Bush Avoids making a pledge in the Pat Tillman investigation

bush-presser-tilman.jpg Ed Henry asked Bush if he would make a pledge to get to the bottom of the sordid tale of Pat Tillman's death in today's presser. Bush avoided making a pledge and couldn't even remember when he first heard about the Pat Tillman cover-up. Have we forgotten that he was called "worm dirt?"

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And they ask us to blindly believe everything a man in uniform says with orders from their superiors...Supporting the troops in battle and in health is of paramount importance to all of us, but the Pat Tillman saga exposed the lies that the highest ranking generals were willing to commit in order to cover up the heroic Pat Tillman. A reporter should have followed up by asking Bush why they are using executive privilege over the Tillman documents.

Transcript: Q Thank you, Mr. President. You speak often about taking care of the troops and honoring their sacrifice. But the family of Corporal Pat Tillman believes there was a cover up regarding his death, and some say perhaps he was even murdered, instead of just friendly fire. At a hearing last week on Capitol Hill your former Defense Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, other officials used some version of "I don't recall" 82 times. When it was his term to step up, Pat Tillman gave up a lucrative NFL career, served his country and paid the ultimate sacrifice. Now you have a chance to pledge to the family that your government, your administration will finally get to the bottom of it. Can you make that pledge to the family today, that you'll finally, after seven investigations, find out what really happened?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, first of all, I can understand why Pat Tillman's family, you know, has got significant emotions, because a man they loved and respected was killed while he was serving his country. I always admired the fact that a person who was relatively comfortable in life would be willing to take off one uniform and put on another to defend America. And the best way to honor that commitment of his is to find out the truth. And I'm confident the Defense Department wants to find out the truth, too, and we'll lay it out for the Tillman family to know.

Q But, Mr. President, there have been seven investigations and the Pentagon has not gotten to the bottom of it. Can you also tell us when you, personally, found out that it was not enemy fire, that it was friendly fire?

THE PRESIDENT: I can't give you the precise moment. But obviously the minute I heard that the facts that people believed were true were not true, that I expect there to be a full investigation and get to the bottom of it.



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Must be the memory loss due to lyme disease. I reckon half the Bush Administration was bit by the same tick.

This should be a form of treason.

Read Stan Cox today on Counterpunch.org

Unconscionsionable (sp?)... "A man they loved"... he was their brother and son, President A$$hat!

WTF?! is that Chimp smokin'?

The "worm dirt" crack never bothered me so much, accept for the fact that the asshole who made the crack was attemptin' to claim that atheists are morally bankrupt. Yeah, we all die and the molecules that compose our bodies are returned to the universe. Even many Christian burials rites include the "Ashes to ashes, dust to dust," acknowledgement.

What that woman seems unable to perceive, though, is that Tillman's conciousness lives on in the lives of those he influenced in a postive way. And that's a lot more than can be said fer a little, negative pisant like her.

As fer Stupor Mundi's evasive answers today...Well, hell, if the investigation is gonna hit too close to Bushco, then, of course he's gonna dodge.

And the truth about wmds?
And the truth about Iraq's ties to 9/11?
And the truth about biological weapons?
And the truth about Jessica Lynch?
And the truth about uranium from Africa?
And the truth about the Plame leak?
And the truth about the attorney scandal?
And the truth about domestic spying?

Stan GOFF at Counterpunch.
Real lots of Stan Goff.

Happy NIXON RESIGNS Day to one and all !!!! (Remember, Nixon resigned in disgrace on August 9, 1974).

Someday soon, maybe, we'll have a Happy BUSH AND CHENEY RESIGN Day to celebrate, too !!!!

"But obviously the minute I heard that the facts that people believed were true were not true, that I expect there to be a full investigation and get to the bottom of it."

...

That's not an answer. That's not even English!

I despise the hypocrisy of self proclaimed Christians. A person is either with them, or opposed. Just like every other sorry ass excuse of a cult. Never used to feel this way, either, until the swine began subverting the Constitution.

This shit for brains couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it.

He is the poster boy for this website.

He is a Crook. He is a Liar.

He might be in over his head with this Tillman family. That Mom looks like she ain't gonna take his shit and this lady is smart.

jack jett

jack jett @ 11:

This shit for brains couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it.

He is the poster boy for this website.

He is a Crook. He is a Liar.

He might be in over his head with this Tillman family. That Mom looks like she ain't gonna take his shit and this lady is smart.

jack jett

Honest to God, I can't think of one thing that I can add to that!

If GWB were my son, I'd kill myself out of self respect.

Andy K @ 5:

The "worm dirt" crack never bothered me so much, accept for the fact that the asshole who made the crack was attemptin' to claim that atheists are morally bankrupt. Yeah, we all die and the molecules that compose our bodies are returned to the universe. Even many Christian burials rites include the "Ashes to ashes, dust to dust," acknowledgement.

