I saw that on Huffington Post, hilarious. Just as expected, they all talk tough, but when asked why they don't enlist, "Hum... I WOULD, but I have this old injury..." ;)
College Republicans will not enlist because (1) they are too busy organizing "catch the illegal alien" events, (2) they are weak in body and mind from relentlessly masturbating to Ann Coulter, and (3) they are cowards.
These are smart people aren't they? You would have to think they realise how specious the slogan "we(others) fight them over there.. (you know the rest)" is. But then again, there seems to be some serious brainwashing, probably from a young age by both the party and their parents.
I went to college with some of these people. They are the folks made fun of when younger and want revenge and power. They are the folks who never had the self reliance to think for themselves and not take on the political opinions of their elders.
Have an idea: wouldn't it make sense to make military service a pre-requisite to run for office?
Wed, 07/18/2007 - 09:00 — Ruthless People (not verified)
Little Bushies and Cheneys in the making. About the only excuse I didn't hear in this video for these fledgling chickenhawks not going to the front lines is:
"I would go fight but I would probably end up shooting a fellow US soldier in the face"
these youngsters have a valid excuse not to serve in iraq , its medical to be sure! first they all have shit in their blood , and the yellow streak down their backs would be a dead giveaway to the insurgents they are republicans, as a veteran i could spot these repigs a mile away from the brown stains that have formed on the seat of their suits after being asked to join up to help their brothers walking the streets of bagdad, my god its as if they have ingrown toenails imbedded in their assholes!
Little Bushies and Cheneys in the making. About the only excuse I didn't hear in this video for these fledgling chickenhawks not going to the front lines is:
"I would go fight but I would probably end up shooting a fellow US soldier in the face"
Indeed. They'd constantly need to be reminded that the insurgents are the guys with the ak-47s, not the elderly lawyer-type in the orange vest.
College Republicans will not enlist because (1) they are too busy organizing "catch the illegal alien" events, (2) they are weak in body and mind from relentlessly masturbating to Ann Coulter, and (3) they are cowards.
It is far more #3 than anything else. To so fervently support the military actions over there yet fail to enlist means they are cowards and simply not people of strong conviction. It's easy to show up to a convention with free booze and loose women and talk tough, but real people put action to their ideas. Those kids are frauds.
Wed, 07/18/2007 - 09:05 — Ruthless People (not verified)
Interesting how these cowardly conservatives look the same in their 20's, when they should be at their physical prime, as they do in their 40's. Soft, pudgy and pasty white. These fledgling chickenhawks aren't capable of holding a rifle let alone shoot one....unless they are shooting at a small pen raised bird that can't shoot back that is.
Wed, 07/18/2007 - 09:08 — schwag of tulsa (not verified)
I wanna know where I can get one of those 'Draft College Republican' bumper stickers. Especially after watching all of the yellow-bellied weasels on Max's video.
I didn't care for the ending though. The piece was brilliant when he let the repugs speak for themselves, but i found the "interpretive dance"/kung fu moves to be just as silly and (oddly disruptive). I think Max is great but he was best when he was off camera.
College Republicans will not enlist because (1) they are too busy organizing "catch the illegal alien" events, (2) they are weak in body and mind from relentlessly masturbating to Ann Coulter, and (3) they are cowards.
It is far more #3 than anything else. To so fervently support the military actions over there yet fail to enlist means they are cowards and simply not people of strong conviction. It's easy to show up to a convention with free booze and loose women and talk tough, but real people put action to their ideas. Those kids are frauds.
I have to go with #3 also. Not so much #2 which would be more like masturbating to the latest boy band while bashing homosexuals.
Wed, 07/18/2007 - 09:12 — Mike the Canuk (not verified)
I watched it....what a bunch of phoneys. They spout the party line, but when asked why they're not there.......well oh my, there's this reason and that reason. If I lived in the states, well lets just say that as someone from canada, I'll keep my opinion to myself
They are like as the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy describes the sales and marketing division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation:
"A bunch of mindless jerks who will be the first against the wall when a revolution comes."
Funny video but hardly a valid arguing point. I mean after all there are tens of thousands of young republicans who ARE in the military fighting for what they proport to believe.
I went to college with some of these people. They are the folks made fun of when younger and want revenge and power. They are the folks who never had the self reliance to think for themselves and not take on the political opinions of their elders.
Have an idea: wouldn't it make sense to make military service a pre-requisite to run for office?
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i dunno, humid haney. i find most the time they are the rich shits who have absolutely no grasp on reality because everything has always been handed to them and they were taught from birth that they and theirs were/are better than anyone else and that people who don't live in their classy subdivisions aren't fit to wipe their feet. i remember several from my high school class who went on to be college turds republicans.
most of the kids who were picked on grew up to be genius computer wizards making tons of money, or generally more successful and happier than their snotty counterparts, either that or gay genius successful computer wizards with lots of friends in glamorous places...
My personal favorite was the guy who had to pray for guidance as to whether he was gay or straight. He had to ask? I beleive it was Jesus' General who said, "If you've ever had another man's testicles resting on your chin, you're not fully committed to the heterosexual lifestyle."
i can now understand why these blood sucking military recruiters are so disheartened when they set up shop at colleges seeking more cannon fodder for bush, its easyer sucking in high school fools with no hopes of getting a higher education unless they join the coffin brigade the army runs!
Wed, 07/18/2007 - 09:16 — Le Roi et Mort (not verified)
So, apparently there's a Warrior class. Is that news to anyone? All the people who enlisted that I know of were either poor white trash or the ass-hole football players with a C- to D average who had no other inclination but to violence. Hopefully they have "I.E.D" written all over them.
It's better to have them fighting over there than to fight them here.
Blumenthal's video reminds me of a bizarre conversation that I had with my neighbor a few weeks ago. When I asked this very conservative woman why not one member of Bush's approximately 45 member family is fighting in Iraq, she suddenly shifted the conversation to say that her father and her husband should not have to fight in Iraq, even though I had inquired of Bush's family and not of hers. Super conservatives like my neighbor will use any excuse that they can find why either they or Bush's family should not have to share the burden of fighting alongside the poor and working classes in Iraq.
Wed, 07/18/2007 - 09:18 — Ruthless People (not verified)
The best visual I can come up with for what it would be like if these fledgling chickenhawks were on the front lines after that first shell when off is to imagine Curly, Larry and Moe and the end of every 3 Stooges short running around hysterically clunking their heads into one another.
Interesting how these cowardly conservatives look the same in their 20's, when they should be at their physical prime, as they do in their 40's. Soft, pudgy and pasty white.
My personal favorite was the guy who had to pray for guidance as to whether he was gay or straight. He had to ask? I beleive it was Jesus' General who said, "If you've ever had another man's testicles resting on your chin, you're not fully committed to the heterosexual lifestyle."
My guess is that the young man's prayers were not truthfully answered.
Don't these retarded C- students just make you wanna screech? They have pressed suits but empty minds; parroting lines they've been fed. And they are all religiously delusional and incapable of thought. These are the masses that drag down our civilization. Look stay in church all day if you have to; but stay the hell away from politics!
With so many of them having medical conditions I wonder if they are for Universal Health Care? A while back I took my elderly neighbor on Veterans Day to a restruant where the American Legion was providing free meal for the vets. It was interesting to hear my neighbor talk with some other WWII vets about having to lie about their age to be able to join because they were to young but they were fully behind the war and wanted to do their part for the country. If these young republicans are really as patriotic as they like to act they would join like Pat Tillman did. I'm sure there are a lot of young high school grads that don't have the luxury of there parents paying for college that support this war that are signing up why can't you. That's alright though because they will come back as Democrats and when they run for office against you they can turn to their service for this country and prove they are a real patriot and not just a yellow dog republican.
Individually they were funny as hell. Early in the video when the guy in the white t-shirt said he might enlist if he didn't become a great or good speaker. I think he can give up on that idea. He is great at only one thing, denial.
The guy chewing gum with his mouth open while talking was priceless.
I agree the last part with the dancing was strange.
Maybe the people in Iraq would have had something to say about our bringing our war to their front yard and fighting "them over there, rather than over here".
Great video. Do you guys really think, though, that in order to support a war, you must be serving or have served in it? That seems like a very strict standard for participation in the debate. If, for example, someone argued that all publicly funded fire departments should be disbanded, surely I would be able to advocate a position supporting the existence of fire departments even if I had no intention to join their ranks.
Am I missing the point?
Nick, I think the point is that these particular ill informed kids were gung ho for war just as long as someone else was fighting and dying in it. I don't recall any of them saying we support our troops. Maybe I missed it. They do support the troops as long as the troops do not include them.
be afraid be very afraid , these pukes are just the tip of the iceburg, if ever democracy is restored to this country these same pieces of shit will be waiting in the wings to spread their venom once again over this land , they must be stamped out their wealth their priveleges taken away and be forced to live off the same food stamps and given first dibs on liveing quarters under bridges just like they would have us do, as a novelist once said beware the bitch that spawned these cretins for shes alive and well and is back in heat!!!!
Funny video but hardly a valid arguing point. I mean after all there are tens of thousands of young republicans who ARE in the military fighting for what they proport to believe.
