FOXNews Sunday: "Managing" Pakistan
By Nicole Belle Sunday Nov 11, 2007 8:38am
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Anyone else feel physically ill whenever Bill Kristol smirks his way through another FOXNews Sunday panel? When Juan Williams brings up the valid point that American foreign policy operates on a strictly shortsighted nationalistic hegemony (I paraphrase, of course), Mr. "My predictions for US interests in the Middle East have NEVER been right" PNAC/Weekly Standard comes back with those great successes in American foreign policy. No, not Iraq, you silly liberal. He means Chile and the Philippines.
WILLIAMS: This is the problem with US foreign policy ever, isn’t it? That we always view it from an American lens. Oh you know what? Let Musharraf do what he needs to do and he’s going to go after our enemies and we’re going to fight against the Taliban and al Qaeda in the north and all this and then it comes down to we’re not paying attentions to issues on the ground, in Pakistan. And in fact, we’re undermining support for the U.S., for democracy and building support for people who are extremists and terrorists. Isn’t this American foreign policy time and time again?
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KRISTOL: You’re right. You’re right, Juan. American foreign policy has been a horrible failure for the last fifty years. We gave people over to communism; we didn’t make transitions to democracy in places like the Philippines and Chile. I think the good news on Pakistan is that the President has pushed Musharraf hard. He seems to have had some success in getting him to agree to the January elections. I think Musharraf is going to be finished. We’re going to have a very dicey job in the next few months of managing—as we did successfully in places like Chile and the Philippines—a transition from a sort of friendly autocrat to a more stable, democratic system. Unfortunately, in this case, we have to do it under the pressure of terrorists occupying parts of the country…[cross talk]…I think Bush has done a pretty…I myself would have been a little more anti-Musharraf a little earlier, but I think the administration has done a pretty good job of pushing and I think it’s going to be a very dicey, challenging next few months.
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So, Bill, lets get this straight....Musharraff has an election in January, thanks to our guy Georgie....Do th Republicans get to display a body member dipped in purple ink this time? The last time it really worked well for you guys, but I would suggest a different member this time.
Reich-wingers are in ecstasy Pakistan. They would LOVE America to follow the Pakistan's model: dismiss the supreme court, suspend the constitution, invoke marshall law, destroy democracy, etc.
He's got NOTHING! The Emperor's Water Boy is as naked as he is.
Pathetic Moron!
Physically ill? No, more like nauseating. Vampire Kristol and Juan Williams are certainly not fit nor qualified to talk about American foreign policies since both of these clowns never served a lick in the military. And Fox News Sunday are certainly working hard for their money supplied by the Administration.
Pinochet and Marcos - Pillars of democracy and proof positive that the United States is a bringer of freedom to all who obey.
Oh, right.
When sensible people were asking 'What about Osama? What about Pakistan?', Bloody Bill was busy cheerleading for Iraq. He's got no credibility here, not even when cast in the light of 'Chile and the Philippines,' which are vastly different countries and were conducted in different eras. Democracy is not a One Size Fits All suit you pick up at WalMart.
This is like me claiming a low pair is more valuable because someone else held a full house in last Friday's game. (Well, I suppose you could could create an interesting rule variation among friends ...)
You can pay to get a star named. Can we start naming black holes?
`In the meantime, some real news reporting.
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/201.html
Spell-check! Shouldn't that be PNAC/Weakly Substandard?
Chile. Another infamous September 11. Yes, what a bright, shining day that was for our CIA. /sarcasm off
Arrogance and stupidity are a dangerous combination.
I want some of the crap Bill is smoking
Thing is, Kristol never really answered Juan's question. American perspective complex question gets answered with a how we should have handled countries. No answer on our own (for a large part of the population) insular views in this place?
Is Kristol (last time I saw a mouth like that, it had a hook in it) suggesting CIA depose Musharaff in a coup?
a la Allende?
