The Daily Show: Lynne Cheney's Interests
By Nicole Belle Wednesday Oct 10, 2007 7:14pm
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Lynne Cheney went to pimp her latest book (no Western lesbian scenes, sorry, folks) on The Daily Show. True to his distaste for the vitriol that passes for news discourse on most American stations, Jon kept it civil, but made his points, albeit while admitting that it was both uncomfortable and unfair to hold the wife responsible for actions of the husband.
The most revealing point was when Cheney trotted out that most tired Republican line that we haven't been attacked since 9/11. Thankfully, Jon showed--in the most polite way possible--how completely disingenuous that talking point is.
CHENEY: You know, I think when the history books are written, that we will look back on this period of time and we will say, on 9/11, we really thought within six months, we would be attacked again, maybe six weeks. It's been more than six years and that is not an accident. I think this administration - my husband and the President - deserve a lot of credit for that.
STEWART: Okay.
CHENEY: Good (laughter)
STEWART: Well, alright. There was, I mean, there was the anthrax thing. And then there was-well, you know, the first time they bombed the World Trade Center, it was eight years until we got attacked again. And they weren't apparently doing anything...
CHENEY: Well, yes, but there were many attacks in between 1993 and the World Trade Centers coming down in 2001. Remember the USS Cole, for example. There were worldwide bombings going on, the bombings in embassies in Africa. So the terrorists weren't reluctant to damage American interests and kill Americans. Friends?
STEWART: We are friends, it's just...you know they have been doing that all these past six years. They've been...I mean, you know, the Spanish bombing and the English bombing and all the bombs in Iraq...
CHENEY: Yes, but I'm talking about American interests
STEWART: Aren't we interested in...? Alright, I assumed that they were our allies.
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She's takes that lying patriarchal line: Who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes. They attempt to make their own truth, taking dimwitted women like her along with them.
Cheney's batshit crazy wife is crazier than Malkin and Coultergeist. What is it, the full moon that is bringing these nutjobs out?
it's o.k., jon, sheeee creeeaaated him-yes, jon, she is the madam frankenstein in our midsts.
I absolutely refuse to watch any video of that fascist bitch. She and her monster husband should take the next shuttle out to the space station and stay there till the end of time.
Blackwater operatives attack U.S. Army Soldiers in Iraq!
From Newsweek:
Oct. 15, 2007 issue - The colonel was furious. "Can you believe it? They actually drew their weapons on U.S. soldiers." He was describing a 2006 car accident, in which an SUV full of Blackwater operatives had crashed into a U.S. Army Humvee on a street in Baghdad's Green Zone. The colonel, who was involved in a follow-up investigation and spoke on the condition he not be named, said the Blackwater guards disarmed the U.S. Army soldiers and made them lie on the ground at gunpoint until they could disentangle the SUV. His account was confirmed by the head of another private security company. Asked to address this and other allegations in this story, Blackwater spokesperson Anne Tyrrell said, "This type of gossip has led to many soap operas in the press."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21163806/site/newsweek
I watched this....believable....oh yeah....very believable.....loved it when the audience went.........OHhhhhhhhhh.
Did you see that look she gave Jon when he asked (about Darth), "When he's wrong, at home, does he say...? Ick. She refused to answer that and said she'd rather talk about the war.
I think she was trying to show her softer side(as if)........I'll betcha she makes a run for Sen seat from Wyoming....Liz Dole incarnate
CHENEY: Yes, but I’m talking about American interests.
So human beings who live on other continental land masses are less important than those of us from the center of North America? Is an Iraqi life less valuable than an American? Maybe she could reveal her ranking of human beings in order of valuability.
Hey, you have to feel sorry for her at some level...she has to face Dick daily.
Cheney's asinine statements are another example of American Exceptionalism. As long as terrorist attacks do not happen on American soil, then those attacks are acceptable. Unfortunately, Stewart apparently was not up to the task of explaining to this wife of one of the leading neoconservatives that it is because of the belligerent presence of the U.S. military in the Middle East that terrorist attacks are occurring in Europe as well as in Iraq. The largest accumulation of terrorism in the world is located in Iraq but that group is not al-Qaida; rather it is the United States military, which serves as the biggest recruiting tool for al-Qaida regarding its brutalization and occupying of the Iraqi people. But these statements were brought out by neither Lynne Cheney nor that liberal icon, Jon Stewart.
You could say, she's obssessed with Dick and she always has Dick on her mind. She worries about Dick and probably thinks Dick works too much, but she has gotten as far as she has in life by serving Dick as best she could.
if she is going to count military targets on the other side of the planet like the USS Cole, then we have been attacked thousands of times in iraq and afghanistan. terrorist attacks have gone up significantly since bush/cheney invaded iraq.
