Bill Kristol on the TODAY Show: Surge on!
By John Amato Thursday Aug 23, 2007 4:29pm
William the Bloody was on The TODAY Show (they have a wingnut producer now) this morning being the Surge Protector for a failed policy in Iraq. When will Lauer have on a liberal to talk about the situation? It might be nice to hear Maddow, Schultz, Cenk..Jane Hamsher...Markos...Seder...anybody...They always have on wingnuts like Coulter and Kristol, but never anyone from our side discussing Iraq.
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As usual he promotes all things Iraq. No matter how wrong he has been and is right now. The purpose of the surge was to help get the political system together, but it's only gotten worse. Kristol and his crowd are stalling until Bush can get out of office. Lauer challenges William's reading of the NIE report and says that the government will continue to fail. That doesn't bother Kristol. Give us 6 more months and let the military be damned...And Warner is just an uninformed man because he dare question the neocon strategy...but everyone else are geniuses...








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Once again this assclown gets national TV time even tho he's been wrong about EVERYTHING! Way to go, corporate media.
baby jesus also wonders where in the world is the liberal Matt Lauer?
Well, there's certainly a surge of bullshit.
OT Please, anyone just tape Mike Barnacle (sp) sitting in for Hardball? He just talked about a poll and they showed the graphic. What he was saying was either BACKWARD or WRONG compared to what the graphic was showing!
"They always have on wingnuts like Coulter and Kristol, but never anyone from our side discussing Iraq."
Well you could picket these complicit media outlets...but of course they wouldn't give you any coverage.
Do they have viewer envy of Fox news? Either that or they have no idea of his past. He's the last guy to talk to if you want to know about reality. Jesus, was cheney too busy to come on their show so they got a cheney/war/killing cheerleader? No way I'll watch the clip, that guys face and voice gives me the creeps.
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! Sorry....it's become a Pavlovian response to that man's smugass face.
...and O'Reilly says NBC is the "far left" news network...
BJ was it when he was talking about Rudy being more popular with some dems than Hillary is with some Repubs. Also that Rudy was more popular with indeps than Hillary. I heard him say it but I wasn't looking at my tv at the time. It seems very hard to believe.
baby jesus is also very happy it's Friday so Bill Maher will be back
on the air waves and that advertisement is gone.
To BillO anything that isn't fox is far left. See, fox is as far right as is measurable.
we all have to learn that no matter how upset we get, no matter how many writings we have on the blogs, no matter how high we allow our blood pressure to rise, the only element that matters in this equation is money. if we threaten to boycott the sponsors of lauer's program until he allows a meadows or an al franken or randi rhodes or a maher or a big eddy, then we will not be buying their products or watching their program. that is in effect the ONLY way that we can make a difference. those who run right wing conservative programs with few exceptions do not believe in the spiel they are offering. they only believe in the almighty dollar, what will make them money or in this case what will keep them from losing money. so we can cry and complain, but the only thing that will make a difference is to write to the sponsors and let them know you will not be buying their products until there are changes. you have the power.
baby jesus, I'm also glad the ad is gone. But I'm even more glad Friday evening is approaching followed by the weekend. I'm also glad that happy hour is approaching. Can you turn water into Sapphire martinis, up, dry, with olives?
Vick has been suspended by the NFL
I'll drink to that.
Sorry to go off topic but that's such good news and we could all use good news as the weekend approaches.
Matt's not wearing his Wrist Strong bracelet.
Hmm you have to wonder why the networks keep putting someone on their shows who is a proven liar and who markets deception time and time again. Think about it..corporations run these networks and all of them have an agenda. How can someone so clueless have any credibility on anything? Why would they ask a moron how to solve a puzzle? It doesn't make sense unless they want their viewers to believe this asshole.
NBC - Nothing But Conservobabblers
Keith Olbermann notwithstanding.
A liberal?!
Peeh... it's the liberals' fault in the first place for the failures in Iraq... let Kristol do the talking, he can help amureekah turn the corner on this war.
ts...ts..ts..
Kristol has books behind him. He must be smart! Seriously, I can't even click the link to watch that smarmy daddy's boy.
I don't mind the networks bringing on these wingnuts....as long as they're challenged when they say something stupid or incorrect. Too often, they get a free pass and are allowed to spout their nonsense without a question.
baby jesus can work miracles with adult beverages
pray to the imaginary friend of your choice and I will answer
Is it me or are Kristol and Lieberman looking like the exact same person these days?
