i am ashamed i havent yet

oh....and who are you going to believe?.......

Can we say "pathological madman" yet?

So why didn't the "questioner" insist Ms. Perino answer the question? why did the press corps accept this non-denial denial? Why aren't they doing their frakkin' jobs?!

mudshark @ 3:

can't we just remove booosh for being insane....there has to be a clause in there somewhere that says we can remove any particular person or persons for reason of mental incapcity......and that would be boosh and chainy.

Actually, there is indeed a clause under which a president may be removed by reason of being "unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office." It's Amendment XXV, Section 4.

And under that section, the Vice President and a majority of the cabinet members have to sign something attesting to the incapacity. Naturally, that ain't gonna happen. However, also under that section, Congress could appoint a body to investigate and determine such incapacity as well.

I wonder if the president define winning from the same dictionary as he define diplomatic solution?

What is winning the Iraq war? and what is diplomatic solution while refusing to talk to the enemy?

I keep having flashbacks to Leiberman asking Patreus if he needs the authority to pursue the terrorists in Iran...

*Drum beat steadily getting louder*

the survival of the dollar (if that is now possible) depends on it remaining the world's reserve currency. the threats to iran have nothing to do with its nuclear capabilities. the iranians are challenging western hegemony. the terrorists are not who you think they are.

Today Russia Government has evacuated all it's staff from Iran's Nuke facilities
Bomb Bomb bomb Iran {:-9

Did you, by chance, also capture the O'Reilly Defense Initiative segment? That was funny stuff.

Remember, those who are seniors now, when we were kids and we were terrified of Russia? We are doing the things in the name of freedom and democracy to all of these countries. Those of us who can clearly see what is happening are unfortunately too few to accomplish anything it seems. We write letters, we protest, we complain to the news that they have a responsibility to report the news rather than be megaphones for this administration and it all falls on deaf ears. People don't want to be bothered, such news is upsetting to them and they don't want to deal with it. If the rest of the world comes down on this country, which incidentally, I would not blame them, many of us will die because the rest were too lazy to pay attention. They will also die for their ignorance. If we can't stop these idiots in control, somebody has to even if it means an attack on the USA. I don't like the idea, but lets face it, looks like that may be the only way anything is done to remove these criminals from office. I would actually gladly give my life to see them pay for all the deaths they caused because of their greed.

Bush is certainly still rolling on the floor of the red room laughing at the idiots in congress for unwittingly allowing him to go to war... again!

Meanwhile Cheney has accidentally gotten himself entangled in the silk drapery, while tickling his extensive nipples with the deliciously hand made Empire style, gold scroll woven Jacquard decorative tape.

A hernia surgeon could make a fortune from operating on all these goal post movers

Jenn @ 24:

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Iran is a problem. We are fighting them in Iraq by proxy and have been fighting them for decades. Ahmadinejad is a psychotic who thinks he is the man to usher in the Mahdi. At all costs.

"In a videotaped meeting with Ayatollah Javadi-Amoli in Tehran, Ahmadinejad discussed candidly a strange, paranormal experience he had while addressing the United Nations in New York last September.

He recounts how he found himself bathed in light throughout the speech. But this wasn't the light directed at the podium by the U.N. and television cameras. It was, he said, a light from heaven."

And you think Bush is insane??????

Jenn, take two Midol and call us in the morning.

Jenn @ 24:

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Iran is a problem. We are fighting them in Iraq by proxy and have been fighting them for decades. Ahmadinejad is a psychotic who thinks he is the man to usher in the Mahdi. At all costs.

"In a videotaped meeting with Ayatollah Javadi-Amoli in Tehran, Ahmadinejad discussed candidly a strange, paranormal experience he had while addressing the United Nations in New York last September.

He recounts how he found himself bathed in light throughout the speech. But this wasn't the light directed at the podium by the U.N. and television cameras. It was, he said, a light from heaven."

And you think Bush is insane??????

I think Bush is insane . . . and Iran is not a threat . . . I believe we're the country that has 150,000 + mercenaries occupying a distant land . . . . I believe that we have created a holocaust for the Iraqi people . . . any sparking in your gaps?

