Always found Olbermann to be a self important jackass.

That being said, I couldnt agree with him more than I do about this......

What other bottom feeders attended John Bolton's book party. Lucianne Goldberg?

Wow...Olbermann gains more and more respect from me daily...Awesome KO!!! Keep up the good work!!

i have said it before, and i repeat it now--as it seems apropos--to the civilian leadership at the pentagon, to the far right ideologues, to the american imperialists and to the bush admin: our troops are seen as nothing but a commodity to be bought (recruited) and sold (killed).

our all "volunteer" army has been abused and misused with only hypocritical lip-service paid to them by the govt and the corporations, that profit off of their sacrifice. our soldiers do not fight on behalf of freedom nor democracy. no, they fight for increased corporate profits, market share, resource extraction, privatization and market fundamentalism. their sacrifice, their service, their honor has been exploited to help corporations, who, in turn, show their gratitude by out-sourcing jobs and massive lay-offs.

it must be strenuously noted that this is NOT a critique of the armed forces. it is a critique of US foreign policy, the pentagon-corporate complex and the folly that is neoliberalism and neoconservatism.

You know, I am beginning to think there is some motive here to drive recruitment down so low that we have to depend more and more on Blackwater. Am I becoming a paranoid conspiracy theorist?

14All @ 13:

You know, I am beginning to think there is some motive here to drive recruitment down so low that we have to depend more and more on Blackwater. Am I becoming a paranoid conspiracy theorist?

Yes

Jay @ 7:

Left&Left @ 5:

Tom Delay bitch slapping Krugman? How about breathing on him you tiny,alcoholic, lying, (soon to be washing big black Tyrone's drawns in the gray bar hotel) mother fucker!

Have to call you on this comment, simply because you use the moniker Left&Left, yet make a statement perpetuating a stereotype about African Americans in prison.... Interesting.

What "stereotype"?

14All @ 13:

You know, I am beginning to think there is some motive here to drive recruitment down so low that we have to depend more and more on Blackwater. Am I becoming a paranoid conspiracy theorist?

I'd have to say... "Yes".

Anytime something gets that complicated; you have to start becoming very skeptical of seeing malicious intent in it. Its not to say its not *possible* - but it becomes more and more unlikely the further down the rabbit hole you get.

I thought the new Secretary of Defense, Gates, was supposed to be the White Knight, the antithesis to Rummy. Is this the way to run a Defense Department?

Why not just charge all wounded soldiers with desertion, leaving a battlefield 'Without Authorization', and shoot them, thus saving all the expenses of treating them, paying them disability, and eliminating all future claims?

Heckova job, Bobbsie. You ass*ole.

So good that you post the video on a loop twice. Good stuff Keith & C&L

IgnoranceIsNotBliss @ 3:

So much for the "Support The Troops" meme. Assholes.

Indeed.

Yesterday we spent a great deal of time discussing Keith Olbermann saying that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez pisses on his people. I was waiting for a retraction from Keith on last night's show. No such retraction or clarification came. So I can only assume that Keith stands by that comment. I love Keith and think he's not only a great newsman but a national hero. That much said he was wrong about Hugo Chavez. Its hard to believe he bought into a right-wing talking point. He should know better. His silence on this matter disappoints me.

KO the Clown @ 27:

It quite comical watching the left wings hack on this site posting laudatory comments regarding the jock sniffer turned news guy. Keep up the bad er... I mean good work there Olby.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18574736/

OLBERMANN: And one other note today. The ultimate premise of the war in Iraq and the ultimate premise, certainly, of the Republican presidential campaign ahead, counterterrorism. The FBI claims it has broken up a plot to attack Fort Dix in New Jersey. The flaw, though, in the breathless reporting of the purported terror cell, the bureau infiltrated the six-person group after its members took video of themselves practicing with assault weapons, brought the tape to a photo store, and had it transferred to a DVD.
The details of the supposed plot don't seem to hold together that well either, though that did not stop extensive and entirely credulous coverage on TV, the Internet, in print today. The men supposedly had plans to gain access to the base disguised as pizza delivery guys, then cut the power somehow, they, quote, "hit four, five, or six Humvees and light the whole place, and retreat without any losses." And take the tape of yourselves practicing and have it copied at PhotoMat. In other words, the FBI has arrested six morons.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/10/31/fortdix.plot.ap/
Guilty plea in Ft. Dix plot

CAMDEN, New Jersey (AP) -- A man pleaded guilty on Wednesday to providing weapons to a group of men accused of plotting an attack on Fort Dix.
Agron Abdullahu faces up to five years in prison for providing weapons to men accused in plot.

Agron Abdullahu, 25, faces up to five years in federal prison when he is sentenced February 6.
Federal prosecutors have portrayed the New Jersey resident as having the smallest role among the six men arrested earlier this year in the case. While the others are charged with conspiring to kill military personnel -- a crime punishable by life in prison -- Abdullahu was charged only with weapons offenses.
Authorities said that while Abdullahu provided weapons to the other men, he resisted the idea of participating in an attack. The government said that he told the others at one point that it would be against Islam to kill civilians and that it would be "crazy" to attack the military installation.
Authorities said the men scouted out East Coast military installations to find one to attack but settled on Fort Dix largely because one of them knew his way around from delivering pizzas to the base for his father's restaurant.
The installation was not attacked, and the other five men have pleaded not guilty. They are scheduled to go on trial in January.

If you're trying to assert that there was a credible plot and significant danger to Fort Dix personnel from the pizza delivery arm of al-Qaeda, you failed.