The Truth Hurts @ 21:
brought to you by those friendly mass killers at the 5 sided building
baby jesus @ 22:
i think baby jesus should stay away from these fair skinned wankers . . . . no telling what they do in the woods
I never watch the show. Is it far and unbalanced also?
I guess I'm not a TV type guy. :(
Thanks bj (baby Jesus) I'll keep that in mind. Can you make all the right wing wankers lose their voice until this damned war can end? I'll trade the adult beverages for that. Please start with Kristol. No injuries, just a bad case of laryngitis.
Kristol really should be included on the Neocon Gold album in "schizophonic sound":
http://blip.tv/file/340644
So we're siding with the Sunnis while Government sides with the Shiites. Double plus progress, Bill!
baby jesus erred in allowing Kristol senior to procreate,
however Jr. Kristol is all part of the plan to test the silly little humans
Another fine example of GE "Bringing things to light". Yeah, right. They do excel at taking their customers to the cleaners, in this case information consumers. Too bad GE/NBC can't take a lesson from Olberman's ratings, which are out the roof. Here's a hint GE/NBC guys: most people are hungry for the truth, not propaganda, not lies, not manipulation. Truth tellers are rewarded with viewership.
and these morons continue to bitch and moan about the "liberal media"....such hype bullshit.
I sure wish the general public realized what a shill this piece of shit is.
Oh..that's bloody's proof..."oh there's no question..." Great proof bill. What a sack of disgraceful zion fascist smirk.
baby jesus @ 22:
HOORAY BEER!
I know Bush's obsession with Iraq, what is his?
Besides the fact that it is ridiculous to continue put this neo-fascist propagandist on the air, did you notice that Bill The Bloody Chickenhawk Kristol has lost his self-satisfied smirk?
This lying scum looks like he has aged and he can no longer maintain his stepford-wife frozen smile.
I remember Matt Laur and Katie Couric in Qatar, with this crappy show, right before Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL) got started. Instead of being serious journalists, and asking questions about why a war was about to start that had nothing to do with 9/11, they were acting like it was spring break and trying to figure out how Qatar is pronounced. Oh my, my, it was supposed do be such a lovely little war....NOT! Pathetic.
That's marvelous. Someone has to take that phrase and run with it.
Lieberman: Surge Protector. McCain: Surge Protector.
Rendition Mission @ 37:
me likey "surge protector".....dees one is goot
Apparently my previous post about Bill the bloody chickenhawk was not liked. So I will rephrase it. Did you notice that Kristol has lost his self-satisfied smirk? He looks like he has aged. Maybe the weight of his lies and his crimes are affecting him.
On another point, Al Jazeera English reported on the book "Poems from Guantanamo". Here is a report from another site.
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/08...
baby jesus @ 30:
Test what, exactly? Our patience? Our ability to spot a smarmy liar?
BJ @ 5:
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ol mike wanders waay off the subject sometimes. i've wondered if he isn't having some kind of health problem but i seem to be the only one who notices.
at least he is wrong because some of his marbles wandered off but ppl like kristol, kovak and the like--just evil, and wrong.
p.s. did you know that kristol is like 5'4" or something?
i couldn't watch the clip either, i wonder if lauer asked him how he was holding up with all this terrible war stuff going on.
when are one of these assholes like lauer going to ask an asshole like kristol, "when you had the opportunity in the 60's to fight communism in viet nam you chose to run away?"
Didn't know the Today Show went wingnut.
Dirtbags.
mod @ 35:
Rush stole his Viagra.
Is there a more funding request soon or something?
lol.
Put a rifle in Kristol's hands and put him on the front lines in Iraq and you will be able to trace where he ran by the trail of shit he left behind.
Fortunate son, chickenhawk , neocon , Zionist first pussy.
Not only are the bush gang stalling but they will attack Iran just so they can leave that mess for the next admin (most likely dem) just out of spite.
Simply put, this is why Matt will be banished to morning coffee shows his entire career and KO will be appearing on prime time on the major network. Little Matt just can't resist that cute little black cocktail dress Kristol, I mean Coulter wears all the time
Edd @ 47:
You forgot Straussian who thinks the hoi polloi shouldn't get any important information because elitists always know best.
