Romney Still Defends Putting Family Dog On Roof Of Car
By Logan Murphy Saturday Aug 11, 2007 10:58am
On this morning's "Fox News Sunday", host Chris Wallace interviewed GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney and actually hammered him about putting his dog, Seamus, in a kennel on the roof of his car on a long family vacation. Wallace, who says he's a dog lover, points out that Massachusetts law prohibits endangering animals in this way and asks, "what were you thinking?"
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After a chuckle, Romney jovially explains how Seamus jumped up there on his own and how much he loved being on the roof of the car. He also assures Wallace that the kennel was airtight and safe, but admits that he had no idea that he was breaking the law.
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Apparently rules do not apply to Republicans.
I'm not sure why this story is even relevant anymore.
An "airtight" dog kennel???
As long as he is running for the leader of the free world position...it will always be relevant
Mugsy @ 3:
yeah, reacted to that one as well, especially if you put someone in it for several hours, he'd be dead.
If the kennel was "airtight," as alleged then...
1) the dog would have suffocated well before ever arriving at their destination and
2) the original story, which was cited as "humorous" because the dog had relieved itself in such a way that crap flowed down over the family car, could never have happened.
Mitt is clearly lying. Quelle suprise.
That may be the lamest lie I have ever heard. The dog jumped up there, then somehow he was in the kennel and the kennel was airtight? What the hell was the dog supposed to breath. This guy maybe be more stupid than geo. bush. May be.
My dog's response at http://www.flickr.com/photos/bijoudesigncom/730100113/
Enjoy! :)
Wait..he didn't know it was against the LAW???!!!! He was the governor right? He didn't know? He didn't know? My God, this man is a plastic twit. Christ.
Romney/Vick '08
What. A. Smarmy. Jerk!
Rallen, that picture is priceless and your dog is cute as hell too. :)
Nicholas @ 4:
So let me get this straight: The world is falling apart around us, war is breaking out everywhere, the stock market is ruining 401ks, the mortgage industry is collapsing, the US infrastructure is disintegrating, New Orleans is still on life support...
...and I'm supposed to care about this crap?
Cut us all a break.
You know what they say about people who are cruel to animals, don't you? Psychiatric files reveal that sadism begins with torturing animals and progresses up. Bush used to insert firecrackers into the anus orifice of frogs and then explode them, laughing his butt off as he blew the frog to smithereens. Just check out Justin A. Frank's biography of George W. Bush called "Bush On The Couch". It's all there and began very young. He then progressed on to 'branding' skull & bone brothers with a hot hanger.
Wonder what Romney will do next? Maybe he'll parade around with his wife in a cage on the roof sometime soon??
Thanks, POP
You know, up until that time he never was politically motivated.... ;)
Everyone, feel free to use this image. You have my permission and blessing.
Mitt is toast.
America's best and brightest!
Ooooh, Wallace. Finally growing a ballsack. A tiny one, but one nonetheless.
Hey, Mitt, just because your dog jumped up there by himself doesn't make it right, or for that matter, legal. That'd be like saying "I knew that girl was 13, but she ASKED me to have sex with her." Just because she asked doesn't make it right or legal. Just some food for thought, asshole.
The Champ is out.
Just Me @ 13:
I don't think that's the point here. No one actually cares a hoot about any of the candidates presently on the radar, not the least of which is flip-flopper Mitt; however, we certainly do not need another sadist in the white house now, do we? Clearly Romney has some serious personal problems and issues to resolve before he will ever gain the trust of the american people.
hey just me
the story is relevant because it presents romney's inhumanity and provides evidence that he feels he is above the law
ignorance of the law is never an excuse
now go away little troll boy
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Good points, Veritas.
What the hell is so funny? Anyone who changes position as much as him, who goes for such a wholesome, "all-American" look, just scares me. And what is it with ignorance? During all these hearings we have to hear Sara Taylor, Alberto Gonzalez, Christie Todd Whitman, R. Scott Jennings, etc. claim "ignorance" about something. If they're not lying, it should be criminal to be that fucking stupid. (And for the record, I don't believe "they don't know". Politicians are control freaks. They know everything. If they say they don't know something, it means they're guilty) Anyone doing a regular job out in regular peoples' land would be fired if they didn't know thhe particulars of some element of their job. That excuse would not fly. As a teacher, when kids claim ignorance five or six months into the school year, I call BS. You've been in school seven, eight years, six months this year. I don't believe you don't know. Oh well, at least Wallace did some measure of decent journamalism.
