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From Media Matters:

On his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh claimed that Democrats "want to get us out of Iraq, but they can't wait to get us into Darfur." He continued: "There are two reasons. What color is the skin of the people in Darfur? It's black. And who do the Democrats really need to keep voting for them? If they lose a significant percentage of this voting bloc, they're in trouble." A caller responded, "The black population," to which Limbaugh said, "Right."

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rush has been, is and always will be a racist.
he's just one more of the worse kind of human on the planet.

I can only handle listening to the guy for 5 minutes.
Three Hours a day? SHEESH! forget about it!

> I can only handle listening to the guy for 5 minutes.
Three Hours a day? SHEESH! forget about it!

I tortured myself and listened to him for 3 hours a day for a week, as a personal research project awhile back. And I found enough evidence on the lying-type propaganda artist for a lifetime.

http://www.thesequencers.us/whatsametau/samples/clsdmnd.wav

Is that blowhard still on the air? Proof positive that a good percentage of the country, the ones who eat that stuff up, are unscrupulous.

Can't we just go ahead and skip the next year or so? The Republicans' stupidity always grows exponentially greater around election time, and I just don't think I can take it again this election season. All of a sudden I'm going to have to again get used to the mindless debates that come from all over the inane world of Republican bloviaters and I just don't have the patience for it in a race that so obviously is going to the Democrats. Can't we just go ahead and have the primaries now and call the Democrat the overall winner?

I think if I see another wind-surfing or wolf pack commercial, I'm going to puke.

If I understand the logic here, African-American voters are going to either abandon ship and vote for the Republican party en masse or they're going to stay home on election day. And all because the Democrats won't lead the way towards starting another massive war - this time against Sudan?

If Limbaugh truly believes this shit, he's really fucking stupid and should just stick to writing more cute little racist jingles.

Another right wing stupidity and ignorance from Rush Limpballs. He still scared of Obama.

By that logic, isn't Rush saying that the terrorists want the Republicans to win?

Everyone should read the following article about how Iraq whistle blowers are being fired, threatened and imprisoned. The concept of freedom, and a "government for the people" that established the United States as a leader among countries, is no more. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20430153/

And just imagine the distancing from these comments the Republicans running for President will be doing. But ironically they'll be rather glad to get the votes of those that listen to Limbaugh and even think like him. Yes, those listeners pretty much are all, ok, they are all, Republican voters. Yes all true. I don't really think many Democrats are going to listen to this walking gasbag.

[Oh jake, vince, vance, vunce. I'm tired of your potty-mouthed posts. Say hello to our spam filter from now on-Sitemonitor]

Actually, the most glaring, easily-avoidable stupidity to come from Rush dealt with Sherrod Brown, and it's the example to throw at Rush when he pontificates about politics and politicians at the national level

Enjoy

democrats don't need darfur to get the black vote. they just need to not have racist idiots like rush limbaugh to not represent them.

Do you see how all these repug talking dickheads try to keep things so simple for their followers? They are all a bunch of simpletons. There is not one leader among any of them. I bet we could start a rumor, saying up is down and they would believe it.

funny how they are experts at attacking your strength and making it sound like a bad thing. stopping the genocide in darfur is a good thing it's not even close to the same situation as iraq who's people never asked for our help. we need to go to darfur for peace keeping not war mongering.

Perhaps it's time to ask his sponsors if they...... Second thought, forget about those rather sad has-been comedians like Rush, Bill'o and the Blonde. They are what they are.... racists, liars ...but their time is over. Certainly boycott their present sponsors, and let their sponsors know that you are doing it, but it's over for them. Just look at their rating numbers compared to Maher, Stewart, Colbert and Olbermann. The times, they are a changin.

Rush "Take that bone out of your nose and call me back" Limbaugh ? Of course he's a racist.
Most of his asshole listeners have some excuse for every racist thing he says...you know ... "you're taking him out of context" etc.
But they all secretly hail his bigotry.

Do you think that bin Laden knew that this is what our culture would come to when he planned 9/11? If he wanted us to attack Iraq, wouldn't our political system destoying everything we hold dear, you might even say right, be poetic justice, in his eyes?

Rush responds to his critics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiOo7S0DvM8

LOL, h/t americablog

Satan Himself @ 19:

Rush responds to his critics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiOo7S0DvM8

LOL, h/t americablog

Yeah, thats one of my favorites.

Rush considers his Vi*agra laden trips to the Dominican Republic to take advantage of poor sex workers part of his minority outreach.

The Republican Party has gotten an alley-oop from Reperv Bob Allen who offers hummers to black men out of fear.

Jaysus, what a pack of racist sociopaths.

-GSD

Limbaloney is a walking mass of character flaws. It says something awful about a country that would allow this cretin to be elevated to a place of influence within our media.

He doesn't recognize his own faults, of course. He has been so busy assigning blame for everything on "libruls" that he probably feels he is above reproach. In truth, he is beneath contempt.

Oxycontin Limpballs = totally bigoted jackass

Wow. The right can claim they're no worse than the rest of us, then.

Scum.

Oxycontin Limpballs = totally bigoted jackass

LOL!

hes a racist, yes. but if he actually believes this, then he is a moron too.

i heard this live, and my first thought was....the man is back on the oxy

racist is one thing (and the man is a racist) but this comment was just over the top stupid....so he had to be high

in about a month, he should be losing his hearing again

Limbaugh is just wall-to-wall stupid. He's no threat to anyone, except himself.

Limbaugh saying something stupid is not news.

Limbaugh actually saying something inteligent - now, that's rare enough to be news.

White Limbaugh (parody of White Rabbit by Jefferson Airplane) - Stan and the Sequencers

One meal, makes him larger
And one meal, makes him fall
And the ones that, Mama feeds him
Doesn’t constipate him, at all
Go ask Limbaugh, when he’s ten feet tall

And if he’s out, chasing Liberals
And he thinks we’re, going to fall
He’ll crush us, and he’ll snort us
As he’s taking, a call
Call Limbaugh, and he will fall

Whine man on the chess board
Get up and tell you where to go
And he’s just had, a narcotic
And his IQ appears small
Go ask Limbaugh, I think he’ll know
About logic, and proportion
He abuses them on his show
‘Cause the white Rush is talking backwards
And the reds and yellows he’s shooting
Remember, what de “Continhead” ™ said
“I’m braindead
I’m braindead
I’m braindead”

what a douche bag...