Jenn,

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Hey can I borrow the brain cell when someone's done with it? I wanna reply to Jenn.

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Sy Hersh is seldom wrong, and when he is, it's not by much. While not too long ago I thought that he MIGHT be wrong on plans for an Iranian war, I now believe this: We are going to war with Iran.
Book it.

Thanks straw.

Ooops! I took a bong hit and killed our last braincell. What are we going to do now?

I promise I'll be carefuller this time.

Jenn @ 24:

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Iran is a problem. We are fighting them in Iraq by proxy and have been fighting them for decades. Ahmadinejad is a psychotic who thinks he is the man to usher in the Mahdi. At all costs.

"In a videotaped meeting with Ayatollah Javadi-Amoli in Tehran, Ahmadinejad discussed candidly a strange, paranormal experience he had while addressing the United Nations in New York last September.

He recounts how he found himself bathed in light throughout the speech. But this wasn't the light directed at the podium by the U.N. and television cameras. It was, he said, a light from heaven."

And you think Bush is insane??????

Didn't our Commander in Chimp say the same thing, the only difference being he's taking his queue from Jesus?
Yes he did, look it up.
You can believe what they feed you, but you might want to step back, grab a book on the Zone diet, and use the brain cells God gave you. In Spain Bush told their president "We'll be in Baghad by March", but the media kept filling the trough with lies, and YOU bought it, not me. And now history repeats, only this time most sane people are on to him... but not some.
Alas, the media failed America, but a LOT of us were proven correct... that this administration is a lie, made war on a lie, continue to lie, and will forever lie. In the meantime women and children die, our troops die, our treasure is being wasted at a rate of 500K a fucking minute, and YOU jump on the wagon with these rat-bastards.
Have a nice ride. When you one day get to heaven tell God that you did everything you could to stop the suffering, the dying, the pain, and that you supported Bush and his henchman. The drop will be spectacular!

mystic @ 40:

Ken Burns, Undersecretary of State, is being interviewed by Charlie Rose. He is making the new case for war with Iran. Dispatched to sell the new reason why we have to attack Iran, Burns makes it sound that all the weaponry to the Shia in Iraq is being supplied by Iran. I can't listen to thjis propoganda. When will all the lies and disinformation stop? Never I guess. It hasn't stopped yet. Still, Ahmadinejad convinced America that Iran is not an imminent nuclear threat, and in that sense, he achieved what he set out to do on his recent visit. Bollinger must be fuming at the fool he made of himself at Columbia.

Ken Burns? Huh? The War dude? What? Sorry. I'm tweaked on Zin and chocolate chips while watching The War. Plus I lent the only remaining liberal brain cell to Curt and he friggin' killed it off with a bong hit. Please elaborate.

Jenn @ 24:

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Iran is a problem. We are fighting them in Iraq by proxy and have been fighting them for decades. Ahmadinejad is a psychotic who thinks he is the man to usher in the Mahdi. At all costs.

"In a videotaped meeting with Ayatollah Javadi-Amoli in Tehran, Ahmadinejad discussed candidly a strange, paranormal experience he had while addressing the United Nations in New York last September.

He recounts how he found himself bathed in light throughout the speech. But this wasn't the light directed at the podium by the U.N. and television cameras. It was, he said, a light from heaven."

And you think Bush is insane??????

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well they do say vd will eat your brains if not treated janey, maby bush didnt see the doc in time

"Hersch also asserts the intelligence community is very concerned about the threat of asymmetrical warfare in the aftermath of any sort of strategic strike within Iran, and that the Bush administration has been made aware of those concerns."

Why is "asymmetrical warfare" the terrible thing that the other guys always do, rather than us using our military that costs more than the rest of the world's militaries combined? I want out troops to be safe, but having so much more power and capability than everyone else seems to be the type of thing that inspires the unconventional attacks we're all afraid of.

Slaw @ 45:

"Hersch also asserts the intelligence community is very concerned about the threat of asymmetrical warfare in the aftermath of any sort of strategic strike within Iran, and that the Bush administration has been made aware of those concerns."

