The High Financial/Ecological Cost of the Death Industry
By bluegal Wednesday Nov 07, 2007 7:59pmThroughout the developed world the business surrounding death has often been an uneasy topic of discussion. Originating in the mid-19th Century, the modern funeral has evolved into an economic and cultural monster, with a vast network of supporting industries and myriad options for your earthly remains. ...This original GOOD Magazine animation takes you inside the business of death.



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that was really good, actually.
And shocking. Yeesh!
If you want to talk about scams one could also look at the wedding "industry". YIKES!
You only live once right? (Insert Laugh Track)
The ultimate in no return is actually the ultimate in SURE returns!
Get my financial advisor on the phone...
what the hell is wrong with soylent green? Probably more Kosher that USDA beef.
"In the UK you can have your ashes turned into 250 pencils" ???
I have to stop chewing on pencils. *ptoo ptoo*
I owe it to the planet to have my corpse run through a chipper, unembalmed, and blown onto the forest floor.
'the paths of glory now lead but to the gift shop and museum" (Jessica Mitford, The American Way of Death).
So now even cremation isn't great for the environment? And what is the plus side of embalming? Someone's planning to dig me up and gaze at my wondrous but dead visage?
My choice is to just dematerialize at will. But I haven't advanced far enough to disassemble my own atomic structure.
So, if you are cremated, then you pollute the air. If you are embalmed and buried, then you pollute the groundwater. Either way, you are dead wrong.
I intend to survive long enough to enjoy developing medical advancements that will push death further and further away.
I already told the kids what to do. Save your money and have me cremated for $300 bucks. Then take the ashes and stuff them into a tube of KY Jelly. Didn't have all that much fun in this life....so maybe the next.
Cremation makes sense. Just need a nearby Ralph's... and wait until a Santa Ana to scatter the ashes.
what a rockin little tune that came with
I hear you can be converted into compost in Sweden. I'd like to have a tree planted in my......compost pile, whatever you'd call my remains at that point. My mom and dad, unfortunately, think I'm joking........I'm wondering at the nuclear explosion when they figure out I'm not going the lead-lined option.
Brad @ 11:
Even if your a living vegetable?
No thanks. Make it quick for me.
Do you people ever stop whining, health care, global warming, diversity, shut the fuck up!
Here in Idaho, when you die you don't have to pay for the burial costs.
chris @ 17:
How is discussing life whining? Want to explain that logic?
Keeping my nervous system healthy is crucial, and suicide is anyone's option. Ever heard of stem cells? nanotech?
L.A. Confidential @ 16:
Didn't think so. Next.
L.A. Confidential @ 19:
Someone gave marching orders--"Go on any librul blog and type this line. Don't make no matter what the subject is".
Beau Jangles @ 6:
Yep, and there is one company in Chicago that can turn your ashes into diamonds through an industrial process, and another in Minnesota that can mix your ashes into concrete to make a nice garden bench.
chris @ 17:
Stop whing Chwis id'll be OK. Poor little thang.
My brother-in-law said he wants to be cremated and have his ashes spread over an open air food court. :)
Brad @ 20:
Yes I have I'm not a redneck idiot or religious freak.
I'm all for scientific advancement. As long as it is used to help people and not a tool-method to put money into the pockets of corrupt racketeers and politicians.
I'm assuming the local health authorities won't allow my family to leave my body on the compost pile to return to nature gradually, so they're gonna have to do something. A wood-fueled funeral pyre wouldn't be adding anything to the carbon load of the planet. I'm kinda partial to the old Viking tradition of being shoved out to sea in my boat with my body laid out on a big pile of kindling and having the folks on shore shoot flaming arrows at me. Big spectacle points and a quiet sense of accomplishment for the successor who scores the winning shot...
Blue Buddha @ 25:
I'm probably going to go that route. Ashes can go anywhere I won't need them nor will I be attached to them by any means. Unless Keith Richards wants to snort them.
:-)
L.A. Confidential @ 26:
Glad I could refresh your memory then.
Yep. That's why I have left directions with my family that I am to get the economy toaster action. Ashes to disposed of as seems proper (dumped on the carpet of a Republican politician would be good).
Different Anonymous @ 2:
Yeah... I heard that the average wedding in the US now costs $50,000. I'd rather get two cars or a down payment on a house for that amount of money.
L.A. Confidential @ 28:
After cremation you don't get "ashes," you get powdery, crunchy residual. My bud Creature and I went to Sun Valley to spread my mom around in the bars and Trail Creek, got f'd up and put some of mom on our salad. Crunchy.
