There are a number of reasons that I am not an Obama supporter, but this observation of Jackson's is not one of them.

...

I accuse Jesse of being irrelevant. What he should do is make the issue himself or be quiet. What the hell is he really thinking?

Well, so much for brotherhood.

If Jesse Jackson was...*POOF*...suddenly Jewish...?

Not sure why, but that thought makes me giggle.

I bet Rev. Jackson would be a bit surprised too!

It seems to me rather unclear what did happen, except that some kids had a "place" staked out and another kid tried to force his way into it and it ended in violence. Just because a group of people have a certain place where they always have lunch, doesn't mean you're being discriminated against if you can't eat there too. The noose should not have been used, but some of this situation sounds like an intentional instigation of confrontation.

Didn't Jackson used to be a decent figure in American politics? Answer: Yes. Now he seems to be little more than man who loves shameless self promotion. I guess in that respect he reminds me of Ralph Nader. Both are guys who can't seem to accept the fact that the limelight has set on their political careers.

**Jackson really ought to know better.**

He does know better. The man is a racist demagogue. Always has been. Always will be.

The sooner he becomes irrelevant, the better.

Everyone seems to forget that with a white mother and black father, Obama is every bit as white as he is black. Even he seems to be ignoring his own white heritage, which bothers me quite a bit.

What happened in Jena is horrible, but Jesse Jackson is ridiculous. If you want to focus on this story, then focus on the actual events, not Obama's reaction to them. Jackson is stereotyping his own race by identifying specific responses as either black or white. How does one act white? At the same time, how does one act black?

They say when Doctor King got shot,
Jesse hatched an awful plot,
Dipped his hands in the Doctor's blood,
'N rubbed his shirt like playin' with mud
Looked around for all the press,
Said: "Check me out, my name is Jess!
I'll be known from towns 'n farms -
Doctor King died in my arms!"

"What if they were Jewish and he said he was acting Goy?"

Well, then NYC would no longer be "Hymie-town" now would it?

EASY ON OBAMA.. HE'S TRYING TO APPEAL TO ALL THE WHITE FOLK WHO ARE DRIVING SAABS AND VOLVO STATION WAGONS.

I wonder if Obama will have to give up his black membership card now that he's been accused of being white. Just think of all the cool parties he'll miss out on once they revoke his racial status.

Stupid comment from Jackson. He's just jealous of Obama.

Jesse is an old time racist.

This is Jesse at his best.

Is Obama white? Or, is Obama black?

The two questions dogging my candidate for the entire time have been, "Is America ready for a black president?" and "Is Obama black enough?"

Jesse, in very few words, (which is the definition of eloquence, by the way) annoints Obama: black, by default; white, by suggestion; and gets the Jenna Six plastered all over both the liberal and conservative media.

The man is a genius! (and I'd love him even if he wasn't)

With the Republican heavy-weights dissing Tavis Smiley's PBS debate, the GOP is looking like they're pandering to an ever increasingly IRRELEVANT section of the population, while the Democrats are looking more and more like the People's Party (the "all colors of people" party.)

I can't wait to see the shots of the delegates RUNNING past the men's room in the Minneapolis Airport as they make their way to the convention.

Racist perverts, the lot of them.

rici @ 24:

EASY ON OBAMA.. HE'S TRYING TO APPEAL TO ALL THE WHITE FOLK WHO ARE DRIVING SAABS AND VOLVO STATION WAGONS.

When his wife grows her hair out and gets it straightened the assimilation will be complete. Resistance is futile!

Maybe We the People are in fact heading to a showdown between the Cons and Blackwater in this country and maybe he's right.

L.A. Confidential @ 37:

I mean who you going to prefer having a beer with Fred Thompson or Stevie Wonder?

Stevie.

i knew everyone was going to read the headline of this blog thread and instantly use it to attack jesse jackson. i bet every commentor skipped even reading the cnn link or it's "the state" newspaper link. neither of which headline have the same headline. also, neither of which actually give the speech or transcript that shows where jesse actually says this. but what is said is that jesse thinks more attention should be paid by presidential candidates on this issue and also that jesse fully supports obama. "....I commend Sen. Obama for speaking out and demanding fairness on this defining issue. Any attempt to dilute my support for Sen. Obama will not succeed."
all you have is that 1 independent newspaper in south carolina said that he said that quote and jackson saying that he doesn't recall saying that.
so at least stop doing what the conservatives do and read more than just headlines before you bash someone for trying to speak out against civil rights violations which is really what this thread should be about. Shame on Steve Benen for diverting the issue.