Why is "asymmetrical warfare" the terrible thing that the other guys always do, rather than us using our military that costs more than the rest of the world's militaries combined? I want out troops to be safe, but having so much more power and capability than everyone else seems to be the type of thing that inspires the unconventional attacks we're all afraid of.

Everyone knows that a car bomb is used to target civilians while cruise missles target everything.

tyree @ 46:

xoites defends Constitution @ 44:

Thank you, Tyree, for bring the conversation back to a serious discussion. :)

allways glad to help hero!

i got serious one and damned if i didnt wind uo with an ulcer

tyree @ 49:

tyree @ 46:

xoites defends Constitution @ 44:

Thank you, Tyree, for bring the conversation back to a serious discussion. :)

allways glad to help hero!

i got serious one and damned if i didnt wind uo with an ulcer

Stay loose. :)

tyree @ 52:

jesus i got serious once and damned if i didnt wind up with an ulcer!

I just told you to stay loose and there you go correcting a typo! Keep this up you you could have an annurism!

LibertyLover @ 48:

I keep thinking about the comment that Keith made about how Bush and Cheney want very much to bomb Iran and that they don't give a rat's *ss about what it might do to the Republican party...
So what would be the objective? Total world domination? or just money making?

I'm not sure, but I can't get the picture of Mike Meyers' Dr. Evil out of my head when I think of Cheney.

They never gave a rat's ass. The knew the Thugs were greedy enough small minded enough and only into what's in it for them to adopt the PNAC bullshit-their perfect toolbox. And look at all the tools they've exposed!

the nazis have to leave thier graves every few years

im thinking !im thinking!

I look at this as Cheney and Bush and the rest of them scrambling to create the largest impact on the world they can in their remaining time in the Whitehouse. They certainly can't achieve anything at this point with legislation, but they've procured all this power for the commander and chimp to create more war. Are they really all "end-of-days" believers who are trying to bring about their concept of the end-of-days prophecies?
They are scary and not at all fully sane. Scary, scary people with lots of power and warped ambitions.

tyree @ 59:

im thinking !im thinking!

I am sure Strawberry would help you remember if she could, but she lent her brain cell to Curtilingus and he smoked it.

64 Choam Nomsky

...imposing American soverignty on a global scale….

That should be "American Hegemony."

The White House claims to want a diplomatic solution, yet they don't bother speaking with the Iranians. What else is new?

McDuff @ 67:

The White House claims to want a diplomatic solution, yet they don't bother speaking with the Iranians. What else is new?

That's typical Bush logic (or lack therof). It's a sign to me he intends to invade....

Here is a question- Is it possible Bush could order the attack, and exclude the House and Senate from the decision? I have a hunch that might happen...

Here is what might go down- Bush will order an attack on Iran- and leave it for the next president to deal with the aftermath....But if there is retaliation, and an American city is somehow taken out- could this delay the 08' Presidental election?

Choam Nomsky @ 71:

Here is what might go down- Bush will order an attack on Iran- and leave it for the next president to deal with the aftermath....But if there is retaliation, and an American city is somehow taken out- could this delay the 08' Presidental election?

No it won't delay it.

It will cancel it.

Choam Nomsky @ 74:

xoites defends Constitution @ 73:

Choam Nomsky @ 71:

Here is what might go down- Bush will order an attack on Iran- and leave it for the next president to deal with the aftermath....But if there is retaliation, and an American city is somehow taken out- could this delay the 08' Presidental election?

No it won't delay it.

It will cancel it.

But we do have checks and balances to prevent a dictatorship from happening..

We do?

I think you mean, "We did."

How can Perino lie with such fervor?! How can she?!

McDuff @ 76:

LibertyLover @ 48:

I keep thinking about the comment that Keith made about how Bush and Cheney want very much to bomb Iran and that they don't give a rat's *ss about what it might do to the Republican party...
So what would be the objective? Total world domination? or just money making?

I'm not sure, but I can't get the picture of Mike Meyers' Dr. Evil out of my head when I think of Cheney.