Olbermann reports on yet another 'OMG! T3rR0R1$t!' moment from the FBI, reduced to the laughable by the fact that these guys duplicated a videotape of their practice run at a commercial establishment.

Besides, if the rest of the 'war on terror' meme is true, I'd like to think there's a little more stringent access control to a military base than, "Yo, someone ordered a pizza."

Oh, and let's not forget that the FBI failed to notice Ms. Prouty, who was busy checking intel for mention of her Hezbollah-connected family members.

Jay @ 15:

Left&Left @ 14:

Jay@7 Read this my friend. I am an African American. My comments concerning Delay stand because I don't have a past that I should feel guilty about. Get tougher! we liberals will need to be.

I'm not a liberal, but thanks for the clarification....

You needed someone else to clarify you're not a liberal?

As a vet, it is impossible for me to understand how anybody in uniform can vote for a Republican. People in uniform are nothing to the GOPers but a piece of garbage, to be used, killed, maimed discarded and forgotten. While GOPers (and corporatist Democrats) are in charge, our warriors don't fight for America, they fight for Exxon-Mobile, Haliburton, GE, ad nauseaum, who collectively are the true axis of evil, the true epicenter of injustice in the world. And, the corporate world has no conscience nor even the beginnings of the shadiest understanding of what duty or loyalty are.

don't hate me @ 28:

Yesterday we spent a great deal of time discussing Keith Olbermann saying that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez pisses on his people. I was waiting for a retraction from Keith on last night's show. No such retraction or clarification came. So I can only assume that Keith stands by that comment. I love Keith and think he's not only a great newsman but a national hero. That much said he was wrong about Hugo Chavez. Its hard to believe he bought into a right-wing talking point. He should know better. His silence on this matter disappoints me.

Agree. Either Keith hasn't thoroughly researched this, or Keith hasn't thoroughly researched this to give all sides of the story. On a similar note, Chavez surely has a downside for the people of Venezuela, pleased as we are with his refreshing outspokenness and hope he can pull a hand to rid the u.s. and the world of the gang of 8 (or is it 3 or so) since we can't seem to do a fucking thing about it ourselves without a revolution. Where can we get the whole story? I wonder.

What Paul said!

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Thanks so little for the paranoid fear mongerers perspective. There is medication that will help you with that disease.

14All @ 10:

You know, I am beginning to think there is some motive here to drive recruitment down so low that we have to depend more and more on Blackwater. Am I becoming a paranoid conspiracy theorist?

No you're not paranoid... Jay on comment 12 should realize that privatizing everything associated with war is a business plan that is working very well for those in the know. An admin that pisses on the constitution and its citizens civil rights would indeed love a private thug army that could bypass all laws. Of course that's what's going on and people like Jay will only realize it in the near future when he has to lift his sack and cough at the blackwater checkpoint near his hometown.

I've seen documentary's where New Orleans said Blackwater were there before the regular troops, and the first thing they set up were checkpoints and martial law.

Right wing 'logic': "Hey, Bush has got to make up that $50 billion somehow, since congress hasn't agreed to give it to him."

Give it to him carte blanche, they mean.

Right wing ‘logic’: “Hey, Bush has got to make up that $50 billion somehow, since congress hasn’t agreed to give it to him.”

Give it to him carte blanche, they mean.

The Dems have given Bush the money. Bush refusses to take it because of an attached withdraw deadline.

Which I stand with the deadline.

Guy in PDX @ 45:

Right wing ‘logic’: “Hey, Bush has got to make up that $50 billion somehow, since congress hasn’t agreed to give it to him.”

Give it to him carte blanche, they mean.

The Dems have given Bush the money. Bush refusses to take it because of an attached withdraw deadline.

Which I stand with the deadline.

I know they've given it to him and that it's the reichwingers who are claiming they haven't.

I posted this yesterday when the fallout from this went down twenty minutes later on Live w/Dan Abrams....
C&L if you can dig up the Abrams interview to accompany this that would be great. I cant look since Im at work right now, so no video of any kind for me.

Sheer, blatant, and despicable politics played out for about twenty minutes on live tv.

On WPitW the tops was the story of a soldier who was injured in Iraq and sent home; he get a bill in the mail. The Army wants him to pay back part of his enlistment bonus because he did not serve his whole tour(?). ! btw, his mom will be on Countdown tomorrow.
Ten minutes later on LwDA, who dropped Kucinich’s name in amongst the media’s names in an aside during the opening(so, props for that); Abrams was just starting a live interview with Jason Fox, the very soldier billed from the WPitW story.
Just then a “breaking bulletin” came from the pentagon saying he did not have to pay the bill. With it also came a brief note(?), read verbatim by Abrams, mostly vague legal jargon, as you would expect from these jackasses, but ended with a sort of line, and IANAL by any means, but to me it sounded as though the pentagon was questioning the circumstances of the injury! Basically, it sounded like the pentagon sold the soldier out on the river and on live tv. By the way that DA read the line, and the face of the poor kid, who looked like he just got smacked in the face with a ton of bricks, I would say that the line sounded stunning to them too. Remember, if MSNBC is to be trusted, this was all live.

Fox shot back, and pointed the fire in the right direction. (sorry all paraphrased) ‘This is only the beginning’ ,’you know there are thousands like me[getting billed for their sacrifice]’, ‘they are not scared to speak out and will be heard’,'we will bring them home and end this’.(you really just have to see it).

Keep an eye out for more of this story. It was quite compelling to watch as things played out right there.

Ya know I generally perfer news broadcaster that don't swear but when the term is this apt.....

How would Tom Delay know what a "bitch slap" is.

I thought he was a good christian with high family values.

Somebody straighten me out here, or have i lost another hero.