Bob Schieffer Commentary Slams FEMA For Phony Press Conference
By Logan Murphy Saturday Oct 27, 2007 12:01pm
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Following FEMA's fake presser, Face The Nation host Bob Schieffer lambasted the agency for their hackery and suggests they do the right thing by firing those responsible for deceiving the American people and try doing their job if they want to improve their reputation.
Schieffer: "...Fire these people and the people who hired them, then explain to the new people that the best way for a disaster relief agency to get good publicity is to do a good job helping victims. As part of a massive new PR campaign, you might even consider taking the PR staff from behind their desks and sending them out to deliver food and water to fire victims. Now that would make a great start."
UPDATE: From Think Progress -
On Tuesday, while "wildfires raged" in California, FEMA staged a live press conference at which agency staffers posed as journalists and asked softball questions. One of those staffers, Director of External Affairs John "Pat" Philbin, has now resigned. He has instead landed an "amazing opportunity" to head public affairs at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
Wow....really, just wow...








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Every single person associated with this fraud should be FIRED. Tomorrow.
But from the democratic "leadership"... crickets...
Oh, and First.
Darn. Just that quick. That's what I get for checking my spelling...
While those responsible should be fired, they'll likely be promoted and perhaps even honored by the dictator-in-charge.
It is the only thing this government (this includes congress) knows how to do well...
BS their way through why they haven't done diddley squat.
Bush will take care of who ever is responsible the same way he "took care of" Scooter Libby.
Simply LOL :D
Schieffer:
Excellent advice. I have heard word that the Dem congresscritters are preparing to start a new PR campaign to convince the public that the Dem congress has done a great job...rather than actually doing a great job...or even a mediocre job. Politicians must really think all Americans are gullible stupid people. But who knows, maybe they are right.
Otay @ 8:
Lets not be to tough on our own ignorance after all it's the thing that makes America Great.
This is essentially what I wrote here a couple of days ago: stop blaming the entity called "FEMA" and show us the faces of the PEOPLE who made this happen.
Without them, FEMA is just an acronym.
It isn't "government" bringing us down; it's real people who carry out the wishes of corrupt bosses. These people don't blink an eye over what they do; they use "it's my job" as an excuse for being unethical, immoral, lying skunks.
They don't deserve their high-paying, secure jobs. Yes: Fire them all.
The war on terrorism is fake to, we have all the facts we need ww1 2 vietnam, korea, afganistan and Iraq. They were all set ups so Generals and the Pentagon can have their fun, and the message is going out! We will not be silenced.
Bob Schieffer has always struck me as a fair-minded no-nonsense kind of guy, so those words should not be too surprising. My advice to him would be to continue calling him out on all the nonsense. He will be listened to.
OUCH! What a bitch slap!
I've never heard of Bob Schieffer or his show, but I will be watching it from now on. Good job, sir.
Another website has reported that while one of those FEMA staffers has resigned (John Philbin), he has been accepted by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence to head up their public affairs dept. I guess fake news conferences are admired by this organization. It is obvious that this government has such sneering contempt for its citizenry that I don't think democracy can survive.
I like Bob Schieffer but his commentaries are not particularly daring. EVERYBODY is condemning
the FEMA fake press conference. A lot of them are common sense, easygoing assessments that
reasonable people can agree on. Let him come out against attacking Iran, or against some
hallowed Republican talking points. Then I'll be impressed.
Otay @ 8:
What the Dems really need to do is just expose the level of obstructionism the whiney losers GOP have been exercising. Just watch assholes like Shay turn hearings into partisan hack sessions and Repukes blowing assholes like Gonzo on the stand. Ill admit ,the Dems are spineless and unwilling to exploit the errors and hypocrisies of the GOP.
Seems the DEms are playing it too safe in the hope they will get ironclad majorities everywhere next year. I dont agree with that strategy either. They should have Bush and Cheney so tied up with impeachment hearings that they wont have the time to keep consolidating Neo power and further driving US into the abyss. I think Bush must have threatened to send Dems some MORE anthrax letters if they dont bend over. Has to be some middle ground between power grabbing, arrogant assholes and pussified wimps.
I wish Schieffer was still anchoring the evening news
Rush to War @ 11:
decidedly so!
