H&C: Don't Let Stephanie Miller Speak, She Might Make Sense!
By Nicole Belle Monday Oct 01, 2007 7:35pm
Hannity & Colmes invited talk radio hosts Melanie Morgan (is it me, or is she looking MORE like Stiffler's mom every day?) and Stephanie Miller for their takes on the Rush Limbaugh brouhaha.
Watch Melanie completely miss the forest for the trees (truth teller? I'm surprised lightning didn't strike her right then and there) and go on uninterrupted while Sean barely gives Stephanie a minute to rebut and then comes the Fox bumper music. Major points to Stephanie for getting in "anal cyst" before they cut her off.
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Anytime a Liberal or Democrat comes on these shows, he or she should with the following line: Am I going to be talked over or prematurely cut off during this segment?
That's it! Start that way !!!
Chubby McButtCyst ... meet your foil!
Hey, I was first! :)
By the way, it should have been:
...he or she should COMMENCE THE SEGMENT with the following line:
She did just about as good a job as I have ever seen out of a liberal on Insanity and Colmes. Not that liberals don't do well at public speaking... when they are allowed to speak! I loved the "I'm sorry was that a question? It sounded like a run-on talking point". Beeeeaauuuuutiful!
Bluestater @ 1:
That would be nice, but Fox would probably edit it out. It's futile for Liberals, Progressives or anyone who isn't a pathological right wing liar to go on the network. Don't feed the beast!
Bluestater @ 3:
In your haste to be first, hmmm?
I think she did well(S Miller).......and morgan looks like Florence Henderson...in the Brady Bunch......only worse.
Snowball @ 5:
True, but then it ends up on YouTube and Fox ends up with MORE egg on their face to clean up. :)
[Deleted. I'm done with your snotty bits about 'liberals.' They're flame bait and basically untrue. If you cannot conduct yourself civilly, you will be shown the door-Sitemonitor]
Before I watch, remind me, is she the BOTOX-lip nightmare?
wiping the tears away from her eyes...."Lush a Truth teller?"........ohhhhh my head is spinning...........I think that one calls for some Anejo....
Fox's FF assault on the evil Media Matters as we type.
methinks the ladies doth protest too much!
Edwin @ 10:
caution...you may want to sedate yourself first......me...I'm having a shot of Tequila
Why do any of these people give Melanie Morgan a forum to spout her phony nonsense and gibberish? The best was the night she was on PBS on The News Hour and her fake eyelash was hanging down. She was obnoxious and a couple days later, PBS to its credit, said she would NEVER be back on.
More networks should do this to her--but hey, we're talking Fox. The network of the 29 percenters.
lol, anal cyst, that's a new one for me:)
its a shame Miller didn't throw back the original Limbaugh Senator Betray-us quote when asked about the move-on ad.
I would love to see Stephanie Miller get to debate with Hannity in a non Hannity controlled environment, she would tear him and his GOP talking point rhetoric to shreds.
Dear site-monitor.
[Deleted. Not true and rude] I understand that a blog is usually reserved for like-minded people. But as a former liberal turned conservative, I'm tired of being labeled a neocon, war-monger, homo-phob, bigot. At some point you get tired of it and want to fight back. The outrageous stuff I read on this and other liberal blogs appears to me to be anti-American and against most of the traditions and history that I think are great about this country.
[Well, maybe you need to find a like-minded blog, if learning manners and following the rules here is beyond your ken-Sitemonitor]
Colmes is a disgrace.
He's "trying to figure out what Limbaugh" is saying??? GROW A F-ING PAIR, COLMES.
Alan Colmes=A Tool's Tool
I am sorry, but that is the dumbest show.
And I must inject....Stifflers mom was actually hot...by the time i got drunk enough to boink Melanie Morgan I'd be too drunk to get it up
George Soros does not fund media matters.
That "Anti-America Left"? is she fucking kidding us? I guess she is if she says Rush is a Truth Teller! I'm sorry but who is more unAmerican then the Republicans, the party who hates our constitution, they only support our troops as long as our troops support them. Who was it who sent them to fight in a war based on lies without the correct number of soldiers to keep the peace without the proper body armor or up-armored vehicles? Without a real plan? Without an exit strategy? the only thing the Asshole Republicans sent our soldiers to Iraq WITH is mercenaries...that's it, no real back up, just murderers who can blame or frame a REAL American soldier for their crimes.
Oh how much I hate the Republicans who Hate America!!!
BigKAD @ 18:
..I don't believe you were a liberal..........no way no how..
Ron @ 23:
Don't expect a Repug to have ANY facts!
Melanie Morgan was against saying that Rush called our soldiers "phonies" before she was for calling our soldiers a bunch of "phonies".
Is that bitch taking Rush's crack, too?
She denied that Rush called our soldiers "phonies", then she went on and on calling our soldiers "phonies".
Rush Limbaugh is a living breathing anal cyst.
Edwin @ 10:
Yes, Melanie is the BOTOX cow. Stephanie is great. She did try not to laugh. I'm not sure I could have done that. I mean, did you hear them?
