 60:
He looks like Vitter. The kind of guy who bangs hookers on the side while preaching Puritan morality
BTW the average age of the father of an unwed teenage mother's child is 31.
Now you know why I don't live in Missouri.
Angry One @ 5:
Only one single abortion clinic? Now THAT is an undue burden.
Zenrage @ 6:
I agree. If you eat 200 fisheggs in a mouthful of caviar, are you eating 200 sturgeon or 200 fish eggs?
Somehow most people dont make it that far in their thinking. All this 'human life is sacred" is bullshit from the same rednecks who urged Bush to war.
You're right again. Girls ditch their eggs monthly. They're born with their full complement of them. How does anyone know human life begins at conception? Who died and made them God? It's a tadpole for the first four months. How do these people know when Soul enters the body?
When you look at life from the other end, many people whose constitution is strong can be kept 'alive' on life-support, but they're effectively brain-dead. Gone. The Soul has left its temple. Yeah, sure the body twitches and there are involuntary muscle movements, but that's just the edifice, not the part that made them a sentient being.
I watched my uncle die this way for a month. My aunt felt bad about pulling the plug. He had the heart of a moose, and it ticked like a metronome. But his brain scans were empty. Kaput. Nothing registered on the EKG or whatever it was called. He was outta there. No different than the beginning part of life where little legs inside kick because they're starting their motor functions for life. Nothing enters its edifice before it's built, and that includes Soul.
hadenuf @ 63:
I did. See post 55 above. Not all or necessarily even most or many abortions, mind you, but some abortions are definitely used for contraception.
a guy @ 66:
:-)
Doing this in a church means that the state of Missour considers creating life a religious act, and it might as well, because that makes this law a blatant violation of the first amendment.
Oh. Wait. We dont have rights anymore in this country, just values.
I challenge anyone to watch some of the freaks of nature that the Discovery Health Channel broadcasts and tell me why those mothers didn't abort.
Women don't abort because their clothes don't fit. It's a lot more complicated than "contraception".
Zenrage @ 6:
hareli @ 70:
Archae @ 4:
Like Michael J Fox's "Back to the future",
Missouri = "Ahead to the past."
The Stone Age = way before Fred Flintstone.
Bam Bam to Pebbles.
What does Blunt care?
If you're a rich, white, Republican politician like Matt Blunt (or David Vitter), you can certainly afford to fly your prostitutes (or your daughter) to a state that performs abortions, to avoid any unwelcome attention.
This isn't about "saving lives." It's about destroying poor lives.
And certainly, keeping people in the dark as to what sex is and how it works isn't going to help prevent unnecessary pregnancies.
This guy is a dummkopf.
then: chuch || state
now: || scthautceh ||
These fanatics think that they are so above the laws they want to force the rest of us to live by that they see no conflict of interest in signing legislation using a Christian church as a backdrop.
There are times I miss the easy-going neighborliness of the Midwest. Then stuff like this shocks me back to reality and I'm grateful I made the choice to move to the Pacific Northwest. Now if we could just ship Rev. Ken Hutcherson somewhere else.
I agree, Hadenuf. All this whining and twining for the 'life of the fetus." That's a nine-month construction job. The care and attention and wisdom should go to the 60-90 years the new fetus will spend in his or her tank.
That was my concern when my wife got pregnant. Will I be able to protect and care for and nurture properly this tiny thing that was my sole responsibility along with my wife. Had I discovered the fetus had Tesach disease or some proclivity I couldn't get cured, it would have been a no--brainer. Not because of the heartache to me, the loss to us, but because of the heartache to the child-teenger-adult I was responsible for forming.
You only have to hear a four-year-old boy with full-out cerebral palsy (detected in the womb) say to its mother once "why didnt you let me die" to know that there is profound selfishness in some parents who want to appear as 'good' religious people to others and themselves for not making the tough decision.
Flash @ 68:
I ran away from Denver 35 years ago and moved to Mo for health reasons. Now I wish I had stayed there and died. Even though I was ill, I was at least happy in Colorado - but not here in Mo.