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Errol...cut him some slack.....they could make him have an unfortunate accident...........I wouldn't put it past them..
I will say it was refreshing to see two people so completely on different ends of the spectrum be able to talk about things without the name calling, yelling, and talking over each other like we see everywhere else. I disagree with her 1000% on everything she said but at least, in the short conversation they had, you could get a glimpse of the why she believes what she does. Albeit completely ridiculous!
raymond @ 13:
Yeah..I guess you could say.....she truly loves Dick............................................................................................hurllllllll
I'd have crucified her...
raymond @ 11:
And don't forget, they never spend a minute apart because he keeps her in his man-sized safe.
I'd rather eat week old eat dog vomit than watch her on the tee-vee. She is the spouse of someone who is pure evil. She is happy to prosper by her husband's evil. She stays with that slimeball of her own free will.
Oh, horse hockey, Stewart dropped the ball.
He really needed to ask her why she has spent the last few years writing nothing but kid's books?
Due to her bona fides she was on Dubya's short-list to be Vice President in the 2000 race.
First Vice Lady Cheney is just as, if not more evil than Dick is.
(x-posted from elsewhere...)
What's The DEAL with First Vice Lady Lynne Cheney?
"Get 'em while they're young" is a tried and true indoctrination strategy that worked well for the likes of The Soviet, Chairman Mao, and Adolph Hitler, just to name a few.
I mean why else do you think it is that First Vice Lady, Lynne Cheney, Big Dick's old lady, who in addition to her Ph.D in 19th century British literature, who was also on the short list to be Busch's Republican Vice Presidential running mate in 2000, and who is a Senior Fellow in Education and Culture at the American Enterprise Institute,who served on Lockheed Corporation's Board of Directors from 1994 to 2001, and who co-hosted CNN's Sunday edition of Crossfire for 3 years, from 1995 to 1998, has spent the last 5 years of her professional life, with *all of that* in her background....
Has been publishing Children's Books?
Say what?
And not just any kiddy books, but the kinda nationalistic, jingoistic, crap that would have made Josef Stalin so jealous that he'd a wet his pants and blush.
Given her track record, I don't think First Vice Lady Lynne Cheney is putting her energy into an on-going project like this out of a desire to 'give something back', or the goodness of her heart, or any other some such crap like that.
It's more along the lines of helping build a drone army of easily influenceable and malleable undereducated idiots that will be ready in 12 years to do their duty, for God, Country, Halliburton and Blackwater.
And her work in this area is just one small tiny piece of a much larger puzzle. Check out the textbooks that have come out of Texas that have flooded America's schools from the 1980's on.
Essentially what the goal was was to destroy a generation of Americans by kicking out the basic building blocks needed to create a Middle Class, and as far as that goes, I'd have to say...
Mission Accomplished.
~nwa
CHENEY: You know, I think when the history books are written, that we will look back on this period of time and we will say...
Trust me Lynne, when historians look back on this period of time the name "Cheney" will be synonymous with a warmongering fasicst sociopathic liar. Children will read in their history books about the attempted fascist coup led by Dick Cheney and the neo-cons. Your great great grandchildren will carry the shame of their last name.
Smack_dab @ 20:
you might need some super hot sauce.....and some butter
Dave @ 5:
Agreed. She and her husband are fascists. They don't get any air-time with me.
It was a video, no wonder I couldn't find it.
Here is what the ultimate goal of First Vice Lady Lynne Cheney's "Children Literature" is.
Like I said, she's just as evil as her husband, and the stuff she's doing on her own would make both Stalin and Goebbels blush and wet their pants.
Still, as messed up as it is, I do find this funny.
~nwa
At the end of the day, Jon Stewart does what he's told, just like everyone else on TV.
He forgot to ask her how demonic alien sex was.
Screw Lynne Cheney. I remember her from the 1990's when she was a hateful hack spewing garbage on TV about the Clinton's. I could tell last night that the witch in her was just bubbling beneath the surface. Let's not pretend she's Prudence Goodwife and a victim of her man's misdeeds.
At the end, when she waxed poetic about how she thinks adults should be able to do what they want, etc., I wanted to hurl. If she really believes that, then it makes her an even more vile person to me for selling out her beliefs for politcal/financial gain. But then again the rich and powerful don't get that way by being good people.
There are very few people that I hate, but Lynn Cheney is one of them.
I wish here the least of luck in hell.
...should say 'her'
Casper Wyoming is perhaps the most depressing hellhole in the United States.
She and Dubya's mother are perfect examples of why it is wrong to suggest that Coulter is a sex-change recipient as some explanation of Coulter's behavior. Women can be just as evil and uncaring as the evilest man.
she said that with a straight face
she is a sick fuck of a human being
she and dick deserve each other
so when is the right gonna attack stewart for that "gotcha" moment
fuck the wingnuts...everyone of them batshit crazy
Those boos are the remnants of the American conscience.