Dahgrostab'ph-r-i @ 26:
No, they just keep repeating the same lies.
Dahgrostab'ph-r-i @ 24:
yep...Blackwater got all the money that should of been used to better eqiup the troops.......what is it now.....as of june they had recieved 750 mill.....and they just got a new contract for more than the last one.....
BigKAD @ 18:
Ron @ 23:
George Soros funds everything "un-American". He rules the world from a secret cave, just like Osama bin Laden. I am one of his zombie minions.
Assbag is "...one of the most effective communicators of our generation?" What an empty, hyperbolic statement. Someone who punches you in the face is communicating rather effectively.
"Stifler's mom..." i laughed out loud when i saw her! very funny observation!
Edwin @ 33:
Zombie minion here too! I bet we have a whole swam of zombies here before long!!! Maybe their already here...ha ha ha ha!
Hey, BigKAD (you sure your handle shouldn't be BigCAD?):
[deleted--we're deleted BigKAD because he is unable to post civilly. Don't you start down that path too.]
Conservatism is a rotting, stinking husk of an ideology. It's hostile to all things good and decent and fair and salutary. That's why it's unfit to govern. That should be obvious, but apparently it isn't to you and your myopic ilk.
All the great things about this nation flowed from the enlightened thinking of progressive liberalism -- from the Founding Fathers on down.
Could anyone be more brainwashed than the followers of Rush Limbaugh? They hear him say something one day, and he denies it the next. Not only does he deny it, but he claims that anyone who heard it correctly the first time is out to get him.
Dahgrostab'ph-r-i @ 36:
If I become one of the zombie minions, would he fund me? I really could use it.
D.G. Bowman @ 37:
Such a great and true observation! clap clap clap clap clap clap clap!!!
Dahgrostab'ph-r-i @ 36:
count me in...but I'm lost in the zommmbie wooooods......just about as evil as a zombie can be.
Funny how Shamitty and O'Really? constantly berate Media Matters as a "far left smear site" but neither one would dare host a debate that included MM, knowing how badly their bullshittery would be exposed.
Stephanie Miller rocks!l
mudshark @ 13:
Mud, did the tequila work? All I have is mezcal. It's in the same family so if the tequila worked the mezcal should do the trick.
If I become one of the zombie minions, would he fund me? I really could use it.
That's the great thing about being a zombie...all you need is brains!!!(ba da da dada) (sorry John)
Media Matters is completely upfront about who they are and what they do.
From the "About Us" section at MM:
"Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media."
These radical right-wing nut jobs like to pretend there is something sinister and misleading about MM,but the truth is,they simply document everything these people say.
They apparently don't like that fact.
I bet you dollars to donuts that when all those right wing talking heads met with Bush,a big priority was figuring out how to go after MM and other top Liberal sites.
Ron @ 30:
Stephanie hit the nail on the head when she said to Fred Flintstone: "I'm sorry Sean, was that a question or just a run on talking point?" Interesting how these assholes go on and on about Soros (which ain't even true) while the likes of Murdock, Sun Moon and Scaithe spend MILLIONS or BILLIONS!!! funding dickheads like Sean Hannity to peddle their propaganda to the common yokel.
mudshark @ 25:
mudshark with all due respect, you don't know anything about me. I was a liberal once, just not of the reactionary kind that is prevalent today. I always believed in a social safety net and I believed that liberals were for the down-trodden and for the oppressed. I won't go into all my reasons for a conversion but a big part of it was getting past the worthless public education I received and I started reading history, especially our military struggles. It didn't take long to see the greatness of America in those pages, unfortunately, I came of age just after the Viet Nam war where I saw those on the left spitting on our soldiers.
The bottom line is that I never thought I would see the day when America liberating 50 million people would be ignored by those on the left. This is not the Harry Truman, Scoop Jackson, John Kennedy Democratic party anymore. In the words of John Kennedy:
"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and success of liberty."
I never saw Melanie Morgan before.
She looks like the actress from "Best in Show", and some other Christopher Guest movies.
Captain Kangaroo @ 43:
Hey Cap'n...howzit goin.....yeah the catcus juice worked...hehehe....I'm smilin..but you gotta watch that mezcal........whooooooooooo doooooogie....that stuff is mean.
A wee bit OT, but not too much-- If someone like Bill O. came to your house, and said that stuff he says on TV, wouldn't you think he was insane? I would contact one of his family members to alert them to his condition. That might (most probably) go for many on FOX. I'm not joking at all; think about in your living room, with invited guests present.
yeah jeff @ 35:
BigKAD @ 47:
Yeah. Liberal just like David Horowitz. Yutz.
hadenuf @ 48:
Jennifer Coolidge
Much funnier!
hadenuf @ 48:
As the post says: Stiffler's mom.
Edwin @ 50:
Dude! Have you ever talked to your garden variety Republican? they are all like that...I would notify their families of their conditions but most of their families are either just like them or just like us and can't get them to admit they have a problem! First step to recovery you know!!!
