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tds-hayes-cheney.jpg  Jon asks sycophantic Cheney biographer Stephen Hayes why we should trust the Vice President when literally every prediction he's made has turned out wrong. If only we listened to 1994 Dick Cheney...

Stewart: I can't jive with the portrait you paint of the steadfast leader with the fear-mongering not bright guy that I've seen..I myself had some idiot from FOX playing the tape of me after Sept. 11th, very upset and then calling me a phony because apparently my grief didn't mean acquiescence...

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John Amato: Stewart makes Hayes look silly as he usually does and shows why he was chosen to write Cheney's biography. Stephen has no interest in uncovering truths about the VP---only padding his bank account and being the Karen Hughes of Dick.



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Foisted!

saw this last night... stewart was spot on as usual.

Hopefully the Cheney history remembers will be the one in "Hubris" and "Vice" rather than this propaganda effort. It's nice to see them getting called out again on knowingly leading the country into this "meshugas" we call Iraq.

Every Dick needs a fluffer. Why not a well paid one like Stephen Hayes?

-GSD

Stephen Hayes (heart) Dick.

Another closeted repig?

Fluffer-Nutter?

I saw this last night, and was one of the few times I was CHEERING my TeeVee, and not yelling at it.

Bravo, Mr. Stewart!

Jon ate Hayes lunch and then wadded up the brown bag and threw it at him. For a moment there Jon got out of character and spoke the way any of us would. Good for him!

ysbaddaden @ 6:

Fluffer-Nutter?

Felater-nutter

Awesome. John Stewart is the bomb.

More propaganda from the worst administration in the history of the US. The cheney apologist sure had his work cut out for him - making shit look like an ice-cream sundae - and only made himself look like the dick-sucking idiot he is.

The old line of "everything changed after 9-11" does not excuse blood lust, especially when plans were in the works to take out Sadaam before bush was even chosen by the SCOTUS.

Only in America would a comedian have to do the work that journalists won't do for fear of not getting invited to any more beltway dinner parties

john nichols cheney bio is better

peter dale scott's account of the cheney/rummy authoring Continuity of Govt/FEMA plans still better

neither apparently allowed on the teevee

I was disappointed Jon onlly gave that one jab toward Gibson.

Other than that....bang on deconstruction of a liar. Keep showing people why Daily Show is still more trusted than 'real' news, Jon!!

i wish the idiot from Fox would come on the show...

Ex-Canuck @ 11:

The old line of "everything changed after 9-11" does not excuse blood lust, especially when plans were in the works to take out Sadaam before bush was even chosen by the SCOTUS.

I liked how Stewart countered "everything changed after 9-11" with "but there wasn't a rift in the space-time continuum." :lol:

A crook is a crook, you've got to admit a dam good one. Then you have the peddlers, liars, cheats, and fakes who want to eat crumbs (a little book deal, it's ok he's got a family too) http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=220
http://www.YouPolls.com/

Man.......John to author guy: "Here is Your ass mother fucker."
author guy: Errr... ahhh..OK Thanks a lot.
Only wish John would have said half as much to bill crystal...but hey..he is human.

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That. Was. Beautiful!

And that is what American journalism SHOULD be like.
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When Hayes argued that 9/11 somehow changed everything and that 9/11 was used as an excuse to invade Iraq, Stewart inexplicably neglected to inform Hayes that no amount of justification coming from him or his hero Cheney could justify the fact that invading Iraq was and continues to remain illegal as well as immoral. Hayes said that there was evidence that Iraq had stockpiles of WMD and Stewart allowed him to get away with that falsehood. Too often liberals like Stewart will argue strategy concerning the invasion of Iraq instead of simply pointing out that since the U.S. had no justifiable reason to invade and occupy and terrorize the people of Iraq, the takeover of Iraq never should have happened and therefore the U.S. should leave Iraq post haste. But these points were never brought across by Stewart.

That shows some class not going after either John Gibson or Stephen Hayes. He didn't let either man get the best of him by showing anger. I think his one line about John Gibson got his point across more effectively then doing an entire segment on it. If someone made fun of my grief on 9/11 I wouldn't have been a class act like John Stewart. Way to go John Stewart!

I never understand why people like Stephen Hays think they can trick us with not only books like these... but think they can trick us by what they say on the talk-shows. How can he go out there, knowing that the truth lays on the side with Jon Stewart?

The only rationale I can think of... is that Hayes and the rest of them are psychotic. And I mean that literally. Maybe there is a more accurate term, as I'm not versed in psychological, and scientific, etc terminology. But I have a feeling that the only reason a person would be willing to go on national television to try and defend a lie, which can clearly be debunked, thus making themselves look like an idiot... because they literally have something wrong in their heads.

Or maybe he just unbelievable stupid. But, writing books like this shows this was all premeditated, and it takes SOME kind of brain to put a book together. So I think stupidity is out.

Or maybe.... it is just that he doesn't care what people think. He just goes out there, looks like a fool, and then collects his check from the evil men in the White House. I just don't get why the White House or whomever it is telling him to go out there and lie, how that person could have faith that the messenger they are sending out can actually trick us.

That makes me wonder about this mysterious person behind the curtain. Who thinks they can send someone out there to fool us? Again, the truth is against them, so why do they think that ANYONE can go out there and spin things?

I do not get these people.

I was hoping he would say something about Gibson. And I think it was just perfect: Not naming him (only "some idiot") while making perfectly clear that he was upset and unnerved but didn't want to reward it with some further discussion.

"Some idiot" Gibson. I think that was totally apropriate.

Lovely. Simply lovely. They didn't call us traitors? Gee, I guess they just have a really funny of saying "I (heart) liberals."

Stewart: I can’t jive with the portrait you paint. . .

That should be jibe, not jive. Stewart says it correctly, but the transcription errs.

Rhanks Jon & John, this statement made in 1994 should be kept above the fold for as long as we can keep it there.
America deserves at least that much.

NewNameAcquired @ 22:

I never understand why people like Stephen Hays think they can trick us with not only books like these... but think they can trick us by what they say on the talk-shows. How can he go out there, knowing that the truth lays on the side with Jon Stewart?