What that woman seems unable to perceive, though, is that Tillman's conciousness lives on in the lives of those he influenced in a postive way. And that's a lot more than can be said fer a little, negative pisant like her.

As fer Stupor Mundi's evasive answers today...Well, hell, if the investigation is gonna hit too close to Bushco, then, of course he's gonna dodge.

Pardon me. The woman I was referrin; to(Kazlaurich) is a man. Shoulda reviewed the link, got a bit confused.

Unrelated, but okay, this is disturbing.

Australia's PM "vows to clean up the internet":

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22218929-421,00.html

Why can't these white house reprters have some collegiality, give up their pre-rehearsed questions when called upon, and follow up the previous reporter's question as a one-two team to defeat bushco's avoidance of the follow up?

when i think of a president i think of a respectable leader and a man of the people

i don't think of this picture above. look at him....he looks like he is in pain standing there. first of all because he finds consorting with the peons disgusting and secondly because he has to answer questions from these inferiors.

NEVER AGAIN

Just look at that face. (if you can) What a maroon. Dear god, how much longer.........

Tom Ivory @ 15:

Why can't these white house reprters have some collegiality, give up their pre-rehearsed questions when called upon, and follow up the previous reporter's question as a one-two team to defeat bushco's avoidance of the follow up?

Because they all have the idea that their own question is so much more important. That and the fact that if they veer off-track from the scripted questions a giant machine gun will pop out of the ceiling and strafe them all. Heh heh.

He barely cares about his own children, much less someone else's.

abarts @ 19:

He barely cares about his own children, much less someone else's.

In this respect, he is very like his mother.

he can't possibly know what they're feeling. His daughters dont serve and they're alive. He didn't serve either, so no, he really cant understand what they're going through.

Why would he make a pledge regarding justice when he knows he hasn't kept a single one yet.

There he is again with that stupid look on his face.

neil @ 24:

There he is again with that stupid look on his face.

This is your brain on drugs.

The Democrats in Congress need to press Bush on this. Tillman is only the tip of the iceberg on what is wrong with this phony War in Iraq and this phony War on Terrorism.

My god, why won't our Congress do something to defund this war!

I expect there to be a full investigation and get to the bottom of it.

He "expects?" Howzabout ordering one, considering YOU ARE THE COMMANDER GUY?

Jo @ 25:

neil @ 24:

There he is again with that stupid look on his face.

This is your brain on drugs.

Not drugs, kool-aid

So many new lows with this man that I can no longer keep track. WHY not pledge to investigate fully, unless you are hiding something? A real leader would have said that he won't go on vacation (again) until the Tillmans, and the American people, have an answer. As to Tom Ivory's question, the simple answer is the corporate media sucks at the teat of the establishment (Dem and GOP) and virtually never asks any questions of serious moment, because access and their careers are more important than journalism and the welfare of the public they ought to be serving. When are the American people going to figure out that neither political party has their interest in mind, and when will they realize that a corporate-run media cannot be relied on to provide the information and critical analysis that constitute the lifeblood of democracy?

When it comes to Tillman's death, I always say if the shooter could get a good enough aim to put three bullet's into Tillman's forehead, then he had to have been able to get a very, very good look at his target. No way was it dumb luck to hit someone directly in the forehaed three times, especially considering that Army Rangers are very well trained and capable troops.
I always have a hunch some Fox "News" reject decided to frag Tillman, and it's being covered up. Just look at the way Malkin and her right wing friends routinely frag our troops from their computer bunkers.

Anybody need a fundamental lesson on why this man is diagnosed as a sociopath need only listen to the extemporaneous part about why the Tillman family feels emotional about the loss of Pat. He honestly has no personal clue what loss of this magnitude feels like, and has to try to phrase it as a platitude.

We can sit around all we want and criticize Bush and criticize the Administration's handling of Tillman and the War, but WHEN THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD, like defunding the War, our Democrats in Congress are a bunch of chickens_ _s!

Tillman's family is anti War; the Nation is anti War; we're all anti War, so why oh why won't our Democrats in Congress just defund the war. They have the power to do that right now. There would be nothing to veto!

What a focking worm Bush is.

Bush may "look" stupid; but apparently he's smarter than us and smarter than the Democrats and the Democrats in Congress, because, with all that "stupidity" we're letting him get what he wants in this War!

What's the funniest show on television? The White House!

Milty @ 35:

Bush may "look" stupid; but apparently he's smarter than us and smarter than the Democrats and the Democrats in Congress, because, with all that "stupidity" we're letting him get what he wants in this War!