Should Obama win the Presidential election he's going to be facing Jackson, Sharpton and others just like them who are going to try and force their own agendas of Race Baiting down Obama's throat. Jesse Jackson doesn't represent the African Americans of today as they have moved on as the Jesse Jackson hasn't which makes him irrelevant.

mister mix @ 40:

i knew everyone was going to read the headline of this blog thread and instantly use it to attack jesse jackson. i bet every commentor skipped even reading the cnn link or it's "the state" newspaper link. neither of which headline have the same headline. also, neither of which actually give the speech or transcript that shows where jesse actually says this. but what is said is that jesse thinks more attention should be paid by presidential candidates on this issue and also that jesse fully supports obama. "....I commend Sen. Obama for speaking out and demanding fairness on this defining issue. Any attempt to dilute my support for Sen. Obama will not succeed."
all you have is that 1 independent newspaper in south carolina said that he said that quote and jackson saying that he doesn't recall saying that.
so at least stop doing what the conservatives do and read more than just headlines before you bash someone for trying to speak out against civil rights violations which is really what this thread should be about. Shame on Steve Benen for diverting the issue.

My complaint comes from personal experience (see comment 33) so i am admitedly biased.

While i agree Jackson is a good speaker and has a lot of respect in the black community a closer look reveals a man who has done exceptionally little with the kind of charisma and credintials he has.

If 6 black men beating 1 white man to inches within death isn't a HATE CRIME, then I don't know what is.

Nicholas @ 46:

If 6 black men beating 1 white man to inches within death isn't a HATE CRIME, then I don't know what is.

I might agree with you if you could point out where that happened. It did not happen in Jena, Lousianna.

xoites defends Constitution @ 44:

While i agree Jackson is a good speaker and has a lot of respect in the black community a closer look reveals a man who has done exceptionally little with the kind of charisma and credintials he has.

well, he's been actively involved with bringing national attention to jena 6 for months now. an issue that even the national chapter of the naacp wouldn't touch. now they have 50,000 people marching in jena. (la a town that only holds 3,000) so whatever YOUR complaint is. he's probably doing alot more than us keyboard warriors right now

mister mix @ 40:

i knew everyone was going to read the headline of this blog thread and instantly use it to attack jesse jackson. i bet every commentor skipped even reading the cnn link or it's "the state" newspaper link. neither of which headline have the same headline. also, neither of which actually give the speech or transcript that shows where jesse actually says this. but what is said is that jesse thinks more attention should be paid by presidential candidates on this issue and also that jesse fully supports obama. "....I commend Sen. Obama for speaking out and demanding fairness on this defining issue. Any attempt to dilute my support for Sen. Obama will not succeed."
all you have is that 1 independent newspaper in south carolina said that he said that quote and jackson saying that he doesn't recall saying that.
so at least stop doing what the conservatives do and read more than just headlines before you bash someone for trying to speak out against civil rights violations which is really what this thread should be about. Shame on Steve Benen for diverting the issue.

Jesse Jackson is about as relevant to the national discourse at this point as Paris Hilton is. Jackson has earned his reputation as a race hustling, moral twit ... or should we just overlook his mistress and child ...

Why this pandering fool is quoted by anyone outside of backyard barbecue is beyond me. Let me repeat ... Fuck. Jesse. Jackson (and feel free to fuck him like the parade of women who found the good Rev so compelling). He does nothing for the Democrat9ic party except to incite the ire of people who would rather hold that ire for the Bush-fucks.

And i did not hear about the Jena Six from Jackson, either.