Bob Roberts @ 78:
Stay tuned for Ratzinger, Bob. He's just called the Protestant churches phoneys, brought back the latin mass. He may have a new view on this topic any day now. :-)
Yeah that is how laws are made. You get enough jerk offs to agree with your point of view and it goes on the books. Must mean that there is a whole state full of jerk offs there electing other jerk offs to put these laws on the books for them. The same people who marry cousins and chase sheep in their spare time. Oh but they are good christians and go to church regularly. When is religion going to end please. Humans don't seem to know how to use it even with an operators manual (bible).
BTW, if abortion is murder, then miscarriages are murder too.
Let's start charging mothers who miscarry with murder. How do we know the 1/3 of pregnancies that end in miscarriage didn't happen on purpose?
And what about pregnant mothers who smoke? They could cause the unnecessary death of their foetus. If they miscarry, shouldn't they be murderers?
And what about fathers who drank or smoked when the embryo was conceived? If that embryo is miscarried, then obviously they are to blame. They should be tried for murder.
And what about male masturbation? You men are destroying potential human beings! We need cameras in showers to prevent more murders!!!
You people are idiots. There are born children starving to death, dying in emergency rooms from a bad healthcare system, being gunned down every day thanks to our lack of gun control, being killed slowly by poverty and discrimination, dying from lack of attention, from a corrupt justice system, from our own military who counts them as "collateral damage"...Millions upon millions upon millions. And you're concerned with a clump of cells with a chance of turning into a human being. Wake up.
33 Another Joe: It's extremely convenient for the women of the species to bear the children for the entire race.
If you've ever had sex ONE TIME and not been willing to become pregnant and raise the child yourself, then you're a flaming hypocrite. U are anyway!
im sorry, but eff the populace in mo....they elected this asshat, and the asshats that sit in their statehouse
if the women of this country wish to sit back while their rights are taken away, more power to them
who wants to bet that this asshat gov is getting some on the side
And another thing--life started a long time ago, and it's not likely to end unless we humans kill ourselves off by our own stupidity, i.e., polluting the environment till we die from it.
Hey! Thanks for the link! I'm late to the party, but I titled my post "1735 Here we Come!" because that is the year of the first French settlement at St. Genevieve - and that's where I feel this fuckwit is trying to take us.
Fortunately, I was not the only woman in this state to get my rage on over this crap. My cohort, compatriot and partner in thought crime on the other side of the state is the Angry Black Bitch, and she and I are joining forces to take citizen action.
She is developing a program and we are taking it to the streets to directly get the information to women at risk.
Anyone who is in a position to help out can go to my site and make a donation at the tip jar - just send me an email and tell me it's for this cause and not because you just love my blog! We are dangerous women - we have brains and we are pissed. A bad combination. Especially when we have his ass flanked.
I will also put a shameless plug in for the Democratic Attorney General of our state, Jay Nixon, who is challenging Matt Blunt for the mansion that Matt doesn't live in anyway because his wife "doesn't like it" so he has a six-Suburban convoy that travels 280 miles evey day to Jeff City, and dumps a ton of CO2 in the air. Every day. (I did the math.) the Pubbies have more money - anyone who can give a couple of bucks to Nixon for Governor - it would be greatly appreciated and put to good use. (I am not affiliated with the Nixon campaign, other than a donation and a bumper sticker. Until now, that is.)
We are here, and damn if we don't have some top-shelf Democrats - but we need your help, because the money is on their side in the major metro areas, and that is the battleground.
Thanks for all the overwhelming and appropriately placed disgust at the appalling state of our state.
B.G (& A.B.B., too!)
Has that church still got its tax exempt status? Someone better check.
uncle joe mccarthy @ 89:
A lot of us are still pissed at John Kerry for pulling out of the state and writing us off with nearly a month to go. That fucked us over. Hard. We got Matt Blunt as a result - the way the numbers came in, we would have Governor Claire McCaskill (and possibly a 50/50 Senate, so maybe on balance...).
In the Missouri 6th, the beloved former mayor of KC is challenging Sam Graves (brother of the "ninth" fired U.S. Attorney) and she can win.
All we need is a shot at running the show...We are not our parents democratic party. We are our Grandparent Democratic Party. We have the savvy - we need the bucks.
Now we can sit back and watch the number of unwanted pregnancies rise in Missouri. Hope this shows ya, Missouri.