Please don't insult Dr. Evil.

You make an excellent point.

LibertyLover @ 78:

Choam Nomsky @ 71:

Here is what might go down- Bush will order an attack on Iran- and leave it for the next president to deal with the aftermath....But if there is retaliation, and an American city is somehow taken out- could this delay the 08' Presidental election?

Like Naomi Klein says: The Shock Doctrine?

I forget the exact quote but someone in the Administration said, (pardon the paraphrase)"We don't have to face reality, we define reality now."

sully18 @ 82:

xoites defends Constitution @ 73:

Choam Nomsky @ 71:

Here is what might go down- Bush will order an attack on Iran- and leave it for the next president to deal with the aftermath....But if there is retaliation, and an American city is somehow taken out- could this delay the 08' Presidental election?

No it won't delay it.

It will cancel it.

Now that would bring about what I suggest is a good idea--20 million Americans in Washington with 15 million Potra-lets because we`ll bee there till Bush and Cheney get their just due-a trial for treason.

Or possibly 20 million Americans being loaded into frieght cars at Union Station to be shipped off to the many detention centers already in place.

McDuff @ 84:

LibertyLover @ 80:

xoites defends Constitution @ 79:

McDuff @ 76:

You make an excellent point.

C'mon... my apologies to Dr. Evil, but isn't Bush mini me?

Touché.

Or, as someone once said, "Touchy, touchy!"

xoites defends Constitution @ 85:

McDuff @ 84:

LibertyLover @ 80:

xoites defends Constitution @ 79:

C'mon... my apologies to Dr. Evil, but isn't Bush mini me?

Touché.

Or, as someone once said, "Touchy, touchy!"

Or as ZZ top would say: tush

sully18 @ 88:

They can`t lock up 20 million of us.They don`t have that many hand wires or whatever those things are.And f

Nope, people will be sheeple, like always...

xoites defends Constitution @ 83:

sully18 @ 82:

xoites defends Constitution @ 73:

Choam Nomsky @ 71:

No it won't delay it.

It will cancel it.

Now that would bring about what I suggest is a good idea--20 million Americans in Washington with 15 million Potra-lets because we`ll bee there till Bush and Cheney get their just due-a trial for treason.

Or possibly 20 million Americans being loaded into frieght cars at Union Station to be shipped off to the many detention centers already in place.

I'll bet anything they'll call these detention camps "Freedom Camps"

Is it me, or is the overall quality of Bush regime Press Secretaries (never a particularly high quality lot to begin with, I'll grant you) steadily declining? I mean, they've gone from Ari Fleischer to Simple Scotty to Tony Blow and now.......the Bush regime is being defended by a burned out Valley Girl. Seriously, I keep expecting her to,at any moment to go "Well, like, DUH!". Really fucking pathetic. If there were any justice left in the world, Dana Peroxide would be fetching Helen Thomas' coffee.

LibertyLover @ 89:

sully18 @ 88:

They can`t lock up 20 million of us.They don`t have that many hand wires or whatever those things are.And f

Nope, people will be sheeple, like always...

I have encountered many right wingers who think dissent is somehow a form of terrorism- If Bush or his cronies started rounding up citizens, via a 'Freedom police', and claimed it was being done 'to protect freedom', I guarentee you a good chuck of the population would buy into his Orwellian doublespeak....

Choam Nomsky @ 95:

LibertyLover @ 89:

sully18 @ 88:

They can`t lock up 20 million of us.They don`t have that many hand wires or whatever those things are.And f

Nope, people will be sheeple, like always...

I have encountered many right wingers who think dissent is somehow a form of terrorism- If Bush or his cronies started rounding up citizens, via a 'Freedom police', and claimed it was being done 'to protect freedom', I guarentee you a good chuck of the population would buy into his Orwellian doublespeak....

Face it, folks. A large chunk of the American populace doesn't deserve this country. My fear is that we're destined to end up on the losing side in the next World War, just like NAZI Germany. I really am afraid that your average American won't come to his senses until our cities are bombed like Dresden.