The only rationale I can think of... is that Hayes and the rest of them are psychotic. And I mean that literally. Maybe there is a more accurate term, as I'm not versed in psychological, and scientific, etc terminology. But I have a feeling that the only reason a person would be willing to go on national television to try and defend a lie, which can clearly be debunked, thus making themselves look like an idiot... because they literally have something wrong in their heads.

Or maybe he just unbelievable stupid. But, writing books like this shows this was all premeditated, and it takes SOME kind of brain to put a book together. So I think stupidity is out.

Or maybe.... it is just that he doesn't care what people think. He just goes out there, looks like a fool, and then collects his check from the evil men in the White House. I just don't get why the White House or whomever it is telling him to go out there and lie, how that person could have faith that the messenger they are sending out can actually trick us.

That makes me wonder about this mysterious person behind the curtain. Who thinks they can send someone out there to fool us? Again, the truth is against them, so why do they think that ANYONE can go out there and spin things?

I do not get these people.

Publishers set up these book tours. He goes on the show, gets his butt handed to him, fellow conservative sycophants say "Awwww, that nasty librul beat up our boy" and go buy more books. It's just the way things are done in their world.

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Erroll,

Good point!

But sometimes the "morality" and "illegal nature" of these things gets lost on the American audience. Shoving Dick Cheney's own words into his face is still very effective, IMO.

If it were I interviewing this hack, I would have brought up the fact that one of the architects of this war, Richard Perle, has explicitly stated that this war was illegal -- in 2003!!!

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That was very powerful. JS was graceful yet forceful (without being a bully). Definitely struck a chord with the audience!

Now, if only a few more politicians could say what Jon is saying, we'd have something.

For anyone who didn't get to see the 1994 video of Cheney, here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnV4tMvI0ME

As I watched that, echoes of the sentence, "You're either with us or you're with the terrorists" kept playing in my head. Seems that's pretty damned close to calling anyone who wasn't with them a traitor.

The funny thing about the 1994 video of Cheney is that I saw in before a year ago...in AP History...two years ago! That means high school students are more inform than a majority of America, which hopefully improve the future of our country! :)

Simon White-Thatch Potentloins @ 29:

That was very powerful. JS was graceful yet forceful (without being a bully). Definitely struck a chord with the audience!

Now, if only a few more politicians could say what Jon is saying, we'd have something.

Not only politicans, but how about the MSM "doing it's job" ; but as we know,
there are not many journalist out there who can do so because the MSM is
owned/controlled by BIG business and the Corporations.

Jon Stewart is AWESOME and such an asset to what little free speech we have left in this country.

Stephen Hayes is clearly exercising his right to free (and government sanctioned) speech as well his cheerful expertise as a professional fellator.

acquiescence=acceptance or agreement without protest

Anyone who HASN'T seen the video should watch it...This one includes it with also a Stephanopis smackdown of Cheney on live TV.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnV4tMvI0ME

I highly reccomend watching this Video and passing it along, it needs to be kept out in the open and above the flod.

I love it when Hayes tries to say he doesn't think anyone was questioning people's patriotism, and Jon just smiles while the whole audience calls bullshit.

Hayes couldn't answer a couple of the questions - either he couldn't or wouldn't.

frenchfries @ 23:

I was hoping he would say something about Gibson. And I think it was just perfect: Not naming him (only "some idiot") while making perfectly clear that he was upset and unnerved but didn't want to reward it with some further discussion.

"Some idiot" Gibson. I think that was totally apropriate.

I was kind of hoping to hear his name actually. Its time to start playing hard with Fox, and start singling out these bitches.

StirFry @ 38:

Hayes couldn't answer a couple of the questions - either he couldn't or wouldn't.

frenchfries @ 23:

I was hoping he would say something about Gibson. And I think it was just perfect: Not naming him (only "some idiot") while making perfectly clear that he was upset and unnerved but didn't want to reward it with some further discussion.

"Some idiot" Gibson. I think that was totally apropriate.

I was kind of hoping to hear his name actually. Its time to start playing hard with Fox, and start singling out these bitches.

As someone pointed out in a C&L thead yesterday, Jon Stewart and Gibson worked
together in the past and Stewart not "calling him out by name" shows the class and
type of person Stewart is.

Stephen Hayes, Card carrying Member of Amalgamated Bullshit artists, Local 453

I'l never buy this book and will pledge to flip it over if I come across it in a bookstore. Hayes had no intention of writing a biography, it's apparent in this interview, he was paid to defend a monster and that's what he'll be known as forever more - Cheney's autobiographer. What a stupid career move. I doubt he was allowed to write anything without Cheney's final approval, and he looks like the right wimp for the job.

"I do not get these people"

me neither. Karl really believed the 06 election was in the bag. We are being told to trust the occupation/surge for 6 months over and over again. And the amount of cockiness on the part of neo cons is outrageous. What ever it could be i don't feel we have time to wai t for the other shoe to drop. Will no one apprehend the culprits? Somewhere there are perps that are out to destroy every freedom for everybody. Is somebody holding out for a mega giant coup that could incapacitate the entire continent?
I try not to let fear rule me. It's getting harder and harder.

Why is Jon's show used as a pr platform for people selling books?

With this interview, Jon more than made up for his far-too-chummy talk with Bill Kristol a couple days ago. I think the "idiot" John Gibson really shook him up and he's even more ready to fight now. Go Jon!

Cheney pronounces his name "chee-nee", not "chain-ee".

He gets a kick out of others bungling his name. I would bet that this is his way of distancing himself from his revolting actions, thus, making him feel better about himself ("that's somebody else they're talking about").

I would say it's a good thing to start addressing him "chee-nee". A little psychological war with the bastard might be the only way to agitate him.

I'm surprised that these guys still go on television. Well, I guess he might sell a few more books to the knuckel-draggers.

I would've really liked Jon to have pointed out "Yeah, but, Iraq had NOTHING TO DO with 9-11" and "But there WERE no WMDs- they lied about that." Therefore bringing up the whole point that the entire invasion was ILLEGAL and we were LIED INTO IT by these guys.