Call it "disgust fatigue" but there is little that Mr. Limbaugh could say at this point that would surprise me. He doesn't mind being called a racist because he takes that accusation to be proof that he is challenging the lib-rul "politically correct" orthodoxy. What does bother him, and his legions of mouthbreathing listeners, is when he is proven to be wrong. And this is just one of the hundreds, or thousands, of instances where he is wrong. Oh, and he is a racist as well, of that there is no doubt, no matter how many of his best friends are black.

Will a boycott of his sponsors make a difference? I don't know because I suspect that most of his advertisers are selling crap that I don't purchase anyway. So what is to be done?

The thing that I dread is when we finally have our Radio Rwanda moment, when he whips his dittoheads into a lather and they go out and commit acts of violence. That is what I believe to be the real threat.

LIMBAUGH: Right. So you go into Darfur and you go into South Africa, you get rid of the white government there. You put sanctions on them. You stand behind Nelson Mandela -- who was bankrolled by communists for a time, had the support of certain communist leaders. You go to Ethiopia. You do the same thing.

Riiiight...Backin' Mandela had absolutely nothin' to do with the injustices carried out against the majority of South Africans. Guess the ANC was supposed to wait until Stupor Mundi ascended to his imperial throne and decreed Democracy fer all.

Ya just can't make this shit up fast enough. Yer certain what Limbaugh(or BillO, or Hannity, or Coulter, etc., etc.) is gonna say next, but he always goes just a bit further...

So, by his comment, Rush is basically confirming what we already know: Republicans don't care about black voters, because they don't care about black people.

[Deleted. Flamebait-Sitemonitor]

"...MSNBC - the mecca of the left."

lol. Shows how much you actually know about 'The Left.' Good christ. What a moron's thought.

Of course Limbaugh, a hard core Republican, would think that saving lives is a political move.

baby jesus doesn't see what is so addictive about Vicodin?

baby jesus could take one everyday no problem

limpdick is still talking out of his fat, pale, saggy ass. His logic is only second to the repug party.

Here is what happens after Six Years of promoting fear as a means to keep an entire nation under control because of their misguided beliefs.

Two people who sprinkled flour in a parking lot to mark a trail for their offbeat running club inadvertently caused a bioterrorism scare and now face a felony charge.

The sprinkled powder forced hundreds to evacuate an IKEA furniture store Thursday.

Devil's Advocate: I didn't say he hated them, just that he didn't care about them. For example, if they were in dire straits, he'd probably be telling them to get a job, because he only wants to be around black people who aren't poor to prove some imaginary point about effort which has no basis in reality.

Anyway, 1.14 million Iraqis are displaced.

Rush is a Nazi

Tequila @ 35:

So, by his comment, Rush is basically confirming what we already know: Republicans don't care about black voters, because they don't care about black people.

The leaders of Detroit have been Democrat and have proclaimed sympathy for blacks for 40 years. And it is still terrible mess (for blacks).

So where exactly was Rush wrong? The fact that the Dems want the US in Darfur, Sudan - or the fact that if the Dems actually do lose the black vote, they lose period. (?).

And is the color of people in Darfur not black?

What's scary to me is that Linbaugh is so popular, I am shocked that I live in a country where this could happen. I agree with what Robert Vega said in post #10. What kind of future do we have to look forward to?

RTLM:

The leaders of Detroit have been Democrat and have proclaimed sympathy for
blacks for 40 years. And it is still terrible mess (for blacks).

Yeah, but Republiscum policies have been running the place in the ground for the last 20 years. Anyway, you had six years, and Detroit looks like paradise compared to what you did to New Orleans.

So where exactly was Rush wrong? The fact that the Dems want the US in Darfur, Sudan - or the fact that if the Dems actually do lose the black vote, they lose period. (?).

I'm guessing the part where he considers it a political ploy. It seems that stopping genocide is political when it's not coming from an ex-dictator we supported, but whom we stopped liking, because he invaded an oil-rich country which happened to be a trading partner.

Dems do take blacks for granted. They use blacks as voting leverage in every urban population center.
Over an over I hear Dems advocating the black cause. Sharing fury over the state of their affairs Establishing themselves as the "community leaders". But where ever this occurs, ironically there is no sum gain in the black economic condition.

Hmmmm...

The Dems need a dependent class in order to justify their existence.

Motto: Keep them down, transfer blame, remain in power.

Without the Dems to come to your rescue - what good are they?

Devil's Advocate @ 36:

Tequila @ 35:

So, by his comment, Rush is basically confirming what we already know: Republicans don't care about black voters, because they don't care about black people.

Right, so Rush Hates Mr. Snerdly, who has sat next to Rush for decades and has been with him for years. Also, don't forget Walter E. Williams (World renowned economist who filled in for him on Friday, and has done so for years). And, Rush clearly hates his black audience, more numerous than MSNBC - the mecca of the left.

And if you continue pulling stuff out of your arse you may need a colostomy bag soon... Yeah, all them Black people who listen to Rush Limbaug... So Mr. Limbaugh employs two self hating house negros, so what?

It is like saying that the Southern Plantation owners were not racist because they tolerated some of the help inside the house, or that the nazis loved Jews because they employed Kapos in the concentration camps.

BTW. Mr. "snerdly" is a made up nickname by Rush Limbaugh... I am sure you are one of those marroons who still think Alan Smithee is the world's most prolific film director.

In any case, the big mistake is thinking in racial lines. Republicans are not racis, they are clasist. It looks like they don't give a shit about black people because in reality they don't give a shit about poor people. In reality they are OK with black people as long as a) they have money and b) shut up and act nice, the problem is that is a minuscule minority of the black population... and thus the racist overtones of Republican policies... and I just love when right wing knuckle draggers get caught redhanded knee deep on their own shit and try to act all righteous. Republicans are a funny bunch, they think that they cann convince that if a bird looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, mates with other ducks, gives birth to duck eggs, and makes a mean duck stew when cooked, is not really a duck just because they did not call it a duck.

Dumbasses...

Zenrage @ 29:

Limbaugh is just wall-to-wall stupid. He's no threat to anyone, except himself.

