Harriet Miers Snubs Congressional Subpoena For A Second Time
Via The Raw Story:
Former White House Counsel Harriet Miers has again rejected calls from the House Judiciary Committee to comply with a subpoena for her testimony on the firing of 9 US Attorneys in 2006 and 2007. The Committee had set a deadline of 5 PM for Miers to explain how she would comply with the subpoena.
"In light of the continuing directives to Ms. Miers and as previously indicated to your Committee, I must respectfully inform you that, directed as she has been to honor the Executive privileges and immunities asserted in this matter, Ms. Miers will not appear before the Committee or otherwise produce documents or provide testimony as set forth in the Committee's subpoena," wrote Miers' attorney, George Manning, in a letter delivered Tuesday to Rep. John Conyers (D-MI), Chairman of the Judiciary Committee. Read more...
Will Congress do the right thing and hold Miers in Contempt of Congress or, better yet, will they charge her with Inherent Contempt and frog march her straight to trial?
My bet is that the Dems will decide to set another 'firm' deadline for her to appear.
congress will "do nothing"
You can go here and find the phone numbers you need to urge Congress to frog-march this toad into an Inherent Contempt session of the House.
Nothing less is acceptable.
The problem with the Inherent Contempt move is it would backfire on the Democrats. It would turn the Woman into a sympathy figure, and make the Democrats look like bullies. Never overplay the hand.
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In another eppisode of Bushs band of bastards and now its including bitches,, yet another so called ´´american´´ thumbs thier nose at the justice system and is blocked by high ranking ubber rich and corrupt officals that will probably in the end, kill thier golden egg befour it can hatch and leak any secrets.
Folks there is nothing i put past this admin. nothing.
Will Congress do the right thing and hold Miers in Contempt of Congress or, better yet, will they charge her with Inherent Contempt and frog march her straight to trial?
That would be some great Theatre. God, if they would only grow some spines. We can always hope, but I'm not holding my breath.
seamus @ 4:
Who would have sympathy for Harriet Miers other than Jesus?
improper @ 7:
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the mormons!! look out here commeth Mitt the man with the 300 dollar pancake make up FX!
If Pelosi and her fellow creatures don't charge this awful person with the contempt (inherent would be nice), then the jig is up! The Dems truly are wastes of space.
I like the Inherit Contempt option, but I doubt the Democratic representatives in Congress have the guts.
seamus @ 4:
Overplay the hand? Please. Enough is enough. We all know the Supremes would let her go, Inherent Contempt is fully within their rights. The right wing can cry about it all they want, but we all know they have no respect for checks and balances.
improper @ 7:
Condasleeza maybe
I am not a legal scholar. What would happen to me, average Jane, if I refused a subpoena to appear before a Congressional committee?
Whatever it is, triple the punishment (or more ) for Ms. Miers, because she knows better...being good enough to be on the Supreme Court, and all.
For a person that was nominated for the Supreme Court, to have her flout the law like this is criminal. Send over the Sargent at Arms and have a trial in the House of Reps. Inherrent Contempt. Throw her in jail.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxJC4_ZHSsU
Harriet Miers is the Crypt Keeper!!!
Bollox Ref @ 9:
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i agree!! while there are some saying impeachment will only hurt the moral of the country( think ford , born again ) and will only result in tax payers money being wasted( think Iraq war and the corruption) there are few out there like you and myself and others, that will simply say, ´´wtf can get anyworse then what we have now´´? You have a president that rewrites laws to suit his illegal dealings in the whitehouse, you have a goverment that cares not what it can for you only what you can do them! YOU,, tax payer have a obligtation to say,, ENOUGH and demand the same style and grrrr that ken star did to clinton over?,,,,,,,,,,oh yeah,, a BJ!!!!! a bj that didint cost the lives of over 3.500 americans and over ?? many lifes in iraq?
ITMFA!!!!!!!
What blows me away, is that Bush thought that Harriet Miers could be a supreme court justice. If the Dems didn't filibuster, we would have someone with this staggering level of disrespect for government and the law in the supreme court. Amazing.
Bush will commute her sentence and that will be that!