Ron @ 39:
No doubt. Anything to destroy America and support fledgeling terra-iss loving organizations. Just ask someone over at FOX, if you don't believe me.
That's an insult to Stiffler's mom.
I didn't realize Stephanie Miller was so cute. She is smokin hot. Wow.
but a big part of it was getting past the worthless public education
You still have a long way to go on the education bit.
mrogi @ 58:
We got the looks AND the brains on our side...
Dahgrostab'ph-r-i @ 55:
Well, no I haven't. I am Canadian and have lived in Korea since before the Bush administration. I grew up in Niagara Falls, Ontario, and used too ski, shop and dine out in NY State, but that was back in the 70's & 80's. People seemed normal to me. I have been across New England several times, en route to Eastern Canada, but again normal. I take it things have changed, quite a bit, in the last 10~15 years.
One of the great tragedies of our times, that Melanie Morgans parents weren't sterile.
BigKAD @ 47:
ok ...your a certainly within your rights....but coming here and being offensive and insulting will certainly make you look bad.JFK wanted the us out of Viet Nam very early....Tell me why you think that the current bunch of Repubs are so much better than us Dems......
BigKAD @ 47:
1. You were never a Liberal
2. No one ever spit on American soldiers, it's a lie. If it did, only that person who did it is responsible, not a political ideology or entire movement. So you claim to have come of age right after the Vietnam war and saw leftists spitting on soldiers. Exactly at what age did you abandon your so-called Liberal leanings and read all these history books? I detect a gapping logical flaw in your claim to have been a Liberal.
3. You call causing 4 million refugees a liberation? The only thing Iraqis have been liberated from is their lives.
4. Your arguments are so weak that you have to lie about having been a Liberal to try and bolster your point. We see that little game from you trolls all the time, we're not buying it.
5. If you don't like the points of views expressed by C&L, you can go to a right wing blog, they won't let us post there. At least you get to say what you like here as long as you don't flame bait. You seem to have a problem with that.
The sound you hear is JFK and the Founding Fathers spinning in their graves over what the Dim Son and his criminal administration are doing to this country in the name of "liberty".
anti American?????....me thinks you've drank too much of the koolaid.....
I don't really know what bigKad said, but I do believe there are conservatives that aren't neo-cons. So does everyone. But to support THIS GOP tars you with the neo-con brush. The outrageous things they say, support, and stand behind, and do, and their track record of hypocsrisy speaks for itself. Before you complain to folks here, work to change the image of your party. Right now it stinks. A vote for them is to vote neo-con.
Ok I did the shot of mescal.
“Rush Limbaugh is a truth teller”? “One of the most effective communicators of our generation”? I think she was masturbating while she was saying it but I am not sure. It looked like Steph was giggling while this “person” Morgan was talking.
Thank god for mezcal.
What happened to Morgan’s lips anyway?
Ah.. ha... I'm still laughing at that fat-ass Hannity.
"You mean ol' Liberals are taking Rush out of context. Just listen to the edited/cut transcript and you will see that Rush was really saying he wants to give each solder a puppy! Only mean ol' liberals would pick on poor little Rushie! Mean liberals like Obama who said all soldiers like to kill puppies and Murtha who said he would help them kill the puppies and Hillary who said that she would eat puppies (you would hear it if you listen to them in the limited right context like I do!). I never take ANYTHING out of context and twist it! LEAVE RUSHIE ALONE!!! HE'S A HUMAN BEING!!!"
And what's with Melanie Moron? She looks like she's been drinking anal-cyst juice again. I guess it would explain a lot!
Oh, I can’t watch any more. Hannity is too nuts. ( I did like the anal cyst point though)
I wonder how these bizarro people--Sean Ins-Hannity and Melanie Morgan (has she cornered the market on botox and collagen injections?)--sleep at night. I feel sorry for their families and whatever 'friends' they might claim to have.
TimV @ 70:
Actually, I think it is just too much Botox.
Oops! bigKad said: "The bottom line is that I never thought I would see the day when America liberating 50 million people would be ignored by those on the left. "
If that's your idea of LIBERATION, your are a bloodsucking cur after all. I retract my niceties above @67. What you see as "liberation" of a state, I see as an illegal occupation of a foreign nation, whose interests have not even been considered, in the rush to steal their oil, and to build army bases to keep them oppressed for generations to come. Sorry I spoke, above, I'm sure.
BigKAD @ 18:
Former liberal turned conservative my ass. Just be honest and then go away.
Edwin @ 67:
I'm all for completely dropping the neo-con label. It's misleading. Have you actually seen any other Conservatives other than Ron Paul and Chuck Hagel really resist the Bush regime and its agenda? No, they've been enabling it all along and the so-called moderates like John McCain and Arlen Specter have been the worst enablers of them all. Calling people neo-cons only obfuscates the fact that Conservative ideology is inherently corrupt to its very roots. Was it neo-cons that impeached Clinton for a blow job or supported Hitler before Pearl Harbor? No, just garden variety Conservatives. It's not neo anything, it's Conservatism plain and simple that's the problem.
ashton @ 73:
But does Botox cause that kind of brain damage? I'm pretty sure my initial diagnosis at least describes the symptom of stupidity and insanity.