Chile and the Philippines. You mean the countries where we supported either corrupt and inept politicians like Marcos, or where we supported Pinochet who disappeared thousands of his own citizens among other heinous crimes. It wasn't the U.S. that reformed those countries; that came from within. Chile still hates the CIA for what we did there, even though they are the most stable democracy in S.A., again no thanks to the U.S.
Dictatorship For Dummies.
ralph @ 7:
A black hole is a gravitational anomaly from which even light cannot escape, sucking in everything around it.
Kristol is more properly a neutron star, where the core is extremely dense and heavy.
Kristol isn't a moron - he's just a lying sack of shit. He does it by changing the subject or ignoring inconveniences.
I know why Faux News has him on - the entire operation is built on lies. What I don't understand is why other cable news outlets and the networks give him air time to spew his dreck.
Yo' Billy! How about if you and Georgie and all the rest spend some of your brilliance bringing Real Democracy right here to the good ol' US of A ? !!!
Think of how great it would be if, for instance, the "People" here actually had a say in their own government; if elections were not corrupted as well as the creeps who run for office; and if the "elected representatives" actually did what was in the best interests of the country and not protecting their own, parochial financial interests and job retention. Wow, what a concept.
Gore is going to become a venture capitalist. How leftist of him.
hey nicole, you're gonna love , I think I made a new discovery concerning the PNAC as it relates to fascism and fascists and holy CROW
you are NOT going to believe THIS!
I was reading wiki on mussilini, possibly the father of fascism and he claims to even have invented the word...here is a quote of his, bolds are MINE;
Fascist century.
If the nineteenth century was the century of the individual (liberalism implies individualism) we are free to believe that this is the,’collective’ century, and therefore the century of the State.
hey look, I know this MIGHT be coincidental but the does anyone ELSE see the reference?
to wit;
project for a new american centiury
oh man, did I just discover something?
He has the audacity to mention Chile? Well, Ann Coulter and Bill Kristol were spawned in the dame Petri Dish. If only we had better environmental controls in our laboratories these two would have been contained before they had a chance to contaminate discourse on this planet.
Kristol's the Architect of this whole mess. Why this guy hasn't been tarred and feathered in Rockefeller Center Square is amazing.
L.A. Confidential @ 23:
watch krystol with that little smirk whenever he's about to hit with some propaganda
from the first time I ever saw him my interpretation was "I can't believe I am actually going to say this and they are actually going to respond as if it has any credibility"
he knows he's lying and you can see it everytime in that smirk
Kristol's "predictions" are based on Michael Bay movies where everything is black and white...or his case, everyone is brown and white.
Chile and the Philippines.. pfft. What a joke. First, America never supported the Marxist candidate that was democratically elected in Chile back in 1970. Secondly, the people kicked Marcos' ass out of the Philippines in 1989. Marcos' ties to the USA are nothing to be proud of.
But naturally, the conscum can't bring up Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea, Vietnam or Cuba, for obvious reasons.
The reality is: America hasn't brought home a real victory since WWII and we didn't get the gold in Europe either. We can't even take credit for the destruction of the Berlin Wall.
Chile and Philippines became democracies IN SPITE of US foreign policy, not because of it. Christ on a crutch! No wonder Kristol is always wrong about everything, He truly is an idiot. Neither Chile or the Philippines were Communist. The Philippines were a US protectorate for Chrissakes! Encroaching communism was the EXCUSE we used to put Pinochet in power. The
Anaconda company was worried about their copper mines and unions. Remember, that was when the big red scare was the old islamofacism. Everything was justified by the threat of communism.
Max Power @ 15:
Very well said. This is what progressives, the very few of them that are allowed to appear on television should do, which is to pound these pro-war advocates with these inconvenient facts. Norman Solomon's book War Made Easy also makes reference to the governments of those countries that the U.S., through the C.I.A., has attempted to subvert. Trying to impose democracy upon another country at the point of a gun has never proved to be very popular for the citizens whose countries the U.S. has decided to illegally interfere.
Let the history books be revised
Pinochet = friendly autocrat *
Marcos = friendly autocrat *
*Friendly Autocrat = Open to American enterprises like military bases, Disney, Coca-Cola, Pepsi, McDonalds etc and in no way should imply "friendliness" to the people that are actually governed by "friendly autocrat."