Right, let's ignore him so he can spew more shit... I mean is not like they have managed to win the white house *twice*, dominate the senate and congress for basically a decade, stuffed the supreme court with the most reactionary bench in decades. Yeah, lets ignore him... and they may go away. Sure, that's the ticket... let's all be good liberals and sit down and sing Kumba Yah.

This is the same as living in a room with a monkey and thinking that his fecal swinging is "oh so cute, look at the monkey swinging his shit around, is not harmful to anyone!" So you ignore the monkey, until one day you realize that you are in a room chest deep in monkey shit.

I am fucking tired of the polite ineffectual bunch of pansies that passes for "liberal" nowadays in this country. Kind of miss my days in Europe with a left not afraid of showing their teeth. Because, frankly that is the only way of keep in check these reactionary bastards.

Tequila @ 46:

RTLM:

The leaders of Detroit have been Democrat and have proclaimed sympathy for
blacks for 40 years. And it is still terrible mess (for blacks).

Yeah, but Republiscum policies have been running the place in the ground for the last 20 years. Anyway, you had six years, and Detroit looks like paradise compared to what you did to New Orleans.

So where exactly was Rush wrong? The fact that the Dems want the US in Darfur, Sudan - or the fact that if the Dems actually do lose the black vote, they lose period. (?).

I'm guessing the part where he considers it a political ploy. It seems that stopping genocide is political when it's not coming from an ex-dictator we supported, but whom we stopped liking, because he invaded an oil-rich country which happened to be a trading partner.

Let's start with New Orleans. What did Republican's do to N.O.? You Dems had a Dem Gov., Dem Sen. and a Dem Mayor. You also had a long conditioned welfare state that expected competent local government decision making in the 4-day wake of a Catagory 5 hurricane.

The local government failed. A pack of fools run the city of New Orleans. Typical dependent class liberals.
(see 1000 plus school buses - swamped and idle)

Call it a failure of basic citizenship while you shriek "Hurricane Bush".

As for ejecting the Saddam Regime from Kuwait - I'll assume you're older than 21.

There's always that assumption that all black Americans feel some inexplicable connection to African people that non-black people could never understand. By the same logic, all white Americans should be on the edge of their seats, dying to hear the latest news about the clashes of ethnic groups in eastern Europe.

I live in a neighborhood with the largest Somalian and Ethiopian refugee population in the United States, and I know there's a lot of tension between them and the black American population. Once and a while you'll here some simplistic, racist idiotic mouth off about how he thinks it's strange that all these groups don't just take to each other naturally--I mean, they're all BLACK for goodness sakes! Don't they all feel a strong bond to each other dating back to some time that all their ancestors were beating drums together?

If Rush took a look at the absolute nightmare people in Sudan are facing, and then thought about what Iraq was like BEFORE Bush & Co. decided to mess it up, he would see how much more urgent the situation in Darfur is compared to what Iraq was. Then again, Rush doesn't employ logic or compassion. I guess he just sees a bunch of non-white people killing and raping each other--naturally, something that only non-white people would care about.

RTLM @ 47:

Dems do take blacks for granted.

Dems do take blacks for granted only because we know that most blacks know better than voting against their own interest. You on the other hand probably make less than $200,000.00 a year so to vote repig you are voting against you own interest! Moron!

Mike S @ 45:

What's scary to me is that Linbaugh is so popular, I am shocked that I live in a country where this could happen. I agree with what Robert Vega said in post #10. What kind of future do we have to look forward to?

That is because people here decided to be passive, you need to counteract threats be it external or internal. These people want to proactively turn this country into a theocratic plutocracy. Thus destroying the democratic republic that we live in. People did not take the internal threat seriously, it is easier to think of the "scawy foweignews who want to huwt us" than trying to deal with the enemies within, because they look like us, talk like us, and may be even related to us.

I am afraid it may be too late... they are brainwashing our kids, taking over every branch of the government, and destroying what this country once stood for. Either we take the threat seriously, and to do so there needs to be a strong pro labour center and leftist movements in place in order to counterbalance the radicalization to the right of the political discourse over the past 3 decades, period. No pussy footing around or trying to be nice and polite.

These are the people who are literally trying to eliminate us, and some idiots are still afraid of being considered "threatening or impolite" by these bastards. Fuck em...

So fuck Rush Limbaugh. He couldn't even hack it in a fourth tier college for more than a couple of months. People just need to go in public and tell him to shut the fuck up. People who commit adultery and have like 3 wives don't have jack shit to say about morality or virtues. People who are addicted to drugs and whose only talent is to talk to a microphone spewing ignorant shit for a workday of 3 hours (a 15hr workweek folks) should not tell those less fortunate that they are lazy and they deserve all the shit it comes their way. And most importantly, a fat fuck who escaped military service because he claimed to have an anal cyst should for the most part shut the fuck up about what valor is, or how and what this country needs to do to defend itself and much less even dare smear any political adversary who has served this country.

These assholes never put out when it was their time to do so, it is now our time to tell them to shut the fuck up.

lafin gas @ 52:

RTLM @ 47:

Dems do take blacks for granted.

Dems do take blacks for granted only because we know that most blacks know better than voting against their own interest. You on the other hand probably make less than $200,000.00 a year so to vote repig you are voting against you own interest! Moron!

You claim to know what is in the best interest of blacks? And that blacks "know better" than to vote anti-Dem?

I'd say you've got yourself a severe case of petty hubris.

Nice try.

RTLM @ 54:

lafin gas @ 52:

RTLM @ 47:

Dems do take blacks for granted.

Dems do take blacks for granted only because we know that most blacks know better than voting against their own interest. You on the other hand probably make less than $200,000.00 a year so to vote repig you are voting against you own interest! Moron!

You claim to know what is in the best interest of blacks? And that blacks "know better" than to vote anti-Dem?

I'd say you've got yourself a severe case of petty hubris.

Nice try.

And now you are saying blacks don’t know what’s good for them? You just showed your true color, bigot!

RTLM @ 47:

Dems do take blacks for granted. They use blacks as voting leverage in every urban population center.
Over an over I hear Dems advocating the black cause. Sharing fury over the state of their affairs Establishing themselves as the "community leaders". But where ever this occurs, ironically there is no sum gain in the black economic condition.

