Reich-wingers, the anti-fact party. Fact.

Frist.

:)

Vitter = lying a$$hat... just like the rest of his "party"

I thought I just heard a sound clip of the President sputtering that if the budget he receives is loaded with earmarks he won't sign it. The hypocrisy goes on in layers I guess...

He also EARMARKED MORE FUNDS FOR DENTAL DAMS THAN LEVIES.

I saw a bumper sticker this weekend that said, Evolution is just a theory, like gravity.

The article quotes Kent Hovind, who is currently serving prison time for tax evasion. So this "science" organization gets their money from a whore and their information from a fraud so they can produce a steaming pile of bullshit. The Bible does say you'll know them by their fruits.

As I posted on Digg: Vitter's pandering to his base hoping they'll forgive him for the hooker thing...

You know if these anti-science, radical extremists want to home-school / raise up their inbred children to be morons who will never get into a non-evangelical-cult college (much less ever have a real job) that is their business; that said, however, they have no right to turn American children into morons like their own spawn are, or will become.

Not too far off topic.

# 1 1. Christianity is based on fear.
# 2 2. Christianity preys on the innocent.
# 3 3. Christianity is based on dishonesty.
# 4 4. Christianity is extremely egocentric.
# 5 5. Christianity breeds arrogance, a chosen-people mentality.
# 6 6. Christianity breeds authoritarianism.
# 7 7. Christianity is cruel.
# 8 8. Christianity is anti-intellectual, anti-scientific.
# 9 9. Christianity has a morbid, unhealthy preoccupation with sex.
# 10 10. Christianity produces sexual misery.
# 11 11. Christianity has an exceedingly narrow, legalistic view of morality.
# 12 12. Christianity encourages acceptance of real evils while focusing on imaginary evils.
# 13 13. Christianity depreciates the natural world.
# 14 14. Christianity models hierarchical, authoritarian organization.
# 15 15. Christianity sanctions slavery.
# 16 16. Christianity is misogynistic.
# 17 17. Christianity is homophobic.
# 18 18. The Bible is not a reliable guide to Christ’s teachings.
# 19 19. The Bible, Christianity’s basic text, is riddled with contradictions.
# 20 20. Christianity borrowed its central myths and ceremonies from other ancient religions.

More delightful irony on C&L today. How does any Repub defend nonsense like this? How does creationism in any way bolster labor, health or education? I'd love to hear a Republican explain that.

If we contact our worthless democratic reps... and they get involved ....what will probably happen is that Vitter will end up with $200K instead of $100K ... after all they wouldnt want the American Taliban shaming them into admitting they dont believe Jesus is the King of America...

Chet! Says:

More delightful irony on C&L today. How does any Repub defend nonsense like this? How does creationism in any way bolster labor, health or education? I’d love to hear a Republican explain that.

Because the 20%ers don't care about any of that, they get theirs (by what ever mens necessary) and Jeebus will take care of the rest for them cus they are his warriors.

Weaseldog @ 25:

Overlooking another train passenger's homework today, I saw a quote that goes something like this...

During the time of Moses, there were no written scriptures, so God revealed himself through portents, symbols, voices and burning bushes.

Which had me wondering, why was it that while the Greeks, Persians, Chinese, Indians, Sumerians, Egyptions, and others could read and write, the ancient jews were illiterate?

Oh yeah, and could anyone read the stone tablets?

Which had me wondering, why was it that while the Greeks, Persians, Chinese, Indians, Sumerians, Egyptions, and others could read and write, the ancient jews were illiterate?

Just a guess here but: cus they were slaves during the time of Moses?

Great. Another earmark of $100,000 spending bill for a socalled "Christian group"

GET THE fake religious political front groups and the "so called Christian Soldiers" out of our Justice Department, Military and our government institutions.

Our Country's founding fathers knew.

Good...
Last week, after an investigation spurred by the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, the Pentagon abruptly announced that it would not be delivering "freedom packages" to our soldiers in Iraq, as it had originally intended.
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-oe-aslan22aug22,1,2...

..Not body armor or care packages.. Rather, they held Bibles, ..and the apocalyptic computer game "Left Behind: Eternal Forces" (derived from the series of post-Rapture novels), in which "soldiers for Christ" hunt down enemies...

What we really need to do is to return to the beacon of hope that America has been.

miss_kitty @ 29:

Weaseldog @ 25:

Overlooking another train passenger's homework today, I saw a quote that goes something like this...

During the time of Moses, there were no written scriptures, so God revealed himself through portents, symbols, voices and burning bushes.