GIVE ME A BREAK, THIS ENTIRE ADMINISTRATION OF TRAITORS HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 7 YEARS AND ITS SUDDENLY AN ISSUE?????
The repugnacans don't believe in providing disaster relief, they think everyone should take care of themselves, so just fire these idiots and let people see what life is like in the reugnacan world.
Especially from Schieffer - former republitard, chickenhawk and Iraq war cheerleader?
Gee, now he has a partial spine since when it doesn't matter? What an idiot.
Apple @ 14:
the loss of one traitor is no reason for any joy as you say thier are four more traitors willing to take any of thems place!
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How is this FEMA thing any different from the daily pablum propaganda given by CBS news?
Don't look so smug, Schieffer.
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propoganda american style, control the media,control what what an how we think.can any one say new world order.
Bob also said that it seemed that the Administration's requirements for the position of FEMA PR seem to be 'you can only apply for this job if your IQ is BELOW this level.'
I'd say that's pretty much applicable to the ENTIRE administration.
Meanwhile, did anybody see that the mastermind who came up with the phony conference is already out of his position? Not fired, mind you, but PROMOTED, to be PR spokesman for administration INTELLIGENCE policy! Not lyin, either. Can anyone think of anyting more symbolic of this admin? -Nothing succeeds like failure.
PHONY REPORTERS!
wait 'till Rush
hears about THIS!
heh...
Outstanding commentary. We all know nobody's going to get fired, though. Nobody ever gets fired from this administration for any of their errors in judgment, beginning with those national security folks who failed to protect our national security on 9/11.
you know, with this, and that whole embarrassing Jeff Gannon thing... you kind of have to wonder, is this the first administration to "wag the dog" so to speak?
we live in a networked information age where its pretty easy to check up on facts, spotlight BS, and send that information to a lot of people, really quickly.
how many other administrations have had a PR department that implanted phony reporters to put a bright spin on a problem, this blatantly, that we never knew about? are phony reporters the reason nobody was impeached over Iran/Contra? are phony reporters the reason we didn't pull out of Vietnam sooner? are phony reporters the reason why Americans were "ok" with one-off WW2 battles/suicide missions like Iwo Jima and Normandy beach where hundreds or even thousands of American soldiers died in just one day?
government shouldn't be allowed to have a PR department. dammit, thats MY tax money paying these various offices! the last thing I want to do is elect some jerk then PAY THE SALARY of some other jerk whose primary job description is to lie to me about what a great job his crappy boss is doing.
Philbin was simply paid off to go away and not reveal anything about where the impetus for the phony press conference came from (higher levels). Typical Bush Admin. behavior. He'll probably be nominated for a Freedom Medal soon.
These guys are really something - corrupt, stupid and incompetent really doesn't do them justice for their gall.
And we're paying for it...
Disgusted in Michigan by the Liars, Crooks and Imcompentents in our 'administration'.
Once again, more evidence that this administration; A) will do anything to control the message, and B) cannot be trusted.
repugs don't fade away, they get another position in another crooked agency.
good for bob schieffer. earlier in the week newsreader katie couric – along with jefff greenfield – treated it like a joke.
Scheiffer is one of the very few honest journalists left in the commercial media. Give him your support.
Who says Republicans don't recycle?
This has been an ongoing act of deception perpetrated by the Bush administration. Paying "pundits" like Armstrong Williams, staged "town hall" meetings with scripted questions, altered photographs with our troops, etc. Although these actions have been documented it hasn't stopped the Bush administration from carrying them out. Last week on Bill Maher he had Gary Kasparov on as a guest. Maher asked Kasparov about the high approval rating Putin enjoyed as the Russian leader. Kasparov was quick to point out that these numbers are easily fudged in a totalitarian society by simple manipulation. The only difference between Putin and Bush is that our Russian counterparts are more competent in this endeavor than our government is.
Ahhh ... that update just made my day. You can't make that shit up. Beautiful. The Bush administration gives the ol' "Fuck you, America!" yet again. Classic. These guys are consistent if nothing else. I love it. Thank you, sir. May I have another?
There is so much evidence out there, why aren't we arresting Nancy Pelosi for starters. We demand the power to the people for which the Constitution was written. Citizens arrest time.