True. There are 2 types of Republicans. (1) Those Republicans who believed the propaganda and lies of why we are over in Iraq and go over their to fight for the interests of Halliburton....or who got over there, wised up and are now stuck. (2) those Republicans who know better, who promote the propaganda and lies but are too cowardly to go themselves or to send their own kids instead promote sending the former in their places. At least the former are putting their lives on the line for what they believe or what they believed at the time and I respect that, the latter are cowards and the lowest of the low for promoting war and sending others to fight yet refuse to fight themselves.
Wed, 07/18/2007 - 09:33 — Orwell's Illegitimate Son (not verified)
sh@dow @ 38
Yes, this would be an interesting topic, but it's not nearly as fun as watching a video and laughing.
I'm often reminded of the sinking of the Titanic when I think about the decline of America, Inc. On the doomed boat, the band may have merely played on, but in this doomed corporation we call the USofA, everybody just sits and giggles.
We're laughing ourselves into oblivion and seemingly enjoying it.
My kid brother has asthma as a kid and he's a blue belt in
Taekwondo he's more tougher and can outrun all of those College Republican cowards.
I think the reason they make up all these reason to not go to the military is very obious : When they are in the first day of basic training of any military branch they will constantly s*it their pants and see rivers of urine flowing from their pants and be so easily intimidated by the Drill Sargeant they wish they back in their privliged life back home.
The "interpretative dance" routine was just silly and really took away from the seriousness of the issue.
But, good grief, how many talking points can these kids regurgitate? Fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here? Well, then, what will be the reason to stay in Iraq when there's another terrorist incident on American soil?
As it has been stated many times previous; if the U.S. reinstated an honest and fair military draft, this war would end faster than a barber could give one of these silver-spooned punks a buzz cut.
Great video. Do you guys really think, though, that in order to support a war, you must be serving or have served in it? That seems like a very strict standard for participation in the debate. If, for example, someone argued that all publicly funded fire departments should be disbanded, surely I would be able to advocate a position supporting the existence of fire departments even if I had no intention to join their ranks.
Am I missing the point?
If part of your reasoning is that this is the battle for our generation, and that we must fight them there... Then it is a valid question to ask somebody with that kind of illogical support and rhetoric why they did not sign up.
I saw that on Huffington Post, hilarious. Just as expected, they all talk tough, but when asked why they don't enlist, "Hum... I WOULD, but I have this old injury..." ;)
Solution to this excuse:
Take out a hundred dollar bill and tell them that you will personally drive them down to Armed Forces Recruitment to enlist and if they get rejected the for medical purposes, you will give them $100.00.
If they decline, ask them if they are affrad to enlist because the millatary dosen't accept gays?
Great video. Do you guys really think, though, that in order to support a war, you must be serving or have served in it? That seems like a very strict standard for participation in the debate. If, for example, someone argued that all publicly funded fire departments should be disbanded, surely I would be able to advocate a position supporting the existence of fire departments even if I had no intention to join their ranks.
Am I missing the point?
RE the fire department: If you advocate torching other people's houses, then yeah, you'd have some explaining to do.
That makes sense. But wouldn't their reply be that the "battle for our generation" will be lost not because of a deficiency of troops, but by withdrawing the military altogether? Their position isn't that we need more troops to win, but that we need to sustain our current presence over there.
Great video. Do you guys really think, though, that in order to support a war, you must be serving or have served in it? That seems like a very strict standard for participation in the debate. If, for example, someone argued that all publicly funded fire departments should be disbanded, surely I would be able to advocate a position supporting the existence of fire departments even if I had no intention to join their ranks.
Am I missing the point?
Yes, I think so. That's a very poor analogy.
The Republicans are framing this debate as if the Iraq War is being waged to protect all of us at home. You know the schtick: We're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here (who gives a crap about the Iraqi civilians...), and if we withdraw, they'll follow us home. In other words, this war is to prevent all of us from being killed by terrorists. That's how they justify the exorbitant costs in both American lives and money.
Now let's go back to your fire department analogy. Let's say you believe that a forest fire is going to spread nation-wide and that's why we must send thousands of firefighters directly into the fire to die horribly and we must continue doing so for 10 years or more... These firefighters are forced to exhaust themselves and neglect their families, jobs, etc. and the fire department is having a lot of trouble getting new recruits. Well, don't you think you should be willing to get yourself trained and protect your country along with the brave firefighters who are dying every day? How the hell do you justify going merrily along with your own life while so many others are getting slaughtered for something you believe in so strongly?
Conclusion: You really don't think the fire is ever going to reach you, or you're a coward of the worst kind.
Wed, 07/18/2007 - 10:03 — Mike @ 44 (not verified)
I thought the interpretive dance at the end was funny (hippy prankster) I think he's saying: The college republicans are doing something absurd here... I think I will join in.
OMG the 'guy who isn't raelly gay' was the greatest. I actually felt sorry for him. He doesn't belong amoungst those other souless jackasses. He seemed dim-witted and easily lead, but otherwise a sweetheart. He can be saved. The rest of the lot have fang smiles.
the interpretive dance thing was stupid and made him seem like an a-hole. The rest was pretty funny. It's not a completely valid argument in that you can certainly have an opinion on the war and not serve. But when you start saying things like "America doesn't have the stomach for war", etc., that's pushin it.
Part of me wants them to re-implement the draft so the country will wake up and start protesting en mass. won't happen though...
I am now going to do some reasearch to see if the founding fathers ever had these types in mind when they were considering what kind of country we should be. These people are a real danger to our democracy. we really need to revamp the teaching of history and civics in this country, because they were right, "we are more active than the democrats on campus, which makes up for the difference in numbers..." if you try to teach people that the sky is blue, and provide a reasoned, impartial, and unemotional argument as to why that is, most people will agree. But if someone else is angrily yelling at you saying that the sky is purple, a small percentage of people are predisposed by their upbringing and life experience to believe what you are saying regarless of the merits or factual basis. These people are motivated by fear of the unknown, and they work very hard to preserve what they "know" to be true. People should be educated early in the history and basic facts about our goverment. This will help to thin out the ranks of college republicans.
Why are Republicans so secretive? Don't they have the strength of their convictions to withstand scrutiny?
Maybe, in their hearts, they know they are two-faced,cowardly bigots.
I want that bumper sticker. Also, I am very releaved that that gay totally hetero kid spanked one out prayed to teh Jebus, and was relieved of his lust for man sex impure thoughts.
That makes sense. But wouldn't their reply be that the "battle for our generation" will be lost not because of a deficiency of troops, but by withdrawing the military altogether? Their position isn't that we need more troops to win, but that we need to sustain our current presence over there.
You need troops to fight a war. Thousands of our soldiers are dead. Many thousands more are maimed. The ones who are fighting are being pushed beyond reasonable limits.
If you want to argue that we don't have a troop deficiency, you're certainly entitled to that delusion.
Great video. Do you guys really think, though, that in order to support a war, you must be serving or have served in it? That seems like a very strict standard for participation in the debate. If, for example, someone argued that all publicly funded fire departments should be disbanded, surely I would be able to advocate a position supporting the existence of fire departments even if I had no intention to join their ranks.
Am I missing the point?
Are you asking firefighter to give their lives for you?
How many firefighters do you want to die, so you don't have to fight fires?
Do you want firefighters to kill other people for your beliefs?
Firefighters protect lives and property, soldiers destroy lives and property.
Is killing a fire as morally wrong as killing a human being?
As I see it, wars are morally and ethically wrong. Though there may be moral arguments for joining in a war, for defense or to defend allies, the war as a whole is still wrong.
I think its a far cry from saying I want firefighters to protect our community against fires and saying I want me fellow citizens to slaughter other people in other lands, destroy their homes and possiblly be killed or maimed in the process.
Wed, 07/18/2007 - 10:14 — Orwell's Illegitimate Son (not verified)
Bud @ 66:
Huh?
Yeah, when I think of quality places of higher learning and intellectual stimulation, I immediately cast my sights on the middle of Pennsylvania (my state) and the northern part of Texas.
My personal favorite was the guy who had to pray for guidance as to whether he was gay or straight. He had to ask? I beleive it was Jesus' General who said, "If you've ever had another man's testicles resting on your chin, you're not fully committed to the heterosexual lifestyle."
My guess is that the young man's prayers were not truthfully answered.
This kid probably really hates himself, and I almost feel sorry for him because of it.... but not quite.
'you think abortion doesn't affect you? it does. think about it. if we had those 40 million babies who have been killed...[here's the punchline] we wouldn't need illegal immigrants.'
do they get any more despicable than tom fcking delay?
unfortunately, though it doesn't seem possible, yes, yes they do...
Funny video but hardly a valid arguing point. I mean after all there are tens of thousands of young republicans who ARE in the military fighting for what they proport to believe.
And what is the source of this information or is this just more right wing Bushit
I am now going to do some reasearch to see if the founding fathers ever had these types in mind when they were considering what kind of country we should be. These people are a real danger to our democracy. we really need to revamp the teaching of history and civics in this country, because they were right, "we are more active than the democrats on campus, which makes up for the difference in numbers..." if you try to teach people that the sky is blue, and provide a reasoned, impartial, and unemotional argument as to why that is, most people will agree. But if someone else is angrily yelling at you saying that the sky is purple, a small percentage of people are predisposed by their upbringing and life experience to believe what you are saying regarless of the merits or factual basis. These people are motivated by fear of the unknown, and they work very hard to preserve what they "know" to be true. People should be educated early in the history and basic facts about our goverment. This will help to thin out the ranks of college republicans.