4 seamus Says:
"The problem with the Inherent Contempt move is it would backfire on the Democrats. It would turn the Woman into a sympathy figure, and make the Democrats look like bullies. Never overplay the hand."
so what!! i guess you don't have any sympathy for the troops. it's time to whittle this administration down to size, at least to make them responsible for their unlawful actions.
i don't want to have bush impeached until cheney is impeached. we can't risk getting rid of the village idiot and making darth vader the face of the nation.
as for miers, she should have the book thrown at her. she's not a pansy--she's a white house counsel and supreme court nominee. for shame.
Bush would commute harriets hemoroids if it meant his little golden goose kept her mouth shut.
And like a good sniveling "§$%&/ she is,, thats whats going to happen . DEMS READING these blogs, and we know you are out there,, yes you the dems running for office. SHOW SOME BALLS, or get off the field and let another player on.
With all due respect, this is a waste of space and time talking about something like this. Get back to the Iraq issue 24/7 and that the Dems in Congress need to force the troops home -- all the USA troops home -- now!!!
I want Congress to focus on this 24/7.
This Harriet Miers things should not be addressed at the Kos Convention, just Iraq, end the War!
and to think this ´´lady´´ actually passed the bar exam and was hired a lawyer, stikes me both as odd and quite troubling.
where did she get her licence to practice? from a box of DECIDER TOASTED FLAKES?
seamus @ 4:
This is exactly the kind of attitude that gets us stuck with a do-nothing-Congress. They are afraid the republicans will make them look like boogey-men for standing up for us so instead they wimp out on everything and look like simpering fools instead. Well it's about time they stood up and declared themselves not mice and not afraid of the republican tongue lashing and do the job we elected them to do, Dammit
Is the VP capable of handing out pardons of commutes, if he has to act as a sudden fill in?
And nobody understands why firing a bunch of US Attorneys or Harriet Miers subpona is a big deal. The Democrats are stupid to focus on this. It's time to get smart. Focus on ending Iraq War -- if more all-nighters in the Senate are needed, just do it.
It should be obvious to ALL Congressional members that your "gig" is up with the American people. Do what needs to be done. Inherent contempt sounds like a good beginning...
March her ass down to the floor of congress. If the Repugs were in majority and there was a Democrat President they would be screaming from the roof tops on how we are a nation fo laws and no one, not even the president is above the law. That is of course until they (Repugs) control the WH then you can shit all over everyone and everything even the rule of law. I mean who gives a shit? It's just a god dammned piece of paper.
Sergeant of arms!!!
What better image of the corruption of the Bush administration than the parade of frog-marchers?
We need some justice here, folks.
When the Replicans spent $50 million investigating Clinton and came up with nothing but a lie about a blowjob, the PRESIDENT had to testify.
Why can't we at least get the Vice President,
the president's political advisor,
the president's legal advisor,
the vice president's advisor,
the vice president's caterer,
ANYBODY to testify???
This is frigging ridiculous. This isn't about a blow job, this is about national security, political corruption, treason, etc.!!!!
When are they gonna lock this Bitch up?
I'm tired of this shit.
Griz @ 22:
Hey, Griz...chill out, dude. Take it easy. Have a little vino...
Your cheerleading is starting get annoying. We all know about Kos and the convention. No need to keep harping about it.
start a new party! that will see the current members of both go slack jawed. Sadly however there are many that wish to retain a glimmer of hope in thier party to set the record straight, even out the odd, and make things run smoothly again.
America is past that now. Its time for a new set standard. Not where oil and drug companys drive millions into poverty or where lobbyist reak in the profits at the cost of you, her, him, them, those , us and myself.
Is the VP capable of handing out pardons of commutes, if he has to act as a sudden fill in?
yes, the chain of command is pres, vp , speaker of the house
I don't think the Repubs would waste their time with something as silly and minor as this. The Democrats need to get smart, and fast, or we'll lose Congress back to the GOP.
The only winning hand for the Democrats is focus on ending the War in Iraq, getting us out of Iraq, like, yesterday.
this is so insane.
put her in jail
forgot to mention, that is as each becomes president as to one above is removed from office
dadams @ 33:
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danke for your comment. I wasint sure.
Navy Vet, I disagree, the Kos Convention should be the biggest thing be pushed right now. We need all Congress people to attend and participate and join in ending the Iraq War. Not, waste their time with something Americans don't understand, like Harriet Miers and a bunch of US Attorneys in the Justice Department who serve at the will of the President anyway.
That picture. Those eyes.