(Speaking of elitists, Bush isn't clearing brush at the ol' ranch anymore? No need to come across as the guy to have a beer with anymore?)
Lauer is a wingnut.
Catie told me Matt wears a thong.......no really.
baby jesus @ 3:
He's probably wherever Carmen Sandiego is. Lauer has been showing his ReThug leanings to the point I watch Good Morning, America instead.
[...] House Bill Kristol on the TODAY Show: Surge on! » This Summary is from an article posted at Crooks and Liars on Friday, August 24, 2007 This [...]
One more time for the folks in the cheap seats:
The Today Show is a blight on news, on intelligence, on taste; everything about this show sucks!
Blech!
Ruthless People @ 46:
:lol:
And I'm sure his fear would be so, ahem, explosive, that one could track that trail from orbit!
Krystol.....eesh, what scary clown.
Who would waste their time watching this kind of daytime crap? They've got a show to fill up every day of the week and they want to attract big sponsors (corporations). It's not about news. They should stick with cooking segments. Matt Lauer has a huge ego; irksomely so. He's no journalist.
Who the Hell would bother watching such Trash
Hey John Warner:
I hate to be the one to tell you but the most cowardly of all neocon chickenhawks is calling you a pussy!
So Pops, do you have the stones to do anything about it or will you continue to allow Kristol to slap you around in public?
Boody Bill should emulate George Costanza and do the opposite of his first instinct.
So far his record regarding Iraq is perfect - he's been wrong about EVERYTHING.
Bonkers @55
"And I’m sure his fear would be so, ahem, explosive, that one could track that trail from orbit!
Krystol…..eesh, what scary clown"
True.
How did you do that emoticon thing?
Ruthless People @ 46:
Reminds me of the scene in Full Metal Jacket. "I'll make you a good deal on a
ARVNChickenhawk rifle. It's never been fired and only dropped once.":lol:
Rendition Mission @ 37:
Petraeus: Surgin' General
NO. NO. NO.
No way I´ll watch this video. The bloke´s face, his unbearable smirk and his voice give me the creeps. This is material for masochists and I´m definitely none.
Progressives have aimed their disdain at outlets like Faux, where we are hopeless in terms of affecting their programming. The emphasis should be on the less right wing nut cases to have any effectiveness. Go after Laurer. He may be more open to recognizing the logic of the liberals.
myiq2xu @ 66:
DING DING DING!!! - Stop calling folks, we have a winner!!!!
Thanks Buddha the QT link doesn't work. I almost watched that shit heel.
Hell, who else would war profiteer GE have on their propaganda network? A progressive anti-war pundit? Shucks.
Surprise, surprise.
Could someone e-mail me when Billy the clown gets something right?
Bill: Ira! Get your ass in here this minute! Didn't I tell you to clean up your room? It looks like a bomb went off in here!
Ira: Because you put twenty holes in the wall when you tossed me around the room and you broke my desk into fifty pieces and tossed and shredded my stuffed animals.
Bill: Are you back talking me? I gave you a direct order you snivelling little twit! Clean up this mess!
Ira: But after the tenth time I hit the wall, daddy, my arm snapped like a twig. Mommy and I just got back from the hospital.
Bill: That's no excuse for not having your goddamned room cleaned up you little bastard!
(Snap! Snap! The other arm and a leg broken.)
Bill: Now get up off the ground and clean up this mess! No excuses you lazy no good little shit!
Billo is the ultimate warmonger. War is fun when you know you're not going to die.
And more Americans die.
Hey! Bill! Americans are dead.
Bill, can you see the wall. A wall next to Vietnam wall.
In DC.
What a cool Neocon legacy.
Dead Heroes.
His Neocon fantasy kills people.
Why does the MSM treat him with respect?
I don't get it. He is wrong yet they treat him with some respect!
WHY?
What a dickless wonder.
Worst President ever. EVER.
Thank God for the internet and C&L.
I'm rambling now...Yet I know that if we keep the pressure on we can make a difference.
Thank you, and don't let the bastards get you down.
JB...USAF(RET)
Mike Mid City @ 73:
As my old friend would say, "file that under 'futile.'"
You know Kristol, that if we just stay long enough to be able to kill all Iraqi's we can immigate Americans there and have an alli in the mid east for sure. Bush can appoint himself Tsar of Iraq before he leaves office as a recess appointment.