Nyc W. Alberts @ 25:
LOL...yeah......that's funny........hey he can't help it...geeeeezzzzuuussssss...
Wasn't the nightclub in Bali targeted because there would be Westerners there? Specifically, Americans and Australians. In 2002.
Then there was this...
"Shortly after the attacks at the nightclub in Kuta, there was a bomb blast near the honorary American consulate in nearby Denpasar, Bali's capital. No one was injured.
No group took responsibility for the attacks but suspicions immediately fell on a radical Islamic organization based in Indonesia, Jemaah Islamiyah. The group and its leader, Abu Bakar Bashir, have been linked to plots against Americans by an operative of Al Qaeda who was seized in Indonesia and turned over to the Central Intelligence Agency several months ago.
American officials described the bombings as terrorist acts, and said that they appeared to have been aimed at the United States. An F.B.I. team was en route to the bombing sites, a senior American official in Washington said last night."
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=travel&res=9F06E7DA103AF9...
Last I checked, Hitler was human too.
Jon is truly a decent man. Imagine a seasoned Jon working that interview.
Does anyone really believe that if the Cheneys didn't have a gay daughter, they wouldn't be out there pushing for a constitutional ammendment banning same-sex marriage?
So Stewart could have attacked her, no kidding. That would have resulted in nothing but short term satisfaction for most of us. Maintaining composer and respect in the face of evil while being true to one's principle beliefs is...well, golden. Well done.
BTW- I don't recall ever hearing the Cheney's voice their distaste for a gay marriage amendment?
Of course, the most logical answer as to why no more of our ships have been attacked like the USS Cole, or that no more embassies have been bombed as happened in Africa is that we learned something from the first attacks. The World Trade Center was attacked twice but the two attacks didn't even resemble each other. It's not too likely that anymore aircraft will be hijacked and used as missiles again either. Lynn Cheney fancies herself to be an educator but she gives no one credit for learning from experience.
I guess Stewart would have been civil to Eva Braun as well. What a guy!
She said she is writing a children's book on the constitution. With her writing it, how accurate could it be? It is a joke. None of the jerks have a clue what the constitution says and when they quote something they twist it like everything else to support what they are saying. I sure as hell would not want any kid of mine reading her book!
Why fight them over here when they can fight us over there?
JIHAD! Don't leave home to have one.
Stewart is a hypocrite, unfortunately. He complains about the Dems being wishy washy, and then he has the chance to blast the Cheney bitch for unloading a pile of horseshit, and instead he decides to err on the side of "civil discourse", which he always does when he has a guest that his audience wishes would be taken out and shot.
Lynn is a lesbian. She didn't write about SISTERS for nothing!
She's also just as EVIL as her NAZI husband. She went around her organizations trying to shut out liberal viewpoints. She is UNAmerican and is taking up way too much space on this planet.
Her laugh makes me want to puke right on her wrinkly old face!
Speaking of the forgotten anthrax attacks, it looks like the F.B.I. is putting the same amount of diligence and vigor into the Blackwater investigation.
GonzoD @ 38:
I'm not sure what your point is. This is how change will take place. People meet gay people, realize there's no threat being posed to their way of life, and opinions are changed.
Unrelated point; the world needs more Jon Stewarts, Bill Cafferty's and Dan Rathers.
switchgrass @ 39:
It seems that as long as their base isn't reminded over and over that the daughter of their fearless leader is gay, the Cheneys are fine with teh gay. Just don't ask questions and remind them or the viewers of that fact. Keep it on the down low.
What? She didn't say,
"When it comes to filling our disastrous national void, not to mention saving our own asses from ecological and economic disaster, we can learn more from the world's poor than they can ever learn from the "American experience," or gain from the "American lifestyle" or national ethos of greed."
Jon did not have to tread so lightly around her (other than because of the desire to book similar guests). She is a shill for the Bush misadministration and showed her ignorance in spouting the "no attacks since 9/11" meme. It was good to see her called on such horsesh*t.
Carmikl @ 40:
Not only that but these puppets always fail to understand that terrorists don't usually attack when you expect it. They waited for years before the last attack and would then pop up on their own time-table. They always seem to forget the yet unsolved Anthrax attacks that took place. I would imagine that those who were affected would disagree that we have not been attacked again. Nor would the people of London, Bali, Madrid or Moscow. Using their logic, had Bush only been the leader of those places, the attacks would never have happened.
I have not had the flu since Bush took office, yet I would not try to correlate the two.