My God She is a Demon fro HELL!!
Friar Tuck, we don't need a new party if the Democrats would quit acting like a bunch of losers, and get tough on Bush and get us out of Iraq. No one cares about Harriet Miers.
If the Dems had a spine, they'd find her in Contempt. But that remains to be seen at this point.
Btw, Mr. Prez. If this woman has nothin' to hide, why are you stoppin' her from testifyin'? What are ya, blackmailin' her or somthin'? Both of ya are little pansy ass bitches to me, and so is the Congress if they don't do anythin' 'bout this.
The Champ is out.
Wanna bet congress rolls over like puppy again?
Loyalist Robustous @ 39:
Those are REPTILE's eyes . . .
Could any of us on this board ignore a congressional supeana and not suffer the consequences?
She can choose to be loyal to the president over the constitution and the american people... and suffer the consequences.
Disbarr the old Bush ass-licker and and throw her ass in jail
Griz @ 26:
Enough, Griz my man. You are seriously in need of some tranqs, my friend. It's all evidence...not just the body (the war) but the DNA (the attorney firings), the hairs (the wiretapping), the broken glass (the lack of WMDs), as well as the weapon (the Miers subpoena). You need it all to convict, my man!
Isn't it just like these chickenhawks to hide behind a skirt?
Congress will do squat on Harriet Miers. We need to withhold support from ANY Congressman or Congresswoman who doesn't actuvely get Bush to bring the troops home from Iraq now. Only after that, can we address things like Harriet Miers.
Why not just get their numbers from Hustler magazine?
Griz @ 38:
And that says just how much you don't know about the USA scandal. Instead of ignoring all these other scandals, why not put your energy into explaining them to the public, then? Or are you just a one-trick pony?
Navy vet, firing US attorneys is absoultely no big deal. Clinton fired a bunch of US Attorney, even more than Bush, so that's no big deal. But getting us out of Iraq is the only BIG DEAL which will help the Democrats win again, like in the last elections.
Enough already! Let the March of the Frogs begin! Miers can lead the parade, and li'l Ms Taylor can follow. Once those canaries start to serenade the Committees a whole chorus of criminals and creeps ought to be croaking their ways to the hoosegow. It is unconstitutional for Pelosi to 'take impeachment off the table!' That is the ONLY business essential to our government at this time. Iraq will end when funding ceases. These murderous thugs must be prosecuted.
http://www.enigmaticparadox.com/images/LieSept23.gif
Horst, if the Democrats can't get us out of Iraq by simply stopping the funding, which they NOW have the power to do, what good are they???
Let the march of the frogs begin.
Griz @ 50:
Excuse me, but you really are showing how uninformed you are about USAGate. The scandal isn't that they were fired; it's that they were kicked out for their lack of political loyalty, and that the AG, Mr. Abu Gonzo hisowndamnself was involved, but lied to Congress about it.
It's no good bringing the troops back home if they come back to a nation run by the fascists.
Budgeting Options In Light of Miers Refusal To Appear
Program managers working under the President's budget will have to make some choices. Under their control are various documents showing how the AT&T and various US government intermediaries cooperated to provide allegedly illegal support for domestic surveillance.
Once Congress cuts the funding from the bill, the GOP has the obligation to pass an Amendment to add money back. They will be hard pressed to get 60 votes needed to add any money. Even if the President vetoes the bill, he still gets nothing.
Miers refusal to cooperate may have serious consequences for civilian personnel and contractors. Under the US government, the civilianization process means that many people outside US government need to be concerned when there is talk of contract termination and potential termination liabilities.
On the table are the Descriptive Summaries, budgeting documents the Congressional Staff counsels well know, as do the program managers. The authority of Congress is to put zeroes within those budgeting documents.
If program managers would like to have their program protected, they need to provide the information this President has illgegally withheld. Those program managers who cooperate may have less to worry about when it comes to deobligation, and defunding.
Program Mangers Impact Statements
It would be appropriate for the blogosphere to remind Senators that as these funding cuts are proposed, the program managers working with the President's staff may be inclined to suggest that program cuts are "unacceptable." Those were issues which, until now, do not appear to be well supported.
The problem with these funding cuts is the program managers will have to explain why the various "critical thresholds" are valid; and why the "forcasted degradation rates" should be believed. Members of Congress are free to work with the IGs to review the misleading information that the various intelligence and law enforcement communities report are "widespread" and "misleading" statements about real budgeting impacts.