I watched until Hannity came on and then my brain started to bleed and the survival instinct took over.
mudshark @ 7:
Morgan looks like she was on a bender.
Edwin @ 74:
Oh yeah, liberating them from running water, electricity, not being blown-up, not living in fear of sectarian violence, not being displaced and best of all, not being occupied. Now that is what I call liberation, freedom at its finest.
Now, since the population of Iraq was 28 million prior to the fleeing refugees, I would just love to hear about the other 22 million people that you included in this liberation. Clearly, you have liberated yourself of facts and that should not be ignored.
No one is ignoring anything. Others just seem to have a much better grip on reality.
Captain Kangaroo @ 71:
Yeah, me too. I'm a stickler for details (sometimes). Kind of classic, like Wide Stance. Anal Cyst. Man on Dog. Writes itself.
AbbeyHoffmansGhost @ 78:
I hear you. I just turned down the volume and waited until they showed that goddess of a woman Stephanie Miller again. Trust me... she helps ease the pain.
bigKad...when did this epiphany happen...was it during the time period when Nixon resigned in disgrace along with Agnew who got busted for influence peddling and accepting money.Or was it during the Carter admin..when he didn't do anything to get back the hostages from Tehran(not true....helicopters crashed in the desert).Or was it during the Reagan admin ...and Iran Contra..or maybe you Hate Bill Clinton for lying about a blow job.Show me one married man who gets busted for that and not lie.(not condoning it simply making a point)...it would appear that since your epiphany...your party has been nothing but corrupt.
AbbeyHoffmansGhost @ 75:
Honesty, my dear, is rarely an attribute of conservatives.
melanie morgan is nothing more than a bush-apologist and a total c*nt. I understand she didn't even finish high school. Guess that basically gives her a PhD in right wing circles, though.
Stephanie Miller is HOT!
Honesty, my dear, is rarely an attribute of conservatives.
Ever notice that the self-proclaimed "conservatives" turn every topic into being all about them. Egoist seems to be a far better term.
Why is it liberals are witty and adroit, and fun to read, while conservatives use the usual rants like, "you pathetic jerk," often misspelled? Even though the news is grisly, I smile reading comments at C&L. Melanie's lips aren't grisly, just tragic. And, I wonder how Rush likes everyone on the planet knowing about his anal cyst problem? I'll be thinking about that all day, like a bad tune that gets stuck in your head.
Goddamn...Stephanie Miller is ONE HOT MAMA!
mudshark @ 83:
lets go back to the helicopter crash....we all know that Reagan cut a deal to get the hostages back........I find it very odd that all those helicopters went down at the same time.....what was it? 3 out of 5...or 6.....and the way your party behaves...I wouldn't put it past them.If they would of succeded.......Reagan would never have been elected.......I'm going to look for info on the crash....
Radio melanie
Oh the elderly with the tv fireplaces
wrapped 24 hour bluetastic suspense
wheres the humanity
oh wheres the humanity
the hannity anal cyst
no one knows the fear
or the worker
tired from the 13 hour shift
thrown away safety and precaution
gripping a miller beer
thinking of his burned palms
and rubber coated skin
the hannity anal cyst
gulps spasmodically
at the fear
or the cop
off his shift
balancing his dread
with cruel logics pose
the enemy always
on the perimeter
like the spider that sits
six feet away from you
on average right now
feels the fear
the hannity anal cyst
foxfear focksfear f@#$fear
Hannity:
Bwaahhaaahhaaaa!!
What a friggin' moron. Also loved the part where it took a few seconds for Hannity to understand the talking points dig against him.
Anyone else love the part where Melanie "I'm going to be forced to wear a burka!" Morgan calls MoveOn's anti-war ads far-left and anti-American?
Apparently 70% of the country is far-left and anti-American for being anti-war.
Radio melanie
Oh the elderly with the tv fireplaces
wrapped 24 hour bluetastic suspense
wheres the humanity
oh wheres the humanity
the hannity anal cyst
no one knows the fear
or the worker
tired from the 13 hour shift
thrown away safety and precaution
gripping a miller beer
thinking of his burned palms
and rubber coated skin
the hannity anal cyst
gulps spasmodically
at the fear
or the cop
off his shift
balancing his dread
with cruel logics pose
the enemy always
on the perimeter
like the spider that sits
six feet away from you
on average right now
feels the fear
the hannity anal cyst
foxfear focksfear f***fear
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/april/25/newsid_2503000... rescue attempt....1980
Looks like someone got outed and won't be back to answer any questions.
Hannity has taken putting words into others peoples mouths to an art form.
I cannot bellieve how the Right has sprinted to the defense of this jerk. Limbaugh is a junkie. A junkie is a junkie until he commits himself to recovery. This ass never commited himself to recovery, as evidenced by his continued arrogance and dishonesty. What evidence is there of Rush attempting any of the following?
Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
Rush admit he was wrong? Are you kidding?
Rush apologize? I think Michael J Fox gave up on that one.