Just Me @ 46:

Cheney pronounces his name "chee-nee", not "chain-ee".

He gets a kick out of others bungling his name. I would bet that this is his way of distancing himself from his revolting actions, thus, making him feel better about himself ("that's somebody else they're talking about").

I would say it's a good thing to start addressing him "chee-nee". A little psychological war with the bastard might be the only way to agitate him.

Funny, I thought his last name was pronounced "hed", as in Dick Head.

►Runs-With-Dog◄ @ 30:

For anyone who didn't get to see the 1994 video of Cheney, here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnV4tMvI0ME

TDS and everyone else needs to keep showing this clip as often as possible. It might also be considered evidence in Darth''s impeachment.

PNAAC Minister @ 50:

►Runs-With-Dog◄ @ 30:

For anyone who didn't get to see the 1994 video of Cheney, here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnV4tMvI0ME

TDS and everyone else needs to keep showing this clip as often as possible. It might also be considered evidence in Darth''s impeachment.

That is kind of what the written commentary near the end says.

Doggiebobo @ 39:

As someone pointed out in a C&L thead yesterday, Jon Stewart and Gibson worked
together in the past and Stewart not "calling him out by name" shows the class and
type of person Stewart is.

I suppose you are right. I'm just still fekking pissed at Gibby for that ignorant stunt.

New Name @ 22--Certainly it seems these people must at least be schizoid. Who u gonna believe, Stephen Hayes or your lying eyes/ears?

The reception JS's audience gave vs. the reception he likely gets from NeoCon audiences are as different as night and day. And seeing how totally differently the two camps view him is enough to make ME crazy (but then, I don't claim to be normal).

I dunno. Does Hayes do it for the money/glory?

Again ... I know its been said in previous comments ... but why does it take a comedian on basic cable to ask these obvious questions that Americans want answered? The MSM is so busy tossing Rove's salad as he leaves DC and they still haven't taken on Cheney? They leave that to Stewart (and Moore, Miller and Rhodes)? What the hell is wrong with this picture?

Good job as always Jon. Always tough, on point, disarming, and just plain right.

#48-Citizen J

My comments at post #20 echo what you have written.

Karen Hughes of Dick.
sounds disgusting, you gave me a visual I would rather have not pop into my head. But then I have a warped mind and a vivid imagination. To me it sounds a little like the title of some bad pornographic video, like Crusty Cakes does Cincinnati.

I am sick

StirFry @ 52:

Doggiebobo @ 39:

As someone pointed out in a C&L thead yesterday, Jon Stewart and Gibson worked
together in the past and Stewart not "calling him out by name" shows the class and
type of person Stewart is.

I suppose you are right. I'm just still fekking pissed at Gibby for that ignorant stunt.

Me too, but Gibbon in not the only monkey on Faux Noise...they all belong in cages
in a Zoo.

Several points I'd like to make:

1 - This country is not polarized by accident. It's the Bush/Rove/Cheney/GOP political strategy of polarization, together with the GOP/Bush gross incompetence that those of us on the left can see and those on the right can't or refuse to see, that has so polarized this nation.

2 - 1994 Cheney wasn't in a position of starting a war in Iraq and getting no bid government contracts steered to Halliburton like 2003 Cheney was.

3 - Propagandist for Profit like Hayes should be deported.

L.A. Confidential @ 44:

Why is Jon's show used as a pr platform for people selling books?

I doubt if one person who watched this would buy his book based on this interview. Someone has to do it to expose these frauds.
Some have criticized Jon for not correcting him on several points. I thinks it brilliant that Jon doesn't swallow that bait. To catch a rat, first you have to corner it than parallel with it while moving forward. Where most TV journalist (that's a joke) do is corner them and if they make slightest they move counter and thus the rat scurries away. Jon keep following up on the same question, without being hostel and eventually got him. Brilliant.
Most TV journalist believe they have to get in many questions into an allotted time and miss many opportunities to set the record straight and hold these people accountable for their words and actions. I very sad that Jon is one of the few understands this.
I hope Oberman will soon drop going to the same 5 or 6 guys for comments and start going right after these propagandist on a one to one basis,

Tom Sawyer @ 59:

L.A. Confidential @ 44:

Why is Jon's show used as a pr platform for people selling books?

I doubt if one person who watched this would buy his book based on this interview. Someone has to do it to expose these frauds.
Some have criticized Jon for not correcting him on several points. I thinks it brilliant that Jon doesn't swallow that bait. To catch a rat, first you have to corner it than parallel with it while moving forward. Where most TV journalist (that's a joke) do is corner them and if they make slightest they move counter and thus the rat scurries away. Jon keep following up on the same question, without being hostel and eventually got him. Brilliant.
Most TV journalist believe they have to get in many questions into an allotted time and miss many opportunities to set the record straight and hold these people accountable for their words and actions. I very sad that Jon is one of the few understands this.
I hope Oberman will soon drop going to the same 5 or 6 guys for comments and start going right after these propagandist on a one to one basis,

KO would, but almost ALL of them-there idiots on the other side refuse to come on his
show; knowing that they would be in very, very deep doo doo if doing so.

This is the best video clip I've seen of Jon Stewart, the first time I've seen him demolish an argument by logic.

I'M GOING OUT NOW AND BUY THIS BOOK!!!...YESSIREE!!!... I'll use the pages to change the paper is my bird's cage...

Tim @ 54:

Again ... I know its been said in previous comments ... but why does it take a comedian on basic cable to ask these obvious questions that Americans want answered? The MSM is so busy tossing Rove's salad as he leaves DC and they still haven't taken on Cheney? They leave that to Stewart (and Moore, Miller and Rhodes)? What the hell is wrong with this picture?

You probably already know the answer to this:

Clinton left us a legacy of media conglomerates gobbling up all the independents. Today, over 90% of "mainstream media" is now owned by a handful of huge companies, some of which profit from war.

As discussed in a previous thread, "mainstream media" is hardly mainstream. It's corporate media, and those corporations are 100% republican.