Time for the President and program managers to choose: How much money do you want to lose in the face of the continued defiance of Congress? On the table are the descriptives summary budget revisions to zero; program managers have made misleading statements; and Miers continues not to respond to Congress. There is little choice but to issue contempt citations, cut the budgets, and force the program managers to explain why the impact statements as presented have been overstated.
What You Can Do
Call your Members of Congress and encourage them to continue deobligations, defunding, and getting the program managers to resubmit their impact statements. The descriptive summaries need to be reworked. And the potential termination liabilities need to be correctly budgeted for the real termination costs. Those need to be reviewed: On the table are real budget cuts and real civilian-contract firings/layoffs because Miers has refused to cooperate; and the President has substantially not complied with his legal obligations.
Call the Senators Toll Free To support the following along all programs:
- Deobligations
- Descriptive summary markups
- Contract terminations
- Defunding
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And Navy Vet, I AM getting impatient with the Democrats. Why can't they just stop the funding of Iraq, and, then, after that, they can fool around with things like Harriet Miers and US Attorneys.
Voters WANT the Democrats to end Iraq involvement, and, end our involvement in the entire Middle East, NOW. Voters don't care about Harriet Miers.
Disbar her. Strip her of her license to practice law.
Former SC nominee. What a joke. She's a toady, corrupt to the core. How dare she defy the rules we all must live by.
Boy, poor old Clinton REALLY missed the boat on this whole executive priviledge thing. If executive priviledge applies to anything and everything to do with anything and everything the President has ever done, or will do, and anybody and everybody who's ever been associated with him, he could have easily nixed the Whitewater/Lewinsky thing, and saved himself an impeachment.
(Uh...or maybe not? Considering that a REPUBLICAN Congress wouldn't have taken an obvious abuse of power like that lying down. Lets see if the Democrats will grow a spine on this one. Sadly, if their treatment of Cheney as the new fourth branch of government is any indication of what is going to happen, I don't think they'll hold her in contempt.)
If Bush wants to force a Supreme Court ruling on this, given that he's stacked the Supreme Court with wingnuts, LET HIM. But, contrary to what people have been saying, I really don't think he wants to do that, and neither do his cronies. They would not want to hand Hilary Clinton and Barack Obama THAT kind of imperial power, since they're up next.
[thanks for your concern, let's get back on topic.]
I swear Al Capone would be so damn pround of what the current whitehouse is like.
lawyers and judges in thier pockets. Killing endless ppl in a war delcared on oil, and its legaly ok to get away with it.
Funel funds from The USA to Iraq and a whole cargo plane (roughly) of 270 million dollars, dissapears?
Contracters, hired on the spot due to what company they work for? never mind there was other bids.
and Blackwater ( capos) running the show for shake down money/protection?
RICO!!!
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sup_01_18_10_I_20_9...
http://www.gambling-law-us.com/Federal-Laws/rico.htm
http://www.ricoact.com/
ANY MORE ???
Lil Bush says, "I wipe my ass with the Constitution. What you goin' to do about it?"
I don't give a rat's ass how it would play to charge Miers with Inherent Contempt. I care about the rule of law. I care about the Constitution of the United States of America. GOPers vomit a fucking gorilla when someone burns a flag, but they have no problem wiping their collective asses with the Constitution and then tossing it into the fireplace.
They should buy a fresh box of pens tomorrow and write up over 1/2 the White House and Justice Department for Inheent Contempt and then Impeach Cheney and his puppet.
Senators, please grow a spine and do the right thing.
Griz @ 50:
Wrong. Presidents switch out attorneys at the beginning of their terms, they don't switch them midstream.
These attorneys were already serving at Bush's pleasure. They were just poking their noses into dangerous places, like the Cunningham bribery case.
If you pull the loose string, you will unravel the sweater.
Jason Wolfe @ 17:
The Dems didn't filibuster Miers, the Repugs rejected her! The wingers forced Bush to withdrawl the nomination.
Griz @ 57:
Voters better care about the Miers thing, and other issues BESIDES the Iraq debacle, if you and they want to have a viable democracy left. I don't like how the Democratic leadership has handled a lot of things these past few months, but I don't want them to give up on ANY lead or angle to bring down this Neo-con experiment.