What a shame that millions of Americans refuse to learn
or admit we have supported dictators all over the world
in the name of democracy. We are basically good people
but the propaganda machine that dominates our media
is working well. The list is long but Kristol takes the cake.
At least O'Liely & the rest of the Fox clowns don't
disguise themselves as intelligent. They pander to the
average American with great success while guys like
Kristol go after the rest. Fuck them all.
Bill Kristol is a complete fugging tool. I think he figures he has nothing to lose since his personal space in Hell has already been reserved. His sneer and his weenie voice make my flesh crawl. There should be a national day of celebration when he dies.
Mike @ 30:
See Iran also..
Mr Pelicano @ 5:
My thoughts exactly as I read the drivel from Kristol. Was Williams able to counter that argument? I bet he wasn't. How many governments were overthrown in South America and supported by administrations that trained their brital militaries here in the south east? How many mass graves have been found and people still missing because they disagreed with large corporations taking over their country? And, these guys think they are right. Sheeesh
"This is what progressives, the very few of them that are allowed to appear on television should do, which is to pound these pro-war advocates with these inconvenient facts."
Facts???!!!! What do facts have to do with anything ?!!
Zenrage @ 26:
...and don't forget: Pinochet. After Allende was killed off by a blood thirsty dictator, the US did absolutely nothing... even after Pinochet stepped down, the US still did nothing. It wasn't until about 10-15 years after he stepped down that US did anything, and the first country to arrest and bring charges against him was Spain because he killed several Spanish nationals living in Chile during his brutal regime.
exit7a @ 12:
No, trust me, you don't. He's still smoking all the shit the Beatles wouldn't smoke from Sgt. Peppers'. He's got the bad shit no one else wants or does. But hey, don't let me tell you what you want or don't want, ,man. I'm not gonna lay that trip on you.
How much is Fox paying Juan? I can't imagine it's enough to put up with smart-ass bullshit from someone with a track record as abysmal as Kristol's.
Just once I'd like to hear Juan say: "Bill, you're awfully smug for someone who's never been right about anything. Ever. Instead of making another lame-ass prediction based on wishful thinking, why not just STFU?! Seriously, dude, you're embarrassing."
Yep, Bill, "the last fifty years" have been a disaster...Led mostly by Republican administrations. Hmmmm. Interesting.
Bill Crystal's credibility goes about as far as the Fox News Exit. Only in the modern media bubble to proven losers constantly get rewarded with a big microphone.
Zenrage @ 26:
But America gets the gold in brinkmanship, and democracy promotion - for who they want to win. I think that's what they mean by democracy promotion...
The Reality @ 20:
Making money is not "leftist"?
I still can't believe Bill Kristol hasn't been called on the carpet as the most dangerous "human" in America by beltway insiders, the inept MSM, and the every day American.
"We’re going to have a very dicey job in the next few months of managing—as we did successfully in places like Chile and the Philippines—a transition from a sort of friendly autocrat to a more stable, democratic system."
Of course, it was necessary to actually *create* those "friendly autocrats" first so we could "manage" the transition to democracy.
Is there no lie these people won't tell or piece of history they won't rewrite? By their lights I'm sure that the current Vietnamization of our country (you know, destroying it in order to save it) is necessary, successful and heroic.
Whenever I see a clip from Faux News, it's not news, but one or more talking heads expressing
theirRupert Murdoch's oppinion or view.Dr. Matt @ 41:
If its done by supporting polluting/genocide-inducing/warmongering then no, it isnt. And those are the only types of businesses that operate in the US so that about settles it.
But feel free to rant about democrats right to doublespeak while bombing innocent women and children and condoning torture. Its not like US democrats have ever been anything but a murderous bunch. Dont believe me, check the Vietnam war, or the bombings in Balkans, Somalia, etc.