My question for Lynne Cheney:
Your husband bears much of the responsibility for the death of 1.2 million Iraqis. Now he desires to drop nuclear bombs on Iran, which could kill another 5 million in an instant. What's it like to be married to a man who desires to kill more people than anyone in history?
This was the first time I have seen Lynne Cheney. So, I had no reason to dislike her. After watching the interview, I still do not. Some of you have posted very negatively about her. You obviously know more than I do. Regardless, I thought Jon did a fantastic job of being a civil journalist. We see too many examples of the right attacking everyone from children to veterans. I am glad America does not have to choose between two versions of the 'evil empire'.
The definition of Fascism. Sound familiar?
fascism
fas·cism [ fá shìzzəm ] or Fas·cism [ fá shìzzəm ]
noun
Definition:
dictatorial movement: any movement, ideology, or attitude that favors dictatorial government, centralized control of private enterprise, repression of all opposition, and extreme nationalism
fas·cist [ fáshist ] noun, adjective
fas·cis·tic [ fə shístik ] adjective
Jon's giddy laugh when he heard her jingoistic blather was music to my degraded ears! Thanks for the clip, Humanity 101 it is.
casual @ 37:
It's also said that Hitler was the most utterly elegant and charming of dinner hosts, as well.
~nwa
The Alberts Exception To Godwin's Law:
"Invoking Godwin's Law is not a thread-killer if the analogy happens to be apt."
Was she selling a book?
wes @ 26:
When she leans back and folds her hands under her chin after the American interests comment, the face she makes is *just* like her husband's.
Second time hearing this. Both Lynne Cheney here and Rep. Franks in just the previous post try to claim Bush is responsible for 6 years of (better make this specific) no terrorist attacks, on American Soil by Muslim fundamentalists. Well I suppose it could be luck but IF you're going to credit him for no attacks after 9/11 during his presidency up until now, then shouldn't he then be responsible for 9/11, the biggest terrorist attack on American soil, ever that happened during his presidency?!?!
Why is everyone writing about Hitler? keep things in perspective people!
As a follow-up to my last comment, Barney Frank, speaking about a job discrimination bill said this:
(from the AP)
There's plenty of reasons to criticize the Cheney's but caring for their daughter is not one of them. It's particularly disappointing that, as noted in the original post, Jon Stewart had a civil discussion with his ideological foe, and yet the people posting comments here are incapable of following suit.
DiggyG @ 47:
My point is that the GOP doesn't care about anyone but their own!
BTW it's Jack Cafferty.
raymond @ 13:
ROTLMAO...
clearly, she's worshiped Dick while supporting Dick as he grew into his hardened position throughout the decades. ;-)
Stewart..made his points...cut him some slack..................for some people it's never enough.
the people who haven't attacked us in 6 years (if you believe the right wing bullshit) have been killing our soldiers in Iraq almost day to day for how long now? *I don't believe we are being attacked by Al Queida in Iraq, actually I don't believe Al Queida is half the threat that the Republicans are to Americans.
So when this bitch says that "We haven't been attacked in 6 years...that's pretty selective thinking. Oh, wait...I just realized that our soldiers lives don't count to these ghouls, they are just saying we haven't had any big publicity stunt kind of attacks in 6 years in America.
What a scary old woman.
mudshark @ 64:
yeah, what did you expect Jon Stewart to do? take Lynn hostage and demand Dick come on the show? sometime people are too much. what he got her to say on the air was priceless and he had to jump through some hoops to get her to answer some of his questions.
GonzoD @ 38:
funny how that works...isn't it?...stem cell ..their against...until one of them gets sick.Just ask Spectar.Abortion..against it until..shhhhhhhhhh...nobody will ever know................................................................very very stange.
Cheney trotted out that most tired Republican line that we haven’t been attacked since 9/11.
It was more than eight years between the two WTC attacks. Besides, Bush/Cheney has made it so the terrorists don't have to come here to kill Americans. 3,821 Americans killed in Iraq as of October 11, 2007. Why should the terrorists come up with some expensive and complicated plan to kill Americans that will take years to bring about when Bush/Cheney has made it so much easier to do in Iraq?
FilthyHarry @ 60:
Someone had to order NORAD to stand down during the attacks. I don't know if you can call it an attack when you punch yourself but that's just my (and many many others) theory
"The most revealing point was when Cheney trotted out that most tired Republican line that
we haven’t been attacked since 9/11."
OK, but how about 9/11 itself? As in...
"Bin Laden determined to attack inside U.S..."
or...
"All right, you’ve covered your ass now."
http://mediamatters.org/items/200608240013?offset=40&show=1
gmsingh @ 44:
Hypocrite? I don't remember Stewart ever claiming he enjoyed kicking the snot out of his guests. You can disagree with somebody's politics without blasting him/her for it at every second.