Which had me wondering, why was it that while the Greeks, Persians, Chinese, Indians, Sumerians, Egyptions, and others could read and write, the ancient jews were illiterate?

Were you on the train to Jesusland? And the Jews were poor. that's why.

Nah, just on DART in Texas.

Poor people are illiterate?

What's funny is Vitter is in trouble for trying to do what Evolution is mostly about: spreading his genes as far as he can.

I find it pathetic that this bitch boy is still in Congress but Craig was forced out. All because one is allegedly gay and other is not.

The Smiths Go To Washington Says:
GET THE fake religious political front groups and the “so called Christian Soldiers” out of our Justice Department, Military and our government institutions.

If our nation is going to survive then we really do need to purge the seditious cult members who have infiltrated our government; sadly the Democrats, for whatever reason, are scared to death of them, damn the American people who demand the purge.

If you think the earth was created in one week six thousand years ago, you're a fucking moron. I don't why people have decided to give credence to these idiots.

Frybread @ 36:

I find it pathetic that this bitch boy is still in Congress but Craig was forced out. All because one is allegedly gay and other is not.

yes, but do not forget the governor-variable (as in LA-dem gov; ID-rep gov), in that the governor would pick the replacement.

Please don't bother me with this stuff. Some blimp claiming to be Brittany Spears' former bodyguard is on MSNBC telling us of her drug use. Don't you people have priorities?

You have to admit the man has balls. Probably no one since the Borgias has thought to purchase their indulgences with public funds.

Never let it be said that the religious right has ever let facts get in their way!

Peter G. @ 46:

You have to admit the man has balls. Probably no one since the Borgias has thought to purchase their indulgences with public funds.

Are they fancy dress balls?

a tiny note about illiteracy during moses' time. many cultures had written language but it was most if not entirely known and used by the elite classes; royals, priests/monks and some servants like scribes, accountants and such.

Fanon @ 50:

miss_kitty @ 29:

Weaseldog @ 25:

Overlooking another train passenger's homework today, I saw a quote that goes something like this...

During the time of Moses, there were no written scriptures, so God revealed himself through portents, symbols, voices and burning bushes.

Which had me wondering, why was it that while the Greeks, Persians, Chinese, Indians, Sumerians, Egyptions, and others could read and write, the ancient jews were illiterate?

Ah, I quoted in the middle of kittyy's quote.
It didn't say they couldn't read, just that there were no written scriptures
Were you on the train to Jesusland? And the Jews were poor. that's why.

All of the hookers say he looks damn good in a diaper.

Of course, the irony of Vitter trying to buy favors from the religious right will be totally lost on them.

"He may be whoremonger, but he's OUR whoremonger!"

Shaniqua @ 58:

Weaseldog @ 54:

Fanon @ 50:

miss_kitty @ 29:

It didn't say they couldn't read, just that there were no written scriptures
Were you on the train to Jesusland? And the Jews were poor. that's why.

How do we know this is a fact? Because someone wrote it on a classroom worksheet? Because this fact has been handed down by word of mouth since the Catholics decided which holy scriptures should be kept and which holy scriptures should be thrown in the dustbin?

Why didn't they write that stuff down, didn't they have no paper? I know if I saw a burning bush I would have run home and got my kodak or something.

Personally, I would LOVE to see a burning BUSH. He ought to be fried for his getting us into this Iraq quagmire and for all the lives he has cost.

Jenny'O @ 51:

a tiny note about illiteracy during moses' time. many cultures had written language but it was most if not entirely known and used by the elite classes; royals, priests/monks and some servants like scribes, accountants and such.

I've heard this. There is quite a bit of truth to it. But remember that writings of these types were more likely to be preserved as they would've been archived. A grocery list, or a list tools to be acquired, not so much. And scribes and accountants were often slaves. Even educated greeks were often captured and kept as slaves to work as clerks. It was a common practice also for greeks of high learning to be a live in teacher in a house in Egypt, teaching family, servants and slaves alike.

Still we have the begging question that if written scriptures were unknown to the jews, why did God write down the Ten Commandments? And if they couldn't read and write, how did we know that they were accurately remembered? Our own religious politicans can't even keep them straight.

And how did the poor jews later write stuff down? Who wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls for them?

Shaniqua @ 58:

Weaseldog @ 54:

Fanon @ 50:

miss_kitty @ 29:

It didn't say they couldn't read, just that there were no written scriptures
Were you on the train to Jesusland? And the Jews were poor. that's why.