Just Me @ 13:
Just Me, if we can't trust him to use good judgment regarding his dog, how the hell can we trust him with the lives of our soldiers, our children's future, YOUR SICK MOTHER!!!!
if you want 4 more years of bush, vote romney.
a guy @ 10:
WOW. I just noticed this. That is low, but really kinda funny. They do go together, don't they? Like peas in a pea-fighting contest strapped in a kennel on the roof of a car for 12 hours.
The Champ is out. (again)
Just Me @ 13:
When a Presidential candidate is this much of a fascist with a dog, yeah, you should be concerned. And if you're really not concerned, why are you commenting?
If Mitt is the Chosen One, I await the Centurions of the SCLM to line up and demonstrate their fealty to the Supreme Cause by parroting that Mitt & his dog is a nonStory or that they also put their dogs atop cars. Damn - I figure some of these stalwart soldiers will confess to placing their children and spouses atop their vehicles in (airtight?) crates.
Let's face it: Stories like this inflame the animal-rights crowd, and THAT is what this all about.
Every candidate--ALL of them--has some foible, some idiosyncrasy that is abhorrent to a significant portion of the populace.
The '08 campaign is shaping up to dwell on stories like this one. The MSM wants to dwell on this fluff, and blogs like this one are taking the bait.
Um Mitt, ignorance of the law is not a valid defense. It maybe a MITTigating factor.
Anyone check to see if the Willard Mitt Romney clan made a 'un-prompted' donation to the animal humane society?
Funny true story: 2 kids removed a rail from my fence and placed it on the ground. I see them do it and and tell them to leave my fence alone. I don't get right out to put it back in position. Less than an hour later, I see one of the original kids with another kid walking down the street with my fence rail. When I confront them, the one who initially removed it said he 'found' it. I said "yeah you 'found it' in front of the fence where you put it down an hour ago when I caught you messing with my fence"
This kid is a Republican in the making
Riiiiight.
/envisioning world with dogs that have 72 inch vertical leaps
Bottom line, this gives us a key into his judgment. He seems to have no ability to see beyond the moment. Just puts the dog up there and gives no thought to the consequences. I almost laughed when he said they had had lots of dogs. I guess so. The others probably kept falling off the roof of the car or smothered in the kennel.
EconAtheist @ 30:
Yeah, that is what I was thinking. My mom has a dog that can jump maybe three feet up or something and the dog likes to sort of pounce at little animals. I joke to her that th dog thinks it's a cat......and that is amazing.......but jumping up on top of a minivan/car?
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Just Me @ 28:
Yes every politician does, but the SMART politician owns up to it, realizes they screwed up, apologizes and moves on. He doesn't keep thinking that what he did was ok because he didn't know it was illegal. AND doesn't try to use it as a selling point to show off his problem soling skills. He's dumb as a sack of hammers. That is the real story.
Did the dog fall off the roof or something? What bad thing happened to the dog?
Just Me @ 28:
It's a character debate and this shows Willard Mitt Romney's true character. He's an arrogant man, who doesn't know the laws or ignores them at his own convenience. You can bet money that if it was a Dem, Willy Mitt and his team would be all over it.
That should read 'problem solving skills' .
rallen @ 8:
good doggy
FORGET MITT’S MUTT, ROMNEY ALSO STRAPPED EXTRA WIVES TO CAR ROOF
Just Me @ 33:
Fine, but don't claim that it's a non-story and you've spent 15 minutes on a non-story, and addressing claims that it isn't a non-story. If this is nothing, why are you still here? Go on and address whatever else you think is more important.
Why aren't they going after him the way they are going after Michael Vick.
Gerald Gibson @ 35:
The dog defecated so badly that it ran down the side of the car, which Willy Mitt emotionlessly hosed down. It was supposed to show his calmness during a crisis.
The irony is that it was a totally avoidable crisis created by Willy Mitt's ill-thought out plan to tie the dog to the roof and drive straight through from MA to Canada. Sounds like Bush's Iraq policy...
First Romney defended his predilection for rooftop canine waterboarding. Then he deployed the Romney Bland of Brothers to fight in the cornfields on Iowa.
For more of the pathetic details, see:
"Romney: My Sons Serve America by Getting Me Elected."
Just Me @ 2:
I hear ya, but I do think it's relevant in that animal cruelty is a major sign of violent personalities. It doesn't matter though, I doubt the country will elect a Mormon anyway so all of this (and pretty much any Romney in general) just seems like a distraction.
Gerald Gibson @ 35:
HE HAD THE SHIT SCARED OUT OF HIM OK?
[deleted] - C&L covers a wide variety of issues. Thanks for your concern.