Bob Schieffer is one of the old smoothies that BushCo depends on to spin their utter corruption into an "oopsie" with a smile and a wink.
Honest journalist? Hardly. Schieffer is one of Dick Cheney's oldest buddies, and it shows in his perpetual soft-balling of real criminals. They're not really crooks; they're just those clumsy but lovable Keystone Cops.
Propaganda at its worst.
Wow! The "UPDATE" is the real story:
In other words, he wasn't fired he was promoted?!
There was a time when I thought those claiming that this was a "banana republic" were just exaggerating for dramatic effect... now I'm really not so sure. The cast remains the same, they are merely shuffled every so often to appease the lazy and ignorant public.
I'm surprised that Chertoff is so upset about this. I would think that this administration would love this idea. Especially Bush.
UPDATE: From Think Progress -
Just like Condi Rice's firing of the State Department official chosen to take the heat for Blackwater, and then promoting the actual guy in charge of overseeing Blackwater to his place.
Typical from this admin: "have us get rid of one of our people, and we'll promote someone even more responsible for the f*k-up into his place. That will teach you".
swarmofkillermonkeys @ 39:
This shit just defies fiction, y'know?
Has Naomi Wolf vid been posted?
The End of America
I read that story on Think Progress on Friday. I'm telling you, someone somewhere in the White House, is going "man I wish I had thought of that". Maybe National Intelligence needs a few fake news conferences. I can hear it now. "Yes, Mickey, from the mail room, you had a question?"
Katie who?
Rush to War @ 37:
I went to YouTube hoping to find the clip of Barney Fife running down the street shouting, "Citizens Arrest!" Couldn't find it. But this one is good too. Here Barney does his best Dick Cheney impersonation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBuPQgV8yBM
foolme1ns @ 40:
chimpy and chertoff knew about this fake ass "news." He is just as phony as the rest of them.
FEMA is there to line the repugs pockets, the bunch of dumbasses.
I just want to thank Bob Schieffer for this commentary and its small contribution to pointing out FEMA, Chertoff, and Bush and their Kenneth Lay managing skills.
Responsible adults in positions of critical authority? Hardly.
Cronyism over qualified more like it. This is corporate Americas and the Multi-National corporations difficulty. Our President in his Fascist corporate style of government has provided American tax payers with this.
Has anyone investigated the cost of FEMA's cartoon production?????????
You know all involved were paid to perform and produce it....!
The good 'ol Murkin Way, climbing the Corporate/Repug Ladder of Failure
Well, it was Bush's mission to make California fires the "anti-Katrina." And LIES LIES LIES are the only way they know how.
suprise suprise surprise!
A real journalist for troubled times. Very rare amongst the major networks.
Philbin isn't a "lowly staffer", he has a Ph. D. He could have his accreditation put up for review. What is someone like this thinking, that there would be no consequences? Someone can have their creditials revoked if they use those credentials to advance an alleged fraud.
I would like/need an I.D.:
Is John "Pat" Philbin of FEMA the same Pat Philbin of Comey's midnight ride to the hospital to see Ashcroft? Goldsmith does not refer to Philbin as 'John' only 'Pat' so it might not be the same guy.
I know 'a' Philbin's career got sidelined as a result of going up against Addington/Gonzales/Cheney - but FEMA, jeez. Then downgraded to public affairs at National Intelligence, ouch. Next stop RNC???
I hope it is not the same guy who had a career at OLC which can be a springboard for Supreme Court Justice.
Rob M @ 35:
But they're learning.
sailmaker @ 53:
The name matches: It appears this "FEMA" guys is closely connectee with Yoo and DoJ. Not sure.
sailmaker @ 53:
According to his bio:
Let's get this straight: He's going to work in the intelligence area, and was previously with General Dynamics. It appeares someone who grauted from a service academy has lied, misled the public, and they have a PhD in "communications." Is this the kind of leadership America has to offer the world? No integrity, and not relying on his actions.
Boy, with the big brew-ha-ha about FEMA's phony press conference, there will sure be some changes made.
The next time Chertoff wants to con the public, he'll hire(bribe) some real reporters to play their parts. And equip the press room with a two-faced teleprompter, so both the 'interviewers' and the 'interviewee' will be able to read their parts.
Like they do in the White House.