Perhaps this is why the Republican Party has been trying to kill public schools for so long.
An educated and aware populace is the death of the Conservative/Republican politics of fear and lies.
Funny video but hardly a valid arguing point. I mean after all there are tens of thousands of young republicans who ARE in the military fighting for what they proport to believe.
Exactly. think if this war was actually legit... There would be tens of thousands of active supporters that would rather not enlist. There's two types of people in this world. :P Those who can kill other people and those who can't. And that's okay...I feel there's always alternatives to fighting a psychical war in many cases. Unless that is (like WWII and Hitler) they just won't have it any other way. But Al Kida...OBL, arab fundy groups are NOT in it for blood, they're in it because the walls are pushing in around them...they are simply defending themselves. The funniest thing about the video is what if they actually knew that the people we are fighting now had NOTHING to do with 9/11 George's even said that...what would they say....uhhhhhh fucking nothing that's what and they'd probably go back to turning a deaf ear and blind eyes to what's going on now because they're too stupid and scared. Personally I believe war in general, especially now, is outdated, savage and wrong in MOST cases. But you have to realize this is NOT a war. People keep saying that, but we have NOT declared war on anyone. This is a Arab GENOCIDE in the making and that's all it is. We are there to occupy land and eventually seize the resources and reclaim Israel for a bunch of ridiculously rich fundy fuckheads on both sides of the ocean...THATS WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO REALIZE....goddamn it makes me sick. nice try dude, but get better educated and ask the right questions....LOVE the bumper sticker tho, where can I get one?
I really like the young man (Max Kues) in the T-shirt who knows for a fact he is not Gay, and that he can't join the war effort because, "if I somehow become a like really good like speaker, stuff like that..." His sharp grasp of grammar and sentence structure has him off to a good start emulating his current favorite president. They all had their good ole' Neo-boy excuses and it really makes me wish I was young and in college again so I could chastise these people properly and daily.
I recognize the difference between a firefight and a war. However, the underlying point of my analogy was that you don't necessarily have to be directly involved in a cause in order to advocate for it. Another example a conservative might give is:
If your doctor wouldn't opt for surgery because he wouldn't want to deal with the year-long rehab, but he recommends it to you as the best course of action for x,y, z reasons, you'd still listen to the advice of your doctor, no? Or would you say "Well, *you* wouldn't opt for the surgery, so I'm going to say surgery is the wrong strategy!"
Again, that's assuming the warhawk has comparable expertise in his field to a doctor, which is a stretch.
Also, since I see this as a regional conflict and not a war of WWII variety, I'm more comfortable with someone taking a position in support of it without actually joining. But, as seen in the video, these kids compared it directly to WWII, and thus hurts their case.
I do think there is validity in what you (rekroc) and others are saying about our soldiers being stretched thin and how this fact weighs heavily in favor of those who want war supporters to back up their rhetoric with action (ie enlisting)
Great video. Do you guys really think, though, that in order to support a war, you must be serving or have served in it? That seems like a very strict standard for participation in the debate. If, for example, someone argued that all publicly funded fire departments should be disbanded, surely I would be able to advocate a position supporting the existence of fire departments even if I had no intention to join their ranks.
Am I missing the point?
Totally missed the point. The Repug brats want to keep sending people into a useless war but they dont want to fight it theirselves.
I also have to say something about Tom Delay's comment on abortion. ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MIND? 40,000,000 dead babies are the reason we have an immigration problem in this country? where'd he get those numbers anyways...that seems awfully high. Even so...what he's saying is abortion is wrong because all those bastard children to be could have been digging ditches, painting my house, and smoking my drugs...but instead now the illegal Mexicans have to do it???....what an asshole. Those extra 40,000,000 kids would be one or more of the following: 1) mentally handicapped 2) poor as shit 3) had severe health problems 4) foster kids 5) miserable 6) contaminated the gene pool from inbreeding. Well then maybe he's right, manual labor is all those kid would have been capable of doing...dammit.
If you folks that post here represent the typical liberal, then there is NO DOUBT that the majority of folksi n the military, and the ones fighting this war, are conservatives.
Why would we volunteer to fight a pointless war that we don't support? That would be stupid.
Funny video but hardly a valid arguing point. I mean after all there are tens of thousands of young republicans who ARE in the military fighting for what they proport to believe.
And what is the source of this information or is this just more right wing Bushit
Well, it is pretty obvious. If you folks that post here represent the typical liberal, then there is NO DOUBT that the majority of folksi n the military, and the ones fighting this war, are conservatives. That is about as obvious as it it that Michael Moore is a fat slob.
Why haven't you enlisted yet, thumb-dick? Oh that's right....you're doing your 'part' and 'supporting the troops' by attacking us nasty liberals! Here I am, bitch! I served eight years in U.S. Army and I am as liberal as they come and so were most of the guys I served with. The officer corp was usually made up of fat-assed Republicans who joined because they loved to be saluted and treated special! If it wasn't for the non-coms, these commissioned assholes wouldn't have been able to find their own dicks in the dark!
My question is this - why are you liberals afraid to join the military? If you believe in your convictions, I would think all of you would want to join the military, climb the ranks, and become generals so you could run wars the right way.
I don't understand your logic. Why the F#%K would someone who was anti-war join the military?
I do believe in my convictions which are anti-war.
I don't join the military because of those convictions.
My guess is that you shack up with your sister and live in a trailer park. Right?
These ego-bloated punks are the products of parents who raised them to take advantage of capable others. These are the future managers of multi-national corporations.
I've said it before: It takes a certain lack of mentality to be a republican. All of them make me puke.
draft kids who come from families with a gross income of $200,000 a year...and no one else!
this war would come to a screeching halt!!
AMEN! The draft will end this war and that is exactly why it has not been implemented. Watch the movie Sicko. In the movie it is said that in France, "the government is afraid of the people, in America the people are afraid of the government". How in God's name can we continue to tolerate this?
When are the American people going to stop blogging, stop posting gripes, and put their feet on the ground and start protesting this war?? Why isn't every Senator's and Representative's email and voicemail filled every second of every day with messages from all of US telling them to impeach Cheney and Bush??
My God people, stop talking and get walking. Organize protests in your area. Coordinate with Liberal radio to make it happen.
Well, it is pretty obvious. If you folks that post here represent the typical liberal, then there is NO DOUBT that the majority of folksi n the military, and the ones fighting this war, are conservatives. That is about as obvious as it it that Michael Moore is a fat slob.
Get a clue, please. The majority of folks in the military joined because they thought it would be a good way to get training, an education, discipline, etc. And because they joined the military, they had no choice but to fight in this war.
It's pretty scary to think about what other nonsensical BS might be "obvious" to you.
Wed, 07/18/2007 - 10:32 — vittoria falconer (not verified)
WHO EVER THE SITE MONITOR IS I WANT TO THANK HIM/HER FOR DELETING THE ABOVE COMMENT... i was just on my way to set him/her/it straight...
in other news... its refreshing to hear and to see all of the young people stumbling upon their words when asked why not join... its beauteous to notice that all of the young female repugswere just way too happy to have a "HAWT" guy next to them that shares their convictions... and it was funny as hell to see the chunky dOOd get bent out of shape becuase the chick in the red dress said basically Gawd made adam and eve and not adam and steve and chunky dOOd was all like "OMG I CANT BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!.....i prayed a lot to Gawd and i am officially not GAY"
wow must have hit him below the belt (all puns intended) for him to flip out like that...
amazing that they were eager to take advice from criminals like Tom Delay...
amazing that any kind of media would be cast out of a function... REGARDLESS of their political standing...
only in America land of the .... umm ... i thought it was free but i dont know WTF it is now...
I recognize the difference between a firefight and a war. However, the underlying point of my analogy was that you don't necessarily have to be directly involved in a cause in order to advocate for it. Another example a conservative might give is:
I do think there is validity in what you (rekroc) and others are saying about our soldiers being stretched thin and how this fact weighs heavily in favor of those who want war supporters to back up their rhetoric with action (ie enlisting)
I think it is fundamentally wrong to ask other people to kill and die for a cause you don't believe in enough, that you won't do the same yourself.
If they truely believed in this war, I believe they would've signed up.
My oldest nephew believed in it, and he's in Baghdad now. He's been injured in one IED attack already.
I don't believe in this war and I want to bring him home. If these young men and women really do believe in the war, then I'd like to see them prove it, by joining up so my nephew can at least come home once in a while.
These College Republicans are just paying the war lip service. I don't believe they have any real commitment or actually believe what they are saying.
I understand stand what you are saying, but when it comes to asking people to slaughter other people for you, then I think we're entering a completely different realm of argumentation.
Wed, 07/18/2007 - 10:34 — jar jar binks (not verified)
I've Googled and contacted the ministry Max Kues (the self-hating gay in the video) is a member of. Needless to say, he will be getting lots of counseling soon. I expect him to be dead a year from now. LOL
The tall guy in the red shirt is most definitely gay.
(I know, because my gaydar picked it up immediately)
We don't really want more gay republicans,
so I think he should be sent to reparative therapy.
'you think abortion doesn't affect you? it does. think about it. if we had those 40 million babies who have been killed...[here's the punchline] we wouldn't need illegal immigrants.'
do they get any more despicable than tom fcking delay?
unfortunately, though it doesn't seem possible, yes, yes they do...
exactly ,if they had been born they would have just been more victims of shitheads like these little gutless pukes that will work in their daddys sweat shops for peanuts, like the illeagles do, no wonder the scumbags in the repig party deplores abortion its a loss of profits for them!