Just Me @ 13:
It's not about the dog, nor the lies he tells about the incident, it's the way he rationalizes and just makes crap up to dismiss what happened.
Haven't had enough of Republicans that will dismiss the concerns of others, lie with a straight face, and just make crap up out of thin air to cover their asses?
airtight kennel....yeah.....rrrriiigghhttttt...me thinks the dog would of suffocated.....This guy doesn't deserve to have a dog....let alone get selected to the WH.
"Afteer a chuckle, Romney jovially explains how Seamus jumped up there on his own and how much he loved being on the roof of the car. He also assures Wallace that the kennel was airtight and safe, but admits that he had no idea that he was breaking the law."
My dog loves beef jerky but I know stuffing 50 lbs of it down his throat would constitute animal abuse and is against the law. Seamus probably liked jumping up on the roof of the car for a ride around the block but after being strapped to the roof of the car for a 10 hour ride from Mass. to Orlando I doubt Seamus would ever get up on that roof again. That's when human adult common sense should have weighed in, which as we all know is all too lacking in the GOP these days.
IT'S ABOUT JUDGEMENT........and his lack of......sheesh.
12 hours on the roof is negligent and harsh.
Not as bad as kennelling your pet and shipping them in the cargo hold of a plane. That's bad.
Shit spilling is not any indication of poor leadership. Pet owners have to deal with thier dog's shit.
Don't compare this to breeding dogs for a bloodsport.
I'm glad that it was a Republican shill on Fox who brought it up again, not a progressive.
who in their right mind would strap a dog in a plastic box on top of their car for 10 hrs.....yep JUDGEMENT...is the issue
There's a little difference between a dog resting on a parked car and a dog cowering on top of a car racing 65 miles an hour. Besides, dogs do all sorts of things that are not good for them - just this morning my own dog tried to eat some decaying thing she found - I made her spit it out - because I'm the smarter one - you might say I'm the decider! Mitt said the kennel was secured - what if it hadn't been? What if it had come loose and flown off with the dog inside? You'd have had a dead dog, that's what! This is important because the way Mitt tells the story, it's just like a funny anecdote or piece of family history, when in reality, it is an important clue as to the way Mitt thinks - that is, he doesn't.
Why do police keep asking the same questions over and over? To see how the story changes. To see how things add up. This story is instructive in its changing facts. Mitt fashions a wind screen. Brown liquid flows down back window. Mitt pulls over, hoses off dog and roof. Now kennel is airtight. Hum-mm I think Mitt tells the truth well enough to be president. So simple even a caveman can do it.
The Dog jumps on the roof of his car?? What the hell is he driving -a Barbie Mobile?
& then to compound that all, that's where The Rom gets the Bid Idea that the dog actually likes to RIDE on the roof of the car?? -Oh Yeah. I got it: A + B = A Big dumb fucking LIE. What a buffoon but I'm sure the mitt-man has serious credibility when it comes to his policies for America -or Iraq... Who else can remember the last time someone got out paying the fine because They Didn't Know They Were Breaking The Law?
That's the issue here #13 Just Me (you Number Two); When a politician running for an office in public service lies FOR ANY REASON, that should prompt some concern in you. It's sorta like stating you are running on a platform of restoring Decency to the White House, and being overheard on an open microphone calling a reporter who has been critical of you an "Asshole" and having your running mate agree 'Big Time' on that same open mic. That is an issue that directly conflicts with your claim to be morally superior; if that's you're idea of moral, maybe you're not telling the truth, and honesty is good quality that we should expect from our 'leaders'. Yes, w in dick have sure restored integrity to the WH. Just ask Scooter, or Mrs. Tilman, or anyone at Abu Grhaib or Gitmo, or Gonzo.
The issue here show mitt is a liar with little regard for anyone or anything but getting elected....That should concern you Just Me. Maybe you should expect more from your party than just getting elected.
The lie has already been put to the "airtight" kennel. I think an even more glaring lie is Romney's repeated statement that the dog just jumped up there by himself. If you Google for advice about escaping an attacking dog you will find that the roof of a car is considered a safe place for escape because it is difficult for dogs to get on the roofs of cars. I would be curious to hear Romney's explanation of just HOW the dog jumped up there all by himself.
Romney is a hair gel addicted savage who treats pets like Michael Vick does. He gets "he smells great!" treatment by reporters while they attack Democrats
The dog's crap slid down the back window as the car was going down the interstate as the Romney rugrats all screamed Ewwwww!!!! Perhaps Romney can explain how a kennel can be airtight and at the same time not be crap tight?
Perhaps karma will have Romney come back as a dog in his next life strapped to the hood of a car for a 10 hour 65 mph trip down the interstate while his cold hearted Republican owner tells people how much HE enjoys it.