That smartness is Cheney's hand up his arse. Cheney has the hate going. Bush just wants to ride his bike or chop things up. And blow things up like the frogs he blew up when he was young.

Jo, OK, Bush, Cheney, or whoever, one way or the other they are outsmarting the Democrats and us on the War. (If it is Cheney, Bush is apparently smart enough to use Cheney to get the deed done.)

The point is, what's the point to blog about Tillman when we're all just sitting back and allowing Bush/Cheney to perpetuate this phony war, and our Democratic majority Congresss, elected to stop it, does absolutely nothing but pass meaningless resolutions, as they won't simply defund the War so we would have no more Tillman's.

I love Bush's facial expressions during a press conference. It looks like he's swallowing bile as the reporter asks his question.

WR @ 21:

he can't possibly know what they're feeling. His daughters dont serve and they're alive. He didn't serve either, so no, he really cant understand what they're going through.

Yeah, but you know no one suffers more than he and Laura do when a soldier dies. Except, of course, the soldiers spouse, mom, dad, siblings, children, friends, neighbors and co-workers. Not only does he have no idea what these people are going through every day, he just does not care. They are just numbers, a comma in history.

Personally, I hope the Tillman family hounds him to the grave, from what I have read about Pat Tillman and his family they are not quitters and they will get the answers they seek and they deserve. The tragic part is how many average Joes families will never get the truth about their loved ones deaths because they do not have the name recognition of a famous NFL star. Every family that loses a loved one deserves to get nothing but the truth from the military about what happened, the government owes them at least that much.

OMG, OUR FUCKING PRESIDENT IS A GODDAMNED MORON! HOW CAN SOMEONE BE SO VAPID, SO COMPLETELY EMPTY, SO GODDAMNED INNANE? SO GODDAMNED STUPID? HOLY SHIT!

Hype, Bush may be a stupid moron like you say, but what does that say about the Democrats in Congress who won't simply defund the war -- so the "stupid" "moronic" Bush gets what he wants.

Seems he's outsmarting the rest!

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"THE PRESIDENT: Well, first of all, I can understand why Pat Tillman’s family, you know, has got significant emotions, because a man they loved and respected was killed while he was serving his country."

Ya think?

Holy shit! I cannot believe that this is our fucking president speaking! This sounds like something you'd expect from a goddamned 8th grader who just learned the meaning of "significant." This man just wasted 30-some-odd words. He wasted breath. He's a goddamned waste of space. Someone give this clueless fucker a bottle of gin and let him toodle back to Texas. I hear a village there is missing a goddamned idiot.

AGGAHHGAHH Must not .... revolt ...

Milty Says @ 42: Seems he’s outsmarting the rest!

No, he's outsmarting the stupid. And anyone who voted for him, is more of a moron than he is.

Hype, I wish you were right, but that would mean all the Democrats we elected to Congress to end the war are the morons because they simply will not defund the war, which they can do right no -- nothing for Bush to veto!

that's defund "right now"

" I always admired the fact that a person who was relatively comfortable in life would be willing to take off one uniform and put on another to defend America ", The President.

That is why almost all of his administration is non military, Deferments, or 4F's.

This man doesn't admire something he and his most trusted did not and could not do out of fear for their own lives.

It has been fear that has been the driving force of this presidency. It is not just having fears. It is how one confronts and deals with those fears with actions to follow. They are still acting in fear without once confronting the fears. So their actions are irrationally concluded from overwhelming un-faced fear. That is why the secrecy, the snaking around law, the covering up, blaming others, the bragging of the "Commander Guy" as he reminds us he is the "Decider", "Protector", And "War President". Trying to convince us and himself he is not afraid. Without confronting his fear(s).

Robt, apparently the Democrats in Congress have fear as well -- fear to defund the war!

F*&K him...What a pile of excrement we have as the leader of the formerly known as the free world.He is the poster child for bald faced corruption and lies.And I can go on and on in these comments and others like them to no avail beyond sharing my frustration with like minded readers and lurkers alike.
Lets mobilize in a big way.
Something's coming...I've had about enough.

th'rev, what exactly is coming?

I keep praying the Bush will turn out to be a Lex Luthor type evil genius who was just pretending to be a incompetent half-wit goober.

At least that wouldn't be as embarrassing as reality.

myiq, looks to me that Bush is more the "evil genius" than the "stupid moron", if the measure is getting what HE wants; and apparently he's outsmarted the Dems, because this war will continue.

myiq, and it is a clever move to look dumber than your mark!

Milty @ 53:

myiq, looks to me that Bush is more the "evil genius" than the "stupid moron", if the measure is getting what HE wants; and apparently he's outsmarted the Dems, because this war will continue.

Naw, he didn't outsmart them. If brains were dynamite Bush couldn't blow his nose.