And yet all these right wingers are jumping to his defense. The man is a JUNKIE. And they lose all credibility by defending him.
Isn't it amazing how the right wing nut jobs defend each other to the death no matter how heinous the offense. The don't give a rats butt that Limbaugh's comments were not only highly offensive to any number of soldiers, but divisive. They're so despicable.
Snowball @ 95:
cut and run?...or just a reality check.
mudshark @ 89:
Your worthless Nixon and Reagan references [Deleted. Not allowed-Sitemonitor] One of the differences between me any you, I'm not beholden to a politician or even a political party. My core beliefs sustain me and a big part of them is conservatism. The closest political party I can gravitate to is Republicans, albeit they are not perfect and in many areas not conservative enough for me. I believe in the American people and the greatness of our capitalist system. I believe in the greatness of our military and see that they have been a force for good in this world. Why don't I ever hear liberals speak of these things? It's because they can't understand the simple fact that America does not need to be perfect to be great. You only see the bad, I see the fact that over the last 100 years we have liberated millions of people from the evils of Nazism, Totalitarianism and communism.
You can't say the same because liberalism is solely dependent on individuals acquiring and maintaining political power and then developing bureaucracies to solve everyone's problems that magically never get solved. Thus the never ending cycle of the do-gooder liberal needing to stay in power. That's why your hero's bill and hillary are driven by polls and political ambition and not core beliefs. I just think this is the wrong way to look at things.
These comment-bombs we throw back and forth are a waste of time. I'd love to debate you over a beer but suffice to say we wouldn't change each others minds.
As you can see, the main context of my comments are that I believe liberals are wrong. The big difference here between you and I can be stated in a comment I heard from a popular conservative: "Conservatives think liberals are wrong, liberals think conservatives are evil".
How can we have a rational conversation when this is the starting point?
[Bill and Hillary are not heroes on this site. Get that straight. We're not pleased to host someone who lies about this site to our faces, on the site. As for your assertion about them and polls look here, before you start calling the kettle black. http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/02/americans-to-washington-reject-bush-agenda/ We thought you were behaving yourself and decided to take you out of moderation. But if you keep up with this line-I'll hold up your posts again. Got it? Sitemonitor]
For real
She looks 90% like Stiffler's mom.........even the way she moves her lips.......(I need a cold shower, BRB)
*Bwah! ha! hahaha... Bravo Stephanie! Flush Limbaugh IS an anal cyst.
I posted about this, this morning on my Daily Kos diary - giving Jon Soltz the heads up of what Melanie Morgan said about him . . . he may be demanding an apology
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/2/9472/37900
Welcome to USA talk radio. This is where the host invites the listnership to call in and comment but no sooner than they can open their mouths, the hosts does the talking.
Whose invited who to the H&C show?
We have a saying above the 49th...".If you're doing all the talking....how are you learning?"
Faux is Fiction @ 16:
Actually, Stephanie Miller did have a great line along those lines, a while back, leading me to start listening to her morning radio show. Her quote was "Sean, you're always wrong, that's why God made you pretty."
I love it when these hacks spout things like, "they took that out of context" or "they're bending the truth to fit their own agenda" when defending their arguments. It's as if a monkey was listening in on two liberals having a debate, took some notes and then relayed them back to republican HQ which in turn circulated a memo saying, "when asked for proof in support of your argument, regardless of context, fling around some of the following rebuttals. Somethings gotta stick".
mudshark @ 25:
I do, it's what happens to liberals when they lose their way, are far away from home, etc. and in a spate of fear grab a hold of the first constant voice they hear. It is exactly the same process and reasons that leaves people vulnerable to cults.
Often and for far too long that constant voice has been Limbaugh, etc. consistent and prolonged exposure turns the most reasoned, rational, and reality based liberal into a mind numbed robot, uh, I mean dittohead.
I know, it happened to me ... a liberal who lost her way, became a conservative (gack - I even had the hypno neocon limbautomy eyes) ... but I was snapped back to reality shortly after the 2000 elections .. all totalled I spent 6 years in the neocon yuckesphere.
Send good vibes and prayers BigKAD's way. . . that he/she may soon find his/her way back to the light...
and BigKAD all those characterizations and anti-American scat you find objectionable over here are nothing to what you find over there about us. Ask David Brock
Uber Chad @ 105:
Or when they say things like "it depends on what the meaning of the word IS is"
oops .. forgot to give BigKAD this link
Blinded by the Right: The Conscience of an Ex-Conservative (Paperback)
http://www.amazon.com/Blinded-Right-Ex-Conservative-David-Brock/dp/14000...
I have a crush on Stephanie. She rocks. If her show's not on in your city call all the talk radio stations and ask them to carry it
I have raised this point before but I think that it bears repeating, Whenever the superpatriots like Hannity and Limbaugha and O'Reilly, et al, wish to condemn those who have criticized General Petraeus, someone should remind them that generals in the past like MacArthur and Westmoreland were not above being criticized for their reckless behavior. But the Democrats, and apparently liberals, are apparently being once again cowed into believing that they are unpatriotic if they were to point out these obvious truths concerning military figures like MacArthur and Westmoreland.