Revoking Philbin's Professional Accreditations
Philbin, as a PhD, should know the Public Relations Society of America [PRSA] standards of conduct. He has allegedly violated these standards of conduct. Members of Congress in the Senate, responsible for reviewing funding for the intelligence community should review his role in alleged deceptions at FEMA. Philbin's accreditation before [PRSA] and his Ph. D. Credentials.
What You Can Do
Contact These people to see if there can be an investigation into Philbin's conduct; to see if his accreditation with PSRA to be revoked. Here are some other people at PSRA you can contact.
Backup
Look at this ethics information: PSRA opinion rules that deception in re blogs is not permissible. Cannot argue that this is wartime: That is not a defense. Deptive affiliation is improper conduct.
Wow @ 56:
Curious: Take a look at This: Their ethics standars.
The above information is for "research" and falls into the "fair use exception" of the copyright law: it may be posted for research purposes.
Take a look at this:
Philbin, as a PRSA member ][per FEMA bio] should know his conduct allegedly violates many standards of conduct. Take a look at the ethics resources like this and you'll see the deception falls below what his oath is.
Wow @ 58:
Anyone up to <a href="http://www.prsa.org/aboutUs/staff.html"contact the PSRA staff to launch an investigation into Philbin's conduct which allegedly violates PRSA?
Draft Letter To Launch PRSA Investigation Into Allegations of Philbin Misconcut
Philbin on or about is reported in the media to have participated in a phony press. PSRA standards of conduct expressly forbid participation in phony activities. Philbin represented himself to FEMA management in his bio as being a member of PSRA. Philbin, when he became a member of PSRA, did take an oath and knew the consequences for failing to meet all standards.
As a Ph. D, Philbin did have the experience, education, and leadership skills required to review the PSRA ethics standards. Philbin either knew, or should have known the standards; and allegedly recklessly ignored these standards. As a graduate of the US Coast Guard Academy, Philbin knew or should have know standards of conduct are enforceable and important.
Based on the findings and disclosures by Philbin in the open media, it is appropriate that Philbins's actions be reviewed for possible revocation of his PSRA membership status. PSRA staff are also encouraged to provide a public letter to the Joint Intelligence Committee in Congress so the details of the investigation can be reviewed by Congressional Staff counsel. All information related to the allegations of misconduct should be forwarded to OPM and the US Attorney for purposes of reviewing whether Philbin as a possible witness to allegations of misconduct could be impeached as a witness before a Grand Jury.
Wow @ 58:
Well that's just a bit of PR, isn't it?
I fail to see how, given PSRA Standards of conduct, how Philbin can be qualified to lead PA at National Intelligence. He knew the standards of conduct applicable to him and PSRA members; there's no telling what other standards of conduct -- other than PSRA -- he sees himself as being "too good" to be held accountable.
His conduct at FEMA bring discredit upon PSRA; and the personnel working for him at his new office in National Intelligence are ill served when their leadership shows contempt for the very things they swear -- under oath and in writing -- to follow. Philbin might as well have sworn an oath to the Constitution and similarly ignored it, raising 5 USC 3331 oath of office questions.
Please ensure Philbin's appointment to National Intelligence receives immediate Congressional review in light of the PSRA standards of conduct Philbin allegedly knew, should have known, or reckesslly ignored in defiance of oath professional standards of conduct. Philbin does not demonstrate the leadership skills expected of graduates of service academies or PSRA members.
All the White House pressers are fake...
Why should FEMA be different?
Take a look at this important clause in the PSRA oath as it relates to government work:
A. Despite the standard of conduct in the oath that expressly relates to governmenet-related activity, Philbin allegegely knew and reckeslsly ignored this standard; or despite his government affiliation, ignore the possible risk that hie might be expelled and or barred from the Society and membership rolls.
B. Despite knowing the standards and clear consequences -- as he should have done by oath -- that were applicable to him as a government-affiliate person, Philbin allowed his good name, credentials, and accreditation as a Ph. D. to be lended to an alleged ruse to deceive the public, allegedly in gross and clear contravention to the professional standards of conduct Philbin swore to uhpold.