Brad @ 29:
Thanks. I appreciate it.
I want to be embalmed, then dropped in a well on a ranch in Crawford, Texas.
seevee @ 32:
Sheesh you best be glad that didn't get on the local news.
When animals die they do not use chemicals to prevent biodegration. Instead they are left out and detrivores recycle their nutrients for the soil, which gives rise to new life. Just take a field, bury people with only a biodegradable coffin, and when it is filled up plant trees on it and move on to the next patch. It would be so much cheaper and as long as keep an eye on where the run off to rivers are it is a better ecological option.
L.A. Confidential @ 35:
We were discrete..... in a f'd up kind of way.
Cryonics anyone?
my death plan is very green. any tissues for transplant harvested then off to the nearest med. training or research facility---anything left to be made into delicious nutritious solent green.
Chris @ 36:
That's a better idea. I'll give my body to Alpo.
In Tibet, because they're up in the mountains, they can't bury bodies, and there aren't enough tress to get a decent funeral pyre going. So what they do is take the body to a mountain side, tie it to a huge boulder, hack it to pieces, and toss the remains on a pile of bones in front of the boulder as vulture chow.
short-term solution- Doctor strike killing morticians!
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/320/7249/1561
I don't want worm d00ds chomping on me
ooo ooo! i just remembered another option...some universities have forensic training programs that use fresh unembalmed donations to use as murder 'victims'. gun shots, stab wounds etc. leave you in a meadow or on a mountain side and come back periodically to see how the wounds look at different stages of decomposition.
maybe the univ. of tennessee?
L.A. Confidential @ 19:
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l.a. is o.k. sometimes but sadly (teehee) lacks a sense of humor (humour for you englanders)
jen8933 @ 45:
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wait,,,is that guy chris serious? oh my forking gad! wow. sorry L.A. --- you are kind of a grump...but this chris--nah, it can't be. he has to be just someone being silly. tell me that.
This post bears only a tenuous relation to the death industry, although steps the African airlines are taking may either reduce or increase the burial demands in those countries.
Some of you may have noticed the item yesterday about the Antwerp police force hiring blind police officers, armed and authorized to make arrests. I thought it was a spoof, until I checked it out and found that blind officers were of great assistance in analyzing surveillance tape, due to their increased sensitivity to sound and resulting ability to identify background and others noises on recordings.
Well, today, Zimbabwe airlines announced it is hiring blind pilots, because 'Their increased awareness of sounds will enable them to identify incipient failure of aircraft components, for example engines, prior to their actual failure, and thus avoid crashes'. Zimbabwe expects that this 'May reduce the number of crashes of Zimbabwe airline aircraft by as much as 50%'.
Another benefit of hiring blind pilots is that they have not been much in demand, and thus are available at lower salaries than sighted pilots, which will help offset rising fuel costs, thus keeping Zimbabwe airline ticket prices competitive.
But I wonder if they've thought this through. Let's say a blind pilot, due to his acute hearing, notices that one of his engines is facing immediate failure. It would be appropriate for him to take corrective action, which, one would presume, would include landing the aircraft.
Is it just me, or does anyone else see a potential problem here?
" Throw my brain in a hurricane and the blind can have my eyes. And the deaf can take both of my ears, if they dont mind the size"
John Prine
Alpo could solve the problem.
yeah I work for a big newspaper doing computer stuff and have to deal with obits and they charge sometimes 4 digits for one obit, in print and online together. then, the online page will usually be the highest traffic page and will command a higher advertising rate.
Death is like a commodity, everybody has to do it so they charge outrageous amounts of money to bury you. And then they know you are sad and grieving and not in your right mind so they can take even more money from you because they know you are vulnerable. I think it would help if people had things planned out ahead of time. that way the "free market" can work and you can bargain for lower prices. (sorry, got off on my conservative rant).
Beau Jangles @ 34:
and the WINNER IS :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
jen8933 @ 39:
soylent? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Preacher Boob @ 47:
on behalf of the blind zimbabwean pilots union: I don't see a problem. fuck you.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
since the first funeral i have ever gone to, i have always wondered the point of preserving bodies and expending all those resources to do so. I know they sometimes exhume bodies for some reason or another, but that is rare and besides... you're fucking dead, the body is useless at that point.
Personally (even though i am 25 and have a *hopefully* long way to go, i am looking forward to going back from whence i came. (insert cheezy di?ney song here)
not discussing creation or evolution or any of that hooboo, but the sat truth is that The atoms in my body came from stellar explosions billions of years ago, why should they stay trapped in this particular configuration for years to come?