If you work for one of them and you want to keep your job, you become part of the corporate problem, and you don't report "mainstream" news.

It really is that simple.

blackspeak,DC,USA @ 62:

I'M GOING OUT NOW AND BUY THIS BOOK!!!...YESSIREE!!!... I'll use the pages to change the paper is my bird's cage...

You might want to reconsider inasmuch since R. Murdoch will soon be taking over the
WSJ and that paper is much cheaper(and larger) than price of book.

Ruthless People @ 58:

Several points I'd like to make:

1 - This country is not polarized by accident. It's the Bush/Rove/Cheney/GOP political strategy of polarization, together with the GOP/Bush gross incompetence that those of us on the left can see and those on the right can't or refuse to see, that has so polarized this nation.

2 - 1994 Cheney wasn't in a position of starting a war in Iraq and getting no bid government contracts steered to Halliburton like 2003 Cheney was.

3 - Propagandist for Profit like Hayes should be deported.

One more point:

4 - That video of 1994 Cheney should be used in an international court of law to help convict Cheney of war crimes and crimes against humanity. Send him to The Hague to face the music.

The more you learn about the Bush regime the more you come to understand their opposition to an international criminal court isn't to protect rank and file Americans but rather to protect themselves from their heinous crimes. Their lying warmongering asses would be the first ones hauled before the court. There is very little difference between Saddam and Dick Cheney....except maybe that Cheney has caused the deaths and suffering of more innocent people than Saddam at this point.

Just Me @ 63:

Tim @ 54:

Again ... I know its been said in previous comments ... but why does it take a comedian on basic cable to ask these obvious questions that Americans want answered? The MSM is so busy tossing Rove's salad as he leaves DC and they still haven't taken on Cheney? They leave that to Stewart (and Moore, Miller and Rhodes)? What the hell is wrong with this picture?

You probably already know the answer to this:

Clinton left us a legacy of media conglomerates gobbling up all the independents. Today, over 90% of "mainstream media" is now owned by a handful of huge companies, some of which profit from war.

As discussed in a previous thread, "mainstream media" is hardly mainstream. It's corporate media, and those corporations are 100% republican.

If you work for one of them and you want to keep your job, you become part of the corporate problem, and you don't report "mainstream" news.

It really is that simple.

So true and accurate...and it appears as if it'll only get worse. Thank goodness for
the Internet. Anyone relying upon today's MSM is not in touch w/reality.

Owned

Jon Stewart has shown everyone how a real journalist and a real patriot behaves.

Jon, I thank you, and this country thanks you!

blackspeak,DC,USA @ 62:

I'M GOING OUT NOW AND BUY THIS BOOK!!!...YESSIREE!!!... I'll use the pages to change the paper is my bird's cage...

why would spend that much money to get paper to line your bird's cage. better ways to spend your cash

This book will be shortly in the discount book section for $3.99. Then we can buy it and use the pages for toilet paper.

Putting this in some perspective, Hayes book has been out about two weeks and it's currently ranked #427 on Amazon.com. In other words, no one but a few Freepers are buying.

Barry @ 70:

This book will be shortly in the discount book section for $3.99. Then we can buy it and use the pages for toilet paper.

That seems appropriate....wiping one's butt with shitty paper perfect for an asswipe.

Just Me @ 46:

Cheney pronounces his name "chee-nee", not "chain-ee".

But of course. It sounds more like "cheat" that way and is therefore more fitting to his nature. Dick Cheat-nee. Absolutely.

Barry @ 70:

This book will be shortly in the discount book section for $3.99. Then we can buy it and use the pages for toilet paper.

I still wouldn't buy it. Steal it maybe - or accidentally spill my super sized slurpee on the display table at Barnes & Noble.......

Stewart is truly amazing (especially considered side-by-side with the irresponsible hacks other networks hire to interview people). He invites a man on his show, gives him the opportunity to speak ( a little less than he should have, perhaps), maintains his cool and his logic, is funny, and apologizes for any transgression of politeness he may have made--all of this when you know he finds the person on the other side of the table reprehensible. No 'Cut his mic', no personal attack: a model of giving the benefit of the doubt when none is deserved. He is a national treasure, and in spite of the surely cynical reasons the corporate network keeps him on the air (he turns a profit), there is a bright spot in broadcast journalism. We're lucky to have Jon Stewart.

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Just Me @ 63:

Tim @ 54:

Again ... I know its been said in previous comments ... but why does it take a comedian on basic cable to ask these obvious questions that Americans want answered? The MSM is so busy tossing Rove's salad as he leaves DC and they still haven't taken on Cheney? They leave that to Stewart (and Moore, Miller and Rhodes)? What the hell is wrong with this picture?

You probably already know the answer to this:

Clinton left us a legacy of media conglomerates gobbling up all the independents. Today, over 90% of "mainstream media" is now owned by a handful of huge companies, some of which profit from war.

As discussed in a previous thread, "mainstream media" is hardly mainstream. It's corporate media, and those corporations are 100% republican.

If you work for one of them and you want to keep your job, you become part of the corporate problem, and you don't report "mainstream" news.

It really is that simple.

So what is your point "Just Me Says"? Is all of the cheney/bush clusterf**k in Iraq, Afghanistan, the US and the rest of the world Clinton's fault? Go flog your trash elsewhere, asshole.

Jon does a great job of making the guy look like an idiot, but his framing is still off base. The issue isn't that Cheney is incompetent, it's that he's a liar and a thug.

John is awesome. He conveyed the frustration felt by most of us perfectly, better than anyone else has. It's funny how simple it is actually.

Don't lie to us, Dick.

Unfortunately, we all saw Dick lie, and now we're in the mess we're in. What an avoidable mess.

Now Stephen Hayes can multi-task when he sits on the toilet. 'Cause Stewart cut him a new asshole.

Jon Stewart is cementing himself as one of the most hard-nosed interviewers in history. He's no Mike Wallace, but Jon is every bit as tenacious at asking the questions that people want asked. All other interviews that Hayes will give while promoting his book won't even touch this.