A dog in a cage strapped to the roof of a car going at 60 mph for 12 hours without stopping, no person inside the car thinks anything's wrong until the dog shits itself, the shit drips down the windows of the car and Romney's kids complain about the shit. not about the dog. they complain about the dog diarrhea dripping down on their windows. that's why Romney finally stops.
they tell this story to a newspaper reporter as an example of how determined their daddy is, and how proud they are that he only stopped on that journey to wash the shit off the car.
if you don't get why this story is important -- you're living in romneyworld.
AIR-TIGHT?????? My God, this man is as moronic as Dumbya!!!!!
miss skeptic @ 53:
Absolutely. Any dog loves chocolate but any dog owner knows not to feed a dog chocolate because it will kill him/her. "Personal responsiblity" Republican Mitt doesn't take personal responsibility for his actions, that's the bottom line and the other story here. He blames and deflects like a typical GOPer.. He would do the same as president, which thankfully, isn't likely to come to pass.
Jerry @ 60:
Dumbya with better hair.
Just Me @ 28:
I see what you are trying to say, but what irks me about the tack (right word? ahhh, moving on) you are taking is that this is only one of MANY Mitt stories covered by C&L. This is one article posted on this site and here you are having a kitten and acting like that's all that gets discussed on this site. Geez, man; take a pill!
Bonkers @ 64:
I don't need a pill, but may I ask:
Why do you and so many others here have the herd mentality that if somebody says, "This is a shit story that should have died," you all gang up so righteously indignant that anybody would dare disagree with you?
It's a shit story.
".......and how much he loved being on the roof of the car."
Yep. He loved it soooo much, it gave him the runs and scared the shit out of him. I am reminded of LBJ picking his dog up by the ears. Fido Romney's roof experience is just a continuation of some people in the human race not learning or understanding that that all forms of life must be respected, (not just the unborn). Better yet, when are people going to start respecting the planet?
then dont read it!
I went to the "five brothers" web site and looked at the five brothers bus - there's no visible fecal matter on it. I suppose that's a good sign?
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Who gives a crap about this triviata?
Would people have been better advised to vote for Bush over Gore if it turned out that Gore fed his dogs Twinkies while Bush fed his dog prescription dog food?
No wonder we end up with the f***brains we do - when we elect people based on this kind of crap.
Mike Stackpole @ 6:
Actually the oxygen mask dropped down for Fido when the dog house decompressed.
what do you expect from a guy that wants to "double guantanamo"?
arroyo @ 70:
Arroyo, Bush shoved firecrackers up the bum of poor defensless frogs, if more people had known that story, 3000 Americans and countless Iraqs would still be alive.
arroyo @ 70:
I stunned at the responses on this comment section. For those of you that think this is triviata (?) or a non-story. One question: Would YOU strap a dog to the roof of YOUR car for an 11 hour trip? Is this a normal occurrence? And if so, my dog has a response for you....
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bijoudesigncom/730100113/
And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them. [book of mormon]
My husband picked this off another blog (can't take credit for it . . .) - BUT . . .
If Romney's sons enlisted in the military - there'd be room in the family van for the dog.
The 97 members of the Romney family in Iowa for the straw poll ~
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This is kind of cute!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_AG4jo6wiA
Oh come on Mitt,
I love my dog too. And if my dog like running out in the street with traffic in a plce that had leash laws. Just because my dog liked the street I would not let him have the ability to run into a street of auto traffic. No matter how much fun my dog had barking at the cars as they zipped by. And as I mentioned if there was a leash law. Ignorance of the law has not been acceptable as an excuse in court for Americans. Unless of course you are wealthy enough to be in the wealthy elite court system.
Romney claims ignorance of the Mass law of humane treatment of animals.
And says his dog is capable of making a decision of safety.
If we were speaking of a child that loved to ride in the back of a pick up because he enjoyed it. Should you travel long distance with the child in the piick up bed because he has fun?
How about if his kids don't like wearing seat belts and doesn't enforce them to wear seatbelts. Will Romney claim ignorance of the seat belt law as well?
We know Mitt's wealth will excuse his ignorance of the law in his upper class legal system.
So, the dog wanted to be on the roof of the car.
Were you saying the dog has been on top of the moving car regularly?
You didn't know it was against the law? You certainly didn't know it was appallingly stupid.
Mitt, you're supposed to be smarter than the dog.
What a terrible response.
Darth_Romney @ 77:
HA! very cute.
Yes he did say the dog like getting on top of the car.