Everyone knows that Al Gore didn't claim to invent the internet, but that it was a stupid corporate media meme to make him seem like an egotistical blowhard. Now someone claims, no video or audio, that Jesse Jackson, a civil rights leader is accusing Obama of not being white enough. I don't like Obama, for political reasons, but the corporate press has been trying to push a "too black" or "not black enough" spin on Obama and it hasn't stuck. Then they attribute it to Jackson and everybody runs around hollering. Maybe Jackson said it, it doesn't sound like something he'd say, but maybe yall should think about running with the reprimand a little too quick. Maybe we shouldn't believe everything we read on Al Gore's invention.

xoites defends Constitution @ 53:

mister mix @ 50:

xoites defends Constitution @ 44:

While i agree Jackson is a good speaker and has a lot of respect in the black community a closer look reveals a man who has done exceptionally little with the kind of charisma and credintials he has.

well, he's been actively involved with bringing national attention to jena 6 for months now. an issue that even the national chapter of the naacp wouldn't touch. now they have 50,000 people marching in jena. (la a town that only holds 3,000) so whatever YOUR complaint is. he's probably doing alot more than us keyboard warriors right now

The NAACP has been involved since at least July.

not the national chapter. you should see the interviews on democracy now. the national chapter only told the locals to form their own chapter and deal with it themselves.
jessee and al sharpton through their "national action network" have been working on this before july which is why they were able to bring the first real marches and national media (other than democracy now) to jena in august. i've been hearing this on sharptontalk for a long while now my friend.

mister mix @ 58:

xoites defends Constitution @ 53:

mister mix @ 50:

xoites defends Constitution @ 44:
well, he's been actively involved with bringing national attention to jena 6 for months now. an issue that even the national chapter of the naacp wouldn't touch. now they have 50,000 people marching in jena. (la a town that only holds 3,000) so whatever YOUR complaint is. he's probably doing alot more than us keyboard warriors right now

The NAACP has been involved since at least July.

not the national chapter. you should see the interviews on democracy now. the national chapter only told the locals to form their own chapter and deal with it themselves.
jessee and al sharpton through their "national action network" have been working on this before july which is why they were able to bring the first real marches and national media (other than democracy now) to jena in august. i've been hearing this on sharptontalk for a long while now my friend.

Ok, i stand corrected. You have my appologies. If Jackson has done what you say (and i have no reason to disbelieve you) he has regained my respect. Sharpton has never lost my respect.

Has this been verified?

If he said it, he really should know better.

Dimple @ 61:

As long as all Americans, all races, religions, creeds, etc...are losing our liberties to a fascist cabal, maybe we should make a list of wedge issues we just won't discuss.
1. Race

I think race is an issue too long ignored. We need to discuss it.

I think it is far too easy for people who are not on the wrong end of the race issue to simply say it would be better not to talk about such things.

mister mix @ 65:

Batocchio @ 62:

Has this been verified?

If he said it, he really should know better.

that was 1 of my points. reading the related articles and not just the blog thread headline, apparently it has no legs (at least not yet). it wasn't even the central point of the articles that this blog is referring to.

Steve Benan has basically pulled a "Fox News" style hit job on jesse jackson with his headline. i'm saying that because i've actually READ the related articles.

Jesse Jackson is a fucking moron. Jesse and Al Sharpton do nothing to actually help blacks in America. Instead they turn serious matters into wedge issues to further promote their own special interests. If they really wanted to help blacks in this country they would shut up and stop trying to inject race into every fucking issue.

Sadly the main stream media uses these two clowns to represent blacks in this country. Once these clowns are forgotten real leaders can step up in the black community and actually try to help the community instead of creating political circus.

Dimple @ 69:

xoites defends Constitution @ 64:

Dimple @ 61:

As long as all Americans, all races, religions, creeds, etc...are losing our liberties to a fascist cabal, maybe we should make a list of wedge issues we just won't discuss.
1. Race

I think race is an issue too long ignored. We need to discuss it.

No, no...I agree with you except I feel like it might ought be a little further down the list on the very long list of things that need and deserve a discussion - a real discussion with the absolute free flow of ideas. Is race on the list? Absolutely. But we are losing the 1st amendment as we speak (no pun intended). Don't you think this should be our paramount discussion, presently, at least?

i take it your are not black. or even latino for that matter.

Jesse Jackson is a racist prick.

72 mister mix

i take it your are not black. or even latino for that matter.

No, i am Irish American but there is strong evidence to suggest that most Irish and most Irish Americans are also African (although i am sure a large number of Irish Americans would freak out at the notion.)

CDB @ 74:

Jesse Jackson is a racist prick.

Oh, good thing you're not.

mister mix @ 72:

Dimple @ 69:

xoites defends Constitution @ 64:

Dimple @ 61:

I think race is an issue too long ignored. We need to discuss it.