Barry at 70, I think the best fate for this book is just to stand stockpiled in the publisher's warehouse forever.

Chris @ 21:

That shows some class not going after either John Gibson or Stephen Hayes. He didn't let either man get the best of him by showing anger. I think his one line about John Gibson got his point across more effectively then doing an entire segment on it. If someone made fun of my grief on 9/11 I wouldn't have been a class act like John Stewart. Way to go John Stewart!

I agree. I think he recognizes that some of these nimrods like Gibson are saying wacked out things just to get people to talk about him. Best way to do that is to be the biggest jackass you can be. For Gibson, it was making fun of someone pained after 9-11.

The funniest thing, however: You calling him "John" Stewart! Didn't he make fun of himself because he doesn't have an H in his name?

Yellow Elephant Safari @ 74:

Barry @ 70:

This book will be shortly in the discount book section for $3.99. Then we can buy it and use the pages for toilet paper.

I still wouldn't buy it. Steal it maybe - or accidentally spill my super sized slurpee on the display table at Barnes & Noble.......

Won't they just give it away for free on some conservative website so they can claim it's a best seller?

Ex-Canuck @ 77:

Just Me @ 63:

Tim @ 54:

Again ... I know its been said in previous comments ... but why does it take a comedian on basic cable to ask these obvious questions that Americans want answered? The MSM is so busy tossing Rove's salad as he leaves DC and they still haven't taken on Cheney? They leave that to Stewart (and Moore, Miller and Rhodes)? What the hell is wrong with this picture?

You probably already know the answer to this:

Clinton left us a legacy of media conglomerates gobbling up all the independents. Today, over 90% of "mainstream media" is now owned by a handful of huge companies, some of which profit from war.

As discussed in a previous thread, "mainstream media" is hardly mainstream. It's corporate media, and those corporations are 100% republican.

If you work for one of them and you want to keep your job, you become part of the corporate problem, and you don't report "mainstream" news.

It really is that simple.

So what is your point "Just Me Says"? Is all of the cheney/bush clusterf**k in Iraq, Afghanistan, the US and the rest of the world Clinton's fault? Go flog your trash elsewhere, asshole.

Wow, that was quite a vulgar trashing you delivered to me.

Learn your history, smartass. Bill Clinton, although one of my favorite presidents, was responsible for the current media conglomerationss. And I said nothing of Iraq; you did.

It is a shame that moderators here can't edit or delete posts like yours. You are clueless, rude, and you appear to be a very bitter person.

I like that Stewart didn't refer to Gibson by name, whereas Gibson trashed Stewart by name on his radio "program." It highlights their respective stature quite well.

The Main Stream Media is completely cowed by the Administration.

The Major Networks and The New York Times have been accused (for the last 25 years)
by conservative groups of being biased (as biased as Fox"News" is), the result being, that
they back down at every opportunity to provide real analysis of the deceptions of this
Administration.

Jon Stewart has to make the MSM and Networks blush and ashamed.

This must be neo-con week on the Daily Show. First, we had to see and listen to Bill Kristol and his maniacal rant about how great things are in Iraq. Jon should have nailed him and did not. Why, I will never figure out. Last night, it was Stephen Hayes and Jon came out swinging. Maybe Hayes was his target and that is why he was such a dork with Kristol.

Blue Buddha @ 16:

Ex-Canuck @ 11:

The old line of "everything changed after 9-11" does not excuse blood lust, especially when plans were in the works to take out Sadaam before bush was even chosen by the SCOTUS.

I liked how Stewart countered "everything changed after 9-11" with "but there wasn't a rift in the space-time continuum." :lol:

absolutely - 9/11 didn't change physics or sunni shia relations or the fact that attacked people fight back
"9/11 changed everything" what a jackass

funny - 13 years ago we get 1994 dick cheney

now we have 1984 dick cheney

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gU5gA6IcIpk

Saying "9-11 changed everything" is an outright admission of rank cowardice. Even if you accept the dubious assertion that our civil liberties and adherence to the law somehow made us less secure-- even if you accept this ridiculous claim-- saying "9-11 changed everything" still amounts to nothing but cowardice.

Only a coward abandons their stated principles the moment they become inconvenient or-- *gasp*-- dangerous. Only the truly yellow could send someone else to fight and die in a foreign country to "defend freedom" while willingly surrendering it themselves, just because they feel a little scared sitting at home.

It's repulsive.

[...] and Hannity. A personality of such insignificant that Stewart didn’t even bother to mention his name a few days later, opting instead for “some idiot”. Me? Personally? I guess I’m [...]

Ruthless People @ 58:

2 - 1994 Cheney wasn't in a position of starting a war in Iraq and getting no bid government contracts steered to Halliburton like 2003 Cheney was.

This point should have been brought up during the interview AND when they showed that clip.

This point should have been brought up when the very first no-bid contract was awarded to Haliburton/KBR/etc. The repug's would have had a field day if "Clinton did it!"

[...] Cheney's Quagmire now reality A clip well worth watching. Crooks and Liars

How's this for a bumper sticker: There's a reason Cheney doesn't call himself RICHARD !

John said it perfectly as to how I've felt since the beginning of the invasion of Iraq.

Thank you John for saying that I'm not a traitor for KNOWING that we're going about the so-called war on Terror incorrectly.

Thank you for asking for HONESTY from the administration when it comes to the very important issue of war and peace.

Hayes can sell plenty of books to the 29%. I think this whole administration is in the "steal everything on the way out of the hotel room" mode.

Hey Errol, you are an idiot and its sad that you try to pick apart a debate that lasts about 1 minute. How can Stewart possibly be expected to point out all the problems with invading Iraq? Pointing out there were no WMDs is beating a dead horse and would probably have made John Stewart look bad (like another liberal who keeps bringing up the same issue). Instead John came up with some new dirt on Cheney that none of us were aware about, faaaaar more interesting than you pointing out something thats been said a million times. You have no concept of reality if you are going to seriously criticize John's inability to point out every mistake of Cheneys within such a short period of time. After all, the interview wasn't necessarily about the Iraq war (although you seem convinced it was) but rather a book promotion. Again, you should think before you attack.