How do we know this is a fact? Because someone wrote it on a classroom worksheet? Because this fact has been handed down by word of mouth since the Catholics decided which holy scriptures should be kept and which holy scriptures should be thrown in the dustbin?

Why didn't they write that stuff down, didn't they have no paper? I know if I saw a burning bush I would have run home and got my kodak or something.

Since the invention of penicillin, this doesn't happen so much.

Weaseldog @ 64:

Shaniqua @ 58:

Weaseldog @ 54:

Fanon @ 50:

How do we know this is a fact? Because someone wrote it on a classroom worksheet? Because this fact has been handed down by word of mouth since the Catholics decided which holy scriptures should be kept and which holy scriptures should be thrown in the dustbin?

Why didn't they write that stuff down, didn't they have no paper? I know if I saw a burning bush I would have run home and got my kodak or something.

Since the invention of penicillin, this doesn't happen so much.

And atheist or not, we ALL thank God for the penicillin to quench the bad fire of 'The Burning Bush.'

Weaseldog @ 62:

Jenny'O @ 51:

a tiny note about illiteracy during moses' time. many cultures had written language but it was most if not entirely known and used by the elite classes; royals, priests/monks and some servants like scribes, accountants and such.

I've heard this. There is quite a bit of truth to it. But remember that writings of these types were more likely to be preserved as they would've been archived. A grocery list, or a list tools to be acquired, not so much. And scribes and accountants were often slaves. Even educated greeks were often captured and kept as slaves to work as clerks. It was a common practice also for greeks of high learning to be a live in teacher in a house in Egypt, teaching family, servants and slaves alike.

Still we have the begging question that if written scriptures were unknown to the jews, why did God write down the Ten Commandments? And if they couldn't read and write, how did we know that they were accurately remembered? Our own religious politicans can't even keep them straight.

And how did the poor jews later write stuff down? Who wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls for them?

I know one thing, if God told me to write down the 10 commandments I would have wrote it on a rag or something maybe my coat tail, not a big old stone to tote up a mountain.

Weaseldog @ 62:

Jenny'O @ 51:

a tiny note about illiteracy during moses' time. many cultures had written language but it was most if not entirely known and used by the elite classes; royals, priests/monks and some servants like scribes, accountants and such.

I've heard this. There is quite a bit of truth to it. But remember that writings of these types were more likely to be preserved as they would've been archived. A grocery list, or a list tools to be acquired, not so much. And scribes and accountants were often slaves. Even educated greeks were often captured and kept as slaves to work as clerks. It was a common practice also for greeks of high learning to be a live in teacher in a house in Egypt, teaching family, servants and slaves alike.

Still we have the begging question that if written scriptures were unknown to the jews, why did God write down the Ten Commandments? And if they couldn't read and write, how did we know that they were accurately remembered? Our own religious politicans can't even keep them straight.

And how did the poor jews later write stuff down? Who wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls for them?

I might be wrong, but I thought the Dead Sea Scrolls are believed to have been written by the Essenes, and they were scholars.

pissed off patricia @ 10:

I saw a bumper sticker this weekend that said, Evolution is just a theory, like gravity.

Next time you see that car, ram his/her car over off the side of a bridge. See if that theory of gravity kicks in.

to weaseldog, even a hypothesis has to have some value. a guess sounds more like something someone pulls out of their butt. and if i'm not too far off it think one definition of theory is a proven hypothesis. well proven in the scientific sense that was explained above...investigated, reinvesitgated and as new things are found that disprove older findings then the new replaces the old. tiny examples are found in the way neanderthals are viewed now. excavations, chemical studies and going over old fossils and other data has changed what we thought they were to what we know now...but---what we know now is comparable to what we used to know--or not know. science never stops questioning itself. new things will be found to be true, some of the old things will be disproven.
and about the tablets. think mel brooks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CB1ruv1n8U

You can get the bumper sticker I mentioned in comment #10 at the link below

http://www.northernsun.com/n/s/7021.html

Jenny'O @ 74:

to weaseldog, even a hypothesis has to have some value. a guess sounds more like something someone pulls out of their butt. and if i'm not too far off it think one definition of theory is a proven hypothesis. well proven in the scientific sense that was explained above...investigated, reinvesitgated and as new things are found that disprove older findings then the new replaces the old. tiny examples are found in the way neanderthals are viewed now. excavations, chemical studies and going over old fossils and other data has changed what we thought they were to what we know now...but---what we know now is comparable to what we used to know--or not know. science never stops questioning itself. new things will be found to be true, some of the old things will be disproven.
and about the tablets. think mel brooks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CB1ruv1n8U

An educated guess is still a guess. A hypothesis is an unproven educated or uneducated guess. Once proven to a reasonable degree of satisfaction, it can be promoted to a theory. Which is an hypothesis (educated guess) that has survived scientific testing.