We might as well ask the Congress to review the Presidente for violations of his oath of office. But we're only talking about a small public relations society that appears to not have adequate leverage, influence, and interest in its members conduct. Surely, if COngress will not act on impeachment, there is no reason to believe that Philbin's assocation with this society should mean anything. To those who have this PSRA accreditation: Why should the public place any confidence in this society; or care whether you are affiliated with it? It does not appear your standards of conduct inspire the highest place government officials to meet standards of conduct. SUrely, those placed in "lower visibility jobs" have less to fear of being exposed.
When the public sees PSRA-affiliation, membership, or sponsorship, perhaps we're really reading, "These are standards we swear, but don't hold us to them. We don't eforce these rules. They are quaint. They are below us. We are above enforcement." The American pubulic has fair notice what PSRA members are capable of doign, even when they reach the highest levels of US government service. A simple transfer from FEMA to National intelligence should not be expected to change the membership's view of their standards of conduct or their apparent lack of diligent enforcement. Fair notice: THe PSRA appears to not well inspire within the hearts of the membership a feeling of joy and love for the very things they swear publicly. Bush's quote about Coast Guard Swabs:
So proud, their graduates like Philbin allegedly engage in unprofessional conduct and hope to get prompted for it. Heck of a job, Philbin. How's swab life?
FEMA - The Secret Government:
http://sonic.net/sentinel/gvcon6.html
When FEMA was revealed to be nothing more than a PRAVDA wanna be, they had the nerve to trot out Count Chertoff as poster boy for accountability. How sad is that?
Heckuva job, FEMA!
'PR ethics' is an oxymoron, no matter what bullshit PRSA prints
Philbin also listed himself in his FEMA bio as being PRA Accredited. That test requires this certficiation:
What is the plan to mark as "a failure" Philbin's examination PRA Accreditation?
What penalties does PSRA plan to impose?
What is the status of the PSRA ethics investigation into Philbin's alleged violations of PSRA standards of conduct?
Continuing Public Relations Education
What "ongoing" education did Phiblin receive?
When did Philbin plan to "take to hear" the many ethics standards on PSRA website that expressly discuss "phony" press conference, activities, and false meetings?
Does anyone on planet earth plan to see the connection between [a] disdain for professional standards of conduct, training, and duties of a member; and [b] the same arrogance the American legal community and US government officials have shown toward the US Constitution and Geneva Conventions?
In other words, if Philbin -- while working in the "National Intelligence" public affairs office -- learns that NSA was involved with illegal activity; and that unlawfully captured information was used to implement war crimes -- would Philbin be truthful with his understanding that this activity was a war crime; or would Philbin play stupid about evidence the RNC allegedly destroyed to hide NSA complicity with war crimes activities?
Based on a cursory review of PSRA standards of conduct, Philbin's training, attestations, and oath taken, there is no reason to believe if Philbin were aware of war crimes evidence in re NSA that he would truthfully provide information to the public; nor should the public take anything from Philbin as it relates to war crimes information as truthful. Rather, even if the information were taken under oath, it is not out of the question that Philbin's access to war crimes evidence at National Intelligence would not trigger from him a withdrawal from this alleged war crimes activity. National Intelligence might as well leave the position open and have an internal hire, pending public review and comment.
"But there may be others we want to bomb, not just in Iran" Kristol makes me sick.
oops- wrong thread
Here is the key certification which Philbin appears to have ignored:
Does the National Intelligence leadership plan to ignore Philbin's potential loss of PA Certification?
Despite his "accreditation", we're asked to believe that Philbin in the "best" qualified for the position; and everyone else is "less" qualified. Fine. What other violations of PSRA standards of conduct exist within National intelligence that have barred "less qualified" people from becoming leaders within the National Intelligence Public Affairs office?
You can't have it both ways. You cannot argue that "this doesn't matter," but then point to the rest of the office and say, "Nobody else can lead this." You've disparaged the rest of the Public Affairs personnel at the National Intelligence Office by promoting -- into a leadership position -- the person who allegedly shows contempt for the standards of conduct expected of public affairs "professionals."