Straight Shooter @ 58:
Make all the laws you want. Don't mean squat to a republican. I hear they are even getting ready to pardon Randy Cunningham. Laws only keep honest people in line.
RICO!!!
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/us.....20_96.html
http://www.gambling-law-us.com.....s/rico.htm
http://www.ricoact.com/
ANY MORE ???
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gee, smells like now!
I had to laugh when I saw that photo of Miers. It remined me of that guy who claims there is a reptilian conspiracy taking over the earth, because she is very lizardly-looking.
Congress will cut a deal with her lawyers. Expect nothing more; nothing less from these shameless bums.
Straight shooter, why disbar Harriet Miers? Clinton wis disbarred. Big Deal. The ONLY thing that will count is if the newly elected Democrat Congress brings all our troops home right now, by stopping the War funding in this Phony War on Terror (propping up the Bush administration) right now.
GrizHorst, if the Democrats can’t get us out of Iraq by simply stopping the funding, which they NOW have the power to do, what good are they???
True Griz, they can't do much at this time. With the obstruction by the Wingnuts, the're in a tough spot.
Even if the managed to pass a Bill(seems to be any Bill) it would be Vetoed bt the Chimp.
/tough spot
God. She looks like living dead.
What's her problem ?
Here's what ya do harry.
When they asks you a question ;
You answer with either :
" I don't remember "
" I don recall "
" I have no knoledge of that "
Then ya go home and masturbate . . .
Miers refusal to cooperate sparks budget backlash against President: Contract Terminations.
We the People know how to lawfully deny funding to the President through contract terminations, defunding, and descriptive summary markups. The entire President's budget is under assault. All cabinet officers' budgets are under review. Link discusses how this is done, what you can do, and information to share with your friends.
The President has assaulted the wrong civilian population.
Griz #53
What good are they (the Dems)? Back in the hinter lands, down on the farm, an oft used expression seems appropriate: "As much good at tits on a boar." Crude, but direct and true.
BTW, Griz, you think if they had nothing to hide, they'd be facing Contempt charges?
You think if they had nothing to hide, Libby wouldn't have been sacrificed then pardoned?
A pattern of deceit, obstruction of justice and contempt of court would lead one to believe they might have something pretty illegal to hide.
Say, something bigger than a blowjob.
RICO!!!
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/us.....20_96.html
http://www.gambling-law-us.com.....s/rico.htm
http://www.ricoact.com/
ANY MORE ???
and thats about all i can comment about it.
I mean john gotti got in the end,, sammy the bull too.
and as we look at miers,, she reminds me of ´´growing up bush´´
or,, ´´How i suck ass to become one for a the misterass´´!
Will Congress do the right thing and hold Miers in Contempt of Congress or, better yet, will they charge her with Inherent Contempt and frog march her straight to trial?
Probably, I mean she is an underling.
And we all know for a fact that they're not going to touch Bush or Cheney on the Iraq war.
Since, when it looked politically advantageous for them, they all voted for it.
The Jellyfish party will do absolutely nothing but write letters and fervently hope that if a Democrat makes it to the Oval Office in '09 the Republicans don't get too upset.
Same coin just a different side.
Ok Congress, what part of "Get Fucked" don't you understand? Do you have the balls to call these goons or is it another round of "you better comply---this is our 15th warning! And we're not joking this time!"
And Lizard woman looks like a relative of the Gorn who attacked Captain Kirk in Star Trek.
Bush is bringing it to the dems. I hope they brought something to carry it in, because this is a fight that he wants.
(OTOH, why on earth does he want this fight? Even if he wins, and he stalls all of these investigations, he will have paved the road for the next president to run roughshod over the constitution and the NEXT pres is going to be a democrat)
[Concern troll be gone!]
I cannot think of a more infuriating time to be a citizen of the United States.
George W. Bush and Richard Cheney have spat upon our nation, given the world the middle finger, and like the roaches they are, have infested all three branches of government with these filthy neo-con human beings.
Harriet Miers: Go to hell.
Griz, with something like 65 votes to over ride a Veto, we really are in a hole anyway. In 08' when we get a Dem. prez back in the office, we will be in a better position to fight. For christ sake we just got the majority back after 10 years. I've been patient this long. Besides change takes time, and I know Iraq sucks.