He left out the moving vehicle part didn't he?
strawberry @ 73:
True. These behaviors DO matter - they say something critical about the inherent humanity of a person - it goes right to the core of it - it DOES matter.
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This is a non-ssue. Let's sink our teeth into something more meaningful (excuse the pun.)
Something else is that Mitt, did say that his dog was, " in an air tight kennel ". Insinuating that the dog wasn't exposed to the wind. Why I thought the dog liked it up there and enjoyed it.
I guess not breathing in an air tight kennel isthe Romny family rage.
And just where does one buy an "air tight Kennel"?
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I can't even figure why a kennel manufacturer would consider making and selling an "air tight dog kennel, Can you?
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Just Me Says:
Nicholas @ 4:
As long as he is running for the leader of the free world position…it will always be relevant
So let me get this straight: The world is falling apart around us, war is breaking out everywhere, the stock market is ruining 401ks, the mortgage industry is collapsing, the US infrastructure is disintegrating, New Orleans is still on life support…
…and I’m supposed to care about this crap?
Cut us all a break.
Priorities, man. This aint FRANCE.
We True Americans love our pets (goldfish? nahhh)
and will not stand for that kind of behavior from the man destined to lead us to victory over the world's evil ones.
Or something like that.
STO: Romney is an idiot. The question is, is he enough of an idiot to be president?
Trittydi @ 82:
Hell Yes it matters..it gives us insight to the way this man thinks.How he feels about his own family pet.Obviously he doesn't give a shit about his animal..so what makes you think he will give a shit about you or anybody else.depraived indifference....
rallen @ 80:
NOT.
This is more about Romney's judgement and honesty than it is anything else.
Can Romney simply say at the time it seemed like a good idea but looking at it now, he doesn't think that way anymore?
That he should of been aware of the law like any other reasonable citizen. And ignorance was no excuse?
We have someone in the White House now that cannot do these simple things. Look where it has gotten us?
[...] I had no idea, but other cruel and sadly usual news, Mitt Romney once took his family on vacation with their dog on the top of the car. I guess it happens in Massachusetts, too, even when it’s outlawed. This is the guy who just [...]
where can i get my "romney/vick '08" bumper stickers?
The GOP is having them flown in from China. Blackwater Inc will have distrubution rights for the stickers..
#84..Robt....one would think that if someone made an airtight kennel....they'd get their ass's sued off ..an airtight kennel...that is so stooopid it defies description.
Romney was LYING.
his original story was with the punch line of having to stop and hose dog poo off the car.. and he told it when asked to come up with a funny family experience.
How could that happen in an air-tight kennel? He is either not skilled at lying or he thinks we all have the memory of an alzheimers patient. I can't believe no one gets offended when these Republicans speak.
Picture where Romney will place Americans in his economic ride to China.
Hell we like our social security riding on top of the subprime lending debacle. We enjoy it !
Just Me @ 65:
Yet you came back for more...
Get over yourself, if you don't think it's worth discussing then go elsewhere!
which raises another question about his judgement...if theres no room in the vehicle.....why bring him along.A man with his money can send his dog to doggie day care at a(stationary)kennel.....piss poor judgement if you ask me...
Yeah, it's that Romney chuckle. What a guy! (Chuckle.)
In June of this year, Romney gave himself $14K to the "ROMNEY FOR U S SENATE COMMITTEE". Is he running for both president and senate? Who would he run against, Kerry or Kennedy?
we do love our animals don't we.
This is great. Let's ask him what he thinks about the morality of eating live babies. I bet he gives equally entertaining answers.
@96
My thoughts exactly when I first heard this story.
It has less to do about animal 'rights' and more to do with the man's judgment, both in doing the dog-on-a-trip-on-top-of-the-car and in selecting this story to go public. Really stupid; and then the cover up is insulting.
Just Me @ 13:
Rover was so happy that he shit all over the car.
Mudshark, I sure do love my animals or I wouldn't have them in my life. Of course I can't imagine my life without my pets and future pets.
Seriously, of all the issues pressing the nation, I think Romney's dog is pretty far down the list.
Romney is one of those guys who doesn't know when to shut up. He always says more about a situation than he should . Like when he was asked why his sons weren't serving. He should have just said that's their choice or some such. Instead he makes the gaff of saying they are serving by driving his bus. Same with this dog story. He shouldn't have said all this shit and instead just say at the time he made a terrible error in judgment.
pissed off patricia @ 105:
Yep....I love my dogs..past and present.....I would never consider doing that to any animal.My dogs have proven to be better company than most people I've met..