A theory is not the same as a guess.

Vanna @ 75:

Gort @ 72:

pissed off patricia @ 10:

I saw a bumper sticker this weekend that said, Evolution is just a theory, like gravity.

Next time you see that car, ram his/her car over off the side of a bridge. See if that theory of gravity kicks in.

You'd be ramming the car of someone who actually is on your side, Einstein. See satire.

Sorry, I find the 'other side' so truly moronic that they would own such a bumper sticker sans satire. Example, this earth is flat gem I posted earlier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehWv_qlKxSg

Watch it and weep.

Christians are working day and night to undermine Science education. This is the undermining of America. The are the enemy within. Religions are the biggest threat to the continued success of this nation. The U.S. did not get to where it is today because it "prayed". It got here because it once attracted the brightest minds in the world. It got here because it once had the best schools in the world. It got here because it valued knowledge and innovation. This is not true any longer. Undermine your foundation and your house of cards will collapse. Amen.
Christianity is anti-democracy. Christianity is anti-equality.
"Fascism comes to America, wrapped in a flag, carrying a cross."

When did the christian morons start using the word "science" to describe their horseshit?
I wish they would just stop using the word science to attempt legitimize their myths.

"I believe God created me in one day"

"Yeah, looks like He rushed it.”

-Bill Hicks

Let's just hope they don't catch him with 3 hookers, or he'll bankrupt the country. The public shouldn't pay for his sins.

"Can we just sell the Southern states to Mexico and merge with Canada? I’m really beginning to resent parts of my own fucking country for being so goddamned stupid!'

Most of the south is worthless, and besides having the highest per capita on the welfare roles, they lead the country in unwed pregnancies!

I think, we will have to throw in Utah and Wyoming in the deal, along with a certain ranch down in Crawford Texas.....

Speaking of intellectuals and evolution

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzISuf29FBs

WashStateBlue @ 90:

"Can we just sell the Southern states to Mexico and merge with Canada? I’m really beginning to resent parts of my own fucking country for being so goddamned stupid!'

Most of the south is worthless, and besides having the highest per capita on the welfare roles, they lead the country in unwed pregnancies!

I think, we will have to throw in Utah and Wyoming in the deal, along with a certain ranch down in Crawford Texas.....

I think you posted on the wrong thread, but really? You used the words "unwed pregnancy"? What does being married have to do with anything? Automatically if you are a single parent you are on welfare?

As a Christian, I wish religious organizations would stick to matters of faith and leave science to scientists. First of all, it's embarrassing to other Christians that you even consider rejecting science. Embarrassing and nutty. What's being taught in their churches anyway? It seems to me that if these groups have to get large amounts of money to prove that scientists are wrong, they don't have a lot of faith. There isn't nor should there be any conflict between faith and science. The world is round, the sun doesn't revolve around the earth, it's older than 10,000 years and there were no men in the world of dinosaurs. Forget about it and concentrate on doing good works and practicing your faith in the world. Worry about cleaning up your own doorstep. And for heavens sake, ask questions of your religious leaders and demand logical, knowledgeable answers. Think a little. Use your God-given brain. That's what it's for.

I find it interesting that the people who decry evolution and the fact that it is being taught in schools are the very same people who gladly take advantage of the sciences that use evolution as an everyday tool. Evolution is a fact of biology, plain and simple. It is the most important tool used in developing cures and vaccinations against diseases. So I have an idea. Anyone who espouses the belief in a fundamentalist religion or says that evolution isn't true should no longer be allowed any kind of medication. That goes for their children as well. I'm sorry and yes I know it would be cruel to the children who do not have a choice in how they are raised but evolution isn't a democratic process. If you are a fundie who gets cut, no tetanus(sp?) shot for you. Does your child need shots to go to school? Sorry, but if you don't think evolution is real then you and your bloodline shouldn't benefit from the sciences that use it. Did you catch meningitis from being baptised in a stagnant pond thinking that Gawd would protect you? Tough shit buddy. You don't get any medicine. Pretty quickly, the fundies will start to die off or change their attitudes about sciences. Then maybe we can make improvements on the other problems in this country without constant interference from the aggressively ignorant.