Old Smug Billy K usually is paired up against some ineffectual wimp. I think Fox News have some kind of signal under the desk to notify Juan when he starts to show a backbone. Either that or he knows what he has to do to get the money. If he dares say something, he quickly backs down or laughs it off. There might as well be a puppy sitting there arguing with Old Bloody Bill.
I'm sick of Kristol getting jobs at Time Magazine and other places. He's always wrong but the "Village" in the beltway thinks he sounds "tough"
The Reality @ 45:
The other "person" ranting is you. Provide your proof for Gore's support for polluting/genocide-inducing/warmongering. We are waiting....
The Reality @ 45:
So, you only have a hissy fit if the Democratic Party are somehow linked to war, torture, etc? LOL. Talk about "doublespeak"....
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William the Bloody: " American foreign policy has been a horrible failure for the last fifty years. "
William the Bloody and the neocons have been giving the foreign policy advise and acting on it for the better part of half of the last 50 years and have spear headed all of the foreign policy over the past 6 years. I think we can see why American foreign policy has been a horrible failure. Glad to see William the Bloody admits it.
Bill Kristol and the neocons just make it up as they go along. inventing history, that is a small matter.
One last comment regarding William the Bloody's "American foreign policy has been a horrible failure for the last fifty years. " comment.
5 of the last 7 US presidents were Republican. 12 years Democrat to 28 years Republican. I'm surprised William the Bloody didn't say it was all Bill Clinton's fault.
I think "william the bloody" needs to run for president on the repug side. He would be the answer for the ignorant, bone headed 25% that think we are invincible around the world. he would be the spokesperson for the narrow minded, simple-solution-to-every-problem idiots that really think the US is the best thing that has ever screwed with their governments. What an asshat!!
Such a smug, loser. He hasn't been right on ONE THING..and yet they still have this neocon fascist slime-ball on as a "voice of reason". Joke of jokes. This whole panel, minus Juan Williams, are a bunch of fascist goons. I honest to God, want them to be ALL be held responsible for their crimes of lying to the public in a venue of news to this country. They are despicable!!
Why would anybody with any intelligence at all listen to this typical Faux dribble and lies??
Ruthless People @ 53:
He meant to say, "American foreign policy has been a horrible failure for the last fifty years, ESPECIALLY during the 12 years of Democratic presidencies. In fact, the reason why American foreign policy was a horrible failure during the 28 years of Republican presidencies is due to 12 years of Democratic presidencies...especially Clinton...and, oh, um, moveon.org, codepink, NYT, liberal media, errr, ahhh, Soros! and, ah, Global warming,....hoax, NBC, secular progressives, ....damned liberal hollywood! ....fight them over there so we don't uh, well.....9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11...."
Dr. Matt @ 56:
Obviously Kristol-nacht has conveniently forgotten Jimmy Carter, who in the diplomatic realm was world class compared to the crude and inept neocon Troglodytes of today. They know nothing and care little about the patience and tact required for effective diplomacy and moreover, can't even do war right. What a group of inept buffoons.
Dr. Matt @ 48:
This sounds like a continuation of last week's sock puppetry, where various and sundry took the 'you're progressive, so if you indulge in name-calling, you're hypocrites' line for a test drive. So we're supposed to believe that all democrats, particularly Al Gore, must be Birkenstock-wearing hippies living in a commune ... and that if that's not true, then the underlying concepts of Democratic policy must be equally invalid.
Frankly, it's from the same well as 'Al Gore has an energy bill more than twice that of the average American household' and 'Obama isn't black enough' and 'Hillary laughs funny' ... it's making the argument about externals instead of policies.
Expect a reply that continues the laundry list of Democratic evils, asserts that the poster isn't a conservative, and ladles out a generous helping of concern trollage.
Shadowgm @ 58:
Reich-wingers circular "logic" is quite dizzying. In one breath, they claim libruls are limo passenger elitists, next they claim libruls are tree hugging, VW driving, smelly hippies, next they claim libruls are communists, then they claim libruls are fascists, then they claim they are socialists...then they claim libruls are murderers, then they claim libruls are peace loving wimps.... Their constant inability to correctly label the left and inability to recognize that these tags/labels are incompatible is PROOF that reich-wingers really do lack common-sense, intelligence, and the ability to think independently.