Just Me @ 2:
Of course it's relevant. It's relevant because it shows what this man will do to the defenseless for his own convenience. The most disgusting part of the piece is how Romney doesn't seem to *get* that his actions were cruel.
If you don't think the story is relevant, you don't have to read it. No one is forcing your hand.
Just to be Just Me ... what you're saying is, how someone treats other species - and in particular, animals that one supposedly has an attachment to - isn't important to you. Is that it? Cuz that's what it seems like.
Wow. You're a cold, sick motherfucker, Just Me.
There is no doubt by watching Mitt that he knows he used bad judgement as far as reasonable people are concerned.
The smiling while answering Chris Wallace is something to take to heart. It is a tell tale sign of expression of truth or lie. Let alone confronting reality.
It is fair to say the Romney dog trick is somewhat trivial. That being the case.
He has to slobber all over to lie about it.?
This is part of Romney's character and we will see more of it.
Like his statement in defense of his flip flopping over pro choice to pro life. He's, " Tired of everyone saying their better because they accepted Jesus before him ".
( Mitt, think how America feels with your other lord and saviour Bush).
Apparently he was tired of Dog safety laws, and tired of considering reasonable traveling arraingments for animal. Hey, his wealth entitles him. Ask him, he'll tell you.
I still picture Mitt putting his Gandmother on the roof of the wagon as Chevy Chase in the vacation movie.....................
Some of us are lamenting over the dog and all of us should be lamenting over Mitt's ignorance and failure to even tell a good lie. His take on this tells us an awful lot about him. If he were a Democrat, I would feel exactly the same. Putting a dog in a kennel and placing that kennel on top of a car is ignorant and heartless. We don't need an ignorant heartless president. We've had one of those for over six years.
the real problem was that they never took the dog out during the trip for a potty break--I am sure they stopped during their
road trip for their own break--it would have taken a moment to let him out to walk around--then the family complained that
the dog went all over the roof of the car--pity!!!!!
http://dogsagainstromney.blogspot.com/
Romney said "We've had a lot of dogs over the years." A LOT of dogs? So, what's happened to them? He really sounds like someone who doesn't give a fuck about other lives besides his family's, and "pets" aren't in that family category for him. He clearly doesn't give a mouse's fart about the US soldiers and Iraqis who've lost their lives in the military actions he and his family support but won't serve in.
Post 109 should have read:
Just to be CLEAR, Just Me … what you’re saying is, how someone treats other species - and in particular, animals that one supposedly has an attachment to - isn’t important to you. Is that it? Cuz that’s what it seems like.
Wow. You’re a cold, sick motherfucker, Just Me.
Where the hell is the wife? If my husband abused an animal I would de-nut him. I would like to know if she aproves this behavior. Or is she another enabler like Laura Bush.
So, in other words, he's not fit to be the leader of the free world: his mind is not up to it.
#112..the dog was so scared it lost control of his bowels....
= " Jo Says: Where the hell is the wife? If my husband abused an animal I would de-nut him. I would like to know if she aproves this behavior. Or is she another enabler like Laura Bush. "=
If you hadn't noticed for quite some time, Most Republican wives are sort of chronic stepfordic.
Repubs need submissiveness. They preached it for ever. Like how submissive repubs are to Bush.
They go to hookers like Vitter did for a female to "make him wear diapers". Guess a submissive wife can't be Mistress enogh.
I just reminded my wife of this story....her response was ..."I wonder what he does to his wife"...bad idea reminding my wife.....now she's pissed off....the next one was.."What about his 5 boys who aren't serving".....I stepped in it.
Just me...it's not about animal rights(although it should be)..It's about judgement...but you knew that.
Gerald Gibson @ 35:
Let's toss you in a box, strap you to the roof of a car and drive down the road at 60 mph until you shit yourself and see if you think something bad happened to you, Gerald.
Why does this story matter?
Reason #1:
Because the source of the anecdote originally came from a Boston Globe article - intended to be lauditory - that included the story as an glimpse of his character and leadership potential:
Reason #2:
Because small gestures can be signs of larger character issues. Empathy and decency are good qualities to want in a leader. George Bush blowing up frogs as a child, disappearing during his National Guard service, giving the finger to the camera, or mocking Karla Faye Tucker's imminent execution were all isolated gestures that bore more consideration as indicators of GWB's character.
oop...please, sitemonitor, add the missing close-link tag in my post above
sorry all...sloppy posting on my part
==mudshark Says: Just me…it’s not about animal rights(although it should be)..It’s about judgement…but you knew that.===
Absolutely.!!
Just Me @ 120:
You're an idiot.