If Kristol doesn't consider that Iraqi's lingering Al-Q, insurgents etc will not adjust to a surge he is incredibly undeserving of his stature in the media with republicans.
One adjustment has been to see more spectacularly larger explosive detonations at civilians and "coalition troops", (ha-ha).
Before anything else with Kristol. Is the press so whimpy that it cannot hound Bush Adm people for their officail "what the hell you doing" until they answer? Kristol is not part of the Adm nor has he been elected to any public position. He is not the person the press should go to on this stuff. So were fed Kristols imagination theater that he is a KEY player in the Bush Adm ?
I quit my TIME subscription when Kristol's commentary started to disgrace their pages. TRUTH is that it was kind of a RAG anyway.
It will be just as painless to declare publicly that I will never watch the Today Show again...
well...
maybe if Dave Garroway and THE CHIMP came back.
Did you young'ns know that the TODAY Show used to be co-anchored by a Chimpanzee?
God I hate William Kristol. I really hope that someday he ends up in Abu Ghraib prison experiencing the things he endorses (and then some).
Why the hell is he still being booked on TV? He hasn't been right about anything in at least 6 years!
I understand why he still writes magazine articles, he is the editor, but there should come a time when TV bookers say "Kristol, you're out!"
I think it's fantastic that they keep bringing on these bozos like Kristol & Coulter. The viewers get to see what enormous jack asses these people are, and how they are ALWAYS wrong, and how they don't care at all about it, they just spew the same BS over and over and over. The MSM can't be acused of being liberal if they keep inviting Kristol & Coulter on to their shows, right? They're doing us a favor by having these morons on TV. I say keep it up.
William Kristol's father is noted as being the "father of neo-conservatism", Irving Kristol.
I was impressed with Matt Lauer's well acted part, as he substitutes real contentiousness for loudness, as if loudness itself is an independent act.
Lauer fed Kristol softballs, and Kristol kept hitting them out of the park with
his allegiance to administration talking points.
What is this possible victory going to look like?
Ninety-two percent of Iraqi children are suffering from PTSD. They are dying from starvation, penury, exposure, malignant neglect, accident, suicide, diseases associated with unsanitary conditions, lack of potable water, malnutrition, terrorism, crime, low birth weight, lack of health care and medicines, high infant mortality, orphaned children and collateral death so that there will not be little terrorists waiting to take their elders' places.
Was this war and occupation the only means the U.S. had to bolster the economy, and protect the petro-dollar? Unfortunately, economics professors sell capitalism rather than examine some of the unproven elements, weaknesses, and deceptions to maintain an illusion that is a double-edged sword casting twenty to twenty-five percent into poverty, while increasing the accumulation of capital for the top five-percent at the expense of everyone else, rather than develop less delusional models that more accurately reflect economic behavior.
What I don't understand is why television programs still invite the Bill Kristols of our nation to waste our time spewing their PNAC nonsense, when it is clear that Bill Kristol and his PNACers have been wrong, wrong, wrong. Why give this guy air time?
I heard General Billy Kristol once led a battalion of G.I Joe dolls to victory over an insurgent neighbor's sand castle.
Who better to counsel Our Great Decider in these troubling times?
Why is Kristol even allowed on television? Why is Matt Lauer even treating him as any sort of expert?
What expertise has he ever displayed? Why is he given such a prominent soapbox and such legitimacy, when everything he has advocated has been an abject disaster?
Kristol's thoughts, philosophies and strategies are the material of the radical fringe. His philosophies are hardly a step removed from the lunatic ranting on the corner.
Stop propping up these radical fringe neocons.
Send Kristol over.
The only purpose of the surge is to kick this disaster of a war down the street to the next president's term.
Karl Bauer @ 86:
Malibu Barbie - she led a counter-attack and drove the chickenhawks back to Geekville.
Check out the kind of lies Krystol puts in his rag: "I use the Pacific Northwest, where just 30 percent of the people are religiously affiliated, as a case study. I ask what happens to a culture when it detaches ideas about right and wrong from any grounding in a belief in God. The answer is, you get a place like this where, for example, people can’t explain why murder is wrong. . . . . "
If you want to see what kind of blither they use to get their insane followers to come to your town to outvote your neighborhood, check this article out:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDFkODRkNmYwODE2NTFhZGYzNmRkZWI2NDB...