That said, he definitely took a soft approach in this interview. I would love to see the Cheneydom get ripped to shreds, but at the same time, nobody told Lynne she had to go on the show, and I think Jon respected her for that.
patholigical high school sweethearts
Snowball @ 41:
Well, not only has Eva been to the White House but Herr Busch gave her a Medal for carrying out Paul Wolfowtiz's teacher, Leo Strauss's work so well.
Can't make this stuff up.
~nwa
The Alberts Exception To Godwin’s Law:
“Invoking Godwin’s Law is not a thread-killer if the analogy happens to be apt.”
I always think of Angela Lansberry's character in "Manchurian Candidate".
MacDaKnife @ 53:
Just the fact that she wholeheartedly supports and believes in her husband and his policies is enough of a reason for me to hate her.
and the "war on terror" being faught in iraq does not count as attacks on american interest? for all the lies and bull shit, lynn cheyney will be smoking turds in purgatory next to the rest of bush co.
abarts @ 75:
me too.
That is the most uncomfortable with anyone I have ever seen Jon. He was not alone! Me, the audience, and I'm sure anyone that has watched it anywhere, would imagine that her book is likely as creepy as she is in person, especially when balanced with her husband's persona and actions and history in our government and with Halliburton.
But it matters not that they are uber rich from questionable dealings far removed from their "jumble" roots, or that the "greeted as liberators" was a trap that Lynne unwittingly set for herself in this interview when she said that if we "learn history" we're better off and more likely to take the correct path.
She's a fraud and she knows it- and she's creepy! The worst kind of creepy- shallow.
Democrats must have quick answers to such pathetic wit such as "We haven't been attacked since 9/11." (Wake up Howard Dean!) The soldiers deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan are evidence that we HAVE been attacked and continue to suffer from terror attacks. Do the Republicans think that if Americans die from terrorism outside the US it doesn't count? The bodies coming back are just as dead as the ones from 9/11.
That's "humble roots", although oddly enough, "jumbled" roots kind of makes sense!
thepoetryman @ 79:
she is unnerving.
Kinda like sittting down with Charles Manson.
Usually, after these interviews, the guest stays seated as the station cuts to the break, and Stewart shakes hands again and they chat. None of that for Lynne. She was up and on her way before the cameras faded out. I don't know if that was a prearranged security arrangement or a snub, or maybe I'm reading stuff into it? I've never seen that on Stewart's show before.
I found this interview very frustrating.
I kept hoping Jon would tire of Cheney's passive aggressive semantics and just..slap her down to the ground.Oh well.
Mudshark,
she is unnerving.
Kinda like sittting down with Charles Manson.
Yikes! That's a cut to Manson! I'd rather interview him with his inane comments and sideways glances and murderous history than interview Lynne with her lame attempt to be folksy and not come across as an ogre. I mean the whole thing, with the Darth Vader beginning and the Blue Skies (think innitiative) and No Fences (think immigration) book and the odd tension in the room and the immediate cold flames that coursed through my viens from the moment she entered the stage and attempted to sell her crappy book!
Terror has a new face alright!
This made me nauseous.
I am sure Eva Braun was real nice as well, in conversation over coffee and strudel .... in the bunker.
sulphurdunn @ 83:
yeah I caught that too..She couldn't get out of there fast enough...no snub...she was rattled.
Thank you, Jon Stewart, for defusing the administration's talking point about how well they are protecting us, since no bombings have occurred on U. S. soil since 9/11/01. Those making such claims are always quick to point out bombings in the eastern hemisphere during the Clinton years, but always neglect to cite the bombings in London, Madrid, Bali, and elsewhere during the Bush years. In addition, during Clinton's years, Americans weren't being blown up on a daily basis in the Middle East as they have been since the U. S. invaded and occupied Iraq.
Investigations have since shown that most, if not all, of the highly heralded terrorist plots which have been "thwarted" and subsequently highly publicized during the Bush years were actually nowhere close to happening. In most cases (as in the Miami-based plot to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago), these were no more than the delusional ramblings of some malcontents who had neither the financial means nor the technical know-how to carry out their ideas.
Thank you also, Mr. Stewart, for reminding us of the fall 2001 anthrax attacks in the U. S. which were never solved and have been almost totally forgotten. I will not believe that the Bush/Cheney administration is serious about keeping us safe until Osama bin Laden is captured, tried, convicted, and jailed.
thepoetryman @ 85:
I'll betcha ya she makes a run for the Senate....not the upcoming election...but the next one.
When the history books are written, Lynn Cheney will be irrelevant.
abarts @ 75:
She reminds me of Henrietta from Evil Dead II. "Dead by dawn! dead by dawn!"