Hmmmm...

The Dems need a dependent class in order to justify their existence.

Motto: Keep them down, transfer blame, remain in power.

Without the Dems to come to your rescue - what good are they?

So basically what you are saying is that Republicans want to eliminate, or exterminate if you will, a class of people so that democrats can not "use them as leverage."

It could not be that the Democrats have plenty of black member politicians, who happen to represent the interest of the black population at large (not all of them, but a big chunk due to the socio-economic distribution of the black population), and thus that may be the reason why blacks vote dems.

You had to project your republican line of thought, you are the guys who use people. Your people are the ones who keep on bringing lame canard wedge issues such as gay rights or abortion to use the fundie vote...

lafin gas @ 55:

RTLM @ 54:

lafin gas @ 52:

RTLM @ 47:
Dems do take blacks for granted only because we know that most blacks know better than voting against their own interest. You on the other hand probably make less than $200,000.00 a year so to vote repig you are voting against you own interest! Moron!

You claim to know what is in the best interest of blacks? And that blacks "know better" than to vote anti-Dem?

I'd say you've got yourself a severe case of petty hubris.

Nice try.

And now you are saying blacks don’t know what’s good for them? You just showed your true color, bigot!

Good obfuscation try there. It was actually you, friend, who said you know that blacks know better than to vote against their best interest.

Please explain for all of us: What is in the black self-interest. (by lafin gas)

You had you two answers, that's all I give idiots!

RTLM @ 50:

Tequila @ 46:

RTLM:

The leaders of Detroit have been Democrat and have proclaimed sympathy for
blacks for 40 years. And it is still terrible mess (for blacks).

Yeah, but Republiscum policies have been running the place in the ground for the last 20 years. Anyway, you had six years, and Detroit looks like paradise compared to what you did to New Orleans.

So where exactly was Rush wrong? The fact that the Dems want the US in Darfur, Sudan - or the fact that if the Dems actually do lose the black vote, they lose period. (?).

I'm guessing the part where he considers it a political ploy. It seems that stopping genocide is political when it's not coming from an ex-dictator we supported, but whom we stopped liking, because he invaded an oil-rich country which happened to be a trading partner.

Let's start with New Orleans. What did Republican's do to N.O.? You Dems had a Dem Gov., Dem Sen. and a Dem Mayor. You also had a long conditioned welfare state that expected competent local government decision making in the 4-day wake of a Catagory 5 hurricane.

The local government failed. A pack of fools run the city of New Orleans. Typical dependent class liberals.
(see 1000 plus school buses - swamped and idle)

Call it a failure of basic citizenship while you shriek "Hurricane Bush".

As for ejecting the Saddam Regime from Kuwait - I'll assume you're older than 21.

Yes, because every city in this country should be able to deal by itself with a cat 5 hurricane.

So basically what you are trying to say is that if you house catches flames, you should be able to put them out on your own with some dinky ass fire stinguisher. Why should the city provide a fire department, right? And if the fire department does show like 3 days too late, and thus your house is burned to the ground, then it is your damned fault because a) you should not have let the fire happen, or b) you should have been able to put the fire out yourself, and c) why should you pay your city taxes and expect an "efficient" response from an agency (the fire department) designed to help you deal with crisis like a house fire which are normally too dangerous and large to be tackled by a family alone.

I guess you are what happens when you cross a GOPer with a libertarian: a fucking selfish ignorant asshole.

MeMyselfAndI @ 56:

RTLM @ 47:

Dems do take blacks for granted. They use blacks as voting leverage in every urban population center.
Over an over I hear Dems advocating the black cause. Sharing fury over the state of their affairs Establishing themselves as the "community leaders". But where ever this occurs, ironically there is no sum gain in the black economic condition.

Hmmmm...

The Dems need a dependent class in order to justify their existence.

Motto: Keep them down, transfer blame, remain in power.

Without the Dems to come to your rescue - what good are they?

So basically what you are saying is that Republicans want to eliminate, or exterminate if you will, a class of people so that democrats can not "use them as leverage."

It could not be that the Democrats have plenty of black member politicians, who happen to represent the interest of the black population at large (not all of them, but a big chunk due to the socio-economic distribution of the black population), and thus that may be the reason why blacks vote dems.

You had to project your republican line of thought, you are the guys who use people. Your people are the ones who keep on bringing lame canard wedge issues such as gay rights or abortion to use the fundie vote...

HAHAHAHA!! Whatever, my self-loathing friend.

Are there any black people here?

Nite lafin gas

Yes,and I'm not talkin to you anymore!

lafin gas @ 63:

Yes,and I'm not talkin to you anymore!

I don't blame you.

MeMyselfAndI @ 59:

RTLM @ 50:

Tequila @ 46:

RTLM:

Yeah, but Republiscum policies have been running the place in the ground for the last 20 years. Anyway, you had six years, and Detroit looks like paradise compared to what you did to New Orleans.

I'm guessing the part where he considers it a political ploy. It seems that stopping genocide is political when it's not coming from an ex-dictator we supported, but whom we stopped liking, because he invaded an oil-rich country which happened to be a trading partner.

Let's start with New Orleans. What did Republican's do to N.O.? You Dems had a Dem Gov., Dem Sen. and a Dem Mayor. You also had a long conditioned welfare state that expected competent local government decision making in the 4-day wake of a Catagory 5 hurricane.

The local government failed. A pack of fools run the city of New Orleans. Typical dependent class liberals.
(see 1000 plus school buses - swamped and idle)

Call it a failure of basic citizenship while you shriek "Hurricane Bush".

As for ejecting the Saddam Regime from Kuwait - I'll assume you're older than 21.

Yes, because every city in this country should be able to deal by itself with a cat 5 hurricane.

So basically what you are trying to say is that if you house catches flames, you should be able to put them out on your own with some dinky ass fire stinguisher. Why should the city provide a fire department, right? And if the fire department does show like 3 days too late, and thus your house is burned to the ground, then it is your damned fault because a) you should not have let the fire happen, or b) you should have been able to put the fire out yourself, and c) why should you pay your city taxes and expect an "efficient" response from an agency (the fire department) designed to help you deal with crisis like a house fire which are normally too dangerous and large to be tackled by a family alone.