Jon was right on!

Old Billy @ 97:

Hayes can sell plenty of books to the 29%. I think this whole administration is in the "steal everything on the way out of the hotel room" mode.

haha..this one is classic. I wish I could come up with stuff this funny. When I'm made though my sense of humor shuts down for some reason. Someone earlier in the comments said these people must be psychotic because they knowingly defend lies and get called out for it. My opinion...the mind is a very powerful thing and we have deep forces in our subconscious. I think these people are in denial or they are weighing things and think they are somehow doing the right thing. I don't think they all know they are lying and are expressly doing so for money or power. I think some definitely are but most are like a desperate alcoholic unable to admit they have a problem.

Jon Stewart panders too much to the right wing. He is feel good for progressives.

Also he likes to portray progressives as victims saying, "Why does the Bush Administration make us feel stupid for saying Iraq is a mess".

Kryptik @ 14:

I was disappointed Jon onlly gave that one jab toward Gibson.

Other than that....bang on deconstruction of a liar. Keep showing people why Daily Show is still more trusted than 'real' news, Jon!!

Daily show IS the real news.

Thanks Jon, now I have a headache too........

@7 percent of America should run out and buy that book before the GOP buys every last one to promote their partry's image in the book market place of popularity.

Like the do with Ann Coulter's books. You think hannity will buy "Cheney " the book?

Stephen Hayes=tool. Stephen. hows the Jon Stewart's cakewalk feel you toad?

Jon Stuart is perhaps one of the nicest people on the planet. He was gracious and still challenged this Bushco synchophant. Would that we all could be so smart and pure. It's the example we need. All of us who feel nothing but disdain for this regime should take notice. We can counter their hate with brains and kindness.

"sycophantic?" cmon now

kerplunk @ 101:

Also he likes to portray progressives as victims saying, "Why does the Bush Administration make us feel stupid for saying Iraq is a mess".

I would call that a radically incorrect interpretation of the text. What he's saying is, "Why does the Bush Administration and its sycophants persistently label critics as cowards and traitors." It's a different question, but he knows how to ask it with civility.

Thanks for posting this! I watched this last night and was soooo cheering the TV screen! I watched his last few comments twice it was sooo impressed. He has a great way of starting a conversation in a relaxed state and before you know it, Jon Stewart totally has pegged the guy before he knows what hit him! Excellent!

Just Me @ 85:

Ex-Canuck @ 77:

Just Me @ 63:

Tim @ 54:

You probably already know the answer to this:

Clinton left us a legacy of media conglomerates gobbling up all the independents. Today, over 90% of "mainstream media" is now owned by a handful of huge companies, some of which profit from war.

As discussed in a previous thread, "mainstream media" is hardly mainstream. It's corporate media, and those corporations are 100% republican.

If you work for one of them and you want to keep your job, you become part of the corporate problem, and you don't report "mainstream" news.

It really is that simple.

So what is your point "Just Me Says"? Is all of the cheney/bush clusterf**k in Iraq, Afghanistan, the US and the rest of the world Clinton's fault? Go flog your trash elsewhere, asshole.

Wow, that was quite a vulgar trashing you delivered to me.

Learn your history, smartass. Bill Clinton, although one of my favorite presidents, was responsible for the current media conglomerationss. And I said nothing of Iraq; you did.

It is a shame that moderators here can't edit or delete posts like yours. You are clueless, rude, and you appear to be a very bitter person.

Not recognizing where problems originate is the hallmark of the bottom 29%. The FACT is that Clinton himself will tell you that was the biggest mistake he made while in office so there is nothing wrong with pointing this out in the context of this thread.

To the commenter that suggested that this was the first time Stewart has skewered someone on his show I suggest you watch more regularly. It happens quite often.

Old Billy @ 97:

Hayes can sell plenty of books to the 29%. I think this whole administration is in the "steal everything on the way out of the hotel room" mode.

I doubt that many of those will buy the book. Like most other books by/about right-wingers, the RNC will buy and distribute thousands of copies, as will activists like Grover Norquist.

And, yeah, they're tryin' to clean out the country on their way out the door- just like they falsely accused the Clintons of doin' with the White House furniture. Get ready fer those justifications.

to whoever made the comment about him being psychotic, i think the word you're looking for is sociopath. someone who will lie, cheat, steal, hurt as many people as it takes to get whatever they want with no guilt whatsoever.

Professor Farnsworth @ 69:

blackspeak,DC,USA @ 62:

I'M GOING OUT NOW AND BUY THIS BOOK!!!...YESSIREE!!!... I'll use the pages to change the paper is my bird's cage...

why would spend that much money to get paper to line your bird's cage. better ways to spend your cash

the nytimes is cheaper, also WaPo.

Just Me @ 63:

Tim @ 54:

Again ... I know its been said in previous comments ... but why does it take a comedian on basic cable to ask these obvious questions that Americans want answered? The MSM is so busy tossing Rove's salad as he leaves DC and they still haven't taken on Cheney? They leave that to Stewart (and Moore, Miller and Rhodes)? What the hell is wrong with this picture?

You probably already know the answer to this:

Clinton left us a legacy of media conglomerates gobbling up all the independents. Today, over 90% of "mainstream media" is now owned by a handful of huge companies, some of which profit from war.

As discussed in a previous thread, "mainstream media" is hardly mainstream. It's corporate media, and those corporations are 100% republican.

If you work for one of them and you want to keep your job, you become part of the corporate problem, and you don't report "mainstream" news.

It really is that simple.

i.e. It's Clinton's fault.

How come no one blame's Clinton's congress for the bad things, but will gladly and freely give the congress credit for the good things?

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jr @ 12:

Only in America would a comedian have to do the work that journalists won't do for fear of not getting invited to any more beltway dinner parties

I know our media is a joke, but "only in america" comments are pretty stupid. I'd say our level of journalistic freedom is still above the 80th percentile. But yes it sucks.