No, no...I agree with you except I feel like it might ought be a little further down the list on the very long list of things that need and deserve a discussion - a real discussion with the absolute free flow of ideas. Is race on the list? Absolutely. But we are losing the 1st amendment as we speak (no pun intended). Don't you think this should be our paramount discussion, presently, at least?

i take it your are not black. or even latino for that matter.

No, I'm white, but my love is from Guadalajara, Mexico here on a work visa.

I never said outlaw the subject of race or taser anyone who brings up the subject, I just said we ought to choose more pressing topics, like the fact that there actually are subjects that seem outlawed and can, indeed, result in you getting tasered.

america has two HUGE problems on which it was founded: Class and Race.

Race is off the table for whites.

the war is a slight issue, the gay is a bigger issue. personal poverty, immigration, keeping a job, watching a football game, gas prices.....

anything but Race and Class. Because America does not want to confront, nor ever has confronted the issues of race and class with the intent of really resolving those issues.

So as long as any other issue is available, it will always preempt the issue of race in importance.

BTW, Huffpo the puffsite has the same headline.

Race is a myth. Racism isn't.

Charles @ 59:

It's unfortunate that Jesse Jackson of all people would say something that outdated and devisive.

did you read the entire article for content and context?

there seems to be a shortage of thoroughly informed opinion.

Jordan @ 85:

xoites defends Constitution @ 73:

Jordan @ 70:
For some reason anybody who tells someone else to shut up is very hard for me to listen to.

Sorry after years of listening to this moron speak I've lost all of my respect for him.

mister mix @ 75:

Jordan @ 70:

sure real leaders like yourself who stand up for "blacks" all the time right? hey than you for referring my entire race as an adjective, btw.

Yeah, I'm black also, your point? Sorry I didn't say "African American." It's not like I'm going to start saying Caucasian American for every white dude i see. It's a lot easier just to say/type white or black.

And you know what, I do try to defend the community. I tried to organize other blacks in my school to call into KSFO to complain about Rush Limbaugh and his "Barack the Magic Negro" song. I don't even know why I have to justify myself to someone who will troll a poster for saying "black."

I say black and i don't see anything wrong with it unless you are trying to use it in a derogatory way. (Not sure how that would work.) I would like to know your reasons for calling Jackson a putz. I suspect i may share some of your views but i also might disagree.

xoites defends Constitution @ 53:

mister mix @ 50:

xoites defends Constitution @ 44:

While i agree Jackson is a good speaker and has a lot of respect in the black community a closer look reveals a man who has done exceptionally little with the kind of charisma and credintials he has.

well, he's been actively involved with bringing national attention to jena 6 for months now. an issue that even the national chapter of the naacp wouldn't touch. now they have 50,000 people marching in jena. (la a town that only holds 3,000) so whatever YOUR complaint is. he's probably doing alot more than us keyboard warriors right now

The NAACP has been involved since at least July.

Speaking of irrelevant... the NAACP is irrelevant. They wouldn't help the people in Jena start an NAACP chapter; they were told to start a chapter themselves (whatever that entailed) and then they could get involved (and that involvement did not include legal assistance).

Nonetheless, who knows what Jesse really said; I certainly wouldn't believe anything the MSM said about it. They act like white people, so generally speaking I take everything they report with a grain of salt.

Jordan @ 85:

And you know what, I do try to defend the community. I tried to organize other blacks in my school to call into KSFO to complain about Rush Limbaugh and his "Barack the Magic Negro" song. I don't even know why I have to justify myself to someone who will troll a poster for saying "black."

so while "real leaders" like yourself are getting your school together to complain about rush limbaugh, fake ones like jesse are trying to get teenagers out of jail who are facing life sentences. i see your point now. i can't wait for jesse to step down from his black american thrown so i can follow you.

lol you actually called me a troll. good one. i will remember that :)

Dimple @ 91:

mister mix @ 87:

Dimple @ 80:

No, I'm white, but my love is from Guadalajara, Mexico here on a work visa.

I never said outlaw the subject of race or taser anyone who brings up the subject, I just said we ought to choose more pressing topics, like the fact that there actually are subjects that seem outlawed and can, indeed, result in you getting tasered.

let me put it in a way that's related to the actual topic of this thread. you're just a student going to school in america. you ask to sit under a tree in a school and when you do someone puts 3 nooses under a tree. you go to a party after school. and get beat up because of your race. weeks later the same people who beat you up then hold a shot gun to your face which you have to wrestle from them. only to get charges of theft brought against you. later you are called "racial slurs" and when you fight back you are charged with attempted murder and are send to jail for the rest of your young life. would you think race should be put at the bottom of the list then?

to put it further would you want someone to speak up for you even if that person is jesse jackson?