This is the "model" of "leadership" which the American government want to "export" to Iraq; the "example" that America's youth is supposed to aspire when considering their employment options; the "inspiring standard" that the world is expected to grovel? How absurd. Is there nobody more qualified than Philbin -- a man who allegedly shows contempt, as a PhD, for simple standards of conduct? The Congress might as well shut down funding for the National intelligence Public Affairs office, and compel all public affairs personnel to appear -- under oath -- before Congress to make any public statement. But, given the unfavorable weather, and fact that Philbin allegedly does what Members of Congress do -- show contempt for an oath and standards of conduct -- why expect Members of Congress to hold anyone to a standard of conduct they refuse to hold themselves? No reason.
tHeGaMeOfLiFe @ 43:
tHeGaMe,
This is a worthy 47 minutes!
Geno in Ptown @ 13:
Dude, you never heard of Bob Scheiffer. The guy was the best man at Moses' wedding.
Seriously, he is one of the last great newsmen on the planet. Welcome to the party
I love Bob Schieffer, but the rest of CBS is worthless. 60 Minutes is faithfully providing abominations at a rate of about one a week. Tonight it's a story on bees - on the weekend when Dreamworks's (Viacom's) "Bee Movie" opened. What a coindicence. We get to feel like we watched a worthwhile story about bees, but we've been subjected to a subtle 15-minute ad for a movie.
I agree with Mr. Schieffer, they should all be fired...and, they should not be offered another government job.
"He has instead landed an “amazing opportunity” to head public affairs at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence"
With this administration, incompetence brings rewards.
IMPEACH.
The whole FEMA and the entire white house needs to be cleaned out.
Thank you Mr. Schefer. Everything you said is right on the money but I just don't think it will sink in with the rest of the media goons.
Wow, is right. To most rational people, the Peter Principal is a limiting factor to be avoided, to the Republican party under Bush it is an organizing principal. Why are we still surprised?
Republicans have become total phonies and liars. I am SO sick of them!
I have concluded, based on what I see of official behavior and what I see of Republicans I know - including family members, that Republicans are all liars to their last gasping breath. I am convinced that profound intellectual dishonesty and a desire to manipulate are unifying characteristics of Republicans/conservatives/neocons. They associate together because they share a common, twisted impulse.
I don't see all that much of Bob Scheiffer, but when I do , he seems to be pretty reality-based. Of those who frequently view him, is that an accurate perception?
Shut down FEMA today and refund their budget to taxpayers.
The fact that FEMA has a PR wing is frightening to me.
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such phony concern from a shill whose brother works for the neoCons.
waicool @ 86:
quite a few notches down!
JohnnyBravo @ 78:
And Congress, And the Senate....
waicool @ 85:
Fuck you Neo-Con bootlicker!
Classic. Failing Upwards In The Bush Administration.
Turds, the lot of them.
It's amusing to read of GOP/neocon's excuses, which contradict the White House:
Having established the talking points, and White House position -- that "they don't support it" -- why would anyone dare to surface and support, condone, or justify what the GOP talking points have distanced themselves? Take a look at the following:
waicool @ 85:
Notice the distraction from the issue of whether the conduct was or was not approved; to who approved the conduct. The White house makes no distinction and simply leaves the matter as something that cannot be condoned.
If FEMA, as we are led to believe, "didn't have reporters" at the Press conference, perhaps FEMA might have explored their communication problem: Did the Press not hear the call? Yet, we're asked to believe that FEMA could "only" conduct the press conference then, without explaining how the FEMA would have the time to organize the fake reporters. How can that be?
Let's run through this again: FEMA calls a Press conference; supposedly nobody shows up; FEMA decides "We cannot afford to wait" implying they have "no time" to reschedule; but then FEMA contradicts themselves by planting questions with fake reporters. How can FEMA say "there is no time to delay until reporters arrive," but there is time to pass out questions, orchestrate phony FEMA reporters, and conduct the briefing? This defies reason.
PUtting aside the above commentary on the "timing" problem, Perino said they didn't condone the phony press release. Yet, the visitor to C&L uses the words "libtards" to ridicule those who do raise the same points as the GOP-controlled White House. Changing the subject from whether FEMA management is or is not out of psynch with their controllers in the White House to whether someone is or is not able to communiate to the media that there is an upcoming Press report is amusing: It doesn't address the command and control problem within FEMA; nor explain why FEMA, the NeoCons, GOP, and White House are not on the same page.