When I die, all my remaining funds are to be liquidated and spent immediately on the most expensive flammable items money can buy, then they are to be stacked into a pyramid and I am to be placed atop it, viking style. Then call the local fire department and light that motherfucker!
Can't take it with you? Watch me, bitches!!
Col Kilgore @ 48:
.....gravestones are for the living, they're of no use to the dead.....
Nitty Gritty Dirt Band
I want my carcass ripped apart by wild animals and hopefully, one day, someone will find my high school class ring in some mountain lion scat, and know that the cat had good taste.
If I get reincarnated as poo, does that mean that I was full of shit in a previous life?
To paraphrase one of my heroes George Carlin, "What kind of mid-evil superstitious crap is it to bury the dead in a certain part of town" and he goes on to say he wants to be chopped up and used for fertilizer because we need that phosphorous. The wedding industry and the death or funeral industry are a big joke but I figured most people had known that for a long time. I have.
Vanity continues after death. Death should be an opportunity to celebrate the deceased's contribution to life. But then do that one final praise-worthy and celebratory act of hastening the "ash to ash, dust to dust" process by being cremated. If your family wants a viewing, you can still do that. You can rent a casket. As far as any kind of resurrection - for those who believe in such things - any god capable of breathing life back into a decomposed corpse ought to have no problem reconstructing something from ash and dust.
99 @ 7:
Preferably after the blood has been removed, eh?
Scott @ 58:
Both industries, weddings and funerals, are a total rip, avoid them like the plague.
99 @ 7:
Same here, except replace "forest floor" with "ex-wifes house".
Body Farm!
http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=924
Sorry, I should have mentioned it may be Not Safe For Work because of pictures of dead people.
Belly got it right: Feed the Tree
Dont forget Buhdists chop up their own and feed em to vultures. Any takers?
Why Die?
Stem cells anyone? Otherwise bright individuals still tend to be death-oriented, even though the technology is maturing to keep people perpetually young and vibrant.
The resources being dedicated to advancing the technology are paltry, considering the benefit to every individual who finds it worthwhile putting their feet on the floor in the morning, or their equivalent if challenged physically.
Worse, there are plenty of those in both liberal and conservative camps who will claim that my preventable death is worth working toward, that the cup of immortality must be dashed from our hands for the sake of you-name-it. Google Leon Kass, and Daniel Callahan, along with bioethics. Death is good for you? Existing became an anti-social act somewhere along the line.
Fortunately there are far-sighted, life-oriented types working towards advancing tech to preserve and protect our lives-- perpetually. That scares people, but we don't owe them the comfort they seek in being free from the decision of choosing life or death.
Some will tell you to degenerate and die to go see baby jesus and see grandma. Some will claim they deserve an opportunity to experience the tradition of caring for a sickening and dying parent, or say the old need to make way for the young. They are stupid or criminal-minded.
a bunch of statistic isn't the best way to understand a complex issue like this.
Here is a much more inspiring perspective on the funeral industry:
www.pbs.org/frontline/undertaking
Here's a fact: I've been in the wedding and the funeral "business" for over twenty-five years. Neither would exist if people did not demand them - and no, the "industry" did not create this. It is a simple matter of anthropology. Read Victor Turner's books about human rituals. Read about "liminality." Humans recognize and find ways to acknowledge all of life's major transitions: birth, adulthood, marriage, death, etc.
Why do we have graduation ceremonies? Why don't we just mail diplomas to the graduates? For that matter, why do we even give diplomas? Wouldn't the records say everything that needed to be said? Is a funeral any sillier than putting on a cheap paper gown with a funny square hat and marching across a stage to shake someone's hand? Why do we even celebrate birthdays, and why in mostly the same way? Because it has meaning for us. You can bitch and moan about the funeral or wedding industry, but every one of life's transitions has an industry behind it: the graduation industry, the birthday industry, the newborn industry. They exist because we demand them - we want them. Let's not get holier than thou about this: EVERYBODY has their rituals of transition, and EVERYONE is exploited. Or maybe it is just that the industries provide us what we want. I have to buy gas for my car; I have to live in a home; but I do not have to have a funeral, or a wedding (not these days.) And yet, I have had one, and I will have the other. It's my choice.
jen8933 @ 44:
Yeah, that's the University of Tennesee's "Body Farm". I might look into that - who knows, maybe my corpse could end up being featured on one of those true crime shows on CourtTV (I always wanted to be in show business!). On the other hand, with my luck, I'd probably just end up with some fraternity douchebags fucking with me - can't win for losing, even in death.
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