The dems are just pussies.

Bush keeps his critics at bay be appearing to be stupid; meantime he runs around the rear and gets to perpetuate his phony war, and the Democrats, the elected majority in Congress, do not defund this phony war!

So, who is more stupid? Bush or the Democrats? The answer, sadly to say, is the Dems. We need better!

myiq, OK the Dems are pussies.

Either way, Bush wins!

Or, put it another way, Bush is apparently smart enough to at least know that the Dems would all be pussies.

ouch.

so how do you think he'll react when black friday comes around and the market
drops well into the double digits? i of course am just speculating..... but i think he'll say
the american economy is strong.

there's no level of criminality the junta won't try to cover up while they feed culture war Soma to the rightie bloggers

careful, yah, that appears to be a chance for the Dems, if the market would keep dropping, but, unfortunately with the market in the 13,000-14,000 range, on a percentage basis, a several hundred point up or down day is not so much a big deal anymore.

"Significant emotions"

You moronic sonofabitch. Word of the Day toilet paper is no way to boost your vocabulary. Words MEAN things, you chimp.

Ugh. I hate these people.

jack jett @ 11:

This shit for brains couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it.

He is the poster boy for this website.

He is a Crook. He is a Liar.

He might be in over his head with this Tillman family. That Mom looks like she ain't gonna take his shit and this lady is smart.

jack jett

Damn, I was going to say the same thing about Chimpy being able to tell the truth but you beat me to the punch. Of course I seriously doubt that Chimpy would know what the word truth even means. Too much thought process for him.

And you are right about Tillman's mom. She's about ready to eat his lunch and dinner too.

OK, if it feels good to laugh at Bush over not being able to handle Tillman's family, fine. Meantime, Bush can laugh at all of us Dems for not getting our Congresspeople to defund the war.

What a fucking dope.

Milty, on your #49,

Well I'm not so sure myself if it was fear. temporary Political rash positioning, more like it.

Defunding at the time when it was just approved for Petreaus to be sent in, would have been worse nonsense. Lets see what happens in Sept. That showdown will tell us about Fear, lies, and war profiteering..........Can you wait? Thing's don't move fast enough for you and me in Washihgton for me either.

Milty @ 58:

Or, put it another way, Bush is apparently smart enough to at least know that the Dems would all be pussies.

Not "all," just "enough."

Until the next election.

Milty Says @58: Or, put it another way, Bush is apparently smart enough to at least know that the Dems would all be pussies.

No - he's dumber than a bag of rocks. He's a tool for smarter minds who run big bidness and they picked him precisely because he's too fucking stupid to know how stupid he is. The man actually thinks he's brilliant. If you believe that he is smart enough to outwit a carrot, you're just as bad off as he is.

And milty,
" Meantime, Bush can laugh at all of us Dems for not getting our Congresspeople to defund the war."

But I have a republican as congressman and seantor. My red core congressman has tree rot at at his brain's stem. Now My republican senator has been calling for redirection from the beginning. This Senator has actually said, " Impeaching the President is one way to stop this madness".
who might that be?

Please, somebody in the White House give us a courtesy flush. The stench is unbearable.

myiq, I agree, it's all about the next election, and, from that comes the fear of why the Democrats will not defund the war. They fear that it would be politically suicidal. So, again, the next election is the exact reason apparently they won't defund the war -- so what good are they?

And, what chance do we have to get this war defunded, now, or later?

Sad to say, the only way we can turn things around and have a real chance of defunding the war, politically, now or after the next election, is if things go badly for the USA in Iraq.

Milty @ 73:

Sad to say, the only way we can turn things around and have a real chance of defunding the war, politically, now or after the next election, is if things go badly for the USA in Iraq.

Yeah, good thing that everythings going great so far, huh?

Hype-Jersey @ 69:

Milty Says @58: Or, put it another way, Bush is apparently smart enough to at least know that the Dems would all be pussies.

No - he's dumber than a bag of rocks. He's a tool for smarter minds who run big bidness and they picked him precisely because he's too fucking stupid to know how stupid he is. The man actually thinks he's brilliant. If you believe that he is smart enough to outwit a carrot, you're just as bad off as he is.

An absolutely bang-on brilliant typecasting of the Deciderer. The man's an a$$hat!

Milty,
I have a confession for you.

If I was convinced that Iraq can be turned around in 6 breathful months, Six months ago. I would be very hesitant and suspicious. But if convinced after all spend and killed. move the goal posts back 6 months and leave thse peoples lives iwith some sort of chance. After we made life worse than living under Saddamm's rule. I might give the six months.

Its just that I am not desperate enough to bite into it as to taste this. Other words I'm not gullible enough to move GW's goal posts(whatever &whereever they are) for another 6 months after these last several years! I think the french word for cat may not apply.....