My brother was born with a birth defect called spina bifida out in Bush-Loving West Texas. You think race is the only excuse people will use to abuse, torture and kill? Think again. Injustice of any kind should be corrected. But right now, you can walk up to a politician, ask an unpopular question and be arrested and tortured on the spot. Is there no such thing as priority? And I'm a bad guy for trying to keep everyones head on straight.

No, you are not a bad guy. You just need to realize how ALL of these issues are related. We have been divided and conquored. The only way to get back on our feet and get our rights and freedoms back is to understand all the things we are all going through. Race relations is one of those many things and should not be excluded.

Jackson and Sharpton get all the vitriol. As I have listened to them address issues, they sound intelligent, informed and commited. And they certainly do more than sit at keyboards and type angry bullshit at people.

Say whatever the fuck you want about either one of them. They and their organizations do more for others than they'll ever get credit for. And I'm sure they have been called worse than any name appearing on this blog.

Dimple @ 91:

My brother was born with a birth defect called spina bifida out in Bush-Loving West Texas. You think race is the only excuse people will use to abuse, torture and kill? Think again. Injustice of any kind should be corrected. But right now, you can walk up to a politician, ask an unpopular question and be arrested and tortured on the spot. Is there no such thing as priority? And I'm a bad guy for trying to keep everyones head on straight.

well, how can i argue with this great example? other than the fact that if you are black there is a real possibility of being harrassed or even arrested without walking up to anyone or saying anything http://youtube.com/watch?v=QCyN7RDSxjg

Isome @ 95:

And any way... why are white people offended if they think he did say that? Don't you prefer Black folx who act like you? Come on, now. Is it really that satisfying for white folx to be able to point the finger at non-white ones and call them 'racist'? Are you feeling better about your collective behavior now?

you are taking the words right out of my mouth

mister mix @ 98:
...how can i argue with this great example? other than the fact that if you are black there is a real possibility of being harrassed or even arrested without walking up to anyone or saying anything http://youtube.com/watch?v=QCyN7RDSxjg

Yeah, the whole LWB (living while Black) thing is a factor people forget when they try to minimize the impact that discrimination has on the lives of people of African descent.

Oh' and I'll share those words with you... I wouldn't want to be selfish. ;-)

Isome @ 90:

xoites defends Constitution @ 53:

mister mix @ 50:

xoites defends Constitution @ 44:

The NAACP has been involved since at least July.

Speaking of irrelevant... the NAACP is irrelevant. They wouldn't help the people in Jena start an NAACP chapter; they were told to start a chapter themselves (whatever that entailed) and then they could get involved (and that involvement did not include legal assistance).

What exactly makes the NAACP irrelevant?

I lost a lot of respect for Jesse Jackson and his crew quite a few years ago. The writer's organization I belonged to had booked a fairly prestigious Angeles hotel and their function rooms for an annual awards ceremony, which wasn't cheap. Unfortunately, the hotel goofed, and there was a slight overlap in exactly when one party would be leaving and the other party arriving. The party arriving happened to be Jesse Jackson and his team. His minions, to a man and woman, were boorish, rude and arrogant beyond belief, and when one of our members dared to question why they were barging in and tossing out stuff that didn't belong to them to make way for their stuff, he was told rather bluntly to STFU, that his colour (white) didn't give him any special privileges. The hotel staff were asked to intervene and, understandably, were rather reluctant to do so. It got rather heated and ugly rather fast. My partner and I left, early, and all I ever saw of the Great Man was him breezing into the hotel lobby as if he were God's Own Appointed One, while a phalanx of his followers before him plowed through the crowd of mostly white, mostly middle-aged, mostly middle-class, mostly writers without so much as an 'excuse me' to be heard.

Apparently, in Jesse Jackson's rainbow, the only colour that counts is black.

xoites defends Constitution @ 99:

I think you should be you and i should be me. If i were someone else it would confuse the hell out of me.

What a card!!

BaScOmBe @ 104:
What exactly makes the NAACP irrelevant?