One point of discussion we do not hear much about is what happens when Bush does transgress Iran's frontier. Iraq was a cakewalk because they had been softened up by years of sanctions and the "No fly Zone" that allowed the US to take out radar and any potential threats prior to the invasion. Iraq had no air force to speak of.

Iran is a little different, they are technologically advanced and produce their own fighter planes, missiles, and allegedly have a high speed torpedo. They have 70 million people compared to Iraq's 20 million and have a large and well trained military. They have been surrounded by aggressor states for years and would likely be much better prepared than Iraq was for conflict.

Has anyone thought about what might happen to the Persian Gulf and the Straits of Hormuz if the US attacks Iran? Can the same government that brought you Katrina protect the daily flow of oil and munitions that travel through a narrow shallow gauntlet along Iran's southern coast? What would happen to the price of oil if ships refused to enter the gulf for fear of being sunk?

What about a Shia backlash inside of Iraq? What about US bases throughout the Middle East that are in range of Iranian missiles? What about Russia? Would they sit idly by while the US attacks a neighboring country?

Welcome to Pandora's box. Once you open it you will never get the contents back inside. No one knows what will happen down the road. Surely not the "Flowers at our feet" crowd.

xoites defends Constitution @ 94:

LibertyLover @ 86:

xoites defends Constitution @ 83:

sully18 @ 82:

Or possibly 20 million Americans being loaded into frieght cars at Union Station to be shipped off to the many detention centers already in place.

How would they get to Washington? People were afraid to fly after 9/11.

From Los Angeles you get on Interstate 15 North to Las Vegas then take Interstate 515 South into Arizona and hop on Interstate 40 east to Virginia where you take Interstate 81 North to Interstate 66 East which brings you into DC on Constitution Avenue. Head east 8 blocks and park in the Park and Chant.

How should I plan to get around the oh so convienient checkpoints for my PAPERS?

Shivas @ 99:

One point of discussion we do not hear much about is what happens when Bush does transgress Iran's frontier. Iraq was a cakewalk because they had been softened up by years of sanctions and the "No fly Zone" that allowed the US to take out radar and any potential threats prior to the invasion. Iraq had no air force to speak of.

Iran is a little different, they are technologically advanced and produce their own fighter planes, missiles, and allegedly have a high speed torpedo. They have 70 million people compared to Iraq's 20 million and have a large and well trained military. They have been surrounded by aggressor states for years and would likely be much better prepared than Iraq was for conflict.

Has anyone thought about what might happen to the Persian Gulf and the Straits of Hormuz if the US attacks Iran? Can the same government that brought you Katrina protect the daily flow of oil and munitions that travel through a narrow shallow gauntlet along Iran's southern coast? What would happen to the price of oil if ships refused to enter the gulf for fear of being sunk?

What about a Shia backlash inside of Iraq? What about US bases throughout the Middle East that are in range of Iranian missiles? What about Russia? Would they sit idly by while the US attacks a neighboring country?

Welcome to Pandora's box. Once you open it you will never get the contents back inside. No one knows what will happen down the road. Surely not the "Flowers at our feet" crowd.

Heck, we can't contain a city the size of Baghdad, how are we gonna fight 70 million people with an axe to grind?

And yes, I believe Scott Ritter has detailed what will happen in his last book: Target Iran and it ain't pretty.

sully18 @ 102:

Choam Nomsky @ 95:

LibertyLover @ 89:

sully18 @ 88:

Nope, people will be sheeple, like always...

I have encountered many right wingers who think dissent is somehow a form of terrorism- If Bush or his cronies started rounding up citizens, via a 'Freedom police', and claimed it was being done 'to protect freedom', I guarentee you a good chuck of the population would buy into his Orwellian doublespeak....

Can you imagine the logistics of this operation,especially if it remained peaceful.How could that be considered terrorism?Using Ghandi`s principles this type of civil disobedience could work.And if not you could tell my children I was a brave man.

I'll come and stand with you, my friend, or maybe I'll head for the border... if people from Mexico can get in... then I can get out. Right?

sully18 @ 102:

Choam Nomsky @ 95:

LibertyLover @ 89:

sully18 @ 88:

Nope, people will be sheeple, like always...

