A little less support for the troops
By Steve Benen Wednesday Aug 22, 2007 2:00pmUS Armored Vehicles Slow to Reach Iraq
The Pentagon will fall far short of its goal of sending 3,500 lifesaving armored vehicles to Iraq by the end of the year. Instead, officials expect to send about 1,500.
Tim Grieve asks, "Is this how we support the troops?"
"Our troops are seeing this progress that is being made on the ground," Bush said. "And as they take the initiative from the enemy, they have a question: Will their elected leaders in Washington pull the rug out from under them just as they're gaining momentum and changing the dynamic on the ground in Iraq? Here's my answer is clear: We'll support our troops, we'll support our commanders, and we will give them everything they need to succeed."
Well, at it turns out, not.
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Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them.
oh well ..
youse guys will just haveto get by with what we gave you
p/s.
how long before they figure out that the people inside will still be injured??
"pulling the rug out from under the troops" -- Lindsey Graham knows how to do this on the cheap.
Grieve is the perfect personification of what's to come...
Draft some of those upper-class twit Republican college student keyboard brigades.
all the connies care about is "oil sharing agreement" they don't care if the troops have protective equipment
Now, now, let's realize that, once the juicy, no-bid, cost-plus contract has been signed, that it's MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
After all, this war doesn't cost $8 billion a week because our soldiers are firing $100 bills out of their rifles -- it's because of the f*cking WAR PROFITEERS!
And whether or not those trucks make it to Iraq, they've already made billions for some defense contractor... so now he can throw a $10 million bat mitzvah for his kid!
Dick Cheney should be in jail for life as a war profiteer.
WHY aren't US automakers (who can't sell the shit they produce) contributing to the war effort by ramping up production of these armored vehicles? Hello, GM??? Not too many morons are buying H2's these days...
Sen John Warner is on tv right now and he is suggesting that bush should announce some sort of troop reduction on Sept. 15. He's not saying how many or giving any final time line. He says it would let the Iraqis know we won't be there forever. He's hopeful that something like that will let the Iraqi govt. know we are serious and maybe they'll get their shit together.
He didn't say shit, but you know what I mean.
Warner quoted what bush said about not pulling the rug out from under our troops and he said in no way was his suggestion meant to do that.
I see...The Bush Administration is using their Katrina Strategy in Iraq. Good thinking...
What an incredible frame: "lifesaving" armored vehicles
I support the troops, unlike you dirty liberals. I have a "Support the Troops" sticker on my SUV. That's a huge commitment, because it's hard to get those stickers off when you're trading it in for an even bigger SUV.
P.S. I'm also doing my part to reduce our dependence on foreign oil. I'm developing an engine that runs on foreign blood.
George Bush speaks:
"Support th' troops"
"Hard work"
"Stay the Course"
"I'm th' Commander Guy"
"they hate ar freedom"
"I'm a useless fratboy, a dry drunk cokehead, and colossal tool, have no idea what I am doing, and in fact even my tiny little brain is beginning to percieve that I was not placed here by the real decision-makers to actually have ideas or make real decisions. My job is to just fill space so that th' plan put together by the Money Men can go apace while The People throw tomaters at me. In fact, if I ever became fully (heheheh. I love that word. Wonder it means?) aware of just what a useless lump of carbon I really am, I might have to go choke on a pretzel. Oh, and I'm a colossal tool. Did ah say that already? Stay th' course."
pissed off patricia @ 9:
as we all know they are all full of schitt, so they don't really have to use the wor, nor do they.
wor = word
Commander Guy sounds like the title for a new animated comedy by that execrable Seth McFarland.
Photographs : Purple Hearts
Images of returning Iraq war veterans by the photographer Nina Berman from an exhibit at the Jen Bekman gallery.
Since most of the equipment that we've sent to Iraq is going to stay in Iraq after we leave, I wonder if some of the foot dragging doesn't have an economic incentive. Anything sent to Iraq will be essentially supplying the Iraqi army eventually. There isn't much new equipment going to Iraq these days.
No one has died in one of those vehicles. That's a pretty good record.