Please don't confuse the incompetent, corrupt Blunt administration with "the people of Missouri." Yes, when I moved here several years ago from a progressive city on the east coast, i knew I'd have to work a little harder to seek out the like-minded. I had heard about Blunt, but had no idea how horrible he really is until I moved here. He's very unpopular, and has little chance of being reelected, but he does have his wing-nut followers who live in his alternate universe and give him plenty of $$$. Many of us here fight against him by giving to Planned Parenthood, volunteering for them, and working toward ways to turn around the damage he has done to this state. We defeated Jim Talent in 2006, getting Claire McCaskill into the senate. And this is the state that elected a dead Mel Carnahan over John Ashcroft in 2000, so there's hope.
I pray to the Heavenly Father above that his name comes up on the madam's list.
It would be of no surprise.
CD @ 7:
WTF??!!
From a cross-shaped lectern, eh? Rather Blunt of this asshat, eh?
This is how the Republicains roll in Florida
http://www.local6.com/news/13664897/detail.html
Salmineo:
Ahem. From Thomas Paine's The Age of Reason -- my favorite book of all time:
Soon after I had published the pamphlet COMMON SENSE, in America, I
saw the exceeding probability that a revolution in the system of
government would be followed by a revolution in the system of
religion. The adulterous connection of church and state, wherever it
had taken place, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, had so
effectually prohibited, by pains and penalties, every discussion upon
established creeds, and upon first principles of religion, that until
the system of government should be changed, those subjects could not
be brought fairly and openly before the world; but that whenever this
should be done, a revolution in the system of religion would follow.
Human inventions and priest-craft would be detected; and man would
return to the pure, unmixed, and unadulterated belief of one God, and
no more.
Over the past 10,000 years, various freethinkers, Deists, agnostics, skeptics, atheists, antitheists, Subgenii and other otherwise sensible people have predicted the demise of religion, simply because they were naive enough to think that reason would ever triumph over raw, galloping, dumb-ass human nature.
CD: Gosh I wonder if atheists will use this to bash anyone who dares to think differently than them?
Would you consider honest, forthright, probing questions to be "bashing"? What if they were all asked within an implied cosmology of reason and testability?
The worst thing I have to say about most of the Christians I've met face-to-face is that, if the environment allowed for deep questions to be asked, the answers inevitably were deeply unsatisfying. Is that my fault? Am I supposed to find Jesus by lowering my standards of what's real and what makes sense? Is this "bashing"?
Another Joe @ 33:
Choose it all you want, Joe. Just don't tell me my choices. It's none of your business.
CD @ 27:
Works both ways is all I'm saying.
[...] than anything, though, we are a nation that has allowed itself to be defined by the fringe. And if we want to be able to define ourselves in terms that don’t make us retch, then we [...]
Bingo @ 49:
Atheists are NOT assholes.
HUMANS are assholes!
And for the most part dumber than dogshit.
What does America stand for?
Arrogant
Moronic
Egotistical
Retarded
Ignorant
Conservative
Arseholes
what a bunch of fucking freaks...
adding to the myth of the flyover state(s)... go figure
Blunt trauma.
93% of all abortions occur for social reasons (i.e. the child is unwanted or inconvenient.
The number one reason should be "For reasons that are none of your damn business."
Oh, and isn't Ron Paul a "libertarian"? And if that's really the case, he'd be pro-choice, right?
So much for consistency.
And, if anyone cares, this clown can try to use his religion as an excuse for this, but we all know this isn't about religion. It's about power. Who has it, and who gets to use it. And who gets victimized by it. By claiming his religion tells him this is right, and by using a church as a cover, this man is, amongst other things, "bearing false witness."
In my religion, that's considered a sin.
Thank you for an honest headline that says "anti-choice". I'm getting weary of complaining when liberal blogs use right wing language, this is refreshing that you didn't.
Good for MO. I wish we could get that passed in my state.
What a steaming load from a "religious" phony and hypocrite. The net effect of this will actually be hasten the demise of these simpletons. Quaker Dave is right, this is about power--not spirituality--of which this is a seriously perverted and arrogant form. And how these psychotic whackjobs are eventually going to lose their sorry ass next year.
the rapture bunnies preach less government but won't let women make their own medical choices. Southern Baptist Sharia part 25355323124
Ryan @ 111:
Spoken like a misogynist with outdoor plumbing. Grow a uterus, and I might consider your opinion. (But not likely.)