I think Jon did great. He can't rough her up that much. After all, we are talking about Chainey.
Bob@80: very well said.
Dave @ 5:
I'm with you, Dave. Much as I like Jon Stewart, I won't willingly put up with a moving picture of that one.
CAUSATION DOES NOT EQUAL CORRELATION. Take a freakin rhetoric class.
Jesus!
She is writing a book on the American Constitution for kids?!!!!
This whole gang treats it like toilet paper and she is writing a book on it for children.
Irony abounds...
Terror's new face is solemn and ashen born greed
Terror's new face is Darth Vader on cold hard cash
Terror's new face drives the sales of shitty books
If her name weren't Cheney it wouldn't sell squat
but she'd still be damned creepy!
raymond @ 11:
How_dare_they @ 90:
Hooooooo Agggghhhh!
Oops, maybe it's me who should go back to school. CORRELATION DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSATION ;P
But seriously, it's frustrating that the level of discourse is so low that people like this can get away with saying thing's that are so fundamentally invalid.
That unfortunately, is a more modern (and misleading) definition of Fascism that has been contrived to redefine it as something that can be construed and compared to Left wing ideology. It has been fabricated by Corporatists and Libertarian historical revisionists. The following is more accurate:
The American Heritage Dictionary instead describes it as:
It is a simple definition that sums up Fascism wherever and whenever it has appeared. We can easily see why Corporatists and the economic elite dislike it.
One only has had to follow the struggle over the definition that has occurred over the past several years at wikipedia to know that it has been a political football. Historical revisionists have unfortunately won the day at wikipedia as you will see the American Heritage definition has been removed. Why is this? Corporatist and Libertarian (not with a small l) historical revisionists have been diligently at work for years to strip the word Fascism from its implications of corporate and elite power and redefine it as a Left wing ideology. Under Fascism, corporations are not controlled, they control government. When you use their definition, they have won the debate. What's misleading about the definition is that it claims merely that Fascism is centralized control of the economy, carefully leaving out who controls it.
[...] Yet one more example why we like Jon Stewart, via CrooksandLiars.com: [...]
Thanks, John, for posting the clip. That's why I come here, again and again...
StirFry @ 91:
I'd throw in a dollop of "Big Nurse" from "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" for good measure.
“He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future.”
~George Orwell
I don't know about you but I felt a weird vibe when watching this woman, is like watching Cheney in female version, like twins.....
So proper, so cold, so distant, so artificial, so calculating, if that is how the folks in Wyoming are?, geez. Yeah, they look people in the eye but that usually happens when you have genuine interest on them, I think in their case is to psych them out, to attempt domination, don't talk that much?, I am ok with that, being laconic is not bad after all but being extremely secretive...that's fucking weird.
It is interesting how she sends veiled messages with her gestures, her way to lay out the words or her body language, always attacking, always jumping to the throat, Jon did a pretty god job considering the entity he had in front, I don't blame him if he couldn't get all the possible answers but how do you deal with an alien?, how do you deal with a living thing that resembles a human being but doesn't feel like a human?
I agree Cheney and his wife have all the power, clout, money, influence, connections they can possibly get and that makes them untouchable and far more powerful than anybody in this country including the very same president but let tell you something, the price they paid was way too hefty: they sold their souls.
"I think this administration - my husband and the President - deserve a lot of credit for that."
I think they deserve a lot of credit for destroying this country from the inside out.
JohnnyBravo @ 105:
Yes. She said this lumped in with "learning history", "Let's talk about Iraq- it's easier", "We're just, Dick and I, ordinary midwesterners" (who rape people and the earth for profit) and with her odd 9-11 mythology.
I still feel creeped out and I watched the video an hour ago...
Augusto,
the price they paid was way too hefty: they sold their souls.
You can't sell a negative...unless of course it's a shitty book.
I notice no one has commented on Lynn Cheney trotting out that REALLY old and threadbare Iraq-war-monger fallacious analogy between the "problems" the Iraqi puppet government is having becoming "a real boy" [a la Pinocchio] and the "difficult" six years between the end of the US War of Independence in 1781 and the writing of the US Constitution. I hadn't heard that tired line for a year at least.
Possible Jon Stewart reply:
"Yeah. Tell me, Lynn, between 1781 and 1787 exactly how DID the new American government deal with the French army occupying all major US cities and occasionally having to destroy some of the large towns to protect the fledgling US Congress holed up in the "Green Zone" in New York? And the French fleet bombarding the coastal towns? ...Oh, wait a minute. I just remembered. None of that was going on because after helping defeat Cornwallis at Yorktown by blockading Chesapeake Bay, the French fleet simply sailed off. And there never was an occupying French army, was there, Lynne."
Or something like that.
Augusto-I think you hit the mark with "entity".