Clytemnestra @ 108:
Every time someone on the left wants to talk about political conversions, they pull David Brock out of their A##. I can guarantee there are significantly more intellectuals, scholars or other intelligent people who started out on the left and then grew up, developed common sense and became conservatives. If you want to start a list Clytemnestra, I'd be happy to compare.
BigKAD @ 107:
mmmmmm. Clinton Clinton Clinton. What would you right wing types bitch about if you couldn't fall back on blaming Clinton for something?
I'll GIVE you a clue. No quarter necessary. If you think for a second Bill or Hillary Clinton are left, left of center, moderate or centrist, you're as stupid as anyone who thinks CheneyBushCo is honest, upright and has the best interests of the USA and The Constitution of the USA at heart. Really. The Clintons are no different from the Bushes. Except they SOUND smarter, and didn't get nailed DUI. Other than that, they answer to the same corporate masters.
You're batshit crazy insane if you think people who visit this site admire the fuck out of the Clintons.
Just bringing up his past transgressions here is a pathetic attempt on your part to whip up any kind of defense of the Clintons. That might work on Hillary's site. try it there.
BigKAD @ 107:
The bj again? Aren't you a little tired of that? Burn him in effigy and get on with your life already. A little oops, late at night, in the privacy of his own office. Maybe it's the, "in his own office," that gets stuck in your craw?
There's no "out of context here". Watch the video and tell me how many times they talk about the soldierS. It's patently clear to anyone with normal hearing.
Hugs, kisses and u------h Stephanie!! Good JOB! You get the glass bicycle with the jelly seat.
My two favorite moments...When Melanie Moron said ..."There's an effort by the country" (Freudian slip extraordinaire) by the left in this country, to denigrate conservatives."
Then when Stephi pointed upwards and toward the corner simultaneously I.D.ing either Rush and/or M. Moron as "A Giant Anal Cyst." Now I don't know if that was a behind the scenes stroke of genius or simply kismet, but I'm gonna take that one, and like it either way.
Oh and then Momma mentioned Rush's bashing Micheal J. Fox Mel's face shriveled up like one of those dried-up old lady apple heads that are so popular this time of year.
Gotta love those traditional arts and crafts.
Snowball @ 64:
It did happen, but it wasn't only the left wing who did it (they called the Vietnam Vet "Baby Killers" duirng the first televised war, but the right wing did it too - they blamed the Vietnam vet for loosing the war . . . one WWII vet at one of the major vet organizations (not the DAV) hung up on my ex husband when he was looking for help saying "You pussies lost us a war, why should we help you?"
But you are correct, the actions of some on the left should not tar the whole movement. Just like the actions by some on the right should not tar their movement.
Actually this is still the party of Harry Truman, Scoop Jackson, and John Kennedy. If we, the Democratic party, learned ANYTHING from the Vietnam War it was not to go in undermanned, undersourced, and underplanned military action that would draw us into a quagmire. (Your party did just that and more)
But your party continues on the same path as Nixon did with the Vietnam War, you learned nothing. The Republicans are not the party of my grandparents, the one of fiscal responsibility. If anything the Nixon years taught your party how to be even better at corruption, enemies lists, and polticalization of departments of government that the citizenry need to be able to trust for our form of government and all it;s promise to be successful.
See:
Worse Than Watergate: The Secret Presidency of George W. Bush (Paperback)
http://www.amazon.com/Worse-Than-Watergate-Secret-Presidency/dp/04466948...
By John Dean, he was there, he should know -- (my secret admission, as a child I had a crush on John Dean)
Conservatives Without Conscience (Paperback)
by John W Dean
http://www.amazon.com/Conservatives-Without-Conscience-John-Dean/dp/0143...
Broken Government: How Republican Rule Destroyed the Legislative, Executive, and Judicial Branches (Hardcover)
by John W Dean
http://www.amazon.com/Broken-Government-Republican-Destroyed-Legislative...
The Conscience of a Conservative (The James Madison Library in American Politics) (Paperback)
by Barry M. Goldwater (Author), George F. Will (Foreword), Robert F., Jr. Kennedy (Afterword), CC Goldwater (Editor), Sean Wilentz (Introduction)
http://www.amazon.com/Conscience-Conservative-Madison-American-Politics/...
The Battle for Peace: A Frontline Vision of America's Power and Purpose (Paperback)
by [General] Tony Zinni (Author), Tony Koltz (Author)
http://www.amazon.com/Battle-Peace-Frontline-Americas-Purpose/dp/1403976...
I always find it amusing to watch chickenhawks defend chickenhawks while screaming that we are the anti-Americans and that we are unpatriotic. They just don't seem to be able to grasp the irony of their own lives. I have to wonder, are they that stupid, severely intellectually challenged or just simply ignorant? Probably all three. This is why I don't spend too much time thinking about their abundant idiocy.
For BigKAD
You tell him Miss Kitty. Generally, I find trolls rather amusing, but this guy is insipid and tiresome. You're just another whiny wing-nut hackjob BigK. But then, you all are. You just screech louder than normal people.