Dr. Matt @ 56:
Yeah - the SICKEST thing about that all? Kristol(nacht) holds up Chile as an example of a mistake in American Policy!
The American sponsored overthrow of Allende in CHILE happened exactly WHEN?
SEPTEMBER 11th, 1970!!!!!
Yup - that's the day where the CIA, in cahoots with ITT and Anaconda Copper, helped Salvadore Allende become the first democratically elected leader to commit suicide by shooting himself in the back with a submachine gun from 20 paces, pausing only once to reload.
9/11 is a sorry day for the Chileans... and Kristol's appropriation of Chile as an example of an american failure to sponsor democracy is INSANE and ORWELLIAN.
I think it was Lenny Bruce that said he felt sorry for America after the Cold War is over, because then we'd have nothing to attack but each other.
Frizzlebear @ 60:
Maybe he was cleaning it and it went off* ...
/snark
* Reference to an episode of the British SF series, 'Blake's 7' ... they're searching for a scientist and they find him lying face down over his desk/lab table, with a knife stuck between his shoulder blades. One crewmember says, "Rather awkward way to commit suicide," and another quips, "Perhaps he was cleaning it and it went off."
Chile and Phillipines as successful US foreign policy? Sure, from a facist-imperialist perspective. Can someone (I guess you gotta be a little more clear Juan) ask Mr. Jingofacist how helping to install a dictator and using the Chilean economy as a testing ground for Milton Friedman-style shock treatment, oh and throw in ruthless torture and murdering of those who may or may not disagree with this style of government is successful policy? Listening to Kristol espouse about the successes of US foreign policy is like listening to Hitler try to convert people to vegetarnism for ethical reasons.
Ron Paul said it best when asked about Musharraf.
"NO MORE MONEY PAL!!"
Fox Neocon News gives snakes like Kristol a platform, the top boss Rupert is a well known Zionist sympathizer. Why don't people call a spade a spade? This isn't American news it's right-wing Israeli news dressed in red white and blue, when will people finally wake up? There are only two ultimate solutions either fairness laws will have to be passed again, or the channel will be boycotted and driven out of business, this madness can't go on.
But if Mush goes who's going to torture for Billy? Huh Billy?
Dr. Matt @ 42:
He doesn't qualify as human. But in his category, he still has to beat the VP
Why do I keep picturing some kind name Shecky, with a circus tent for a suit, shoving a battered cigar in and out of his frog like mouth braying, "JT, baby, this kid is out of sight, you gotta hire him before CW grabs him away from you!"
Dr. Matt @ 59:
Nether is nothing logical about the circle the Rightwingers display, if anything their circles are more of the "jerk" persuasion.
I think conservatives have only a single MO: have their cake and eat it too.
Bill Kristol is still the same chickenshit, chickenhawk, warmongering, moron. Some things will never change.
Kristol is a certified idiot. He is one of the few people on earth which creates a visceral response in me, just by living on the same planet. It has been decades since I last committed an act of violence. But, I would love to slap that grin right off of his face.
Last time I've seen a grin like william krystol(nact) was on an infant having gas problems.
I wonder what a debate between willy the bedwetter and George Carlin would be like?
Moderated by Bill Maher.
I got news for Billy "the fucking retard" Kristol, the current repukes can barely manage their own bowels and bladders, let alone some other country....
How longer before someone outs Kristol for being with a male hooker.
oh, I think the CIA trained ISI is doing a good enough job in Pakistan already. Pakistan is just another country the US has been ruining for the last 50 odd years.
Actually, Chile was already a democracy prior to US intervention. It took them 17 years to get it back...
So no, US intervention did not make Chile into a democracy
Frizzlebear @ 60:
It takes a very special set of brass balls for an American like Kristol, to open his fucking mouth and with a straight face say how Chile's democracy returned because of the US of A. I guess if there is something as American as apple pie is to take credit for other people's hard work, and to turn a blind eye to their own fuck ups.