- cold and alien.
Doesn't matter what the sex of the cheney - asswipes all of them! Wasn't she a porn writer at one point? How hypocritical can these smug bastards get?
How many childrens' minds will be ruined if they read Lynn's books? There is no way that the queen of mean for real can have one drop of human blood in her. The comparison between the length of time that it took our forefathers to create the Constitution and the length of our necessary lethal Iraqi occupation was ludicrous. What foreign power had armed troops here in the 1780's? Our Constitution was the first one created in modern times. It took time to create and it lasted for a long time until Bush and company put their dirty hands on it and started eviscerating it. Everywhere Bush and Cheney go, death and destruction follow. John, you were a civil host. I just wish that she hadn't come on the show. Even more, I wish that she wasn't consuming our earth's oxygen.
The most telling part of this interview is when at one point she makes a statement (I think it's the "history books" nonesense) and pauses for what one can only assume is an expectation of applause, the sort that comes naturally from W's pre-screened, loyalty oath fed crowds. TDS's audience is utterly silent, you can hear a fucking pin drop. Even Jon seems to be at a loss.
Isn't Al-K-Duh attacking every day in Iraq don't those terrorist attacks on American's and Iraqi's count too?
raymond @ 11:
I feel sorry for Dick. He is just the devil.
I don't think Jon will sleep well tonight after being given a darth vader doll by darth vader's wife. Talk about a calling card. It was a subtle hint to go easy on her during the interview or else.....
Be the first one to demonstrate the pentagon's new light saber.
Funny, but not really. This was like a cute, make-nice interview with Mrs. Goebbels. Lynne Cheney is an apologist for and promoter of fascism, imperialism, conservative hypocrisy, corporate mercenary militarism and subversion of what was once a great constitution. F*ck her and all she stands for.
They're immune to the smell of their own excrement. One minute she's implicitly blaming Clinton for "attacks" which happened between the first WTC attack and 9/11 (even tho' all - including the Cole - took place off U.S. soil) then when Jon points out that our interests elsewhere HAVE been attacked since 9/11 (London, Spain) she says "Well I was talking about Americans" delusional? Duplicitous? Or as one person pointeed out Charlie Manson Nutty? Doesn't really matter which one - she's caught dead away in a chum line of bullshit and doesn't seem to react at all.
jon better be carefull dick might have had that doll fixed to piss anthrax on jon!
psa23dg @ 58:
sulphurdunn @ 83:
Yeah, she went back to give him a pie, it was on tonights show. ...sort of. ;)
I think people are missing the point.
I used to like the daily show but am watching it less and less and have to change the channel when Stewart starts in. You see him on.. Crossfire, I think it was, stating that the media isn't doing its job by asking tough questions. And when they cite him on his interviews he hides behind the statement that he is "Not the real news" and his show is comedy. While at times it is funny, his leftish attitude is what is turning me off.
Here is an example with Mrs Cheney, who is on to promote a book, he takes the opportunity to get digs in on her husband, talking very little about the book and trying to make her say something she shouldn't. But when algore or OBamma was on, he tee's the ball up for them to knock out of the park.
Where was the hard hitting question about the opposition to the causes of global warming?
If John is a genius, he asks the question of algore and I respect the fact that it was answered. I may disagree but at least I get to hear what the guest has to say about the question.
I just think the Daily show is turning into a bush/cheney bash session and any opportunity to portray them as evil is exploited. Bush will not be elected to a 3rd term, he will not evacuate Iraq and nothing anyone here or on comedy central says will change that. Its a dead horse and people should be watching the show for entertainment, not their main news source.
Also, about the attacks, the uss cole is a military target. When you are at war with someone, and you attack them, that is not terror, nor should it be considered as much. Otherwise, we are terrorist by taking out Sadamm's regime. Though most Dems will say we are.
Agree? No?
i applaud Jon for how he handled that interview. it would've been VERY easy for him to rip into Cheney, but he showed a lot of class while still managing to make his point and land a few light jabs.
Jon's ability to remain calm and make his points goes to further show just how dumb a lot of the pundits out there are....they feel the need to beat down opposing views with verbal barrages and insults. but Jon didn't stoop to that level. and he still came out looking very well in my opinion. well done, sir.
the Darth Vader doll...."has it got a microphone in it?"........
"no Western lesbian scenes"!!!!???
That an outrage!!!!
i cant belive she said
"...should pair this up with colberts book, and then people will buy the two of them-
and they really won't understand how this country works."
watch her hands. as they do the "once and for all" menuver.
Hahah ahah hah- not funny.
Some of you have remarked about Cheney's quick exit last night. It's happened before with guests... usually, Jon has a conversation after the interview but at times people will leave; Bill Gates bolted rather quickly, Chris Matthews was gone in a flash one time... there have been others but it doesn't happen often. Some think they need to leave after the audience applauds but then Stewart starts talking to them and they stay.