Stiffler’s mom is hot.
Edwin @ 117:
I think he went over to Hillary's site to piss them off, 'cause it ain't working here.
Limburgh cheese = nobody would call your office to ask what you "meant by that" because you are so high on your "prescribed" medications you probably can't speak straight, as witnessed by your diatribe, let alone understand the question. You are a disgrace., I don't ever listen to your show === only hear your outrageous excerpts that are without doubt IN CONTEXT., and you are a disgrace as is your president to even call yourself American....please no one call me names., I don't bother to look. I have a right as American (I was taught I have) to freely speak my mind. Murtha is an American hero, Kerry, Gore, King, Kennedy - these are Americans., not these cowards. I have had ENOUGH!
BigKAD @ 47:
Amazing. I am probably about the same age as you, actually had a good college education, and read much history, and yet have come to different conclusions than you and have a different character. For one, I don't associate the left with anti-soldier - perhaps because I work with the military and deal with soldiers and officers. For another I don't see the left as reactionary. I see them as the only ones willing to conserve the lessons of history that Habeas Corpus is an essential principle of government, separation of church and state is good, wealth inequality is not good, elimination of regulations is not good, privatization of military, police and firefighters is not good.
I have read history about people being imprisoned by the royal court for basically no valid offense, one of the reasons which resulted in enactment of Habeas Corpus. I have read much about the Auto da Fes, the crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the burnings of "witches", heretics and scientists when church and state were one and individuals did not go along with church. I know about what the U.S. citizenry went through when there was large wealth inequality and children had to work in the factories, and what people experienced when there was no FDA and food was spiked with poisons like lead, in the late 1800's. I know about what happened (in New York City for example) when firefighter groups were privately run.
In short, I have read the history leading up to why many "liberal" principles in government were enacted, and know what the country was like before they were enacted. I don't see how anyone could read history thoroughly, love the country and its people, and have a Republican mindset. It's just makes no sense unless the lessons of history just didn't sink in.
BigKAD @ 47:
Christ BigKad get your Godamn synapses firing will ya?? As a Vietnam vet and Independent I'm here to tell you there were plenty of Vets that were against the Vietnam war and still served gallantly. Did you ever think of criticizing Reps and Dems alike that put us there in the first Godamn place??????????????????????? What the fuck does Liberal or Conservative have to do with it?????????????????
p.s. Limburger cheese = there is no "front" for Hillary Clinton, as Fox News is for Bush; Media Matters has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton., Stop taking those drugs, get married for the fourth time., obviously you need a new diversion....
BigKAD @ 107:
Do Repubs obsess over Bill Clinton in their sleep? It's like they project every issue with society onto a virtual mock-up of Bill Clinton which fevers their imaginations.
"Do Repubs obsess over Bill Clinton in their sleep"
That almost sounds like a title for a Phillip K. Dick novel
Clytemnestra @ 115:
Well said Clytemnestra. I remember the harassment of the military during those years and my own personal experiences with "No dogs and sailors allowed on the grass" posted in front of homes. These were homes in predominantly right wing neighborhoods. The spitting and other harassment happened for several reasons and you were correct in saying that it came from both the right and the left. The left shouting "baby killers" and other remarks because they just simply hated the war. The right because they felt let down because they knew they were losing the effort to continue the war. Not unlike the right that wants to keep the war in Iraq going and for the same reasons: They like war just as long as they aren't the ones fighting it.
The left has matured to the point that they no longer blame the military for being involved in the war. We all know that it is Bush and the people who profit from the war that keep it going. Our military understands this too and that pushes the majority who oppose the war to far outnumber those who support the war. This is not a left-right issue alone. It is an issue between decent people who don't want to participate in all the death and destruction so that a few elitists can prosper and those who are too stupid to figure out that they are being used to further the goals of those elitists.
Hannity: if you think Dems won't pay for soldiers' armor, you have the big bucks, as does Limburgher cheese who certainly has the big bucks., why don't you cough up a few hundred thou? clearly your Bush pals will let you shelter it as a tax deduction., you
self serving cowardly atheistic (not that I care about being an athiest)., phoney. You look strong enough to serve., why don't you head over there for a year or two? We'll still be there...and please get rid of the dried up fig that is supposedly representing us liberals, ....what a joke he is. Soros can give his money where he wants just like your corporate pals Greenspan and Buffett, and golf partner to Daddyo G.H.W. Bush - Bill. You all stink.
STOP THE WAR IMMEDIATELY, SUPPORT THE TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME.
Clytemnestra @ 115 - You had an adolescent crush on John Dean? Rather embarrassed to admit that, um, er, so did I. My dyed-in-the-wool Democratic parents would have been horrified to know their teenaged daughter harboured secret (if rather naive and innocent) fantasies about that conservative bad boy.
Retired Navy @ 127:
Thank you … and IMHO you said it better than I did
nonny mouse @ 131:
Okay I'm giggling cause my liberal parents would have been horrified too if they knew. Actually I was so upset that he was involved, but that he was changing his black hat for a gray one at least.