Amazing...even at this age, all these idiots can do is talk about gays, abortion, 'supporting the troops' by doing ANYTHING but actually enlisting and helping them fight and possibly bring this disaster to an earlier conclusion!
The fact that they actually sit there, listening with respect and reverence to a complete doushbag and criminal like Tom Delay says right there, these little bastards are scum!
The tall guy in the red shirt is most definitely gay.
(I know, because my gaydar picked it up immediately)
We don't really want more gay republicans,
so I think he should be sent to reparative therapy.
LOL! You picked up on that too, huh? He was probably there secretly representing the Log Cabin Republicans...not to be confused, of course, in any way with 'Jews for Hitler.'
These guys shit themselves at the sight of anyone who looks slightly Arab. Can you imagine them confronting a bona fide insurgent? Their rectums wouldn't be able to handle the throughput of shit into the pants.
The tall guy in the red shirt is most definitely gay.
(I know, because my gaydar picked it up immediately)
We don't really want more gay republicans,
so I think he should be sent to reparative therapy.
I've known a lot of these milquetoast repig cowards. And the biggest joke of it is that the vast majority were in ROTC in high school so they wouldn't have to take phys ed!
They really do mean it though when they parrot the "fight them over there" talking point. The thought of having to step up and actually get involved in a fight for their own survival gives them a major case of the heebie jeebies.
I'm not inclined to make it a requirement that you be in the military prior to running for public office (specifically for those who would be in the position to enact war, fund war or have any legal ability to further the cause of war) but in the future I will personally look at a military record with much more intensity. It seems to me that those who have gone through it may be less inclined to romanticize war and possibly more cautious about getting us into war. I would also look to future presidential candidates who would be willing to enact a more egalitarian approach to military service.
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Lol - f*** you f****t
[Edited. See how Rand and his ilk argue? Not only is he a chickenhawk and a coward, he's unable to form a cogent argument in order to debate his Thug Talking Points. Enlist Rand-Sitemonitor]
being old has its disadvantages one disadvantage is most of my freinds are dead , so im left with just a few who i visit , one of them i go to see on sundays is a nascar freak he sits there for hours watching thoes cars circle round and round , when i can get him in a conversation i talk about all the shit cheny bush have caused ,all i gets the same arguments i hear on this site from fox news, then his daughters come over and we talk and what comes out of their pie holes is the same misinformation that their dad feeds them , and when i tell them their were no iraqys that hit us on 911 they sputter and fume that well they would have attacked us if they could have, and all thoes ragheads should be killed, ive tried to reason with them and i must be getting thru a little bit, at least the girls say they arent voteing anymore and the old man says he might have voted for edwards next election but somewhere he heard edwards paid 1600 for a haircut , lord save us !
[Thanks for your suggestion, Rand. A little primitive for us here, but if that sort of thing floats your boat-I mean you wouldn't have come up with it if it didn't, correct? Be sure your partner is a consenting adult and you have safe words-Sitemonitor]
Yeah, when I think of quality places of higher learning and intellectual stimulation, I immediately cast my sights on the middle of Pennsylvania (my state) and the northern part of Texas.
OIS @ 83
I never said Pennsyltucky or (north) Texas were stimulating areas. But both schools were - at least to me. I still think PSU was great - but State College sucked eggs. Same with UNT and Denton.
That makes sense. But wouldn't their reply be that the "battle for our generation" will be lost not because of a deficiency of troops, but by withdrawing the military altogether? Their position isn't that we need more troops to win, but that we need to sustain our current presence over there.
That doesn't answer the basic question: Why aren't these cowards in uniform if "we need to sustain our current presence there"? Don't try to twist this, Nick. These are overpriveleged cowards who think that it's poor and working-class kids' destiny to shed their blood in pointless wars. And they say Liberals are "elitist"? Fuck all of them!
"Unfortunately...". Oh no....., your misfortunes have ended GOPer, Jr's! Haven't you heard that the Pentagram has seriously relaxed their medical standards? Why, they're even allowing you to go back into combat when you haven't even recovered from from your last wounds. Asthma? Not to worry. they'll take you medical condition, tattoos, criminal record... whatever you bring to the table with you.
Inside of every Republican is a coward (at least that coward shares good company with the inner thief , the inner liar, the inner predator, the inner sociopath, the inner would-be murderer).
War on campus, GOPer, Jr's?. I don't think so. You'll know when a war on campus has erupted, because there'll be people shooting at you.
That makes sense. But wouldn't their reply be that the "battle for our generation" will be lost not because of a deficiency of troops, but by withdrawing the military altogether? Their position isn't that we need more troops to win, but that we need to sustain our current presence over there.
That doesn't answer the basic question: Why aren't these cowards in uniform if "we need to sustain our current presence there"? Don't try to twist this, Nick. These are overpriveleged cowards who think that it's poor and working-class kids' destiny to shed their blood in pointless wars. And they say Liberals are "elitist"? Fuck all of them!
in reality these pukes if they were to join would only be a hazzard to the real soldiers because they useually make these turds officers , wich means the real troopers are just packing this useless pricks on their backs, till they make enough rank to set in the green zone and count beans and someday make general from wasteing their troops say assholes like betrayus!
College Republicans will not enlist because (1) they are too busy organizing "catch the illegal alien" events, (2) they are weak in body and mind from relentlessly masturbating to Ann Coulter, and (3) they are cowards.
I'd actually go with hidden answer #4: A lot of people like this (active in CR) think of the world differently. They're the "brains"; they do the thinking and the planning. The others (read, you and I) are the "brawn"; they are the ones who do the actual work. They don't enlist because they think that they're more important and more useful here at home, fighting with speeches and OpEds.
Wow, who would have thunk that most republicans are too chicken to go fight them over their...hell ask any republican and they'll tell you "that's what poor people are for" - So to any republican who is reading this blog - either put up or shut up becuase you are not fighting them over there, your sitting here too scared to sign up, but then when you hear of the hard ships of the real patriots who are fighting over there you say "well, that's what they signed up for" - Oh how I hate you peice of shit republicans!
Wed, 07/18/2007 - 11:12 — mike @ 44 (not verified)
Another point the republicans like to make is that the "War on Terror" with islamic fascism is World War III. If I recall correctly, and I think others have pointed out above, the young men of the great generation did everything they could to get into the fight after Pearl Harbor.
The one idea that Dennis Miller has right is the idea that shunning (sp?) should be brought back into vogue. I think these chicken-hawks should be shunned. If you know a fighting age chicken-hawk, shun him/her...
OMG the 'guy who isn't raelly gay' was the greatest. I actually felt sorry for him. He doesn't belong amoungst those other souless jackasses. He seemed dim-witted and easily lead, but otherwise a sweetheart. He can be saved. The rest of the lot have fang smiles.
I agree. Also the second stud that spoke early in the video reminded me of Mitt Romney. Trying to deepen his voice and seem all sophisticated. What a nitwit!. Sickening! Truly these are America's finest. Also the girls, these are valley girls. The future Kay Baily Hutchison's and Susan Collins.
Great video. Do you guys really think, though, that in order to support a war, you must be serving or have served in it?
Yes. If they decided to disband the fire departments, the lives of firemen aren't at stake.
The difference here is that this was is not about a clear and present danger to the US the way the Axis powers were. It has been amply proved that the war was unnecessary. And the soldiers that are fighting are staying in Iraq longer and longer, and going back more and more frequently. There is a desperate shortage of people to fight the war. So, if young able bodied people are convinced it's the right thing to do, they are obliged to join, to relieve the people doing the fighting for them.
I still think that the continuation of the war should be contingent on Bush's daughters going there to serve now and not being allowed to leave until it is over.
I guess I'm the odd-man-out here, but I find Blumenthal's stuff smirky, dismissive, and full of cheap shots. Also: unoriginal. He stole the idea here from Michael Moore, who did a hell of a lot more with it in Fahrenheit 9/11 (remember Moore & Army friend handing out recruitment pamphlets to strangely retiscent Congressers?). Even Blumenthal's narration voice is creepy.
This sort of smart-ass satire has a history of backfiring, and requires a far lighter touch.
Where did they find these people and why did they send them here? I could write for hours, but it does no good and would not change the mind of one of these cult members.
For those who are wondering about the Max Blumenthal interpretive dance...........at that point he knew he was going to have to make an exit,however he would only exit on his terms.
He knew how they think, and the mini-repugs played right into his hands.
These young repugs have no legitimate excuses for not serving.
Solid piece of work Max!
I guess I'm the odd-man-out here, but I find Blumenthal's stuff smirky, dismissive, and full of cheap shots.
What's cheaper? The punches, or the Repukes' responses?
And you're whining about it being unoriginal? What are you? The political fashion police? Education isn't supposed to be about originality, its about getting the message across first and foremost. If the message is repeated, that just means there are people who haven't learned it the first time.
Oh shadow...I 'm sorry if I made it sound as if I had the definitive answer. You're right...by my comment, McCain should be a good candidate (when in fact, I'm sure its to our benefit that his campaign is unraveling and he's ready to self-destruct). I'm just putting forth the idea that MAYBE.....in general those who have actually fought might be a little less likely to get us embroiled in this mess. Or maybe what we should look for are those individuals who could have gone (should have) but bent heaven and earth to avoid going. Didn't Cheney have his enlistment deferred 5-6 times?