So we can find money in the military budget for worthless crap like the F-22 and new long range nuclear bombers but there's no money for better armored vehicles for the troops nor a better service rifle (something IMHO is needed).
when bush speaks, it's like he is a gas bag full of methane hovering over a mountain
of pig shit. it only makes the balloon he calls his brain emptier.
Classy! President Bush; real class act! Somebody who really gets things done... Send more pretzels!
I have been screaming about the absurdity of going to war in small-j jeeps practically forever. Anyone so inclined can get specs on the vehicles in a post I wrote a little over a month ago here.
George Marshall famously said that when the U.S. had time to prepare for WW2, the military lacked the money, whereas after Pearl Harbor they had the money, but lacked the time.
The Bush administration has had six years to gear for war. They have been denied nothing by congress. Yet still American forces are subject to life-and-limb threatening shortages of essential equipments.
Where has the money gone?
I do not hesitate to accuse the administration of treason in a time of war, and congress of gross malfeasance in their oversight responsibilities. U.S. troops are daily martyred by these domestic enemies. And it is a shameful fact that the American people bear ultimate responsibility for their continuance in office.
They can't ship them without those yellow ribbon magnets on the back, you see...
H. Montague Worthington, Billionaire @ 13:
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How about you take your lazy conceited A$$ over there? You idiots are as crazy and stupid as Bush. You know we support our troops but you just have to twist it.
Support the troops by sending them into more useless battles. bush should say supporting "me" . If you ask the troops the best support you can give them is to bring them home.
Since this piece of crap in the white house has never ever succeeded in anything he has ever done, he wants to finally '''''win one"""" and is putting our troops at more and more risk to do so....
We know what kind of person he is....didn't he hide for the last year of his so called militry duty when he thought HE might have to go to Viet Nam and defend HIS country.
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OMG!
I can't believe it!
My refusal to pay an income tax (along w/millions of others) is actually having an effect on my govt'!!!
They are obviously running out of (federal reserve notes) to buy "our"
troops the equipment they need to secure (our) constitution/freedoms!
Does anyone here think I should feel guilty?
Raise your hand if you think not paying a (so called) "Income" tax (on one's wages/tips ect) ...is a good way to exercise control over one's (supposed) servant/Gov't
It must surely be better than that other option!....the one that govt uses..............Guns/violence
I wonder who actually contributes more to terrorist activity?
Me? = non taxpayer
or
you? = funder of a criminal govt!
.....stop feeding the pig...
This is disgusting.
When the president says that his base will get a tax cut, they do.
So, when he says that the troops are to get 3500 armored vehicles, they should. I mean, we are spending billions on this war, so there is no need to cut the supplies for the troops.
This man talks out of both sides of his mouth.
This is the patriotism that is shown to our troops. This is the support that is given to them.
Hey, Milque, how can I join your group of citizens?
Gee Dubya's TP
This is part of a larger issue, about our civilian leaders being unable to manage the resources at their disposable. During WWII, they mobilized the US industrial base to produce a much larger amount of equipment. Why have they (we?) failed to accomplish even a smidgen of what our grand- and great-grandfathers were able to accomplish, even with today's technology?
Well, 2500 vehicles to transport. I just googled "international car transport" and came up with several links, offering shipping to the middle east. I did not fill out the info for a quote. But let's go high and say, 10k per vehicle. 25 million to get them over there. That's an amount that could be raised in a telethon. (I suspect it could be done much cheaper.) I wonder if the vehicles are ready to ship?
This is disgusting.
When the president says that his base will get a tax cut, they do.
So, when he says that the troops are to get 3500 armored vehicles, they should. I mean, we are spending billions on this war, so there is no need to cut the supplies for the troops.
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Seems to me that it takes time to build these vehicles. It is not like they put in the order and presto, they appear out the factory in a week.
Ron.j @ 35:
Actually, that IS how it works. If the government had seriously wanted 3500 of these vehicles this year, they could have gotten them easily, starting with pulling contracts from suppliers who don't meet production deadlines. One of the articles specifically notes:
"In a late June report, the Defense Department's inspector general found that the Pentagon awarded contracts for the vehicles to companies that failed to produce them on time, despite knowing that there were other contractors who could have supplied some more quickly."
Seems to me that if your primary concern is getting vehicles where they're needed on a timely basis, you spend your money with the folks willing to do the job....
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