I have encountered many right wingers who think dissent is somehow a form of terrorism- If Bush or his cronies started rounding up citizens, via a 'Freedom police', and claimed it was being done 'to protect freedom', I guarentee you a good chuck of the population would buy into his Orwellian doublespeak....

Can you imagine the logistics of this operation,especially if it remained peaceful.How could that be considered terrorism?Using Ghandi`s principles this type of civil disobedience could work.And if not you could tell my children I was a brave man.

My personal opinion of the perfect non violent protest would be a mass of people all dressed in the same colored clothes (black or white to also be considered) and to walk very slowly in dead silence and fill up the Mall and surround the Capital and White House.

Thanks xoites.Now that I have the porta-let thing solved I can get some rest as I have a physical therapy appt. tomorrow at 8 and it`s 1:30 See you all tomorrow after I get my new tin foil baseball cap.

LibertyLover @ 108:

xoites defends Constitution @ 107:

sully18 @ 102:

Choam Nomsky @ 95:

Can you imagine the logistics of this operation,especially if it remained peaceful.How could that be considered terrorism?Using Ghandi`s principles this type of civil disobedience could work.And if not you could tell my children I was a brave man.

My personal opinion of the perfect non violent protest would be a mass of people all dressed in the same colored clothes (black or white to also be considered) and to walk very slowly in dead silence and fill up the Mall and surround the Capital and White House.

That would be an amazing feat. and scary too. Ding dong. It ain't avon calling.
Can we wear the Guy Fawkes masks, too?

Intimidating to be sure and NO BORING SPEECHES!

I believe that Hersh has kept Bush from attacking Iran sooner. That seems an extravagant thing to say, but I really believe this. His exposure of the propaganda leading up to "surgical bombings" may keep Bush from pulling this latest caper.
Even Bush doesn't want to look stupid.
Hersh is all over the German press with this analysis, too. He's very influential.

Hattie @ 113:

I believe that Hersh has kept Bush from attacking Iran sooner. That seems an extravagant thing to say, but I really believe this. His exposure of the propaganda leading up to "surgical bombings" may keep Bush from pulling this latest caper.
Even Bush doesn't want to look stupid.
Hersh is all over the German press with this analysis, too. He's very influential.

I think he st his timetable back but Bush is determined and rather, well, short sighted.

One last thing.Don`t forget your American flag lapel pin.If there`s ever any trouble they let the folks wiyh the lapel pins go,unless the pin is pinned toan Impeach Bush/Cheney tee shirt.
Just think about this and talk to your friends about it.It could happen.I`ve got to get to bed.Peace.

Oh the anguish of the republicans when they realize that the only way they can keep their party from dying is to impeach Bush and Cheney. Making Nancy Pelosi the defacto president of the United States. Better get busy republicans. Your time is running out.

Dana Perino with that soft fuzzy lens putting on her big girl panties
and trying to maintain her cool, calm and medicated lady-like composure
while telling traitor Hersh a thing or three. Imagine trying to get the makeup
to match the soft focus? Unbelievable!

xoites defends Constitution @ 114:

LibertyLover @ 112:

On the other hand, worst case scenario: we might end like Burmese Monks.

I could think of worse things. We could end up like surviving German citizens of WWII: guilt ridden.

Good point.

Hattie @ 113:

I believe that Hersh has kept Bush from attacking Iran sooner. That seems an extravagant thing to say, but I really believe this. His exposure of the propaganda leading up to "surgical bombings" may keep Bush from pulling this latest caper.
Even Bush doesn't want to look stupid.
Hersh is all over the German press with this analysis, too. He's very influential.

I agree with you and xoites... but our President Reptilian Brain wants what he wants and he wants it NOW!

Every idiot Democrat who voted for the Lieberman/Kyle resolution should be kicked out and put on the street. What a short-sighted collection of complete, gutless cretins. they have utterly betrayed their trust. What complete pieces of shit.

xoites defends Constitution @ 94:

LibertyLover @ 86:

xoites defends Constitution @ 83:

sully18 @ 82:

Or possibly 20 million Americans being loaded into frieght cars at Union Station to be shipped off to the many detention centers already in place.