I guess you are what happens when you cross a GOPer with a libertarian: a fucking selfish ignorant asshole.

I personally would exit said burning structure with a highly motivated escape behavior way before waiting for a fireman to carry me out.

That's just me though.

Thanks for the mention, bluegal. Here's another Dimbulb quote, also from Media Matters:

Rush Limbaugh played audio clips from Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's (D-NY) August 20 speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) and labeled her position on Iraq "the 'no onions' strategy from the woman with the testicle lockbox."

He's an equal opportunity hater, is our Rush.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com

Night all

RTLM @ 60:

HAHAHAHA!! Whatever, my self-loathing friend.

Self-loathing? Au contrarie, all my hate is directed towards your ignorant arse you fucking twit. Self is a reflexive object, where as my hate just knows direct objects... in this case you.

You and Rush Limbaugh are two fucking racist and classist pigs, both of you equally pathetic because neither of you are even man enough to say it out loud. Tap dance your way around it all you want... Your ilk are lower than scum. You know damn well what your ilk stands for is fucking evil, you are a bunch of cowards who will not stand and say out loud what your political MO is: fuck the poor, fuck minorities, I got mine fuck the rest. Because you know damn well that it is evil and wrong... the funny thing is that by not owning to your actions that somehow allows you to sleep well at night. The sad thing is that somehow you think you are fooling anybody. You are a salesman of shit who thinks that by calling your feces after gemstones that some poor sucker may think he is dealing with a jeweler.

Now if the moderators for this blog would kindly open a can of troll-b-gone and send your miserable arse back to whichever rock you crawled out of, it would be greatly appreciated.

RTLM @ 64:

lafin gas @ 63:

Yes,and I'm not talkin to you anymore!

I don't blame you.

Wait, let me see if I've got this - your argument is that the disaster in New Orleans happened, not because the national guard were dragged off to protect the president's manhood, by dying in Iraq, or even because the man in charge of the nation's disaster planning was hired for his ability to kiss the right backsides, as opposed to any actual knowledge of the job at hand.

No, according to you it happened because the people of New Orleans were poor, black and stupid enough to vote for a Democrat.

And you also think you're not a racist.

And after all that, I have no trouble understanding why lafin gas decided not to bother with you anymore. It's because rationalizing your argument really does require the sort of brain damage usually inflicted by overuse of pharmeceuticals.

I'm sure Rush Limbaugh would be proud of you, and yes - that's an insult.

They use race to get elected. It has worked since Reagan and will continue to work because America, especially southern America is extremely racist. Little code phrases and speeches at Bob Jones University send the message to white middle class closet racists. Who you gonna vote for? A guy who sends you the "message" or a democrat who tells you straight out what he will do?

God Help Us.

Well I guess to extend that logic to it's fullest we can see how the all important Balkan Immigrant vote did for the Democrats after intervening in Serbia. And of course all the taxicab drivers in NYC will be voting Republican thanks to them bringing democracy et al. to the Middle East no doubt.

StirFry @ 18:

Rush "Take that bone out of your nose and call me back" Limbaugh ? Of course he's a racist.
Most of his asshole listeners have some excuse for every racist thing he says...you know ... "you're taking him out of context" etc.
But they all secretly hail his bigotry.

They do not secretly hail his bigotry, they openly hail it.

Aren't Black people citizens of this country as well as White, Spanish, Asian and all other races? This is what the hell is wrong with republicans. They all think they..the rich white men (forget their women) are the only citizens of this country and deserve it all. Bunch of nuts is what they are, and they are the ones undeserving to be Americans.

I can't wait for Howard Kurtz to roast Rush for this statement in his MediaMatters column/blog on the Washington Post website. Oh, wait, I forgot. For Howard, the only media that he can bitch about for being biased are leftwing bloggers and mainstream reporters who dare take a side in the political debate.

Seriously, after the Oxycontin and Viagra fiascoes, how is it that Rush has even a thread of credibility in which to wrap his fat carcass?

Limbaugh is simply pointing out the neocon concept of military use. It is meant only for conquest instead of actually helping a population. He would change his tune if he found out Darfur had any significant amount of oil reserves.

I should also point out that his suggestion is flawed. He is implying that democratic decisions would be based only on pandering to a voting constituency. If he believes his own fairy tales he is feeding to the gullible among us, in particular, the goofiness that muslims are going to come here and atttempt to put "In Moooooohamed We Trust" on our dollar, wouldn't Arabic or Persian Muslims also be a minority as well? Granted this is assuming our presence in Iraq is actually helping them in some twisted way.

Rush Limbaugh, just like Bush, is an addict. Bush substituted religion for his alcohol addiction, and fat slob Limbaugh turned into a food addict. Why people listen to the obnoxious racist liar is beyond me.

EinGrundZurPanik @ 51:

There's always that assumption that all black Americans feel some inexplicable connection to African people that non-black people could never understand. By the same logic, all white Americans should be on the edge of their seats, dying to hear the latest news about the clashes of ethnic groups in eastern Europe.

I live in a neighborhood with the largest Somalian and Ethiopian refugee population in the United States, and I know there's a lot of tension between them and the black American population. Once and a while you'll here some simplistic, racist idiotic mouth off about how he thinks it's strange that all these groups don't just take to each other naturally--I mean, they're all BLACK for goodness sakes! Don't they all feel a strong bond to each other dating back to some time that all their ancestors were beating drums together?

If Rush took a look at the absolute nightmare people in Sudan are facing, and then thought about what Iraq was like BEFORE Bush & Co. decided to mess it up, he would see how much more urgent the situation in Darfur is compared to what Iraq was. Then again, Rush doesn't employ logic or compassion. I guess he just sees a bunch of non-white people killing and raping each other--naturally, something that only non-white people would care about.

Thank you so much for posting this comment. Really, thank you. I have tried to explain to people why myself and other black people really don't have a connection to Africa, mainly because we were not born there. Also, Africa is a continent, not a country. There are 58 countries in Africa I think, and thousands of ethnic groups within those countries. People that live next to each other may not even speak the same language or cultural traditions-- I am supposed to share a bond with them?

I care about Darfur because I hate to see people suffering. Likewise, I cared about Bosnia and I care about Iraq. Black people are not some homogenous group, but I don't need to tell you all that. :) By the way, I am black American, not African-American. I am from Chicago, not Africa.