Jon Stewart showed obvious signs that he was furious over what those Faux News retards said about him. Its not surprising to me that he took it out on the first Bush apologist that came along.

He's only human.

At 16% approval rating it is safe to say that fluff biographies for the pacemaker are a niche market.

If this were a boxing match it would have been stopped in the second round. Complete pounding handed out by JS.

Meanwhile, I am still a bit peeved at JS for allowing the rather jovial talk with he and Crystal the other night. Kristol advocates death, destruction and mayhem....no reason whatsoever to allow him a free pass, even if he is a fellow jew.

#95-Tomi

I would like to suggest that you are going to win very few arguments when you engage in irrational ad hominem attacks. Apparently your main argument, such as it is, is that no criticism of Jon Stewart can ever be allowed to happen because Stewart is revered as a liberal icon. You ask "How can Stewart possibly be expected to point out all the problems with Iraq"? As I attempted to explain at post #20, apparently to no avail, all I wished Stewart to tell Hayes was that the invasion of Iraq was based upon lies and falsehoods, therefore making the occupation illegal and proving that there is no justifiable reason for the United States to continue occupying and brutalizing and terrorizing the Iraqi people. You seem to believe that this would have somehow taken the whole interview for Stewart to state what I had written when in actuality it probably would have taken, considering how fast Stewart speaks, about twenty seconds to make those assertions. Contrary to what you believe, saying this would have made Stewart sound knowledgeable and intelligent.

You claim that the interview was not about the Iraq war. To refresh your recollection of the interview [which, despite your claim of being one minute, lasted about six or seven minutes] Hayes, to borrow a legal expression, opened the door when he claimed that Iraq actually possessed those mythical WMD and was one of the reasons why the U.S. [illegally] attacked Iraq [along with, later on, claiming that they went in to topple Saddam Hussein and to impose democracy upon the Iraqis at the point of a gun]. That is when Stewart could have succinctly informed Hayes and his audience that the invasion, and ipso facto, the occupation, was and still is illegal. I believe, despite your assertion, that the people of this country need to be reminded that this occupation of Iraq has been illegal, violating the UN Charter, the Geneva convention, the U.S. Constitution, the Nuremberg Principle, all of which state that wars of aggression are illegal under international treaties. Since most Americans receive their news from television and the mainstream media, it is highly doubtful if they have seen fit to inform America's citizens that their government has lied to them, which is why it would certainly not hurt for Jon Stewart to reiterate that information to his audience.

I just found out that if you call the phone company to tell them that you are moving, that you can't have two phone numbers. It was weird. I called to tell them that we had bought a house and that we wanted to keep the current services that we have now until the end of the month and he said that I couldn't put in a "moving phone order" because things had "changed since 9/11" and I said, "I can't have two phone numbers?" and he said yeah, but that I would have to have two accounts. Well, duh. I had anticipated that from the beginning.

Made absolutely no sense to me.

Between Gibby's remarks about Edwards and about Stewart, one can assume by his position at Fox "News" that John Gibson knows a thing or two about being a whoring phony.

Erroll @ 20:

When Hayes argued that 9/11 somehow changed everything and that 9/11 was used as an excuse to invade Iraq, Stewart inexplicably neglected to inform Hayes that no amount of justification coming from him or his hero Cheney could justify the fact that invading Iraq was and continues to remain illegal as well as immoral. Hayes said that there was evidence that Iraq had stockpiles of WMD and Stewart allowed him to get away with that falsehood. Too often liberals like Stewart will argue strategy concerning the invasion of Iraq instead of simply pointing out that since the U.S. had no justifiable reason to invade and occupy and terrorize the people of Iraq, the takeover of Iraq never should have happened and therefore the U.S. should leave Iraq post haste. But these points were never brought across by Stewart.

You know, I actually do agree with this comment. I am not about to drag Stewart through the mud, because there are simply so many points one could make (the current administration breaks new laws, and/or fumbles with the ball, seemingly on a daily basis) and so little time to do so. And I think that individuals like Hayes derail the conversation with absurd comments pertaining to the present so that a liberal opponent such as Stewart will be sidetracked from the faulty premises the war was based on. I would love to see more liberals (Democrats, specifically) hold the administration to task by not giving them leg room insofar as their previous decisions are concerned. So, so much of what has occurred was rooted in illegal actions and blatantly false assertions.

jr @ 12:

Only in America would a comedian have to do the work that journalists won't do for fear of not getting invited to any more beltway dinner parties

Touche', touche', touche'

One good thing about Gibson calling Stewart a phony was it caused me to watch the post-9/11 Daily Show clip that he used to support his claim. I hadn't seen it since it aired, and holymotherofdog.. that was one of the most heart-felt and genuine soliloquies to come out of that tragedy. I'd forgotten.

Remember what a difficult thing it was for the various comedy shows to pick back up on their first night after the attack? Letterman? SNL?

Gibson is a lot worse than an idiot. To call someone a phony under those circumstances when the truth is so obviously the opposite. What a dick.

This is not important but it makes me crazy ..its jibe not jive. John Stewart actually gets it right and says "jibe" ..you transcribe it as jive..its often is misspoke as this.

►Runs-With-Dog◄ @ 36:

Anyone who HASN'T seen the video should watch it...This one includes it with also a Stephanopis smackdown of Cheney on live TV.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnV4tMvI0ME

I highly reccomend watching this Video and passing it along, it needs to be kept out in the open and above the flod.

Good one, thanks for the link. It´s bookmarked.

[...] Jon Stewart Grills Cheney Biographer Stephen Hayes. this guy looked like a fool. [...]

9/11 changed absolutely nothing...it was just a needed component to kick of the PNAC agenda which pre-existed way before 9/11.

2001 Powell & Rice Declare Iraq Has No WMD and Is Not a Threat
http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/powell-no-wmd.htm

Zelikow is one of those crooks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuoQZkBFj9A

Bush, Dick and John Gibson are pussies.

You felt the conviction in Jon's voice when he was talking. Stewart is a true patriot.