How would they get to Washington? People were afraid to fly after 9/11.

From Los Angeles you get on Interstate 15 North to Las Vegas then take Interstate 515 South into Arizona and hop on Interstate 40 east to Virginia where you take Interstate 81 North to Interstate 66 East which brings you into DC on Constitution Avenue. Head east 8 blocks and park in the Park and Chant.

Really want to miss Barstow that badly, eh?

Or, as we say hereabouts:
"Barstow...EWW!!"

Hersh made such a great point: You'll be doing diplomacy when you start talking to the Iranians and this admin is not talking.

These people, Dana Perrino included, have no soul or conscious. They just get up there and repeatedly lie to the press corps, and they do it with such a straight face. This is some pretty scary stuff. It's also all the more reason Bush/Cheney should have been impeached long ago. It was obvious they were both dangerous, and if left in power, nothing was going to stop them.

Party in Iran... War is fun when you know your not going to die.

Are you guys down there fucking crazy? You have this kid...Dana Perino...talking like she's an expert on Islam, Middle-East culture/issues. Christ, she probably doesn't know what's going on in her own home town.....ok, State...but that's it.
You actually trust these people for wisdom and direction in matters that could put the world at war and compromise its safety? My Oh My get the headgear out.

Podhoeretz (NY POST), Cagan, Wolfwitz, Perle....these Heebs hate Arabs. This isn't a revelation. And if you think this is anti-semetic...it's not. There are so many Jewish learned people (Amy Goodman, Sy Hersh) who are criticizing the move. But these people are Arab-haters......I liken them to the boys from the southern states who still don't like the coloured boy.

What a crock of Bullshit! Yeah sure...we'll do the surgical strikes and leave. That would be like severing the wasp nest and thinking it's over once it hits the ground.
The facts are;
1- this is what happened in Iraq and you have to think, any fallout is not only expected but welcomed by Bush so they can anhiliate that country.
2- There are so many Iranian immigrants here in N America who can bring a war to the USA overnight on mere retaliation fot lost family members.

Finally and this is very important.......If you want to see blood & gore coming into your living rooms each night, this will be the one. Get use to it. The slaughter of kids who absolutely no say in this (and don't blame it on their President).
This hearless, criminal slaughter will be a real test to each American's compassion and those around the world. Hmmmm. ......around the world. Maybe this would be enough for the rest of the world (like us in Canada) to say, enough's enough George.
You are already hearing rumblings of this nature from Britian, France, Germany & Russia.
I think that's enough for the people of USA to tell this little Napoleon to take Donald Trumps advice and just "GO FISHING" or something...but get lost.

What's with the Right-Wing and their obsession with "Trannies"? Holy Marilyn Manson...does Cagan look like Dave Gest or Manson or what. And then there's Ms. Black Dress.

Well as soon as DC Dana opens her mouth you know whatever she says is wrong.

I'll betcha boosh has a problem with translators.......could you imagine trying to translate what the preznit says?..it's bad enough in english.

kryptman40k @ 90:

He never answers why he thinks they would bomb iran though......
Not the reason they give, or the drum beat bullshit.......but why they really really think it's a good idea.

Of course, it's mostly to do with oil and trying to make up for the harm they've done by in.ading Iraq and making Iran stronger.

Its the same mentality they had to go into Iraq.......finish a job they didn't finish before. Now it's finish a job they fucked up and they have to try to "fix".

Nevermind that Syria/Saudi Arabia imports 45 percent of the "terrorists" that attack us in Iraq and we send cheney over there to shake their hands. Nevermind that we created most of the insurgency when we disbanded the military and never gave them drinking water.

If we attack Iran, Bush will no doubt claim the attack is needed to 'protect freedom'. Already right wing bloggers are spewing the old propaganda they used to justify the invasion of iraq, by saying 'we need to bring freedom to the Iraqi...whoops, i mean the Iranian people..