If you are shocked when Rush makes stupid comments, you have not been paying attention. He has been running his mouth for 20 years.

Rush, or anyone else, does not speak for all republicans, nor does anyone speak for all democrats. And no one has been appointed to speak for all Black, White, or any other groups.

Think for yourself, and if you don't like the nonsense the man spews, change the channel, I do. It's still a free country for anyone to get in front of a microphone and make a complete fool of himself, if he wishes.

We can always count on Rush for his bigoted and racist opinions.

Breaking News: Rush Limbaugh is a bigot. Oooooo... I guess we already knew that.

He is really pandering to the virulent haters now, isn't he?

This is the kind of stuff that got Dom Imus fired. As it should have.

Oh, wait... uh...

... nevermind.

testing

QuakerDave @ 81:

This is the kind of stuff that got Dom Imus fired. As it should have.

Oh, wait... uh...

... nevermind.

Exactly. It was brought up several times when Imus was fired that how come Rush and Coulter never got fired for their hate speech?

His back must be sore from carrying water again

If my post(s) do show up, I meant to add that this info was news to me. Did anyone else know this at the time she said it?

If my posts don't show up... nevermind ;)

Sorry if I'm being a pain here--- did anyone see a post I made between #s 82 and 85 that contained a link? I posted it twice (once embedded) but neither showed up.

KansasCityFaGt @ 7:

If I understand the logic here, African-American voters are going to either abandon ship and vote for the Republican party en masse or they're going to stay home on election day. And all because the Democrats won't lead the way towards starting another massive war - this time against Sudan?

If Limbaugh truly believes this shit, he's really fucking stupid and should just stick to writing more cute little racist jingles.

the truth never mattered to rusty limpballs. only the racism and subsequent attention, which he will then use as justification. He must be right if people are upset about what he says. He racebaits as often as possible. This is just one of his more blatant turds.

Marge @ 73:

Aren't Black people citizens of this country as well as White, Spanish, Asian and all other races? This is what the hell is wrong with republicans. They all think they..the rich white men (forget their women) are the only citizens of this country and deserve it all. Bunch of nuts is what they are, and they are the ones undeserving to be Americans.

conversely, hate speech generally has the purpose of creating, promoting and maintaining schisms among groups of people. Today it's blacks, tomorrow it's immigrants, Tuesday it's terrrrists, thursday it's Democrats...... so limpy is just doing his job as a post-reconstructionist bigotry generator.

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Thats ok. The Republicans have lost a significant portion of a very important voting block.

Everybody

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Devil's Advocate @ 90:

Spicegal @ 76:
If you want to find out about someone, you're not supporting him by listening to him once to twice to find out what he's about, you're educating yourself to make your own judgment.

I have listened to enough Beck, Limbaugh, Coulter, Malkin, and O'Reilly to realize that not a one of them do the slightest good with their rhetoric and outright lies. The lot of them are the right wing Republican propaganda department and quite frankly they don't deserve a single red cent of advert money from my watching them. Nor should the networks that give these people a forum.

Part of the 1st Amendment is not only the freedom to speak, but it is the freedom to hear opinions of which you adamantly disagree so that you can confirm your own opinions and viewpoints

You're forgetting the freedom to NOT listen to them. The First Amendment rights of every American end at the doorstep of the people who don't want to hear them. Blow off the guy on the corner with the megaphone, yelling "The End is Near, Repent" because you think he's a crack pot and a kook. OReilly and co are just the modern equivalent of that guy. But instead of working for whatever delusions he has about the end of the world - he's sold himself to a political ideology. and the propaganda they want him to spew. It doesn't matter whether or not it would be right or left. The result is the same. Every time these guys go on the air and start evangelizing for the Republicans another little piece of decent rational and factual discourse in this country dies. But I'm supposed to force myself to listen to OReilly while he is bullying, badgering and cutting off the mics of people he doesn't agree with? That's nonsense and the first time Keith Olbermann tells someone to 'Shut up' or cuts someone's mic I'll stop watching him too.

I feel too many people on the left shut off listening to the other side because University Professors tell them that it is all "hate speech." That is nonsense.

Well you got me there. I never make any decision without first consulting the ACLU and my local university professors.

but I feel I enjoy the freedom to listening to what others may call "UnAmerican" on the Right.

More power to ya. But that doesn't mean that the rest of us have to.

Overall, I just cannot understand the logic of not listening to someone, but using an interested intermediary to find out what someone is all about.

Well for starters, there are only so many hours in the day and only so many days in a life. They are not entertaining, they spend every broadcast badmouthing people just like me and telling me I'm a traitor for not supporting a President and a War I find unconscionable. All they do is make me angry and there's only so much anger a person can take. So why the hell would I waste precious minutes listening to (and putting money in the pockets of ) hypocritical bullies like OReilly, shrieking harpies like Malkin? I've got better things to do with my time and energy.

More "truth" from El Rushbo, who claims a 98.7% accuracy rate with his opinions and predictions:

"Now that the elections in Iraq have been successfully completed, the thirst for democracy will be spreading like wildfire throughout the Middle East. This is going to drive the Democrats to their own self-destruction because the Bush Doctrine is destined to be the blueprint for establishing democracy throughout the world. Mark my words, folks, at the end of the day, George W. Bush will be hailed as the father of democracy in the 21st century."

Mega dittos, Rush!

dadams @ 1:

rush has been, is and always will be a racist.
he's just one more of the worse kind of human on the planet.

Along with bush, chainy, etc.

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what a phony. Didn't laimbrain say that it didn't matter if blacks voted republikk because they were only 13% of the population?

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I didn't see anything racist in his statement. He just extrapolated that he believes the Democratic party is driven by racist elements. Uh, isn't that what someone who stands behind a party with a loud speaker does, speculate the evils that the "other" party is/may do?

Reading the transcript, it seems to me that the caller might be a plant. Would somebody really waste their time seeking an answer to this "question?"

Devil's Advocate @ 92:

E in Md @ 91:

Thats ok. The Republicans have lost a significant portion of a very important voting block.

Everybody

Statements like these are why liberals say elections are stolen from them.

Um, no..."liberals" say elections are stolen because an extraordinary number of black people were turned away at the polls, were told they'd be arrested if they voted in Florida, were given fewer voting machines in their districts in Ohio...