I guess I'm the odd-man-out here, but I find Blumenthal's stuff smirky, dismissive, and full of cheap shots.
What's cheaper? The punches, or the Repukes' responses?
And you're whining about it being unoriginal? What are you? The political fashion police? Education isn't supposed to be about originality, its about getting the message across first and foremost. If the message is repeated, that just means there are people who haven't learned it the first time.
No kidding.....and I guess being "original" is EVERY reich-winger in that clip claiming we "are fighting them over there so we don't fight them here". LOL.
Wed, 07/18/2007 - 11:30 — baby jesus (not verified)
baby jesus is excited about this video, this means many more years of mindless followers and more money pouring into baby jesus
baby jesus needs these people at home and not dying to feed coffers
baby jesus is worried some of those kids are too dumb to make money, but they will be hired by some good Republican or christian company
Another point the republicans like to make is that the "War on Terror" with islamic fascism is World War III. If I recall correctly, and I think others have pointed out above, the young men of the great generation did everything they could to get into the fight after Pearl Harbor.
The one idea that Dennis Miller has right is the idea that shunning (sp?) should be brought back into vogue. I think these chicken-hawks should be shunned. If you know a fighting age chicken-hawk, shun him/her...
Great idea: I have for several years now completely cut off my Repug neighbors, I have told them in no uncertain terms that I think they are cowardly for saying they support the war but never even thinking of actually fighting it. also I hang signs in my front window and out front of my house telling them how unAmerican they all are. And to top it off I don't invite them to anything going on at my place, without any concern for their fragile feelings, I just believe that if you hate America then you really should not be allowed in my All American Home! I certainly wouldn't step foot into their Fascist homes, even if I was invited.
Wed, 07/18/2007 - 11:37 — King of Mean (not verified)
I believe this story, of who we send to fight our wars, is the biggest story of our time... far bigger than the Iraq war. It gets down to the core of how purely evil some people really are and can be.
I am a chicken... I don't have the courage to fight a war... but I have more courage than any of those college republican assholes... cause at least I can admit I'm a chicken. they can't even admit that.
"oh, my aching back... I guess I can't go fight in Iraq in Bush's glorious war... maybe you idiots should go instead..."
And Tom Delay is the biggest queen on the planet. Hello Frisco!!
If you believe in this so-called war then you should be there fighting it. Those punk rich kids haven't got a clue to what they are talking about. I feel like part of this country is as stupid as it gets. Too afraid to face the real reason we are there even though it affects us all every single day of our lives.
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I just watched it at Huffpo . It's awesome.
I saw that on Huffington Post, hilarious. Just as expected, they all talk tough, but when asked why they don't enlist, "Hum... I WOULD, but I have this old injury..." ;)
Glad you got this one on. Talk about chickenhawk city (with apologies to Henery Hawk. There's a kick*ss bird)
Bunch of A-HOLES!
He'll save our bacon in Iraq:
http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/news_images/9840_27663_2.jpg
College Republicans will not enlist because (1) they are too busy organizing "catch the illegal alien" events, (2) they are weak in body and mind from relentlessly masturbating to Ann Coulter, and (3) they are cowards.
Max makes classic videos. I loved the CPAC one as well.
troll proof!
Saw that on Huffpo.
Max, you da' man!!
These are smart people aren't they? You would have to think they realise how specious the slogan "we(others) fight them over there.. (you know the rest)" is. But then again, there seems to be some serious brainwashing, probably from a young age by both the party and their parents.
draft kids who come from families with a gross income of $200,000 a year...and no one else!
this war would come to a screeching halt!!
Must..control..urge..to..bitchslap!
College Republicans are (choose your favorite):
1) Poster-children for forced sterilization.
2) Abortions gone wrong.
3) A logical fallacy.
4) Our future leaders.
I went to college with some of these people. They are the folks made fun of when younger and want revenge and power. They are the folks who never had the self reliance to think for themselves and not take on the political opinions of their elders.
Have an idea: wouldn't it make sense to make military service a pre-requisite to run for office?
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Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 13:
Gold! All of the above obv but if I had to choose it would be 3)
Little Bushies and Cheneys in the making. About the only excuse I didn't hear in this video for these fledgling chickenhawks not going to the front lines is:
"I would go fight but I would probably end up shooting a fellow US soldier in the face"
these youngsters have a valid excuse not to serve in iraq , its medical to be sure! first they all have shit in their blood , and the yellow streak down their backs would be a dead giveaway to the insurgents they are republicans, as a veteran i could spot these repigs a mile away from the brown stains that have formed on the seat of their suits after being asked to join up to help their brothers walking the streets of bagdad, my god its as if they have ingrown toenails imbedded in their assholes!
Ruthless People @ 16:
Indeed. They'd constantly need to be reminded that the insurgents are the guys with the ak-47s, not the elderly lawyer-type in the orange vest.
Rusty Shackleford @ 6:
It is far more #3 than anything else. To so fervently support the military actions over there yet fail to enlist means they are cowards and simply not people of strong conviction. It's easy to show up to a convention with free booze and loose women and talk tough, but real people put action to their ideas. Those kids are frauds.
Interesting how these cowardly conservatives look the same in their 20's, when they should be at their physical prime, as they do in their 40's. Soft, pudgy and pasty white. These fledgling chickenhawks aren't capable of holding a rifle let alone shoot one....unless they are shooting at a small pen raised bird that can't shoot back that is.
I wanna know where I can get one of those 'Draft College Republican' bumper stickers. Especially after watching all of the yellow-bellied weasels on Max's video.
Great video.
I didn't care for the ending though. The piece was brilliant when he let the repugs speak for themselves, but i found the "interpretive dance"/kung fu moves to be just as silly and (oddly disruptive). I think Max is great but he was best when he was off camera.
incredible and very disturbing
raincntry @ 19:
I have to go with #3 also. Not so much #2 which would be more like masturbating to the latest boy band while bashing homosexuals.
Brilliant!!
I watched it....what a bunch of phoneys. They spout the party line, but when asked why they're not there.......well oh my, there's this reason and that reason. If I lived in the states, well lets just say that as someone from canada, I'll keep my opinion to myself
tyree @ 17:
Ingrown because they're inbred?
They are like as the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy describes the sales and marketing division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation:
"A bunch of mindless jerks who will be the first against the wall when a revolution comes."
Funny video but hardly a valid arguing point. I mean after all there are tens of thousands of young republicans who ARE in the military fighting for what they proport to believe.
humidhaney @ 14:
i dunno, humid haney. i find most the time they are the rich shits who have absolutely no grasp on reality because everything has always been handed to them and they were taught from birth that they and theirs were/are better than anyone else and that people who don't live in their classy subdivisions aren't fit to wipe their feet. i remember several from my high school class who went on to be college
turdsrepublicans.most of the kids who were picked on grew up to be genius computer wizards making tons of money, or generally more successful and happier than their snotty counterparts, either that or gay genius successful computer wizards with lots of friends in glamorous places...
The urge to cat-call these pissants is overwhelming:
Psss psss psss psss psss! Psss psss psss psss psss!
Here, puss puss puss! Here, pussy!
My personal favorite was the guy who had to pray for guidance as to whether he was gay or straight. He had to ask? I beleive it was Jesus' General who said, "If you've ever had another man's testicles resting on your chin, you're not fully committed to the heterosexual lifestyle."
i can now understand why these blood sucking military recruiters are so disheartened when they set up shop at colleges seeking more cannon fodder for bush, its easyer sucking in high school fools with no hopes of getting a higher education unless they join the coffin brigade the army runs!
btw humidhaney- nice site- i was born and raised and will forevah reside in NOLA dawlin!
So, apparently there's a Warrior class. Is that news to anyone? All the people who enlisted that I know of were either poor white trash or the ass-hole football players with a C- to D average who had no other inclination but to violence. Hopefully they have "I.E.D" written all over them.
It's better to have them fighting over there than to fight them here.
I'm so happy Jesus prevented that one guy from becoming gay.
He got a hard-on, prayed hard, then Jesus relieved him of his hard-on.
Blumenthal's video reminds me of a bizarre conversation that I had with my neighbor a few weeks ago. When I asked this very conservative woman why not one member of Bush's approximately 45 member family is fighting in Iraq, she suddenly shifted the conversation to say that her father and her husband should not have to fight in Iraq, even though I had inquired of Bush's family and not of hers. Super conservatives like my neighbor will use any excuse that they can find why either they or Bush's family should not have to share the burden of fighting alongside the poor and working classes in Iraq.
The best visual I can come up with for what it would be like if these fledgling chickenhawks were on the front lines after that first shell when off is to imagine Curly, Larry and Moe and the end of every 3 Stooges short running around hysterically clunking their heads into one another.
Ruthless People @ 20:
myiq2xu @ 31:
My guess is that the young man's prayers were not truthfully answered.
CLONES.
rekroc @ 35:
Jesus Garcia?
Don't these retarded C- students just make you wanna screech? They have pressed suits but empty minds; parroting lines they've been fed. And they are all religiously delusional and incapable of thought. These are the masses that drag down our civilization. Look stay in church all day if you have to; but stay the hell away from politics!