There have been two guests I can recall whom Jon refused to speak with after an interview and by that I mean no effort was made for further conversation: Dick Morris and ESPN commentator Robert Smith.
I do agreee... he was not disrespectful. And people do tend to bolt when the audience applauds, usually he signals for them to wait, this time he was doing something goofy at the camera I think and just missed her getting up.
Lynne Cheney's "Sisters" novel is a real treat like O'Reilly's dirty novel
She's never watched the show. Bullshit.
She's gives me the creeps. I think she gives Jon the creeps too.
The neighbors put up the fences after the Cheneys moved in.
Memo to Lynne Cheney:
Forget about being considered as "normal" people.
Your husband merits the scorn of every American that will live long after you people are worm food.
I'm sure Stewart was as polite as all hell. He'd probably mind his manners with Eva Braun and Magda Goebbels as well. Doesn't mean I'm going to watch.
Disgusting bitch.
Smack_dab @ 69:
right... it was a flat-out lie that no American interests have been bombed. If the USS Cole counts, then why not all the bombings in Iraq?
do right-wingers really think they have deterred al-qaeda from attacking America? al-qaeda's whole ideology is to recruit jihadis. they must view America's occupation of Iraq as a gift.
as for her dismissal of the bombings in non-US countries (madrid, london, bali etc) it was arrogant, insulting and cruel.
this whole interview did remind me of Daily Show creator Lizz Winstead's comment:
[...] Welcome to the world of Lynne Cheney. [...]
Oh gawd. Wish me strength: I'm going in (watching video). Gawd, I hate Lynne Cheney.
Video watched, and now I hate her even more. She deserved louder boo's for that American interests comment.
Dave @ 5:
You are far too kind.
Can you send this to the BBC? I wonder how the people in the U.K. will like her comment about American interests, after their attack. Londoners don't count??? The Spanish don't count??? (I wouldn't have a clue where to begin.)
I love to look New Yorker's in the eye. This interview makes Lynne transparent in a way. I can't imagine what her framework must appear to her as. Poor dear, with fangs.
If Jon Stewart wants to play in the game he needs to stop acting like a virgin. Is this supposed to be cutting-edge comedy or Larry King?
That is Jon's Beauty. The fact you have to ask this question. His shtick (and ratings) keep the guests clamouring to be on his show.
I'd be curious what the Spanish & British reaction to that "those aren't American interests" statement is. I can't help but think that Condi Rice's job just got a whole lot crappier.
To all of you thinking Jon was being too civil, are you for freaking real?
That absolutely devastating "not our interests" gaffe, the casual way she set forward her weird parochial worldview (Mayberry Machiavellis indeed), the way Jon got her to open up about her gay daughter - and the whole time just good-naturedly guiding the conversation with that comedian's awkward grace - I think the operative phrase here is "give them enough rope".
The perfect example is how Jon brought the subject of Iraq up to begin with - he leaves it kind of hanging there while he goes off on a series of awkward, probing questions until, in the end, it's Lynne who says "let's talk about the war" and leaps on the bait, and with gusto. Jon neatly parries every one of her points neatly, and then when she finally says something really stupid, he goes in for the kill - and gets the laugh. Big time. You can't say that didn't go well.
Just look at the way she couldn't get away from the desk fast enough at the end. She knew she'd gone down in flames, but she'd been done in so smoothly she couldn't get confrontational about it either. And of course if Jon for one second looked like he was really going after her, he'd lose all sympathy - that's not the Vice President up there, that's the Vice President's wife. You don't beat up on a guy's wife just because you don't like him. Doesn't look good.
I suppose y'all'd be happier if he waterboarded her?
I heard that If you put pink conch shells by your back door it will protect your back yard from tigers. I tried it and there have been no tigers in my backyard for over six years, I think those pink conch shells - deserve a lot of credit for that.
I'm glad Jon Stewart thought better of having Lynn Cheney's husband on his show. It's not fair to attack a weak minded husband for the connivances of his manipulating wife.
Uh, yes, about those allies....
Turkey recalls ambassador over genocide resolution
What a shallow point of view Does she not realize those people don't have to come here We brought them 160,000 targets and they don't have to even join al Qaeda go to all those meetings clean the flyers out of their mailbox pay those pesky dues Habib can just run down to the corner store get a pack of smokes kill an American then go home to the wife and kids
boy did she hightail it out of there...wow.
Ace @ 122:
Me too. I thought he was deceptively smooth. Remember also that Cheney's people may have required that some topics not be raised as a condition of appearing on the show.
Hey, when am I gonna be on the show?
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