Don't tell us what we think, troll.

I love the look on neocons faces when I tell them I think RL is a communist.......super funny....I really enjoy seeing the looks on their face.

Devil's Advocate @ 90:

Spicegal @ 76:

Rush Limbaugh, just like Bush, is an addict. Bush substituted religion for his alcohol addiction, and fat slob Limbaugh turned into a food addict. Why people listen to the obnoxious racist liar is beyond me.

Because he's not racist and he's not a liar. My biggest problem with people who use Media Matters as their source for listening to Rush is that MMFA is not a disinterested party. It would be like quoting the Media Research Center (The Right's equivalent to MMFA) to find out about Nanci Pelosi. If you want to find out about someone, you're not supporting him by listening to him once to twice to find out what he's about, you're educating yourself to make your own judgment.

Part of the 1st Amendment is not only the freedom to speak, but it is the freedom to hear opinions of which you adamantly disagree so that you can confirm your own opinions and viewpoints. I feel too many people on the left shut off listening to the other side because University Professors tell them that it is all "hate speech." That is nonsense.

Personally, I've listened to Democracy Now, Air America, Rush, Savage, Medved, Olbermann, O'Reilly, Hannity, etc. I've also read Kos, MMFA, Redstate, LGF, Huffington, Townhall, and this site. Consequently, I don't change my principles of limited government, but I feel I enjoy the freedom to listening to what others may call "UnAmerican" on the Right.

Overall, I just cannot understand the logic of not listening to someone, but using an interested intermediary to find out what someone is all about.

DA...I'd like to ask you this....Do you find that the con sites or stations repeat the same thing....and vica/versa....thx

Devil's Advocate @ 90:

Spicegal @ 76: Part of the 1st Amendment is not only the freedom to speak, but it is the freedom to hear opinions of which you adamantly disagree so that you can confirm your own opinions and viewpoints. I feel too many people on the left shut off listening to the other side because University Professors tell them that it is all "hate speech." That is nonsense.

The First Amendment is the right to listen or not, to watch or not, to speak up or not. The irony in this is the fact the current administration would only want the First Amendment reserved exclusively for themselves. BillO, Rush and the rest of America's conservative screechers cater to people who want affirmation, not information.

And why is it the only people who knock universities are the ones who never attended one? My professors taught me how to think - not what to think. Big difference.

99. Read the entire statement. Not only does he imply that the only reason the Democratic party would pay attention to the violence and genocide in Darfur is because American blacks would reject the party if they don't, he says that is the only reason the apartheid government of South Africa was eventually removed. Not because it was the just and noble thing to do-to eliminate a form of government that subjugated ethnic and racial groups, to eradicate the violent structure which created such world-wide disgust, but because American blacks threatened to reject the Democratic party if the Dems didn't play along with their disgust over apartheid. It is all racist, to its core.

Americans of all colors and ethnic backgrounds who care about justice and humanity rejected the white supremecist apartheid government of South Africa, and all Americans, regardless of their race or ethnicity, should care about the genocide in Darfur.

Only Rush and his mental midget, racist listeners will think otherwise.

Sorry-numbers changed. I was responding to annon.

devil's advocate loses. so he leaves.

Rush Limbaugh has but a high school education (he flunked out of college his freshman year). This is the person from whom millions of Americans get their political news.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/08/24/2013753.htm

Bin Laden wanted US to invade Iraq, author says
Abdul Bari Atwan is one of the only Western journalists to have interviewed Osama bin Laden, spending three days with him in the mountains of Afghanistan in 1996.
He is the editor-in-chief of the London-based Arabic newspaper, Al-Quds Al-Arabia, and the author of The secret history of Al Qaeda.

TONY JONES: When you met bin Laden, he told you that his long-term plan was to "bring the Americans into a fight on Muslim soil". That must have sounded like madness at the time, but now we have Iraq.

ABDUL BARI ATWAN: It seems Osama bin Laden had a long-term strategy. He told me personally that he can't go and fight the Americans and their country. But if he manages to provoke them and bring them to the Middle East and to their Muslim worlds, where he can find them or fight them on his own turf, he will actually teach them a lesson. It seems the invasion of Iraq fulfilled Osama bin Laden's wish.

Devil's Advocate-most of your stupidity above has been adequately addressed...however, let me bring something up.

You "limited government" types are borderline retards and out of your fucking minds.

You think that "the market" and "competition" will take care of everything?

This makes you a fool. Look at reality. In the absence of regulation, businesses do everything possible to AVOID competiton. Why do you think that Wall Street LOVES a merger so much? It's one less COMPETITOR in an industry, which enhances the whole industries ability to "maximize profit"....in other words, stick it to their customers.

And if you think that governmnet has a monopoly on inefficiency, you wuold be sadly sadly delusional and mistaken. Just off the top of my head, it took me THREE WEEJS to get Verizon over to my house to turn on a phone line, and I just waited SEVEN HOURS in the emergency room of a for profit hospital for some minor medical treatment. You ever worked for a big corporation? Especially in the "home office", there is more stupidity going on than you could possibly imagine. Why do you think that things like "Dilbert" and "The Office" are popular favorites? Could it possibly be that they REFLECT REALITY.

Bureaucrasy and stupidty are human problems, not government service problems.

V V

Blacks vote for Democrats because of racist reich-wingers like Rush et al.

Beagle @ 107:

Rush Limbaugh has but a high school education (he flunked out of college his freshman year). This is the person from whom millions of Americans get their political news.

Stupidity breeds stupidity.

devil's advocate,

i will only respond to your assertion that rush is not a liar

sorry, but he admitted on his radio program that he lied for at least 6 years, when he said that he was going to stop being the water carrier for the repugs in congress

he also lied about how he lost his hearing (and then regained it)

he had his maid lie so that he could get drugs

i could go on and on

rush lies

Well Rush will always appeal to his core audience. That is fat, doughy, cowardly, racist white men...

rush doesn't lie???........Aaaaggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................thud!

Is it just me or does it remind you of the Cosby show where he talks to little kids when RTLM & Devil try to be intellectual? I guess it isn't possible to discuss with tape recorders.

cobalt @ 30:

Limbaugh saying something stupid is not news.