With so many of them having medical conditions I wonder if they are for Universal Health Care? A while back I took my elderly neighbor on Veterans Day to a restruant where the American Legion was providing free meal for the vets. It was interesting to hear my neighbor talk with some other WWII vets about having to lie about their age to be able to join because they were to young but they were fully behind the war and wanted to do their part for the country. If these young republicans are really as patriotic as they like to act they would join like Pat Tillman did. I'm sure there are a lot of young high school grads that don't have the luxury of there parents paying for college that support this war that are signing up why can't you. That's alright though because they will come back as Democrats and when they run for office against you they can turn to their service for this country and prove they are a real patriot and not just a yellow dog republican.
I want that bumper sticker badly! :)
Amazing little report that was!
OH, would I love to grab a group of these pinheads at random and do an American variation on Battle Royale!
Individually they were funny as hell. Early in the video when the guy in the white t-shirt said he might enlist if he didn't become a great or good speaker. I think he can give up on that idea. He is great at only one thing, denial.
The guy chewing gum with his mouth open while talking was priceless.
I agree the last part with the dancing was strange.
Maybe the people in Iraq would have had something to say about our bringing our war to their front yard and fighting "them over there, rather than over here".
hayduke @ 41:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrGf7KsGsck&mode=related&search=
Hope y'all have better luck with the video than I did.
Anyone notice how fat the male repugs looked. I know the camera puts on 5lbs. But OMG.
Great video. Do you guys really think, though, that in order to support a war, you must be serving or have served in it? That seems like a very strict standard for participation in the debate. If, for example, someone argued that all publicly funded fire departments should be disbanded, surely I would be able to advocate a position supporting the existence of fire departments even if I had no intention to join their ranks.
Am I missing the point?
Art Snob @ 46:
hey! :O
they aren't pinheads if billo approves of their general mantra, which rest assured he does.
Nick, I think the point is that these particular ill informed kids were gung ho for war just as long as someone else was fighting and dying in it. I don't recall any of them saying we support our troops. Maybe I missed it. They do support the troops as long as the troops do not include them.
be afraid be very afraid , these pukes are just the tip of the iceburg, if ever democracy is restored to this country these same pieces of shit will be waiting in the wings to spread their venom once again over this land , they must be stamped out their wealth their priveleges taken away and be forced to live off the same food stamps and given first dibs on liveing quarters under bridges just like they would have us do, as a novelist once said beware the bitch that spawned these cretins for shes alive and well and is back in heat!!!!
debaser71 @ 28:
True. There are 2 types of Republicans. (1) Those Republicans who believed the propaganda and lies of why we are over in Iraq and go over their to fight for the interests of Halliburton....or who got over there, wised up and are now stuck. (2) those Republicans who know better, who promote the propaganda and lies but are too cowardly to go themselves or to send their own kids instead promote sending the former in their places. At least the former are putting their lives on the line for what they believe or what they believed at the time and I respect that, the latter are cowards and the lowest of the low for promoting war and sending others to fight yet refuse to fight themselves.
sh@dow @ 38
Yes, this would be an interesting topic, but it's not nearly as fun as watching a video and laughing.
I'm often reminded of the sinking of the Titanic when I think about the decline of America, Inc. On the doomed boat, the band may have merely played on, but in this doomed corporation we call the USofA, everybody just sits and giggles.
We're laughing ourselves into oblivion and seemingly enjoying it.
Put your money where your mouth is
Put your body where your war is
I agree, Tyree.
These are the future Monica Goodlings and Sara Taylors.
Or the future heads of your local school board or utility commission.
The horror! the horror!
"I have asthma so I can't go to the Military"
My kid brother has asthma as a kid and he's a blue belt in
Taekwondo he's more tougher and can outrun all of those College Republican cowards.
I think the reason they make up all these reason to not go to the military is very obious : When they are in the first day of basic training of any military branch they will constantly s*it their pants and see rivers of urine flowing from their pants and be so easily intimidated by the Drill Sargeant they wish they back in their privliged life back home.
Such cowards!!
If they did have the balls to enlist, each and every one would be a fragging casualty. Arrogant trust-fund assholes
The "interpretative dance" routine was just silly and really took away from the seriousness of the issue.
But, good grief, how many talking points can these kids regurgitate? Fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here? Well, then, what will be the reason to stay in Iraq when there's another terrorist incident on American soil?
As it has been stated many times previous; if the U.S. reinstated an honest and fair military draft, this war would end faster than a barber could give one of these silver-spooned punks a buzz cut.
That bumper sticker is great -- it really puts the chickenhawk hatchlings on notice.
Nick @ 50:
If part of your reasoning is that this is the battle for our generation, and that we must fight them there... Then it is a valid question to ask somebody with that kind of illogical support and rhetoric why they did not sign up.
Priceless...These people are clowns.
Digzzz @ 2:
Solution to this excuse:
Take out a hundred dollar bill and tell them that you will personally drive them down to Armed Forces Recruitment to enlist and if they get rejected the for medical purposes, you will give them $100.00.
If they decline, ask them if they are affrad to enlist because the millatary dosen't accept gays?
That was awesome! Although I am ashamed to see Penn State and Univ. of North Texas students... they are staining two fine schools.
Hey, where can I get one of those bumper stickers?
Nick @ 50.
Quick answers to your two questions:
1) Yes, I do.
2) Yes, you are.
Nick @ 50:
RE the fire department: If you advocate torching other people's houses, then yeah, you'd have some explaining to do.
sounds like a good idea, but you want to 'win' right? lying and backpedaling isn't exactly what the situation calls for.
That makes sense. But wouldn't their reply be that the "battle for our generation" will be lost not because of a deficiency of troops, but by withdrawing the military altogether? Their position isn't that we need more troops to win, but that we need to sustain our current presence over there.
Nick @ 50:
Yes, I think so. That's a very poor analogy.
The Republicans are framing this debate as if the Iraq War is being waged to protect all of us at home. You know the schtick: We're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here (who gives a crap about the Iraqi civilians...), and if we withdraw, they'll follow us home. In other words, this war is to prevent all of us from being killed by terrorists. That's how they justify the exorbitant costs in both American lives and money.
Now let's go back to your fire department analogy. Let's say you believe that a forest fire is going to spread nation-wide and that's why we must send thousands of firefighters directly into the fire to die horribly and we must continue doing so for 10 years or more... These firefighters are forced to exhaust themselves and neglect their families, jobs, etc. and the fire department is having a lot of trouble getting new recruits. Well, don't you think you should be willing to get yourself trained and protect your country along with the brave firefighters who are dying every day? How the hell do you justify going merrily along with your own life while so many others are getting slaughtered for something you believe in so strongly?
Conclusion: You really don't think the fire is ever going to reach you, or you're a coward of the worst kind.
I thought the interpretive dance at the end was funny (hippy prankster) I think he's saying: The college republicans are doing something absurd here... I think I will join in.
OMG the 'guy who isn't raelly gay' was the greatest. I actually felt sorry for him. He doesn't belong amoungst those other souless jackasses. He seemed dim-witted and easily lead, but otherwise a sweetheart. He can be saved. The rest of the lot have fang smiles.
RE: rekroc @ 70
Nice analysis. Thanks.
Tom Delay is a despicable human being.
the interpretive dance thing was stupid and made him seem like an a-hole. The rest was pretty funny. It's not a completely valid argument in that you can certainly have an opinion on the war and not serve. But when you start saying things like "America doesn't have the stomach for war", etc., that's pushin it.
Part of me wants them to re-implement the draft so the country will wake up and start protesting en mass. won't happen though...
I am now going to do some reasearch to see if the founding fathers ever had these types in mind when they were considering what kind of country we should be. These people are a real danger to our democracy. we really need to revamp the teaching of history and civics in this country, because they were right, "we are more active than the democrats on campus, which makes up for the difference in numbers..." if you try to teach people that the sky is blue, and provide a reasoned, impartial, and unemotional argument as to why that is, most people will agree. But if someone else is angrily yelling at you saying that the sky is purple, a small percentage of people are predisposed by their upbringing and life experience to believe what you are saying regarless of the merits or factual basis. These people are motivated by fear of the unknown, and they work very hard to preserve what they "know" to be true. People should be educated early in the history and basic facts about our goverment. This will help to thin out the ranks of college republicans.
Why are Republicans so secretive? Don't they have the strength of their convictions to withstand scrutiny?
Maybe, in their hearts, they know they are two-faced,cowardly bigots.
Does Moon own all Sheraton's or just that one in the video?
I want that bumper sticker. Also, I am very releaved that that
gaytotally hetero kidspanked one outprayed to teh Jebus, and was relieved of hislust for man seximpure thoughts.Nick @ 70:
You need troops to fight a war. Thousands of our soldiers are dead. Many thousands more are maimed. The ones who are fighting are being pushed beyond reasonable limits.
If you want to argue that we don't have a troop deficiency, you're certainly entitled to that delusion.
Nick @ 50:
Are you asking firefighter to give their lives for you?
How many firefighters do you want to die, so you don't have to fight fires?
Do you want firefighters to kill other people for your beliefs?
Firefighters protect lives and property, soldiers destroy lives and property.
Is killing a fire as morally wrong as killing a human being?
As I see it, wars are morally and ethically wrong. Though there may be moral arguments for joining in a war, for defense or to defend allies, the war as a whole is still wrong.
I think its a far cry from saying I want firefighters to protect our community against fires and saying I want me fellow citizens to slaughter other people in other lands, destroy their homes and possiblly be killed or maimed in the process.
Bud @ 66:
Huh?