/been through this before
//we have the majority. we don't have the majority
This is the beginning of the end.
Congressman Ellison's widely disparaged Hitler/Busch analogy needs only one other element to become complete, which is the dissolution of the House & Senate.
This act, Herr Busch's nominee for United States Supreme Justice, flipping Congress the bird is the first firm, concrete step in that direction.
When do we invade Poland?
What happens when a REGULAR citizen ignores a subpoena anyway?
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I didn't know miers was part of the executive branch of government.
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“In light of the continuing directives to Ms. Miers and as previously indicated to your Committee, I must respectfully inform you that, directed as she has been to honor the Executive privileges and immunities asserted in this matter, Ms. Miers will not appear before the Committee or otherwise produce documents or provide testimony as set forth in the Committee’s subpoena.”
...is what an attorney wrote when the vice president of the united states said: "tell those spineless bastards on the hill and the clueless unwashed masses they represent to fuck off..."
no mystery to that, folks...
Zlad @ 87:
first day in september would be nice...
i'll bring the sandwiches...
This is a tough one. They've already staged one event this week that they knew they would lose so they didn't have to take any responsibility for it one way or another. To take action against Miers would be .... well, it would be taking action. Are they up to it? I really don't know how I would bet.
If this Bush crony were on the Supreme Court she'd snub justice the same way. Not to worry though. Bush got through 2 other unqualified right wing activist ideologue justices through in her place.
Would Jesus ignore a Congressional Subpoena For A Second Time?
Friar Tuck @ 5:
That's why I don't think there will be an election. These guys are not going to give up power. Ever.
Congress is getting a bit tired of this game....
Let's see what happens tomorrow...
Save me a seat and some popcorn....
Bench Warrant!
I don't think congress would be able to use Miers' testimony anyway. She obviously has a mental problem. Remember, she called Bush "the most brilliant man I know"!
Remember Logan. We have a Democratic Congress now. Leahy etc etc etc..
Must be the Estratest....
It is outrageous that this administration has gone several times to prevent the duties of our congress and deny the right of the American people to knowledge. President Bush, once again, is misusing his presidential power to prevent the public from knowing the truth about this administration. Similar to the dealings with the war in Iraq, this administration has been feeding lies to the public. Now the war has proven to be a failure and is causing more violence, terror and poverty in this world. According to the Borgen Project, it only takes $19 billion dollars annually to eradicate world hunger and poverty. However, our government has already spent more than $450 billion dollars over this fruitless war in Iraq. It is time for the Bush Administration to take a real interest in the lives of the American people as well as people who are in desperate needs around the world. Stop the lies and stop poverty now.
Yea... BUT... she probably took one of those secret oaths to protect the Royal President from the impertinent questions pitched by the meaningless congress.
When you reside in the court of the Royal King President... then you do not have to belittle yourself by sitting in those hearing rooms and answer questions from those bothersome little people.
After all, the Royal King President, and the Royal King Vice President, and all the Royal King helpers are EXECUTIVELY PRIVILAGED. Don't you know that?
seamus @ 4:
Never overplay the . . . fuck! Keep that fucking powder dry, Congress! Don't worry. Your inability to prosecute even the most flagrant abuse of power will win you ticker-tape showers down Main Street.
The Democrats are going to huff and puff about how wrong it is for Meirs not to appear as requested (?ordered). However, they won't do a damn thing. The Constitution demands that the Congressional leadership arrest Meirs for her contempt of Congress. The Republicans will claim that the Democrats are taking the law into their own hands and call them fascists......sickening.
Jo @ 97:
Bluntly put, if there's not an election in 2008 there will be a problem in 2009.
'frog march' isn't as desireably as the 'perp walk' but I will take it.
99 @ 102:
99 what's that ? Edjamacate me.
Harry lives.
"she has been to honor the Executive privileges and immunities"
Is he just making this up as he goes along? "Privileges and immunities" are a constitutional buzz words but they don't appear anywhere in Art. II which governs the Executive Branch (interestingly, the words "executive privilege" don't appear, nor does "privilege" or "immunity") but have to do w/ what happens when a citizen of one state going into another state.