Limbaugh actually saying something inteligent - now, that's rare enough to be news.

Has that actually ever happened in the history of Rush Limbaugh?

Ugh. RePUGnant!

Rush just can't believe that anyone would want to take action for humanitarian reasons. He said it himself (see, repugs only tell the truth by accident) when he pointed
out that there is no strategic or national interest in going into Darfur! His blackened little raisin of a heart just cannot take it all in.

An interesting talk by one of today’s leading experts on the Middle East. The talk was given Friday at the New America Foundation. Based on Cole’s new book, Napoleon’s Egypt: Invading the Middle East.

Jaun Cole:

Lessons from Past Western Incursions in the Middle East

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkHknUmnBaA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eantiw...

Devil's Advocate @ 95:

bill w @ 95:

dadams @ 1:

rush has been, is and always will be a racist.
he's just one more of the worse kind of human on the planet.

Along with bush, chainy, etc.

Bush has appointed more black people to higher places in office than any President in history. Stop quoting K. West for talking points.

It doesn't change the *fact* that reich-wingers are racists.

Sorry, I don't listen to drug addicted college drop outs who take trips to Carribean islands, know for their child prostitutes, with a suitcase full of Viagra. Just not my thing.

Dr. Matt @ 119:

Devil's Advocate @ 95:

bill w @ 95:

dadams @ 1:

Along with bush, chainy, etc.

Bush has appointed more black people to higher places in office than any President in history. Stop quoting K. West for talking points.

It doesn't change the *fact* that reich-wingers are racists.

I suspect that the "Bush has more black people in high office....'

...(sorry, hit the button) as I was saying is a flat out fabrication.

Let me clarify something too.....not all rethugs are racists in the way that it is most commonly thought of, although their party does encompass the cross burning white sheet set. A lot of rethughs have no problem whatsoever with black people......so long as they "step and fetchit", act in a manner that amuses them (example, Michael Jordan), "stay in their place" (crammed into the ghetto and not coming out to our suburban and exburban neighborhoods), don't complain about things like being hassled for "walking while black", or otherwise expect to get a piece of the pie. But you know, they don't mind the fact that you are black......that's how they view themselves as "live and let live" and "tolerant".

V V

O! Rush! Must you continue disproving the theory of evolution...

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I don't see what everybody's getting their panties in a wad about. Do you disagree that Democrats need the black vote? Do you disagree that focusing on Darfur would appeal to black voters?

So wait, what did he say that makes him a blowhard-jackass-racist-bigot etcetc?

All he said is that Democrats kiss up to certain sections of the population with their strategy. Doesnt every politician do that?
You all should take a step back and look at how hypocritical you all sound. You are criticizing someone for the very comments you in turn say about him. Only thing is, he never said them, but you did.

(No, I am not a Diddo head, Republican)

JJohnson @ 116:
Has that actually ever happened in the history of Rush Limbaugh?

Not that I'm aware of. A truthful statement from Limbaugh is rarer, and harder to locate than Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster and Elvis put together.

An actual, provable sighting would certainly be a newsworthy event.

Emerald #104: Yeah that was right and everyone supported the restructure of South African government. Sadly it didn't immediately lead to liberty.
Instead we told them to live like us, with our backs turned, one hand washed the other and a great horror ensued. While whites were slaughtered and
subjugated. I wouldn't or couldn't say I knew the answer to apartheid in South Africa but implying the solution was all rosy is just as foolish as
implying the US civil war was without dark times.

I am just wondering what intervention in Dafur would involve? Sending goods, the goods will go the killers. Getting in a military involvement? That's just
what we need another US war(sarcasm). UN something or other? Normally the UNs unilateral solution is: US gives it resources away to the scum of
the world and funds UN guards while they monitor the situation of course (not doing anything else). Scum of the world replies: "You are greedy give
me more, ya know it costs a lot to kill innocents now and days." Or should we just care and do nothing?

With a perspective of the past issues should bring to mind our current issues. We can't wave a wand and make the world a better place it takes effort.
My self, I don't think they: South Africans, Afghanis, Iraqis, Dafurians? are worth the effort. We should stop being the world police. All we have is our
ideals grounded in values and ethics. That's why we are so special, if you think about it that's not so special. If they want to change then they will.

LizzardLipps @ 125:

I don't see what everybody's getting their panties in a wad about. Do you disagree that Democrats need the black vote? Do you disagree that focusing on Darfur would appeal to black voters?

The assumption that the Darfur crisis appeals more to black Americans than other groups is rather simplistic, and frankly, derived from an ignorance of the fact that Sudanese Africans and black Americans are two distinct groups of people.
Any person who is truly aware of what is happening in Darfur and happens to have a soul would want the genocide to end.
Having black skin doesn't make someone automatically understand the suffering of people in Darfur. Not all black people are in touch with all the things happening in all the countries of Africa, the same way I'm not aware of what's happening all the time in Yugoslavia or Sweden.
I'm sure having compassion for people in Sudan can make a politician look good (or HUMAN), and ignoring the genocide could be the result of racism, but it's a false assumption that black Americans have some inherent connection to this issue.

Annon at 128

What South Africa are you talking about? I am from South Africa and I don't recall whites being slaughtered. The only whites who were slaughtered were those trying to put an end to what was going to be and eventually turned out to be free elections.
The AWB "army" marched into Bophutatswana guns blazing and got their butts kicked, and rightfully so. You most probably have white South African friends who are
telling you of all the horrors in South Africa. To be honest, and if they are honest, they left the country because they could not live a life of privilege anymore
and are quite bitter about being here as well, because there lives are no better here.

On another note, I can't see how African Americans can be Republicans. Can someone explain?

We can end the genocide in Darfur w/out war. Limbaugh should get his head out of his own ass long enough to read "Not On Our Watch" for a clue.

Macit #130: Actually the man was a lineman for the power company and he and his wife fled after their daughter was raped and murdered.
They blame themselves for being complacent when similar crimes happened to a half of dozen of their friends and acquaintances.

Rush is terrific and funny and entertaining. I do agree that he's a mouthpiece for Republicans too much, not willing to actually criticize
them much. But I think he points out some very funny, crazy things about our society and world in an entertaining fashion.
Now, Sean Hannity, he is boring and a blowhard, man, dullsville.

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