Better yet, come volunteer a few shifts with me in a public health clinic, where I actually render care to those kids you demand be born, but don't want to fund services for. Hold their little arms while I puncture their veins to draw blood to test for lead because they live in substandard housing.
better yet, STFU. Just because you have freedom of speech doesn't mean you have anything to say worth hearing.
CD @ 7:
Go ahead and pretend you're a victim all you want. You're the one believing in crackpot deities, not us. Atheists will always be more ethical than you.
I guess it doesn't dawn on these fundie GOPs that not all people are narrow minded baptists, nor do we all believe that a blastocyte is a life. I sure as hell don't.
So nice of him to push women's health issues back into the dark ages.
Salmineo @ 10:
I live in this backwards state and I totally agree that what Blunt did was utterly idiotic. However, I believe the west coast has their share of backward thinking right wingers who believe the same way Blunt does. Not everyone from the midwest and south are sister fucking, truck driving, toothless hillbillys.
Yeah, so much for separation of church and state.
Guys like this are clearly going for a symbolic "screw you" to the whole principle.
Let's hope Margaret Atwood wasn't too prophetic with The Handmaid's Tale.
Blunt is an ass and has been putting his signature on a lot of stupid stuff in the last few weeks.
Robert S. @ 118:
When are these religious freaks going to realize that in order to establish freedom of religion, one must fight establish freedom from religion.
that's first, not fight. I hate not getting enough sleep.
Ass backwards ... Kompassionate Konservative Kristians . . .
As a former Missourian, now living in the Pacific NW. I knew nothing good would come from Blunt becoming Governor. Similarly to Bush becoming Pres. Missouri and the country as a whole lost a great one when Mel Carnahan passed. Unfortunatly both state and country have suffered since. Both going the way of the Repugs. Which sent both back to the dark ages. I wish Red State Blue Girl and A.B.B. all the luck. In righting this wrong. Blunt is definitely a chip off the old block. His daddy is Roy Blunt, U.S. House Minority Whip. Blunt definitely has name recgonition and Republican money behind him.
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"When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."
Sinclair Lewis quotes (American Writer, 1885-1951)
Heil Bu$h
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since the governor call this one of his most pro life laws ever made, that means that the pro life law will provide single payer free health care for all of the people in Missouri, there would be more money going to social program to help the poor and single mothers, and he would demand that the Missouri national guard comes home from Iraq, the death penalty would be abolished in that state, gays will be able to married and rescue those foster babies/kids, and bring them home.
Hey everyone,
Look on the bright side. At least clothes hanger sales will go up in Missouri!
Chalk up one more for the coat hanger lobby . . .
Karen @ 22:
CD has a habit of grouping ALL atheists together in a bunch like that Karen. He did it constantly at a message board he was banned from not long ago and on top of that he's a homophobe as well.
Bob Roberts @ 72:
i see... so for you, having a metal instrument shoved up inside your body to scrape out tissue is an experience equitable to wearing a condom during intercourse?... Do you believe that it's just as convenient and safe a procedure resulting in no physical or psychological trauma? You must believe that the decision to undergo such a procedure is as spontaneous and inconsequential an act as inserting an IUD.
btw... back to commenting on the subject... it looks like it's time to vote that dipshit out when his term is up... hopefully the superstitious hayseeds are outnumbered at the booth.
Is there anything in Missouri? It strikes me as a bible-thumper wasteland. But that describes most of the central and southern US, doesn't it? Why would anyone live there?
116 Zardoz9000 Says: "Not everyone from the midwest and south are sister fucking, truck driving, toothless hillbillys."
But most are, right?
So pro lifers just f*^#k women who need help ...
Young women who are scared and upset the hell with them right ...
Just spit in there face....
Pro life what life you pigs have made for Our women ....
thanks for the life you made.................................................................
for women who need help
This makes sense for the gop ... It keeps a steady supply of inbreds for the party. . .