I'm not an animal rights activist. You're wrong there. In fact, I'm a carnivore, I think the wearing of fur is more than defensible, and I think PETA is dead wrong on many issues. All of these beliefs are the opposite of what an "animal rights whacko" would believe.
And you say nothing to indicate that you give a fuck about other animals. So I guess I'm right about you being a cold, sick motherfucker. Been to any dogfights lately, sicko?
When the first sign that putting your dog on the roof was in error comes via a shriek from the back of the station wagon (dog shit was running down the rear window) I'd suggest there's just a slight character issue there. (The Haggardists apparently consider dogs as fitting into their "having dominion over" scheme).
When the first you notice that your lawn care contractors are undocumented workers is from a newspaper story, I'd suggest there's a question as to the ability to screen the help.
When your major fundraiser turns out to be an (alleged) crook, I'd suggest there's a question as to the ability to choose your supporters wisely.
When your campaign staff flash fake police badges and wield imaginary power, I'd suggest there's a question as to the ability to select good people and manage them.
Romney took along Eric Fehnstrom as one of his spokespeople. Prior, Fehnstrom was his press secretary in Massachusetts. A good choice. Fehnstrom has a lot of experience covering and making excuses for the absentee ex-governor.
In short, Romney is a total Fraud, and a danger to all animals, including the humans.
"he had no idea that he was breaking the law."
That's what all the criminals say isn't it? Lock him up and throw away the key!!!
Cruelty and abuse to other species matters a lot to me, because of what it says about a person. I'm not an "animal rights wacko," but a professional biologist. I can care about both people and animals at once, fancy that. I can care about the war AND inhumane treatment of other species. If a dem showed this lack of consideration for his dog, I'd never give my support to them either.
===122 a guy Says: Gerald Gibson @ 35:
Did the dog fall off the roof or something? What bad thing happened to the dog?
Let’s toss you in a box, strap you to the roof of a car and drive down the road at 60 mph until you shit yourself and see if you think something bad happened to you, Gerald.===========
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Better Idea,
Let’s toss him in a box, strap you to the roof of a car and drive to Canada at 60 mph plus until he shits himself and see if you think something bad happened to you, Gerald.
And put Geralds life savings, social security and his kids education money on top of the subprime mortgages on wall street.
President Mitt may likely use that famous Romney tought process for his economic policies. Well for the under 2 million worth low lifes anyways.
Romney is all package.
Just Me @ 2:
Errrrrrrr..... MAYBE because how people treat laws and animals is relevant to how they treat everything in a society?????
Romney mistreats animals; no surprise there. He also told his wife to shut up when she started to explain her concerns about her health during a press conference when he was running for MA gov. That old me right there that he had NO concerns for anything except his own ambition. His sons will likely grow up to be like him, beating on their wives and torturing animals.
What a twit. I cannot express how disgusted I am with this "man" and his lies and excuses. He is nothing more than a criminal in my eyes.
Yet, the right wing loves him. Go figure.
This is what I would expect from any true blue Republican... an incapacity to emathize with any other. Supreme selfishness, utter self-absorption, the incapacity to accord all or most others objective reality. That it is a family pet is just more of the same, maybe worse, because there is presumably some kind of bond that would designate the pet as a junior member of the family.
Romney, after the election is stolen, will do a great job running GITMO, the various black prisons and the FEMA death camps that are now coming on line. He seems predisposed to such work.
Just Me @ 120:
Just Me, again, you claim disingenuously, that this is not important to you and yet you're still here arguing. You can be sure if Mr. Smooth is so thoughtful with his pets, he won't think twice about misusing and exploiting people, and then wondering why people are so upset. This is a like a litmus test. And this is not about....ooh.....crazy animal rights people. This is a reasonable expectation of everyone. If you don't realize that, there's something wrong with you.
Freaked-Out Canadian @ 123,
You nailed it.
Hey, Just Me, you sick mofo ... Read comment 129.
"Cruelty and abuse to other species matters a lot to me, because of what it says about a person."
So, what does your lack of concern say about YOU?
sumpl @ 94:
I had previously heard the kennel was "vented" - that air flowed freely through it. It would be interesting to go back and hear/read his original comments on this point. Is he lying now or not?
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kaT @ 105:
This discussion is actually about the man - not the dog.
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Ovid @ 112:
I wonder how many of them got "the kennel treatment" --
I know they now have chew toys for dogs that look like Michael Vick. Perhaps they need piddle/poo pads for dogs with Romney's face printed on them - larger than life. I'd buy one . . . .