See for yourself
We voted this Democratic majority in, and we'll vote them out if they don't get a spine/balls/ovaries. Goddamn, how can these Dems sleep at night, knowing Bush/Cheney again told them to "Go fuck themselves".
seamus @ 4:
At this point, I seriously doubt that. People are pissed at this administration and they want accountability.
dadams @ 19:
Moron, try learning to read and comprehend before tagging your stupid remarks on to my comment. Where did I say one thing about the Troops.
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Will Congress do the right thing and hold Miers in Contempt of Congress or, better yet, will they charge her with Inherent Contempt and frog march her straight to trial?
hmmm....nope.
She has that look of Inherent Contempt all over her face.
I'd say it's time to take this long lost (70 years) rule out of the bag and reassert our Congress in a bold way.
Damn these Bushies. And damn them with charges.
(We know Bush doesn't want her to testify because she's actually more stupid than he is).
Tequilatarian @ 13:
Exactly. If it were an average citizen being subpoenaed and refusing to comply, they would be jailed. Simple. But of course, since it's not, IOKIYAR.
Mstessyrue @ 103:
You're talking to the wall. Bush is a Republican. He and his regime don't give 2 shits about the poor. His mother even thinks if the poor all had to slept in the floor in the Astrodome they would all be better off and should be grateful. This after her son's regime botched Katrina.
Let's remember that these things take a bit of time, folks. Leahy and Conyers are making sure every "i" is dotted and every "t" is crossed. Once the trap is sprung, we don't want our prey to get away on a technicality.
The Dems have only been in charge for 6 months. It takes time to build up the body of evidence they need to nail these bastards. The facts must be so obvious that the perpetrator has no political support to fall back on and is left twisting in the wind. These guys are wily old politicians and know how the game is played.
Remember it was Leahy who was on the receiving end of Cheney's famous epithet a few years back. He has not forgotten it.
The next couple of weeks should prove very interesting.
concernedmom @ 117:
The same thing that would happen if the average Joe killed a convenience store clerk while robbing the till. The reich wingers would want them lead to the gas chamber yet when they kill countless thousands trying to steal Iraq's oil they don't even get impeached let alone have to worry about facing the capital punishment laws they legislate for the rest of us.
the mafiafication of the White House continues. Frog march Harriet ASAP
Virtue Lord Purple @ 110:
Now if we can just get Pelosi to put impeachment on the table they will actually begin listening to the will of the voters.
Ruthless People @ 120:
Personally, I just love (insert sarcasm here) the way Bush touts the sanctity of life while executing more people in Texas than any other governor in history. It is astounding to me that Meiers actually was presented as a viable candidate to the Supreme Court.
I've been lurking on the site for some time now, but I am just so frustrated at the incompetent bungling of the dems and the utter hubris of this administration that I cannot stand it. I often pose the question to friends who support this administration-would you feel the same way if what Bush has done in the last 6 years were done instead by a democrat? Usually their eyes start to bug out and they begin to spit and sputter trying to figure out a way to respond that doesn't make them look like a complete idiot. It's kinda fun, actually.
Screw inherent contempt. Kidnap her and make her undergo involuntary eye-bag tuck and trim surgery, with a mascara power scrub rinse.
seamus, look at the preceding post about Judith Miller. How many people (besides Tweety) feel any sympathy for her because she was slapped into jail for 85 days (for contempt BTW)? Not many. The only people who will feel sympathy for Harriet Meiers are the same old same olds, the 26 per centers, the NRO crowd.
tom @ 119:
I am not so interested as I am pissed off. The body of evidence has already been built up and the Dems know it. It won't take any more than what has already happened for the Administration to be found guilty. No more "games"..... bury the bastards.
Griz @ 34:
Are you serious???? The Repubs investigated who was paying for the replies to fan mail Socks the cat sent, fer cryin' out loud.
naschkatze @ 125:
Congress is at 24% support. Not exactly a deep well spring of good will for them to draw from. The whole thing about arresting her, and locking her up in Congress is absurd. That is what the courts, the third branch, are for. Charge her with contempt in the courts, and tend to the real business of Congress. Read the history of Inherent Contempt and why they stopped using it. They were tied up almost all the time with petty side shows. Remember, if you start down that road, when the Republicans return to power, as always happens, then they will have the Democratic precedent to use against Democrats. Harriet Miers for cripes sake. People need to get a grip. Bush ordered her to do it. If they want to really challenge it, then charge him with the High Crime or Misdemeanor.