Just what I said with specific regard to this instance. I won't go into the awards they hand out every year; that requires a different venue.

xoites defends Constitution @ 105:

mister mix @ 98:

Dimple @ 91:

My brother was born with a birth defect called spina bifida out in Bush-Loving West Texas. You think race is the only excuse people will use to abuse, torture and kill? Think again. Injustice of any kind should be corrected. But right now, you can walk up to a politician, ask an unpopular question and be arrested and tortured on the spot. Is there no such thing as priority? And I'm a bad guy for trying to keep everyones head on straight.

well, how can i argue with this great example? other than the fact that if you are black there is a real possibility of being harrassed or even arrested without walking up to anyone or saying anything http://youtube.com/watch?v=QCyN7RDSxjg

I don't need to watch a video of that. Seen it and experience it myself. Have a friend with a black girlfriend who was refused service in a restaraunt when she was with him. Have friends who i have witnessed get harrassed, arrested and beaten by the police. i know this shit is real, i do not need to be convinced.

this is the second time i responded to a quote to Dimple and you responded to me like i was responding to you. are you and Dimple the same people? if so let me know so i won't get confused.

I am mostly white(mix) and yet even by my own observation, I see ethnic cleansing in America right now. Much of the volunteer military are the minority dark skin people. Then they are sent to fight the war, and their votes wash, as the people of New Orleans literally wash from the flood.

But the race issue is just a tool to bring on fear. You got to caught up by fear to be manipulated. I don't know if anyone notice but the race issue to me is progressing, and I could see it coming. What the congress failed to do is come to the rescue of the Katrina victim. I commend the black community that have restrain this anger and to see what it is and see it as a class struggle. I think we have learn from MLK and he was the guy we look up to for being a uniter in including support from all walks of life.

Steven Colbert call this the X-Nay generation, the generation that doesn't give a shit.

Here, in this place called C&L if you post expect a response, unless what you are saying bears ignoring.

What South Carolina paper? Sure it's just not a "let's get the two black dudes to fight" sort of thing? There is a substantive issue here, but "acting white" is kind of unfair -- if he said it.

Besides, Mr mix i was supporting your argument.

mister mix @ 122:

xoites defends Constitution @ 117:

Here, in this place called C&L if you post expect a response, unless what you are saying bears ignoring.

it's not the response. it's the way that you responded. you responded as if my comment was towards you directly. anyway, my question about you being dimple wasn't sarcasm, it was a real question.

Posting under two nic names on this site is grounds for permanent banning. I have been posting here for two or three years under one name (although i was originally and briefly simply "xoites") and i have never been banned.

please, people, obama never said he would invade any other countries! there is a vast, massive difference between making a strike at an al-qaeda camp and invading a country.

CDB @ 124:

Isome @ 118:

CDB @ 114:

Sounds like an excuse to be racist.

Clearly you don't have a clue.

Just because your impact as a racist doesn't measure up to the "other's" impact, doesn't make you less of a racist.

You are calling people racist based on what?
Please explain yourself.

mister mix @ 92:

Jordan @ 85:
so while "real leaders" like yourself are getting your school together to complain about rush limbaugh, fake ones like jesse are trying to get teenagers out of jail who are facing life sentences. i see your point now. i can't wait for jesse to step down from his black american thrown so i can follow you.

lol you actually called me a troll. good one. i will remember that :)

Man first you attack me for saying black and hoping that I was a white dude. And now you're trying to attack me because of our grass roots organizational efforts.

Heh go head and attack our work, at least we're trying to do something. Instead of playing armchair social advocate on the crooks and liars forum.

Quoting my original post and trying to attack me because I said "black" instead of "African American." That pretty much sounds like a troll to me.

Yes, my hat goes off to anyone who helps blacks who are incarcerated in this horrible prison system. But even when Jesse does something like that, even though it takes a vast majority of people working under him who truly get the ball rolling, he negates that effort by making stupid comments. These comments do nothing but increase the racial divide in this country and it helps the media to focus on his archaic statements instead of focusing on the true problems that are affecting the community.

Plenty of other people work even harder than Jesse but do it for the sole reason of helping the community. Instead of trying to inflate their egos or sell themselves, they are more focused on true social work. These people, who are making strides in the community, could be the next black leaders. But they are drowned out by the idiotic comments that are blurted from Jesse's mouth.

But, hey, if you love the guy, so be it, keep drinking the kool aid.