WTF- This is a joke.... right... oh wait there was a chick on The View who did not know if the world was flat or not. It is becoming clear to me the I have too much education and need to dumb it down. Good TV jobs and good $$$ seem to go to the dim wits. "Idiocracy" is really based on a true story.....

There are no "other alternatives" to evolution. Evolution is it, scientifically. Anything else is religious nonsense.

Holysmokes @ 100:

WTF- This is a joke.... right... oh wait there was a chick on The View who did not know if the world was flat or not. It is becoming clear to me the I have too much education and need to dumb it down. Good TV jobs and good $$$ seem to go to the dim wits. "Idiocracy" is really based on a true story.....

she was gonna go to the library and find out.

Geeez , u intellectual elitist liberal.

Gosh, I am from the South. No, we are not all idiots. We look at what is going on in this country and are just as disgusted as you are. The only difference is that, unforunately, the South and Southerners are the only people left in this country that are considered to be fair game to be mislabled, misjudged, and joked about. Rather sad, actually.

In reference to #90 (and others), I am from the South and gosh, I am feeling rather unwelcome. In truth, the South isn't mainly worthless. Most of us are educated and caring. I really don't want to become a part of Mexico, if that is alright with you.

Like other parts of the country, we have our problems, but we are working on them. Many of us have viewed what is happening in this country and are just as disgusted by the "almost" criminal nature of this government.

The only difference is that pundits, comedians, etc seem to believe that the South is the truly fair game left for their jokes, misunderstandings, sometimes cruel comments.

It appears as if some on C&Ls feel the same way.

Sad.

I forget who said it, but it bears repeating because in this instance it is doubly true;

"Politicians are a lot like diapers. They're both full of shit and should be changed often."

These morons, idiots, and asswipes really upset me. I don't care if they're "Christians;" just don't preach to me, and just don't be hypocritcal! And, especially, don't pull this crap about creationism. Even people who believe in God can believe that evolution is real; don't deny science!

Vitter thinks that Darwin was against extramarital sex so that is why he wants to fund anti-Darwinism. Vitter is a fool, a hypocrite, and an adulterer. I think that he should be stoned according to the Ten Commandments.

Christianity has promoted violence, hatred and extremism for centuries. This causes me to wonder what those who follow that religion would have been like were they not 'religious'. I can't even begin to guess at this. They would have developed some other reason to band together to kill people who didn't agree with everything they say and do, I suppose.

Barbara Key @ 108:

In reference to #90 (and others), I am from the South and gosh, I am feeling rather unwelcome. In truth, the South isn't mainly worthless. Most of us are educated and caring. I really don't want to become a part of Mexico, if that is alright with you.

Like other parts of the country, we have our problems, but we are working on them. Many of us have viewed what is happening in this country and are just as disgusted by the "almost" criminal nature of this government.

The only difference is that pundits, comedians, etc seem to believe that the South is the truly fair game left for their jokes, misunderstandings, sometimes cruel comments.

It appears as if some on C&Ls feel the same way.

Sad.

I hear you. And you are right. And I even feel sorry.

The problem is, these stories rarely come out of Oregon or Vermont, so... until...

PS You made one small mistake in your post, it's not "almost" criminal nature, it is outrageously criminal nature of this government.

Vitter should have "sort-of" resigned like Larry Craig "sort-of" did................ Graceless Old Pundits....

And the Democratic congresscritters are afraid of these cretins? If I were in the Senate, I would be using the media to make fun of people like Vitter constantly. I would not be able to resist. They make a perfect target. But one that the Dems are too spineless to go after.

I certainly would not be quaking in my boots over these ass-hats.

At this point one has to ask why Vitter even feels the need to pander to these fundies after he's been exposed to be such a degenerate hypocrite.

I guess the fundies are just like the whores Vitter fucks, as long as they are paid they make him happy.

Just like Jesus said "Moneys all green, do anything you need to get all you can!" Or he said something like that. Why else would all these crack pot preachers be begging for it?

cleo @ 114:

Vitter thinks that Darwin was against extramarital sex so that is why he wants to fund anti-Darwinism. Vitter is a fool, a hypocrite, and an adulterer. I think that he should be stoned according to the Ten Commandments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWdJ_dvdGjs

Vanna @ 75:

Gort @ 72:

pissed off patricia @ 10:

I saw a bumper sticker this weekend that said, Evolution is just a theory, like gravity.

Next time you see that car, ram his/her car over off the side of a bridge. See if that theory of gravity kicks in.

You'd be ramming the car of someone who actually is on your side, Einstein. See satire.

I believe you mean Sarcasm.