Bottom line, we need more bad news and deaths coming out of Iraq to build up the domestic political base so the Dems will not fear defunding the war.

C&L needs to get the word out more on bad news; no need to focus on any good news from Iraq. That would seem to be counter-productive.

In the same vein, let's hope the stock market keeps dropping and dropping; it will greatly help our chances of getting Democrats elected.

Milty @ 77:

Bottom line, we need more bad news and deaths coming out of Iraq to build up the domestic political base so the Dems will not fear defunding the war.

C&L needs to get the word out more on bad news; no need to focus on any good news from Iraq. That would seem to be counter-productive.

In the same vein, let's hope the stock market keeps dropping and dropping; it will greatly help our chances of getting Democrats elected.

I'd rather see the Republicans sweep the 08 election than see it get worse than it is.

myiq2xu @ 78:

Milty @ 77:

Bottom line, we need more bad news and deaths coming out of Iraq to build up the domestic political base so the Dems will not fear defunding the war.

C&L needs to get the word out more on bad news; no need to focus on any good news from Iraq. That would seem to be counter-productive.

In the same vein, let's hope the stock market keeps dropping and dropping; it will greatly help our chances of getting Democrats elected.

I'd rather see the Republicans sweep the 08 election than see it get worse than it is.

But thanks for your concern

Our President said this today at his news conference:
"I've always admired the fact that a person who was relatively comfortable in life would take off one uniform and put on another who who defend America."

Relatively comfortable in life. So there it is--an unwitting admission that Bush never expected any person of means or education or standing to actually fight in his war.

Shame on him and shame on us for letting him get away with this arrogant elitist crap.

myiq, that's the problem, it doesn't seem to be getting worse. It seems to be getting better, at least from what I've been reading and seeing on TV lately.

Or is the media in the pockets of Bush and company as well, spreading disinformation?

Bush 43 just lied -- live on camera -- when he tried to avoided answering when he found out about the truth. Anybody who's done psychology 101 can see that from his physical reaction. This is exactly why he's exercising his executive privileges to block the release of some incriminating documents.

jack jett @ 11:

This shit for brains couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it.

He is the poster boy for this website.

He is a Crook. He is a Liar.

He might be in over his head with this Tillman family. That Mom looks like she ain't gonna take his shit and this lady is smart.

jack jett

Not just a liar Jack, a pathological liar.

Who knows, the Tillman scandal could turn out to be the catalyst in the unraveling of the Bush/Cheney criminal enterprise. Stranger things have happened.

I don't recall, but I think Bush is a cocksucker.

I got thinking about it the other day. You , my not fellow Americans are screwed. Doomed to survive ? another 16 months of Monkey Madness . BushCo has learned just saying no is a good enough stall for time. Dont see any accountability happening in the near future. The war will drag on endlessly at a slow bleed pace. Take into account that Bush and pals really have no desire to leave Iraq anytime soon anyways. They will resist the will of the people and Congress to the bitter end. Theres gold in them there hills for them. Add in Bushes unprecedented power grabs and signing statements , known abuses and Chertoffs gut. The worst may be yet to come. Im not so sure the Neos will give up their dream after all we have been through together. They may be ready to deliver the coup de grace to the US Constitution. Buckle up kids,might be a rough road ahead.

This reminds me of the investigation of 9/11. Bushco doesnt want the truth about Tillman either.

Well that was such a duck-monkey kind of an answer. Vague and crooked as hell of an answer.

Prior to Bush being elected his first term. All the republicans were spewing the "flip flop Dems", And how Clinton like all Dems moisten their fingers and hold it up in the wind.

Rush was slobbering this all over his gold plated Mic back then.

Bush is supposedly not doing that finger moistening in the wind. He is being a leader. Don't you get it. The repubs meed to be told what to think and what to support. Their frustrated when we think for ourselves. So Bush by not listening to anyone, including his staff is being the leader. Leading us to where he wants us. Not leading us where we tell him we want to go.

Pig headedness to repubs is their finest leadership skill and ability. That is why they cowboy lone ranger pretending by Bush played so well with repubs. Especially this really enthralled the 27 percenters of GW's...................

Milty @ 81:

myiq, that's the problem, it doesn't seem to be getting worse. It seems to be getting better, at least from what I've been reading and seeing on TV lately.

Or is the media in the pockets of Bush and company as well, spreading disinformation?

This is no longer a question but a fact...the Bush administration and the concentration of huge media conglomerates are selling lies at the expense of our sons and daughters sent to fight in a geopolitical war for profit for which they are told they are fighting against islamofascism.