We're also asked to believe if there is a "no show" that someone else will be there to ask questions. Really? How can the commenter explain this: If this is true, why would FEMA ever bother announcing a news report; why not conduct secret briefings and present it as open discussion? Again, Perino will not go that far. It's not explainable how someone will "show up" for a briefing that is "not announced"; but we still comply with Perino's requirement that the briefings be open.
The issue isn't whether there was or wasn't a press conference; nor whether the FEMA did or didn't announce the Press conference. The qeustion is whether the management agency designed to provide leadership and reliable information can be trusted to correctly disclose all the relevant information about the information provided. FEMA showed it could not be trusted. This is not a media "reporting" problem, but a leadership problem, which Perino's comments address: The actions are not acceptable.
the commenter changes the focuse from whether FEMA and the President are or are not reliable to whether the commenters do or do not have a right to provide feedback, which Perino welcomed. ["If they didn't hold a press conference, the libtards would be bitchin' about that" ] Feedback isn't the issue: The problem is the original information -- that FEMA was not being candid in it's phony press release -- is being painted as something that cannot be commented on. yet, Perino is commenting on the very thing which our C&L poster would lament only a small fraction of people would dare to comment. It has yet to be explained by our C&L commenter why Perino, the White House, and leadership within the US government take a different position and comment on the very thing which our C&L commenter says cannot be commented on. Is it the position from the C&L reader that even the President is not allowed to comment on things? Surely, the decider cannot face a rebuke; or is there more dissension within the ranks?
Perino's rebuke didn't go far enough. The leadership within FEMA can hardly be called credible. A more orderly approach to the issue would have been to put a "promotion hold" on Philbin; and conduct an OPM ethics review in light of the Public Relations Society of America ethics standard. Sadly, did this did not occur.
As to the claim that the people of Souther California are going to get "liberal" bailouts: The C&L commenter fails to explain how the President -- whose spokeperson opposes the FEMA deception -- will rubber stamp something he has the power to veto. The President, based on the human rights abuse record in Abu Ghraib, GTMO, and Iraq, can hardly be called "liberal." Perhaps our C&L poster can explain how Congress will force the President to sign something; or get GOP support to override.
GOP and the NeoCons have shown dissention. Noted.
Wow @ 92:
wow....that was awesome...
Philbin's promotion to National Inelligence under review. Keep the letters flowingn to Members of Congress, PSRA, and the media: Philbin does not appear interested in complyingn with his freely chosen professional standards. He may choose to ignore them, and the President may reward him for defying his promises to his ethics standards of conduct, but the public can well place pressure on the media to refuse to attend any briefings until Philbin is fired, decertified, and left to explain himself outside the protection of the arrogant NeoCons.
liberalNmoderation @ 93:
wow....that was awesome...
You're welcome. Since you're here, perhaps you may wish to summarize the points above, and share with your friends these e-mails and encourage others to contact the PSRA management officers to have Philbin's certification revoked: Based on alleged violations of PRSA ethics standards. Some may wish to highlight this standard which does not permit phony participants as a basis to succinctly admonish Philbin, especially in light of his Ph. D: He has the experience, education, and insight to supposedly know these standards, review the public information, and ensure his standards of conduct fully embrace these clearly promulgated guidelines.
Philbin cannot be trusted to conduct himself according to PSRA standards. The problem is he took an oath to that organization's ethics standards. Similarly, as a US government employee, he also took a 5 USC 3331 oath. A reasonable leader within the US government would question whether someone who shows they will not follow one oath, has reservations about their oath of office. A reasonable member of a grand jury could conclude that Philbin has mental reservations about his 5 USC 3331 oath of office, warranting conviction for alleged breach of his legal obligation to the US Constitution.
However, more broadly, when US government officials show disdain for standards of conduct, it can hardly be argued their public comments related to war crimes can be trusted. On the table, is the issue of alleged FISA violations connection with unlawful use of illegally captured information to implement war crimes. Philbin is likely to be asked questions as National Intelligence Public Affairs Leader about alleged FISA violations of NSA; and the illegal use of that unlawfully captured information to implement war crimes against POWs at GTMO, Abu Ghraib, and Eastern Europe. Based on Philbin's alleged breach of PSRA standards over a wildfire in California, it does not require much more for Philbin to justify more alleged misconduct and misrepresentations to support an illegal effort to destroy National Intelligence evidence or mislead publicly Congress. Philbin's conduct is questionable. His actions bring discredit upon himself, his association, and the United States. It is foreseeable, should Philbin be asked about the alleged link between FISA violations and National Intelligence complicit with war crimes that Philbin would likely prove to be an unreliable source of information related to any war crimes related investigation or review.