I love Jon Stewart. I hate Dick Cheney. But I thought Jon kinda did a lame job here. The biggest thing with Dick is his secrecy and lack of accountability...not his ability to change his mind. Jon, pobably in the heat of the moment, dropped the ball here.

I cannot imagine anyone actually writing a book about Dick Cheney. Who in the world would by it, except for Dick Cheney?

[...] and Hannity. A personality of such insignificant that Stewart didn’t even bother to mention his name a few days later, opting instead for “some idiot”. Me? Personally? I guess I’m [...]

Jon just gets better and better at interviewing people like this neanderthal Hayes. Jon can cut the idiots off at the knees and they enjoy it because he does it with such aplomb....all the while smiling and making the fools think they are his BFF.

Go Jon...

Jon Stewart is so spot-on with his comments. He gets right to the meat of the matter. One of my favorite things to see is when "they" go after him and he beats them up without even breaking a sweat.
Oh yeah; and Elizabeth, it's "Jon" Stewart, not "John". Your spelling did not "jibe" with the way he spells it. (Just "jivin' " ya'. LOL)

I just started watching the Daily show and love it. But in this short time I can't recall a JS interview quite as intense as this one was towards the end. Jon was like right up in his face (or as close as you could get with a table between them_ and Hayes just sat back and didn't know what hit him.

It was great.

I think Jon had him in his sights the moment Hayes proclaimed that Cheney was the best VP ever. It's obvious this guy was more then a biographer. He's a Dick Cheney groupie.

I am a bit dissapointed he didn't go after Kristol the same way. Or at least take him to task a bit more. They acted like my daughter would call "frenemies"

Why is it that the only place you can hear such serious nail-them-to-the-wall interviewing is on COMEDY Central?

DNS @ 136:

Why is it that the only place you can hear such serious nail-them-to-the-wall interviewing is on COMEDY Central?

BECAUSE the MSM is completely cowed by this Administration.

Jon is not only funny but demonstrates an insightful deeper intellect, quick wit, responsibility to his personal convictions within the framework/format of his show and honesty with humility in apologizing when HE felt that he had overstepped his perceived role as an interviewer. all class....we would do well to emulate his style.
notice Mr. Hayes posture, hands and inability to look at Jon at times. He's there to sell his book knowing it's not his real view. He would, perhaps, do better stating that his book portrays Cheney as Cheney sees himself and his role in this debacle and told to Mr. Hayes who then wrote the book so that Americans could know what a nut case Cheney is. If not insane then he must be a wholesale liar without any responsibility to America or its citizens. That would require Mr. Hayes to act with moral responsibility much as Jon did at the end of the interview. ( he might even sell more books )

Also, I'm sick and tired of journalists, pundits, commentators, biographers, scholars, et al. responding to penetrating criticism of their argument by saying things like, "Yes, an argument could be made...", or "Sure, there's an argument to be made..." If the person criticizing you is making a valid argument, then admit it! If it's a valid argument, you should agree with it! And if you're smart and informed you should have known about this argument in advance. In which case, why did you take the position you took in your sycophantic power-loving piece of shit? If you think it's not a valid argument, refute it! But if you take a position and someone like Stewart shows you that it's completely wrong, it's pathetic to adopt a pseudo-Olympian perspective and withdraw into graduate-seminar thought-experiment formulations. We are not speculating on abstract theories of ontology here; this is the real world. You have no right to take a position on something serious when you already know that the counter argument is both valid and devastating. The next time someone like Hayes acknowledges a critic's argument by saying "Yes, an argument could be made that...", I'm going to reach for my gun.

I continue to be amazed how Conservatives come on Jon's show and underestimate his intellect. They simply aren't used to being asked REAL questions.

I love Jon Stewart. I find it sad that I have to go to Comedy Central to get objective interviews that aren't controlled by the White House or sensationalized.

Jon/Colber '08!

They used to bill The Daily Show as "The most important show... ever."

It still is.

Obligatory: Daily Showned

thank gawd for stewart and c&l and all you commenters that keep me sane. the mainstream is so friggin full of insanity that i sometimes find myself wondering if it is i who is insane.

Is there anybody better than Stewart at getting past his own anger and frustration to make very clear and concise points in this sort of political repartee? Brilliant Jon. Brialliant.

I posted a transcript of the Stephen Hayes interview on my blog, and yes, I spelled jibe correctly so as not to be jabbed for doing a poor job; that's just the cut of my jib, I guess. I also transcribed Bill Kristol from Monday's Daily Show, and I'm planning to do McCain tonight.

On the one hand, I enjoyed watching Mr. Stewart make some very reasonable points.

On the other hand, it made me a little ill to see him bashing this poor, mercenary sycophant again and again with his cruel logic.

Well, just a little ill.

Erroll @ 20:

When Hayes argued that 9/11 somehow changed everything and that 9/11 was used as an excuse to invade Iraq, Stewart inexplicably neglected to inform Hayes that no amount of justification coming from him or his hero Cheney could justify the fact that invading Iraq was and continues to remain illegal as well as immoral. Hayes said that there was evidence that Iraq had stockpiles of WMD and Stewart allowed him to get away with that falsehood. Too often liberals like Stewart will argue strategy concerning the invasion of Iraq instead of simply pointing out that since the U.S. had no justifiable reason to invade and occupy and terrorize the people of Iraq, the takeover of Iraq never should have happened and therefore the U.S. should leave Iraq post haste. But these points were never brought across by Stewart.

From the looks of things Jon was content to hoist Hayes by his own petard rather than getting bogged down in the legality aspect which would just make the interview into an argument and accomplish nothing.

I think he didn't quite mean to ream Hayes so comprehensively - he kinda had to back up a little and plug the book whose author he'd just completely shut down. And I agree that he should have brought some more of this to the Bill Krystal interview.

John Stewart is not a real person, he is just another aol time warner gumball machine. Did anyone notice how fast they replaced Dave Chapelle with the mexican guy? I think they even use some of the same comedy from the chapellle show.

John Stewart has no business representing the Democratic party.

Jon Stewart does not represent the Democratic Party. He's a comedian who hosts a political satire show.

And, he kicks ass.

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