As always - Total Bullshit

Gejo @ 1:

Must be the memory loss due to lyme disease. I reckon half the Bush Administration was bit by the same tick.

Must be the memory loss from all the crack Bush has been smoking. Every word, every syllable out of is mouth is always a lie. I don't see how anyone can believe anything he says and blindly follow him. The truth is indeed inconvenient to this administration.

IMPEACH!

Gore/Obama/Anyone but Bush '08

"I always admired the fact that a person who was relatively comfortable in life would be willing to take off one uniform and put on another to defend America."

What he was really saying is "I always admired the fact that other people who were relatively comfortable in life would be willing to take off one uniform and put on another to defend America. Not that I would do it, but it's admirable."

F*cking hypocrite.

I said it once I'll say it again.What time is it ?It's TILLMAN TIME! Say did you hear about TILLMAN THE MAN!!!

What I've really started to like about C&L are the screen caps for the videos. Without even watching this video I see it shows Bush in a birdlike pose, intently listening for the signal that will tell him what to say next. Does he know what he's going to say next? I don't think so. Does he understand what it is that he says as he says it? I doubt it.

Does he have a stupefied expression on his face, or what?

The TILLMAN MURDER
What did the president know?
When did the President know?
Why is the White House hiding the truth about the Tillman murder?
Who stopped the doctors criminal investigation into the three bullets in Pat Tillman's face?

Above is the contents of a 3' X 5' sign I take to the peace vigil on Tuesday nights.
Won't you join me so when the congress comes back from vacation they have something to focus on?

Milty @ 73:

Sad to say, the only way we can turn things around and have a real chance of defunding the war, politically, now or after the next election, is if things go badly for the USA in Iraq.

Have you been living in a box for the last six years, Milty?

A CHORUS of protest greeted the war at its inception. We said that this was not our enemy and not a threat to us. We pointed out the potential for a quagmire. Invading a nation that hasn't attacked you directly is always an invitation to disaster.

For you to now pretend that we've wished that things would go badly all along is frankly a crock of self-aggrandizing bull. For you to insinuate that this is some kind of plan to stab the war effort in the back is a steaming crock of bull.

Bush's war failed because of Bush. He has to date been given every resource to run his war that he's asked for. He has had all of the money he's asked to have. He's had the latitude to run the troops ragged.

He has also had unfettered control over his economic plan. He was given every tax cut he wanted. He was given every program he wanted.

But the war went badly because it was planned badly, and executed badly. And the planning and execution was done by Bush. He is the CinC. He is the man in charge. If he's not man enough to admit that he's been in charge of a huge mistake that's his problem. Not mine. He's not my fucking boss. He's my employee in the same way a CEO is the employee of the Board of Directors. And it's clear that this project of his is a fuckup. Because of who is running it.

And the Bush Economy went badly because it was planned badly. Massive amounts of debt. No credible program for creating sufficient jobs. No credible program for infusing sufficient energy into an energy-dependent system. No credible program for reducing wasteful healthcare costs. No credible program for educating future workers. Nothing but massive tax cuts for the rich.

Milty, things are going badly because Bush screwed them up. Democrats are going to seize power not because they've somehow black-magicked the economy and the war into a massive trainwreck, but because Bush and the Republicans did what they've wanted to do all along, which is run the ship of state aground. At a personal profit. You can take your Dolchstosslegende and shove it up your ass.

it would appear to me that king george had no spin coaching in this one. look for tony snowjob to "clear " this up later.
un f-ing believable.

Perhaps you can understand the other emotions that might surface when a president declares executive privilege to prevent a real investigation from taking place. Perhaps you can understand that a family has the right to know the nature of a soldier's death especially when they were lied to from the outset. This guy is sickening.

forestyan @ 82:

Bush 43 just lied -- live on camera -- when he tried to avoided answering when he found out about the truth. Anybody who's done psychology 101 can see that from his physical reaction. This is exactly why he's exercising his executive privileges to block the release of some incriminating documents.

Yep...count the number of eyeblinks on this one. The mumbling, the refusal to use empathetic words like "suffer," and "loss," and "their dead son." Instead? "they have a lot of emotion..." BUSHSLUT is a lying sociopath, I want a front-row seat when hs is hanged for his innumerable crimes,,

forestyan @ 82:

Bush 43 just lied -- live on camera -- when he tried to avoided answering when he found out about the truth. Anybody who's done psychology 101 can see that from his physical reaction. This is exactly why he's exercising his executive privileges to block the release of some incriminating documents.

He couldn't even look straight into the camera or at the questioner, his eyes were shifting every which way to avoid contact with his ACCUSERS: WE THE PEOPLE.

Oh Lord, I have seen the evil in the world, and 'it' is 'us'.

coleshack @ 39:

I love Bush's facial expressions during a press conference. It looks like he's swallowing bile as the reporter asks his question.