IT is recommended that the US government no longer associate itself with Philbin, and forward the information related to this incident to the US Attory for a review of the alleged 5 USC 3331 oath office issues: Alleged mental reservations in fully doing what one must lawfully do, as required by law.
In your letters, you are encouraged to emphasize the 5 USC 3331 issues: Whether someone has a mental reservation; and whether the subject of the Grand Jury can be trusted to comply with an oath of office. This would tend to put attention on whether Philbin, as a witness during a war crimes trial, could be impached -- or disredited as a witness. The evidence before us, based on a plain reading of PSRA standards and the 5 USC 3331 oath of office; combined with the rebuke by the White house suggests a reasonable grand jury might convict Philbin of oath of office violations: Engaging in conduct that does not meet ones oath, standards of conduct, or duties whith a Ph. D knew, or should know.
Thank you for your support.
The above link to the oath of office may be a problem. Here is a backup.
To bring this home, Dodd and Philbin appear to be on a collision course. Philbin appears to be slated to head National Intelligence Public Affairs, allegedly complicit with FISA violations; while Dodd is on the other side: Swearing to defend the Constittuion against alleged domestic enemies like Philbin.
Philbin v. Senator Dodd, Presidential Candidate. Who are you going to pick?
Crap like this and all the other illegal and war mongering practices of this administration have gone on unchecked is because we have a sham government. There are no checks and balances, no oversight, nothing to stop these traitors to democracy because they have no fear of punishment or retribution. If there is no threat of impeachment at the top, all the authoritarian sheep can do anything they want and get away with it. Bob Sheiffer's comments do nothing to stop these kinds of unforgivable swinish behavior by a government agency supposedly dedicated to helping people that are victims of natural disasters. But at least he said something about it, unlike the rest of the unabashed useless mainstream media.
Philbin has been redlined. Standby, he's likely to be transferred somewhere else. Don't let up on the contacts to PSRA. Keep those letters going. Ensure Congress tracks Philbin, and finds out where he is finally hidden inside the Executive Branch. What does he know? Will he remain loyal to those who he is willing to lie to the public about?
Action Items:
1. Press for PRSA decertification, membership revocation.
2. Press for Public Affairs Certification revocation.
3. Prohibit him from ever testing for any credentialed position in any industry.
4. Move to have his Ph. D revoked by the educational institution.
5. Ensure the information related to the alleged breach of standards be available to a grand jury in re 5 USC 3331; enter into evidence his PSRA signed statement on his standards of conduct; contrast this with above information; move to have Philbin impeached before any grand jury for alleged misstatements and unnprofessional conduct contrary to signed oaths promising otherwise.
According to CNN - Philbin won't be getting the gig and DNI...
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/29/fema.newser/index.html?iref=mpsto...
As an aside... "waicool" - what are you on kid?
If you click on the WaPo story, you'll see the following line:
White House press secretary Dana Perino said yesterday that "it is not a practice that we would employ here at the White House.
Repubs don't have a clue about how to run a country, but they sure know comedy!
Schieffer is just upset because it is his and other media "reporters" jobs to hold the phony press conferences. Really there is not any difference between the fake reporters and the "real" ones, in my opinion. They never ask the hard pertinent questions that need to be asked, only the ones they have been ok'd to ask. It has been admitted that the so called news groups know a lot of stuff we should know but have agreed not to tell us for one reason or another. So next time one of these reporters treat some regular joe as stupid and uninformed remember they are right to do so. Because they are right, generally we are stupid and uninformed. BY DESIGN....
Uninformed people can not make informed and good decisions and so will logically make only the decisions we have been allowed and programed to make. Usually the wrong ones for us and the right ones for thoughs who wish to control us.
J.C. @ 100:
No they would hire and put on the payroll supposed "real" reporters. Who would we be to know the difference?
I guess the reporters they owned would tell us.
moronic, nothing new......YAWN
Will you at least look at RON PAUL??? He really is our only hope.
-marc
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