Yeah, when I think of quality places of higher learning and intellectual stimulation, I immediately cast my sights on the middle of Pennsylvania (my state) and the northern part of Texas.
RickinSF @ 40:
This kid probably really hates himself, and I almost feel sorry for him because of it.... but not quite.
wow. really roll this quote around in your head:
do they get any more despicable than tom fcking delay?
unfortunately, though it doesn't seem possible, yes, yes they do...
From the t-shirt wearing Max Kues:
If, somehow, I become a really, like, good, like, speaker, and stuff like that...
Yeah, sure!
debaser71 @ 28:
And what is the source of this information or is this just more right wing Bushit
jay @ 77:
Perhaps this is why the Republican Party has been trying to kill public schools for so long.
An educated and aware populace is the death of the Conservative/Republican politics of fear and lies.
debaser71 @ 28:
Exactly. think if this war was actually legit... There would be tens of thousands of active supporters that would rather not enlist. There's two types of people in this world. :P Those who can kill other people and those who can't. And that's okay...I feel there's always alternatives to fighting a psychical war in many cases. Unless that is (like WWII and Hitler) they just won't have it any other way. But Al Kida...OBL, arab fundy groups are NOT in it for blood, they're in it because the walls are pushing in around them...they are simply defending themselves. The funniest thing about the video is what if they actually knew that the people we are fighting now had NOTHING to do with 9/11 George's even said that...what would they say....uhhhhhh fucking nothing that's what and they'd probably go back to turning a deaf ear and blind eyes to what's going on now because they're too stupid and scared. Personally I believe war in general, especially now, is outdated, savage and wrong in MOST cases. But you have to realize this is NOT a war. People keep saying that, but we have NOT declared war on anyone. This is a Arab GENOCIDE in the making and that's all it is. We are there to occupy land and eventually seize the resources and reclaim Israel for a bunch of ridiculously rich fundy fuckheads on both sides of the ocean...THATS WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO REALIZE....goddamn it makes me sick. nice try dude, but get better educated and ask the right questions....LOVE the bumper sticker tho, where can I get one?
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Outstanding!
I really like the young man (Max Kues) in the T-shirt who knows for a fact he is not Gay, and that he can't join the war effort because, "if I somehow become a like really good like speaker, stuff like that..." His sharp grasp of grammar and sentence structure has him off to a good start emulating his current favorite president. They all had their good ole' Neo-boy excuses and it really makes me wish I was young and in college again so I could chastise these people properly and daily.
Way to go Max!
"I wanna know where I can get one of those ‘Draft College Republican’ bumper stickers. "
Check out Cafepress.com. I haven't seen one there, but I'll probably design one and post it up there for sale. Check out my design "Darth Santorum"
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RE: Weaseldog @ 82-
I recognize the difference between a firefight and a war. However, the underlying point of my analogy was that you don't necessarily have to be directly involved in a cause in order to advocate for it. Another example a conservative might give is:
If your doctor wouldn't opt for surgery because he wouldn't want to deal with the year-long rehab, but he recommends it to you as the best course of action for x,y, z reasons, you'd still listen to the advice of your doctor, no? Or would you say "Well, *you* wouldn't opt for the surgery, so I'm going to say surgery is the wrong strategy!"
Again, that's assuming the warhawk has comparable expertise in his field to a doctor, which is a stretch.
Also, since I see this as a regional conflict and not a war of WWII variety, I'm more comfortable with someone taking a position in support of it without actually joining. But, as seen in the video, these kids compared it directly to WWII, and thus hurts their case.
I do think there is validity in what you (rekroc) and others are saying about our soldiers being stretched thin and how this fact weighs heavily in favor of those who want war supporters to back up their rhetoric with action (ie enlisting)
Nick @ 50:
Totally missed the point. The Repug brats want to keep sending people into a useless war but they dont want to fight it theirselves.
Those Christian academies really do a good job , just like the taliban scools
I also have to say something about Tom Delay's comment on abortion. ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MIND? 40,000,000 dead babies are the reason we have an immigration problem in this country? where'd he get those numbers anyways...that seems awfully high. Even so...what he's saying is abortion is wrong because all those bastard children to be could have been digging ditches, painting my house, and smoking my drugs...but instead now the illegal Mexicans have to do it???....what an asshole. Those extra 40,000,000 kids would be one or more of the following: 1) mentally handicapped 2) poor as shit 3) had severe health problems 4) foster kids 5) miserable 6) contaminated the gene pool from inbreeding. Well then maybe he's right, manual labor is all those kid would have been capable of doing...dammit.
Rand @ 94:
Why would we volunteer to fight a pointless war that we don't support? That would be stupid.
Rand @ 94:
Why haven't you enlisted yet, thumb-dick? Oh that's right....you're doing your 'part' and 'supporting the troops' by attacking us nasty liberals! Here I am, bitch! I served eight years in U.S. Army and I am as liberal as they come and so were most of the guys I served with. The officer corp was usually made up of fat-assed Republicans who joined because they loved to be saluted and treated special! If it wasn't for the non-coms, these commissioned assholes wouldn't have been able to find their own dicks in the dark!
Rand @ 90:
I don't understand your logic. Why the F#%K would someone who was anti-war join the military?
I do believe in my convictions which are anti-war.
I don't join the military because of those convictions.
My guess is that you shack up with your sister and live in a trailer park. Right?
Rand @ 94:
and your reason for not fighting for bush would be what?????
Just another day in the good ole US of A! What, me worry?
These ego-bloated punks are the products of parents who raised them to take advantage of capable others. These are the future managers of multi-national corporations.
I've said it before: It takes a certain lack of mentality to be a republican. All of them make me puke.
Talk big...and carry a limp stick.
I want one of those bumper stickers!
Great commentary, Max.
Los Populisto @ 11:
AMEN! The draft will end this war and that is exactly why it has not been implemented. Watch the movie Sicko. In the movie it is said that in France, "the government is afraid of the people, in America the people are afraid of the government". How in God's name can we continue to tolerate this?
When are the American people going to stop blogging, stop posting gripes, and put their feet on the ground and start protesting this war?? Why isn't every Senator's and Representative's email and voicemail filled every second of every day with messages from all of US telling them to impeach Cheney and Bush??
My God people, stop talking and get walking. Organize protests in your area. Coordinate with Liberal radio to make it happen.
Take care and keep healthy.
Rand @ 94:
Get a clue, please. The majority of folks in the military joined because they thought it would be a good way to get training, an education, discipline, etc. And because they joined the military, they had no choice but to fight in this war.
It's pretty scary to think about what other nonsensical BS might be "obvious" to you.
WHO EVER THE SITE MONITOR IS I WANT TO THANK HIM/HER FOR DELETING THE ABOVE COMMENT... i was just on my way to set him/her/it straight...
in other news... its refreshing to hear and to see all of the young people stumbling upon their words when asked why not join... its beauteous to notice that all of the young female repugswere just way too happy to have a "HAWT" guy next to them that shares their convictions... and it was funny as hell to see the chunky dOOd get bent out of shape becuase the chick in the red dress said basically Gawd made adam and eve and not adam and steve and chunky dOOd was all like "OMG I CANT BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!.....i prayed a lot to Gawd and i am officially not GAY"
wow must have hit him below the belt (all puns intended) for him to flip out like that...
amazing that they were eager to take advice from criminals like Tom Delay...
amazing that any kind of media would be cast out of a function... REGARDLESS of their political standing...
only in America land of the .... umm ... i thought it was free but i dont know WTF it is now...
Nick @ 95:
Rand @ 90:
I think it is fundamentally wrong to ask other people to kill and die for a cause you don't believe in enough, that you won't do the same yourself.
If they truely believed in this war, I believe they would've signed up.
My oldest nephew believed in it, and he's in Baghdad now. He's been injured in one IED attack already.
I don't believe in this war and I want to bring him home. If these young men and women really do believe in the war, then I'd like to see them prove it, by joining up so my nephew can at least come home once in a while.
These College Republicans are just paying the war lip service. I don't believe they have any real commitment or actually believe what they are saying.
I understand stand what you are saying, but when it comes to asking people to slaughter other people for you, then I think we're entering a completely different realm of argumentation.
Brilliant video. God that was good. Thanks for making a soldier smile watching those chicken shit peckerwoods squirm.
I've Googled and contacted the ministry Max Kues (the self-hating gay in the video) is a member of. Needless to say, he will be getting lots of counseling soon. I expect him to be dead a year from now. LOL
The tall guy in the red shirt is most definitely gay.
(I know, because my gaydar picked it up immediately)
We don't really want more gay republicans,
so I think he should be sent to reparative therapy.
pinhead @ 85:
exactly ,if they had been born they would have just been more victims of shitheads like these little gutless pukes that will work in their daddys sweat shops for peanuts, like the illeagles do, no wonder the scumbags in the repig party deplores abortion its a loss of profits for them!
Amazing...even at this age, all these idiots can do is talk about gays, abortion, 'supporting the troops' by doing ANYTHING but actually enlisting and helping them fight and possibly bring this disaster to an earlier conclusion!
The fact that they actually sit there, listening with respect and reverence to a complete doushbag and criminal like Tom Delay says right there, these little bastards are scum!
C_T @ 111:
LOL! You picked up on that too, huh? He was probably there secretly representing the Log Cabin Republicans...not to be confused, of course, in any way with 'Jews for Hitler.'