I guess the name Kissinger, as a fellow nazi jew, must be of no historical consequence for Kristol regarding Chile. The irony of it all would be funny, however countless scores of people have died. And it is also a sad commentary on the stupidity of this society as a whole, which seems to display a lack of memory only rivaled by them fruit flies. The fact that no one sets these assholes straight in real time whenever they open their mouth, allows the neo-cons to frame the debate and rewrite history to serve their purpose. Newspeak in action, I guess...
fwacbar @ 75:
Given how Kristol was the brain, errr... chief of staff, of Quayle. I really doubt that comes as a surprise to him. In fact, he is part of the fucking problem.
The fact that a jackass like Kristol, who was discredited way back with Quayle, and who has been wrong on every fucking issue he has expressed an opinion, still gets a platform to speak is beyond words.
We are truly fucked as a society, the insane have now managed to siege control of the asylum...
The U.S government seems to be on the right side, on the side of the people of Pakistan who want a “more democratic path.” I was born in South Asia where corruption seems to be an ‘acceptable’ part of governments. Unfortunately the people are the ones who suffer. The people of Pakistan are standing up and speaking out. Although I hope the protests weren’t so violent. I recently came across a website about Estonia’s Singing Revolution – http://singingrevolution.com; an inspirational story of Estonians coming together to revolt against the Russians, who controlled Estonia as recently as 1991.
The question about feeling ill when smirking Kristol begins regurgitating is easily answered. No. Because I don't watch him, because I have no television. What makes me ill, personally, is that such utter fools can become so important in the USA ( I read his column occasionally, and usually could not make it through one, because the man has nothing to say). Ever since the 1930s, I suspect after the Monkey Trials and after the big victory of FDR, the radical right in the USA has sought some form of "intellectual" structure. They have come up with quasi-brainy opportunists like Kristol, madmen like Perle and Wolfowitz, parochial old school marms like Bolton, and of the corrumpati like .... not enough space to mention them all...
I will not watch this claptrap either. Like cigarettes, you don't have to try them to find out they stink.
The dough boy. The f*ckin' dough boy.
ysbaddaden @ 61:
Oh yeah! One thing is for sure: America LOVES to fight.
Kristol lives by the credo " If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with bullsh*t."
The current campaign of distraction, seems to be proceeding nicely. The events in Pakistan are being controlled so as to give the returning "Benazir Bhutto" the time she needs to establish an acceptable replacement for Musharraf. Musharraf's time has ran it's course, but the powers that controlled him will also control Bhutto....now who could that be?
Ashfaq? I don't need to say anything, do I...?
Mr Pelicano @ 5:
Kissinger, Nixon and CIA worked overtime to overthrow Allende in Chile (who wasn't a communist) so that Pinochet could operate as their Chicago School privatization meat puppet in South America. This ultimately drove Chile, Argentina, Uruguay and Brazil into the arms of the World Bank and IMF causing them to have to hand over their natural resources to the USA in order to pay off their "debts." Milton Friedman, who the Repugs would probably like to put on Mt. Rushmore with Ronald Reagan didn't care one whit about communists, fascists or totalitarians so long as they didn't or don't impact the bottom line. Republicans (the neocon variety anyway) care very little for anyone or anytihing other than themselves. Assholes like Kristol (who generally looks like he's grinning because he's wearing a butt plug) are perfect examples of those who have sacrificed humanity on the alter of the almighty dollar. which, btw, is tanking. Welcome to 1929 folks! Thanks for listening to my rant. I'm in a baaaaad mood today.
It is amazing to listen to these NeoCons like Kristol defend what we did in Chile... They WERE a democracy before Henry (War Criminal) Kissinger & Nixon help overthrow Allende.
I wonder if the 'War Criminal' ever visit Chile again...
Hume "He screwed up". Hey Brit how about Bush screwed up making a deal with a shifty character?
wanker.
Funny thing is, Musharraf had already planned on holding those elections anyway. The international pressure only managed to make him hold them earlier !
Here's Juan talking about them.