And as far as the NAACP being irrelevant, are they irrelevant for filing a discrimination suit against a group of mortgage lenders?

Isome @ 127:

Besides, I'll say it again, white people prefer others 'act' like them, so I really don't understand the need for feigned outrage.

I can only surmise that this is just another opportunity to jump on Jesse Jackson. *lol* Enjoy it!

again took the words out of my mouth

"But “acting white”? Jackson really ought to know better."

Especially since Obama is half white.

What did Jackson mean, if he did in fact say this? I take it to mean that Jackson feels Obama, as a black candidate, is not distinguishing himself from all the other candidates in the amount of attention he's paying to this issue.

Jordan @ 128:

These comments do nothing but increase the racial divide in this country and it helps the media to focus on his archaic statements instead of focusing on the true problems that are affecting the community.

You seem confused. There is a racial divide in this country that cannot and is not affected by anything someone of African descent says or does. The racial issue is endemic and systemic and isn't of 'our' doing, although we have tried to UNdo it.

Jordan @ 128:

But, hey, if you love the guy, so be it, keep drinking the kool aid.

Seems to me that it is you who has had way too much kool-aid... the Jim Jones variety no less. To imply that Black people are responsible for the racial divide and/or polarization in this country is insanity, given all the evidence to the contrary. Sundown towns, job discrimination, government discrimination (FHA loans, Black farmers) police profiling around the country & police torture in Chicago, etc. etc.) you actually took the time to type out with your fingers that what Jesse Jackson says increases the racial divide?

Wow... tragic.

Those kids deserve punishment, but not life. However, there are too many people acting like they're completely blameless. The 6 jumped and beat down 1 guy and supposedly kicked him while unconsious, which would bring serious charges anywhere for anyone, regardless of race. Personally, I'm a liberal that no longer cares about racism, its too far down the list of problems and there's just too much self service going on in the racism industry. Jesse Jackson is a turd nonpareil.

xoites defends Constitution @ 137:

If you have the clout of Jesse Jackson you have a responsibility. I am not suggesting i have the shoulders to bear that responsibility, but Nonny Mouse's personal interaction with Jesse Jackson and my personal interaction with Jesse Jackson suggests (among a lot of other things) that he is not being responsible. ...

That's not what I recall reading. Neither of you claim to have had personal interaction with Jackson. You said his staff or his entourage or his advance people acted arrogant and discourteously... not Jackson himself. Did I misread your respective posts?

arch stanton @ 140:

Those kids deserve punishment, but not life. However, there are too many people acting like they're completely blameless. The 6 jumped and beat down 1 guy and supposedly kicked him while unconsious, which would bring serious charges anywhere for anyone, regardless of race. Personally, I'm a liberal that no longer cares about racism, its too far down the list of problems and there's just too much self service going on in the racism industry. Jesse Jackson is a turd nonpareil.

A liberal who no longer cares about race is a Republican.

Jesse and Obama don't operate from a shared history of systematic oppression, yet there is nothing wrong with reminding the Senator that until we get to the Promised Land race will always matter; and we're not there yet.

arch stanton @ 140:

Those kids deserve punishment, but not life. However, there are too many people acting like they're completely blameless. The 6 jumped and beat down 1 guy and supposedly kicked him while unconsious, which would bring serious charges anywhere for anyone, regardless of race. Personally, I'm a liberal that no longer cares about racism, its too far down the list of problems and there's just too much self service going on in the racism industry. Jesse Jackson is a turd nonpareil.

Obviously you didn't read about the facts of the case. They didn't jump on him and kick him while unconscious. In fact, the same 'victim' attended a school event later that evening. One of those charged is denying even being on the scene and his friends (who are not charged) corroborate his story. Also, you should understand that this same 'victim' was himself the 'victimizer' in a previous school yard confrontation and suffered NO consequences. And, the Jena 6 are charged with felony charges that carry sentences that are decades-long.

Be a scout and check it out before you believe the worst because it was 6 Black males charged.

nonny mouse @ 147:

Isome - my observation of Mr Jackson as he entered the hotel was of a man enormously pleased with himself and his prestige, and who took absolutely no notice whatsoever of the abysmal way his people right in front of his nose, were treating other guests of the hotel simply because they were white and in their way.

That's as much 'personal interaction' as I ever want to have with Mr Jackson, thankyou.

Just what I said. No personal interaction. Thank you.