These guys shit themselves at the sight of anyone who looks slightly Arab. Can you imagine them confronting a bona fide insurgent? Their rectums wouldn't be able to handle the throughput of shit into the pants.
C_T @ 111:
To fix teh gay or teh republican?
I've known a lot of these milquetoast repig cowards. And the biggest joke of it is that the vast majority were in ROTC in high school so they wouldn't have to take phys ed!
They really do mean it though when they parrot the "fight them over there" talking point. The thought of having to step up and actually get involved in a fight for their own survival gives them a major case of the heebie jeebies.
They do the work americans wont do that cheap. Slavery is over Delay.
I'm not inclined to make it a requirement that you be in the military prior to running for public office (specifically for those who would be in the position to enact war, fund war or have any legal ability to further the cause of war) but in the future I will personally look at a military record with much more intensity. It seems to me that those who have gone through it may be less inclined to romanticize war and possibly more cautious about getting us into war. I would also look to future presidential candidates who would be willing to enact a more egalitarian approach to military service.
Yeah, ditto on the red shirt guy being gay. I like how he tried to pass off "school" as being the reason he's not a soldier. LOL
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If you truly believe that this war is that important and you do not enlist to serve then what kind of man are you, really?
Rand @ 121:
Lol - f*** you f****t
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We gotta stop this little chickens, before they mature into Bad Deciders!
being old has its disadvantages one disadvantage is most of my freinds are dead , so im left with just a few who i visit , one of them i go to see on sundays is a nascar freak he sits there for hours watching thoes cars circle round and round , when i can get him in a conversation i talk about all the shit cheny bush have caused ,all i gets the same arguments i hear on this site from fox news, then his daughters come over and we talk and what comes out of their pie holes is the same misinformation that their dad feeds them , and when i tell them their were no iraqys that hit us on 911 they sputter and fume that well they would have attacked us if they could have, and all thoes ragheads should be killed, ive tried to reason with them and i must be getting thru a little bit, at least the girls say they arent voteing anymore and the old man says he might have voted for edwards next election but somewhere he heard edwards paid 1600 for a haircut , lord save us !
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Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 83:
OIS @ 83
I never said Pennsyltucky or (north) Texas were stimulating areas. But both schools were - at least to me. I still think PSU was great - but State College sucked eggs. Same with UNT and Denton.
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Nick @ 71:
That doesn't answer the basic question: Why aren't these cowards in uniform if "we need to sustain our current presence there"? Don't try to twist this, Nick. These are overpriveleged cowards who think that it's poor and working-class kids' destiny to shed their blood in pointless wars. And they say Liberals are "elitist"? Fuck all of them!
"Unfortunately...". Oh no....., your misfortunes have ended GOPer, Jr's! Haven't you heard that the Pentagram has seriously relaxed their medical standards? Why, they're even allowing you to go back into combat when you haven't even recovered from from your last wounds. Asthma? Not to worry. they'll take you medical condition, tattoos, criminal record... whatever you bring to the table with you.
Inside of every Republican is a coward (at least that coward shares good company with the inner thief , the inner liar, the inner predator, the inner sociopath, the inner would-be murderer).
War on campus, GOPer, Jr's?. I don't think so. You'll know when a war on campus has erupted, because there'll be people shooting at you.
Rand @ 129:
Really? That's nice :)
gene214 @ 130:
in reality these pukes if they were to join would only be a hazzard to the real soldiers because they useually make these turds officers , wich means the real troopers are just packing this useless pricks on their backs, till they make enough rank to set in the green zone and count beans and someday make general from wasteing their troops say assholes like betrayus!
Rusty Shackleford @ 6:
I'd actually go with hidden answer #4: A lot of people like this (active in CR) think of the world differently. They're the "brains"; they do the thinking and the planning. The others (read, you and I) are the "brawn"; they are the ones who do the actual work. They don't enlist because they think that they're more important and more useful here at home, fighting with speeches and OpEds.
Wow, who would have thunk that most republicans are too chicken to go fight them over their...hell ask any republican and they'll tell you "that's what poor people are for" - So to any republican who is reading this blog - either put up or shut up becuase you are not fighting them over there, your sitting here too scared to sign up, but then when you hear of the hard ships of the real patriots who are fighting over there you say "well, that's what they signed up for" - Oh how I hate you peice of shit republicans!
I can't go to Iraq because.......uhmm,........uhh,...... 'cause I gotta go see a man about a dog.
Another point the republicans like to make is that the "War on Terror" with islamic fascism is World War III. If I recall correctly, and I think others have pointed out above, the young men of the great generation did everything they could to get into the fight after Pearl Harbor.
The one idea that Dennis Miller has right is the idea that shunning (sp?) should be brought back into vogue. I think these chicken-hawks should be shunned. If you know a fighting age chicken-hawk, shun him/her...
Buckley @ 74:
I agree. Also the second stud that spoke early in the video reminded me of Mitt Romney. Trying to deepen his voice and seem all sophisticated. What a nitwit!. Sickening! Truly these are America's finest. Also the girls, these are valley girls. The future Kay Baily Hutchison's and Susan Collins.
Great video. Do you guys really think, though, that in order to support a war, you must be serving or have served in it?
Yes. If they decided to disband the fire departments, the lives of firemen aren't at stake.
The difference here is that this was is not about a clear and present danger to the US the way the Axis powers were. It has been amply proved that the war was unnecessary. And the soldiers that are fighting are staying in Iraq longer and longer, and going back more and more frequently. There is a desperate shortage of people to fight the war. So, if young able bodied people are convinced it's the right thing to do, they are obliged to join, to relieve the people doing the fighting for them.
I still think that the continuation of the war should be contingent on Bush's daughters going there to serve now and not being allowed to leave until it is over.
They don't have "Draft College Republicans" ...yet, but WhiteHouse.org does have some fun bumper stickers of the same tone.
I guess I'm the odd-man-out here, but I find Blumenthal's stuff smirky, dismissive, and full of cheap shots. Also: unoriginal. He stole the idea here from Michael Moore, who did a hell of a lot more with it in Fahrenheit 9/11 (remember Moore & Army friend handing out recruitment pamphlets to strangely retiscent Congressers?). Even Blumenthal's narration voice is creepy.
This sort of smart-ass satire has a history of backfiring, and requires a far lighter touch.
Where did they find these people and why did they send them here? I could write for hours, but it does no good and would not change the mind of one of these cult members.
For those who are wondering about the Max Blumenthal interpretive dance...........at that point he knew he was going to have to make an exit,however he would only exit on his terms.
He knew how they think, and the mini-repugs played right into his hands.
These young repugs have no legitimate excuses for not serving.
Solid piece of work Max!
cynic @ 141:
What's cheaper? The punches, or the Repukes' responses?
And you're whining about it being unoriginal? What are you? The political fashion police? Education isn't supposed to be about originality, its about getting the message across first and foremost. If the message is repeated, that just means there are people who haven't learned it the first time.
cynic @ 141:
Yeah, and reich-wingers are NEVER smirky, dismissive, and full of cheap shots. Jebus.
cynic @ 141:
What "history" is that?
Oh shadow...I 'm sorry if I made it sound as if I had the definitive answer. You're right...by my comment, McCain should be a good candidate (when in fact, I'm sure its to our benefit that his campaign is unraveling and he's ready to self-destruct). I'm just putting forth the idea that MAYBE.....in general those who have actually fought might be a little less likely to get us embroiled in this mess. Or maybe what we should look for are those individuals who could have gone (should have) but bent heaven and earth to avoid going. Didn't Cheney have his enlistment deferred 5-6 times?
Zenrage @ 144:
No kidding.....and I guess being "original" is EVERY reich-winger in that clip claiming we "are fighting them over there so we don't fight them here". LOL.
baby jesus is excited about this video, this means many more years of mindless followers and more money pouring into baby jesus
baby jesus needs these people at home and not dying to feed coffers
baby jesus is worried some of those kids are too dumb to make money, but they will be hired by some good Republican or christian company
mike @ 44 @ 137:
Great idea: I have for several years now completely cut off my Repug neighbors, I have told them in no uncertain terms that I think they are cowardly for saying they support the war but never even thinking of actually fighting it. also I hang signs in my front window and out front of my house telling them how unAmerican they all are. And to top it off I don't invite them to anything going on at my place, without any concern for their fragile feelings, I just believe that if you hate America then you really should not be allowed in my All American Home! I certainly wouldn't step foot into their Fascist homes, even if I was invited.
The "inclinations" guy is so fabulously gay.
I believe this story, of who we send to fight our wars, is the biggest story of our time... far bigger than the Iraq war. It gets down to the core of how purely evil some people really are and can be.
I am a chicken... I don't have the courage to fight a war... but I have more courage than any of those college republican assholes... cause at least I can admit I'm a chicken. they can't even admit that.
"oh, my aching back... I guess I can't go fight in Iraq in Bush's glorious war... maybe you idiots should go instead..."
And Tom Delay is the biggest queen on the planet. Hello Frisco!!
Would it be so bad if there next convention were in a hotel built over some poorly maintained steam pipes.
Nothing serious, just some singed eyebrows and some soiled tighty-whities.
If you believe in this so-called war then you should be there fighting it. Those punk rich kids haven't got a clue to what they are talking about. I feel like part of this country is as stupid as it gets. Too afraid to face the real reason we are there even though it affects us all every single day of our lives.
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