I wonder if he know's how many adolescent/teenage crushes he fueled during the Watergate years.
Clytemnestra - I have a feeling John Dean is perfectly aware of how many swooning teenage crushes he inspired, although it's probably well after the fact. At the time, he was doing his best to be an empathetic witness in a bid to save as much of his own arse as he could and keep it out of jail.
Still, conservative bad boy or not, I'm glad to see he's done some good in later years.
nonny mouse @ 133:
It maybe the waining crush in me but I do believe that his conscience took hold of him and compelled him testify and break ranks ... though I don't dismiss saving his own butt wasn't one of the motivating factors
a haiku
Fox is antitruth.
The neo-fascists reign
Pounds the torn dry land.
BigKAD @ 100:
"Your worthless Nixon and Reagan references" Worthless because they proved you wrong? What he said was documented and the truth-oh yeah I forgot-The Truth is anathema to the Con movement.
"One of the differences between me any you, I'm not beholden to a politician or even a political party" Wrong again. We all here are pretty much the same-not beholden. You don't have exclusivity on that.. You are speaking of something of which you know nothing. Sad that you think you're clever, really.
"I believe in the greatness of our military and see that they have been a force for good in this world. Why don't I ever hear liberals speak of these things?' Um because you're wrong wrong wrong.
"You can't say the same because liberalism is solely dependent on individuals acquiring and maintaining political power and then developing bureaucracies to solve everyone's problems that magically never get solved." Wrong. Even if it were so, you are preferring the bureaucratic juggernaut of bureaucracies, The Pentagon? The Thugs and complicit Dems can't give them enough money.
""Conservatives think liberals are wrong, liberals think conservatives are evil".
How can we have a rational conversation when this is the starting point?" Uh you're the one coming to this site calling names, making false accusations and out and out lying. Is that what they teach in Conservative school-"If you want a dialogue with others that don't think exactly as you do (and as conservatives we're used to everyone being 'On Point') start by insulting them."
Dude. Like I said before go to Hillary's site if you want to get some digs in at Bill. Go to the Democratic web site if you want to make blanket statements about a group of people. We are not what you think we are and you are woefully unprepared to deal with that.
Moron and insHannity are crack addicts
i wonder if there is anyone from the right who can state their case RATIONALLY. i mean, liberals seem to ba able to calmly, rationally, and thoroughly state their case. they seem to only be able to bring hostility, hysteria, fear, and xenophobia. whats up with that?
i meant " BE able to calmly..."
BigCAD:
If I were you -- and thank heavens I'm not -- I'd quit while I was behind. You, like so many deluded "conservatives," are woefully out of your depth.
I love how Melanie Morgans mouth goes sideways when she starts to get mad.
The above statement is in no way substantive, but at present I have no words of sanity and wisdom, my anger prevents me from anything close to intelligent commentary, if I ever had any in the first place :)
what a waste of airtime this show is. all blowhardee about meaningless stuff.
Stephnaie was funny though, what with ass pimple and long winded talking points comments.
And with a deft touch, likened to that of a concert pianist, the surgeon probed the vast anal regions of Rush Limpdick, Slowly but surely, he wrestled the angry beast from its rectal sanctuary. Finally the surgeon , exhausted and sweaty from his mortal battle, raised the malodorous orb to the light and it was.... Sean Hannity.
Thats all i got
These fuckers are sick they never interview NCO to ask their opinion, it's always an officer, some west point prick and that's what they trained for. I'm surprised the public hasn't caught on yet. I'm surprised the Dem's havn;t caught on to this
Yeah Scamitty & Rush.
We take you out of Kotex.
Big haters of our troops.
It is time to ask the wing-nuts: Isn't all this trashing of Media Matters based on your resentment of Media Matters founder David Brock? After all Media Matters would not exist if Brock had not been a former conservative who spilled the beans on the unethical and dishonest behavior of the neocons.
*91 Otay, thanks. Stephanie should have caught that immediately. Petraeus has never seen combat. I don't know how she repressed Hilary-laughs the whole time, actually.
Sure. They hate Brock cause he is aware they lie.
They make dollars via their lies.
If they told the truth like Brock they'd be broke.
Melanie Morgan--Fake hair, fake lips, fake argument, end of story.
We should all march up Billo's driveway
as he gets his mail.
This FOX horsepucky should stop.
morgan's face is the 9th wonder of the world
with multi face lifts and all that botox, its amazing she can even talk..as it is, she sounds like a bad ventrliquist
saying that...miller has a real prob thinking on her feet
im sorry, but she stumbled over her own prepared ad libs, and basically left it to wimpy colmes to state the facts of what el druggo really said
im still waiting for someone to ask the el druggo apologists, what the fuck he has ever really done for the troops, other than to take one trip to afghanistan....whoopeedeedoo
and steph left out the best thing el druggo said about hackett, when he called him a "staff puke"
ya...great supporter of our vets
and fuck hannity, another anti education college dropout who's entire vocabulary consists of talking points
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