It make sme nauseous. The look of utter distain towards people who would dare question him, I've never seen a more arrogant prick.

When people realize that "I don't recall" is bullshit, use:
"I can’t give you the precise moment." - GW Bush

Yep, shoulda asked about the executive privilege thing. Helen needs to pin him on that one if nobody else has the balls to do it.

Hype-Jersey @ 41:

OMG, OUR FUCKING PRESIDENT IS A GODDAMNED MORON! HOW CAN SOMEONE BE SO VAPID, SO COMPLETELY EMPTY, SO GODDAMNED INNANE? SO GODDAMNED STUPID? HOLY SHIT!

And REMAIN the so-called leader of the Free World, that's what I'd like to know.

jack jett @ 11:

This shit for brains couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it.

He is the poster boy for this website.

He is a Crook. He is a Liar.

He might be in over his head with this Tillman family. That Mom looks like she ain't gonna take his shit and this lady is smart.

jack jett

Mary Tillman knows something. She knows her son's case backwards and forwards and has researched it in infinitely more detail than the Army or Pentagon. She has done the job they should have done. She knows something because she has always believe he was murdered. I suppose right now, she just can't prove it. Considering the WH is claiming exec priv over all docs surrounding Tillman's death, she is unable to get to the necessary evidence to prove her case.

boosh also never took the AA pledge.

He just thought he did when he signed up for AAA.

Sit on it!

LOL

Bush avoided making a pledge and couldn’t even remember when he first heard about the Pat Tillman cover-up.

Who CARES about whether or not the little airhead makes a "pledge"?

"I expect there to be a full investigation and get to the bottom of it."
hmmm, vaguely familiar, no?
in all honesty, George W. Bush could not adequately manage the night shift at the feed mill.

Bush has same guilty look on his face as when he was asked if he had prior knowledge of Trade Tower attacks.

How can 29% of America still support this f**knut? This twit that has taken responsibility for nothing while the country slowly devolves into helplessness. Oh right, he does love the Jesus Christ. So that's enough.

I agree on reporters should have asked why he refuses to give documents on the Tillman matter.

Seems to me if there was nothing to hide, he wouldnt be citing executive privilege. The only time a Prez uses that executive privilege defense is when they are wanting to keep info that they know will create a scandal or show one or more of them made a poor executive decision that resulted in the investigation that is currently going on.

I think the media needs to start playing a bigger and badder HARD BALL session when it comes to this administration seeing its been one problem after another with the Bush clan. Enough with the soft ball questions with this corrupt administration. MEDIA NEEDS TO GET THE TRUTH OUT- NOT THE BUSH SPIN/TALKING POINTS. We can tune into FOX news is thats what we're looking for. Most of us WANT and demand the truth and not the lies, coverups and "I dont knows" that we have seen for several years.

But then the media doesnt have that "big set" to go toe to toe with the Prez on anything that would make him or his hence men accountable. :( :( :( :(

Bush is showing that he could care less about our troops. He isnt concerned about their well being or how they died, he's concerned about how to coverup a BIG mistake that came from the top.

His press conference yesterday said it all. No matter what Petraeus has to say in Sept. Bush is hell bent on our staying in Iraq till the day the U-Haul moves his ass out of that White House. And if the Dems in Sept. cave in once again to Bush, they will be killing any chance of a Dem for Prez in the next election. ;)

HypeJersey at 43, I was going to make a remark quite similar to yours. But I wonder if the "significant emotions" crap wasn't planned rather than an off-the-cuff idiotic remark. Not planned by the village idiot of course but maybe by Karl Rove for instance? It paints the Tillman family as thinking with their hearts and not with their minds, and the reverse is true. Then the sheeple who were listening in could say, yeah, I feel for the Tillman family and can understand their being emotional (I would be too), but the president is right, blah, blah, blah. . .

The Dems--and the msm--SHOULD BE ALL OVER THIS!!!!

Bush says "obviously, the minute i heard, that the facts most people believed were true, were not true, I expected there to be an immediate investigation..."

THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE. He expected an immediate investigation. Ok. Certainly, there should be records, and a flurry of communication, emails, etc -- saying that the President had expected an immediate investigation! That is simple common sense. This is not a question of what he had for lunch three months ago. This is a very bold and direct question: when did you learn that there were dicrepancies over the death of perhaps the most famous soldier in US history?

You cannot tell me there are not records of this.

For Democrats, forever worried about being perceived as "soft" on defense, this is their golden ticket to expose these hot-air chickenhawk cowards for what they are. Yet the democrats, inexplicably, sit on their hands. There should be press conference after press conference after press conference.