Most of the people who came to this continent did so to get away from royalty. They were tired of being serfs and laborers for no pay. They did not have a lot of money or possessions. Later on after the place was partly settled some of the rich pricks came over too. They like having serfs for no wages. Because there weren't any they imported slaves. A lot of them settled in the south. It takes a certain mentality to want to own a human or not pay them for their effort. For a while they were called southern democrats but switched over and took the republican party. This is who we have today. They do not believe the masses have any rights or freedoms. Their ideas of how things are run or what is legal are all that counts. This is not surprising because they did the same thing for many generations in Europe. It is a way of life for them. The part that amazes me is the number of willing serfs that they have and the thing the serfs use to justify this serfdom is religion. Wake the hell up serfs. Do they invite you to their homes or their country clubs?Do you get any of the pie? No but you get a lot of bible salesman. Why would you want to live like this when all you have is a fear of going to hell.
Edwin @ 130:
The main thing going for it is Missouri Botanical Garden. But that's awfully close to Illinois...
Living in Missouri, the real surprise is that our Boy Wonder Governor did not sign the legislation in the St. Louis Catholic Cathedral.
Oh, yea, I forgot that he has a tough reeelection next year and that he has to appeal to the yahoo base in rural Missouri. A broad cross section of Catholics in St. Louis think that the position of the Bishop and their church on most issues is BS.
Despite all evidence to the contrary, there are progressives in Missouri who are attempting to keep the flame of freedom, justice, equality, and common sense alive. As Norman Mailer said almost 40 years ago:
Put your fingers in a V for victory and give a wink. We yet may win, the others are so stupid. Heaven help us when we do.
"Get that,,,93% of all abortions occur for social reasons (i.e. the child is unwanted or inconvenient).
Good reason for an abortion huh."
Yes, it is.
Any guy who wants to take women's reproductive rights away, is a pussy! Men would never think twice if they were able to get pregnant about having to get an abortion. These people are so fucking dumb. It's one thing to be against it personally, that's what choice is, but it's another to make it illegal. What's next, burkas?
What gets me is that by dening Abortion providers from teaching birth control, they are just insuring an increase in the number of abortions.
I just cannot get my head around the idea of signing law in a church! Outrageous.
I believe that 1) if you have a penis, you have no say in whether or not a woman has a choice in this matter, and 2) if you have not adopted as many children as you can afford, you have no say in whether or not a woman has a choice in this matter.
The Christian Taliban is alive and well in the USA.
The Republican mantra...
Love the fetus, blastocyst, collection of cells...hate the child!
Once you're born...you're on your own!
Separation of Church & State...
Republican morons...GOD is not in the constitution...AND THAT IS BY DESIGN!!!!!
klunk @ 129:
Nope. Never said or wrote anything you've just accused me of. I know d&cs are incredibily unpleasant experiences. I just chose to let people know in my first post (#56) what my bias was before I gave my opinion. You should perhaps read that post before you assume we're on opposite sides.
I did say that some abortions are used as a means of brith control. Sure using a condom or Norplant or an IUD would be safer and more pleasant. That does not mean that some women (for a number of different reasons) neglect birth control until too late and then get abortions. There are records of women having multiple abortions rather than use other forms of contraception.
Since it looks like I have to spell it out for you, while I am not comfortable with the idea of abortion, I am pro-choice.
yeranalyst @ 52:
Of course its based on racism. Thats why Ghouliani is for abortion. Its eugenics.
Seems like Repugs should be signing laws in brothels.
Straight or gay, it's all good people!
CD @ 7:
Gosh, I wonder if Christians will use this to make the lives of women who don't agree with them miserable.
Jackass.
Zenrage @ 6:
OMG, I'm a mass murderer!
Hope them folks at Nuremburg or the World's Court don't hear of this.
CD @ 7:
Gee and I wonder if christian nut jobs like that Governor of the Great Sister Humping state of Missouri want atheists to foist their beliefs on christians??
Or is it a one-way street??
Should we sign legislation in the local Mosque>??
Or is it only christianity that is state sanctioned?
And if so Is it just baptist christianity or does catholicism and othere sects count?
I pray for real biblical persecution for all these right-wing bastards!
kulshan @ 147:
Definitely not Unitarians or Mormons. Repugs are pissing themselves at the thought that a Mormon is running for president, and then say it's the Democrats that are afraid.
Missouri Governor Signs Anti-Choice Bill From Sanctuary Of Baptist Church
Gov. Matt Blunt signed legislation Friday placing more abortion clinics under government oversight by classifying them as ambulatory surgical centers. Planned Parenthood claimed the law, HB 1055, could force it to spend up to $2 million to remodel one ...
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