You'll notice, if you follow Juan's link, that CNN deleted the story. Apparently it's important to push the myth that the US actually made Pakistan hold elections.
Also
So basically, Bush is getting credit for being lenient with Musharraf. Even though the real pressure comes from us europeans.
Kristol: Read "The Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein to see how "well" we helped transition Chile to "democracy".....after assassinating Allende, and how many thousands of people tortured and "disappeared"!!!!
I can't say anything further., I just can't. YOU ARE A LIAR, A MONSTER AND A FACIST!
I can't believe this guy would even pretend that the Philippines is a democracy. The horribly corrupt and much despised Arroyo was "elected" by the Supreme Court, not the people... Oh wait, I guess it is a democracy by American standards.
The Maestro observes: "Anyone else feel physically ill whenever Bill Kristol smirks his way through another FOXNews Sunday panel? " Damn! This is a theme I have been harping on for ages now, and you act like you just discovered it? (Shrill Pistol must have been reading my comments b/c he at least went out and bought some new neckties so he could avoid criticism he's anal retentive for wearing the same old pattern tie week after week on this rigged crypto-wingnut program.) I mentioned on this site months ago how Pistol smirks at Juan Williams, and how the cameraman has been instructed to cut to Pistol's smirk when Juan Williams, the usual Fox Noise token liberal, takes Snit Hume to task for the latter's often outrageously fascist remarks. Now, you act like you're the only guy who's picked up on it -- NOT. They even stack the cards worse than usual because both Juan and Marred Eyeasson are identified as Public Radio pundits/newshounds so that Marred's chickenshit moderate comments tend to show what a "radical" Juan is. I watch this show religiously b/c it epitomizes everything wrong with what Burdock, Roger Ailments, and all the rest of the loonies at Fox stand for. And although Keith Olbermann rightly points to the hypocrisy of Fox Noise diatribing on sex perversion in America even as they pander soft X footage in the background, neither Olbermann nor his guest picked up on the fact that Burdock has been doing this since he left Australia, bought up a couple of London tabloids, and remade them to include centerfold vixens as a daily feature. At least he knows sex sells. But, I digress....Wish you would give credit where it's due, lol. Not that you actually read ALL of these comments.
The thing that is soooo nauseating is that he talks about Pakistan as if it's a posession, like we own it.
Other wonerful quotes from Biily boy Kristol.
"Very few wars in American history were prepared better or more thoroughly than this one by this President".
or
"There's a certain amount of pop sociology in America that the Shia can't get along with the Sunni and the Shia in Iraq just want to establish some kind of Islamic Fundamentalist regime. There's almost no evidence of that at all. Iraqs always been very secular".
or
"George Bush's presidency will probably be a succesful one".
Sigh...How many times does that mental midget need to strike out before the manager (news media)stops putting him in the line up?
VegasRage @ 88:
You completely missed it. Brittany didn't think Musharraf screwed up by overthrowing his own constitution, he just didn't imprison the right people. Brittany is all for destroying constitutions and overturing elections, as long as you throw the commoners in prison and not the upper class. What a fucking pig.
Then there was KKKrystal spouting the drivel that only few mindless trolls could possibly conceive:
"I think the good news on Pakistan is that the President has pushed Musharraf hard."
"Pakistan is the swing state in the war against Islamic jihadism. We are going to be OK in Iraq.
Iran is very difficult, that's not going to change."
I haven't been privy to the pushing that KKKrystal is talking about, but I do know that GW is still backing what is going on there. Money has not and will not be withheld. Thats lots of cash. Nearly $1Bn every week.
As for Pakistan being a swing state, it seems KKKrystal is dumb enough to believe the world is a rigged election in the US. All we have to do is support the illegal usurpation of the Pakistani constitution and BINGO we have 4 more years. Sorry dumb ass, but it doesn't work that way. Oh, by the way, not sure what DOD briefings you've been smoking, but we are NOT going to be OK in Iraq. Not that you would admit that even if there were hueys landing in the green zone to evac the last Marines. Sick sad fuck.
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