IF THEY HAD ANY BRAINS, ANY BRAINS WHATSOEVER, THE DEMS WOULD BE MAKING THE BIGGEST STINK ABOUT THIS.

Because Dumbya had Tillman sacrificed and murdered for purely political reasons.
IMPEACH!!

ANYONE who believes this man is LOOKING in the MIRROR.

[...] Faulty recollecting, worst ever President [...]

Sorry but this SOB, yeah I'm talking about Barb, [deleted-do not advocate violence on this site] what a nation of cowards!

"Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th, Malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the evil doers..."

Where is Bin Laden? Dead? In Pakistan? In Iraq? Iran? Afghanistan? Gaza? Palestine? Lebanon? The US Homeland? Where is Bin Laden? Dead?

I find this statement by the Decider to really tells us a lot about his "compassionate" conservatism:

I always admired the fact that a person who was relatively comfortable in life would be willing to take off one uniform and put on another to defend America.

So what Bush is implying is that it's no big deal when a person of lower-income enrolls in the army. (and probably figures that they're partly doing it in order to take money from the government) It kind of reminds me of the statement his mother made after Katrina, where she said - regarding the homeless people in the dome - that "this is working out well for them" since they were living in poverty anyway. What a family of cold, elitist bullies! How is it that - even though Bush grew up in wealth, went to a private school in the East, etc., etc. - he still can get away with a persona of being a "good 'ol boy"???

Not that it would matter. He hasn't kept one single promise so far.

Oh yea. Like we got to the bottom of the outing of covert CIA agent, Valerie Plame and her brassplate company Brewster Jennings. Uhhhhh huh.

Karl!!! Get your ass back in the shed, GodDammit! Your pigface is showing again! Hide, you fatfaced, closeted gay partisan genius, hide!!!!

Any of these people running for elected office aught to be called on to pledge to the American people that if we vote them into office that they will NOT, EVER, violate the laws of our constitution and that they will go after any elected official, no matter what party and vote to take whatever progressive action required in our laws to remedy the matter of concern. I am not going to vote for any of them that will not stand before the people of this country and say these words. You have to do your job and there is NO picking and choosing weather you want to do or not, like this gang we now have in office, just DO IT.

They need not get cute with the little homemade bibles they tote, when they are sworn into office, with their fingers crossed behind their backs, but a real honest commitment to the American people, that they will not lie, cheat or steal from the people of this country or commit any crimes that would bring shame on this country, like we are seeing every dame day after day with these lying thugs.

The US Constitution is not there for these idiots to play games and by pass the basic laws that govern this country.

This is the reason we are in so much trouble now and will be in even more before this freak leaves. He knows he is safe to just violate any and every law he can and NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN. They swore to protect and defend the constitution and the bill of rights and all that do not vote to defend it, are themselves violators and they all know this and the cheap excuse of not doing their jobs and voting against wrong doing, no matter the dame outcome, makes them as bad as the known criminal that is acting out the dirty deeds.

To continue funding his illegal war is another outrage and a direct slap in the face of every American citizen in this country, especially those with loved ones in that hell, that are being murdered every dame day.

I am just beside myself with this latest, incompetent disaster of the so call one hundred thousand weapons that somehow are lost, stolen or what ever the hell these criminals have done with billions of dollars spent on these weapons to protect our solders.

How the hell do you lose ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND GUNS?. Do they think we are stupid or what and media will not go near this crap as we all see.

Let's see what the Sunday morning round table TV goons, have to say about this latest feasco, under the leadership of this freak they are all waiting to hear the fate of our young people.

Now we have to worry about them being in the hands of the enemy, to just knock off more of our young people with guns we bought and this latest ass hole of a so called General Partaris (or whatever the incompetent fools name is), talking about he did not know they did not have a way to track them. What in the hell are we doing over in that dame country that want us to just get the hell out? .

Watch these congressional idiots just vote to give this bastard several more billion to purchase more to sell us out with or what ever he is really doing. I know one thing for sure and that is American people are no where near as stupid as many of these elected officials and he will never be able to blow smoke up our asses.

We should not allow these people to stand before us and ask us to vote for them and as soon as they get into office do what ever the hell they want to do.

This is bullshit and every dame one of these bastards in office that refuse to do what the constitution calls for in this kind of circumstance, needs to be kicked out of office and I don't care what party they are in.

All of them know this fool needs his ass kicked out of the white house and I don't know the real reason for the stand off, but I do know this. All that refuse to participate in the Impeachment of this idiot, is also a party to his murderous crimes and dame all of them for these dirty deeds that we are forced to stomach for the next year and a half.

My heart goes out to this young mans mother for the pain and suffering she is enduring and all of the mothers that have lost under this blood bath and all at the fault of the dame President of the United States of America.

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