About a year ago, I decided I was fed up with this kind of thing on the Today Show and vowed not to watch it any more. And I haven't.
They will never have liberals on these networks, because they do not want the truth. That is the reason we need to not give the any ratings by watching them.
We need to allow crooks and liars and all of the other blog sites do that for us and post what these ass holes say for us to slam them with.
We need not to subscribe to any of the national news papers when you can pick them up in restaurants, the bus or anywhere.
We need to starve these bastards to death.
If you want real news and information. GO LEFT .COM is a great source as I check it out everday
Why does anyone listen to this horrible person. Everything he has ever said with that smarmy smile has been proven to be wrong. This is the guy who said it was ridiculous to think that Sunni and Shia could not get along. He has been to so many dog and pony shows in Irag he should get a manure award.
Biggus Diggus @ 20:
Somebody like Colbert should do a sketch with packets of cereal behind them on a bookshelf, have them side on so they look like books... ;) would be a giggle.
Bill Kristol you've been absolutely positively wrong about everything for the past ten years. Not one God damn thing have you got fucking correct.
Zero, nada, zip...
Now you want us to fight through spring in Iraq? At what cost... another 1,500 dead kids?
As I wrote to you in an e-mail to the Standard four year ago calling you an 'asshole' well, YOU'RE STILL AN ASSHOLE!
When Lauer asked for evidence that the surge was working, William the Bloody responded with words that said in effect, because it is.
Lauer didn't challenge this.
When will they have Maddow on. ROTFLMAO. You MUST be kidding. The conservative blogosphere would jam NBC's servers and phone lines with protests about the "librul (sic) media"
Jenny'O @ 42:
I also saw the Graph, and indeed Mike had it wrong. However, he usually is on target; so just forgive him.
He is soooo much better than Chris; I simply cannot watch him any longer.
It was a real treat to watch "Hardball" last week with Barnicle. On Monday, I will be switching the channel; Tweety is past history in my book.
There it was, military families give us Neocons your sons and daughters until Spring.
[...] has been going in Iraq. He starts off the interview with that same, self-satisfied “I know better that everyone else what is good for America” smirk on his face. Remember it, because it doesn’t last long. And though no-one sees [...]
Ferrofluid @ 95:
Whenever you see a TV commercial for lawyers, they alway have legal encyclopedias behind them.
What's funny is such encyclopedias, like American Jurisprudence, are only secondary or tertiary sources, not primary.
krystol(nacht) is still working out his frusterations at being beaten up by a six year old girl
When he was thirty.
Great points, folks!
No. 83, what role does Red Cross play in iraq? What does Maliki has to say about the surrounding destruction?
I agree that Kristol is not an advisor of the president and he has no right to enforce his ideologies to create a war in iraq. Of course, he uses people like Wolfowitz, Leiberman, etc.
Some seem under the impression that a highly paid talking head like ol matt, would actually have his own questions to ask the warhawk, you would forget who pays mattys salary. the msm has been gung ho behind the lies of the war machine and its puppets like kristol, who serves his narrow idiology first and last, only dressing it up as patriotism when he appears in the media, to feed the meek syrupy lies to continue the onslaught he craves in the whole mid-east. this ghoul appears on all the major so called, news shows, those asking the questions are nearly all over paid, thus compromised hacks, covering their ass and those they are told to cover. its been a farce for years and is bad comedy these days, due to the hundreds of thousands of dead civillians in iraq and those of the american military, that these paid ho`s are paid to talk around.
If you want to know the truth from a non-political (not right, not left) perspective, read "Babylon is Falling! Is Falling! by James Arthur. Just out, it describes and offers a solution for ending the likes of Rush, Sean, Michael, Chrissy and Chrystal. It describes the ongoing collapse of our world's socio-economic-governmental-religious systems. Also points out that all of our presidential wannabies are more of the same-o same-o, but Bush is the last president of these United States. He gets to turn out the lights...'cause the party's over. He's going to launch a global nuclear war that just like Iraq, nobody wins.
As usual, the talking head establishment is reticent to come around to "declaring victory" and breinging the troops home.
Conservatives always succeed in framing and defining the war debates. Kristol and his cohorts don't want to be saddled with a defeat, so they're quite willing to advocate a surge until the 2009 inauguration.
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