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The dog-on-the-roof story is old news. The new news is that Chris Wallace asked Romney an inflammatory question during what was supposed to be Mitt's straw poll victory lap. Both the question and the way it was asked seemed designed to blunt Romney's momentum. If Wallace was simply propping up his fair-and-balanced facade, he would have lobbed a softball to Romney about his gaffe that his sons were "serving their country" by working on his campaign. He wouldn't accuse Mitt of breaking the law by abusing his dog.
We learned last week that FOX Opinion Channel has given Rudy Giuliani the lion's share of its candidate airtime. Now we know that FOX is actively trying to take down Rudy's competitors — or maybe it's just Romney, I don't know. What I do know is that without FOX's blessing, Romney is going to have a nearly insurmountable uphill battle for the nomination. At least for the moment, it appears as if FOX is treating Mitt like Mitt treated his dog.
Karma's a bitch -- especially for dog-haters.
Romney did previously state the kennek was vented. But in this clip it was "air tight". It is the difference to how the questions are being asked to him and Mitt changes his explanations to fit. Because:
^ HE CAN'T REMEMBER THE TRUTH BECAUSE HE IS UNFAMILIAR WITH IT. ^
(Remembering that lie and the one before is impossible and that is why the story changes)
NOTE:
Iowans didn’t have much to work with, the GOP had a very low turn out there.
Admit it, Mitt is a better choice for them than 9/11 Guliani, singing McCain, anti -immigrant- tornado Tancredo, oh brother Brownback, hallowed Huckabee.
Come on if you had to choose from that. You’d make a disgruntled reguritating body reaction as them and ralph-up as well. So they up-chucked Romney………
And his three heroic serving sons, Missing dog, and a wife developing Alberto’s memory disorder. Sure its bad for them. It will be for some time to come.
I am really surprized Mark Foley didn't toss his hat in the GOP ring.
One of the odder aspects of this story is Romney's explanation that the station wagon was too full of both kids and luggage to fit Seamus in.
Most people I know put their luggage on the roof, and carry their dog inside the car. But, apparently, not the Romneys.
Just plain weird, and his excuses have only made it weirder.
dejah thoris @ 131:
He actually told his wife to "shut-up?" -- he's toast.
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"Mitt, you’re supposed to be smarter than the dog." -LVogt (#78)
Exactly.
Then his dismissive, as if the law represents the only legitimate framework for human compassion. Good judgement itself carries no legitimacy, so if you aren't aware of any specific law, then whatever it is must be okay. (!?!?)
Let's talk values: Presidents should generally be smarter than dogs, and at LEAST as empathic. Can we all agree on that?
He is neither, and chuckling about it only establishes himself as a creepy psycho.
==========138 buddhistMonkey====================
Chris Wallace did in fact ask Romney the big softball question. It was this about Romney pretending to be Chevy Chase on Vacation.
That is underhand lob pitch.
Romney should have been asked something to the evvect of Health care, subprime loan debacle. No, Mitt is asked about his Dog.
I'm surprized Chris didn't just ask him about how good does it feel ahead in Iowa, I mean really how does it feel, Matter of fact really truely how does it feel?
Romney is such an asshole. No wonder the Republitards at Town Hall love him. I think he should put Michael Vick on the ticket.
Yes, the dog just loved riding up there, which is why he had diarrhea. It was excitement, see, not fear or anxiety. Airtight! Airtight!
Mitt the twitt strikes again.
Mitt, "I would double the kennel space on top of station wagons".
How exactly does a dog leap onto the roof while it is locked in an "airtight "kennel"? Does it have little leg holes like the Flintstones car?
Not like I was considering voting for him anyway, but I sure left that interview feeling like this is the sleaziest son of a bitch I have ever seen.
First this guy puts out a story bragging that can hose dog shit off of his car, which apparently means that he is qualified to be Commander-in-chief of the United States. (Admittedly, the ability to clean shit off of a window is more experience than our current one had going for him. Maybe after he leaves office he should take that up as a job while his dad and Clinton serve as Statesmen to the places that don't like Bush, like the world.)
But then when the story backfires, he lazily deflects: "It was safe up there. He liked the roof. Hell, he jumped up there himself. Couldn't keep that damn dog off the roof, in fact. And he was in a kennel. Or, wait. We put him in the kennel. But he loved the kennel too! He's one of those dogs that loves being up high in the open air almost as much as he loves spending time in a cramped box. He's an indoor/outdoor dog."
It also bothered me that his justification for why he thought the dog liked the kennel was because they kept him in it a lot. But just because a prisoner stops shaking the bars doesn't mean he likes his cell.
Mitt Romney is a putz. I hope he wins the nomination, I can't think of someone I would enjoy beating more.
so mitt's a liar. he's perfect for the job.
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