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The congress has failed to remove Alberto Gonzales; has failed to remove Rove, has failed to remove Rice; has failed to remove Cheney; has failed to hold this administration from accountable to the Katrina disaster; has failed to "drain the swamp of corruption" that they have so much brag about.
What makes them (AMERICA) think that they can succeed in making Miers comply to the subpeona let alone hold her in contempt? What political leverage do they have left? THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. But again, this is highly unlikely since they (the Congress) chose to do it alone and IGNORE the public CALL to IMPEACH. This administration believe they can get away with everything BECAUSE BUSH/CHENEY IS getting away with it.
People should consider INDEPENDENT party since the Dems has proven to be just as ineffective as the republicans. They have lost political clout, very much similar to the republicans. The only means to redem themselves is to begin IMPEACHMENT proceedings.
Otherswise, everyone should turn their TV off. This is a hopeless matter. This is a hopeless bunch of Congress.
Time to suspend this slimy bucket of Republican worms over the hot campfire of constitutional law. Let them squirm, then try to escape, leaping from the bucket only to land directly on the glowing coals of public scorn until they sizzle and pop and turn greasy black from all that guilt and shame.
Bush is defiant because he now controls the one lever of power that will ultimately save him and his cronies: the Supreme Court.
And every American, EVERY American, should be outraged that even the highest law of the land, the one branch of government that is supposed to be impartial and apolitical, has become politicized.
Congress will do nothing as they already have this weeks marching orders from the White House. absolutely nothing.
There once was a matron called Harriet
Who was certainly not an Iscariot
Her loyalty ran deep
(It does in most sheep)
And as far as go hatchets, she'd bury it.
harriet and the perp walk - coming soon.
Virtue Lord Purple @ 110:
Fuck! And now this! There is no justice in this world.
Can't they issue an arrest warrant?
Bush will resist wth everything at his disposal because the alternative is to expose his crimes.
I think inherant contempt is what might be appropriate for her not even appearing.
Show me any judge that doesn't issue a bench warrent for someone that does not appear in his court? There can't be seperate laws.................................
They better hold her in contempt. The question is whether the now partisan courts will back them up.
Don't hold her in contempt, hold her in jail. They have a Sgt. at Arms. That guy is empowered by the full force of the US government to arrest, detain and imprison anyone the congress chooses.
Harriet is one dumb bitch if she thinks chimpy can save her now. It only takes 50% of the House to detain her. The best part is there is no "crime" she can be pardonded from.
I think she best start talking.
IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH the fuckers NOW!
Run Harry! Run! The Repugs put people in shackles forever over Whitewater, a failed business investment. Meanwhile, all that the Bush Administration did was gut the Department of Justice. This is no big deal. After all, George Bush is the decider and the justicifier. Stand aside Lady Justice. George is in town and he is blind and deaf to all but the rich and richer. He determines what is right and wrong in this country, no matter what the Constitution or the laws say.
Does anyone else think she looks like a bird in that pic?
Amy @ 24:
Sorry, Seamus, but I have to object as well. We are in a desperate hour. America's reputation is at stake. The lives of thousands of American soldiers are at stake. Chances must be taken. Reputations must be risked. Desperate times call for desperate measures... done dirt cheap. Sorry, I couldn't avoid making an AC/DC reference.
It walks.... it breathes... it's ALIVE!!!
Aren't you glad that she wasn't make an Extreme Court "justice"?
Arrest her ass, drag her in shackles before Congress and try her for Inherent contempt. Disbar her. Throw her ass in jail - hardtime. throw away the key. Impeach bush for inherent contempt. Send his sociopathic ass to GITMO.
If mier's isn't attached to the government anymore, and we try to use inherent contempt against her, what's to protect us from the Patriot Act, or a new McCarthyism?
This is the thing - Republicans LOVE to play the victim. Nothing will please them more than having the Dems charge her with contempt. This Grannie looking woman - what a thing for them to practice their FAUX OUTRAGE!
You'll notice they succumbed to subpoenas for the others called before Miers. They have just been waiting...
Snub a sub flub.
1) Charge Miers w/INHERENT CONTEMPT.
2) Impeach the Snarl.
3) Chimpeach you-know-who!
Let's go Pelosi & Reid -- get with the program. Do your JOBS!
"Harriet Miers snubs any hint of fashion sense again". "Maybelline stocks up 3/4!"
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