I diaried on DailyKos a few months ago on how "Judeo-Christian" means "Christian." It's a cooption of Judaism by Christians in which most Jews are too fearful to speak up about. But it is insidious and offensive.

If they mean "Christian," they should just say "Christian" and stop doing violence to my religion so they can cover up their own agenda.

jesus called and said quit waging war in his name.

This is the split. The Club For Growth is not a fan of this guy, and he's a nutjob in a number of demonstrable ways. To derail his campaign: continually ask him who Carol Shields is and why she's dead now.

All he can get are the fundy nutjobs, and they are themselves schizo about which candidate to support.

Nuts are religious? I could swear mine were athiests.

Huckabee is seriously going off in a bad direction. When he first emerged on the scene as a presidential candidate I thought he was rather benign. What's really creepy about him is how he can come across as likeable and even endearing to some.

Ted @ 3:

He seems to really be using his Baptist minister card in an attempt to get the religious nuts to follow him instead of anyone else. It scares me that another man could be elected that puts his religion ahead of what is good for the country.

That is why my car has a bumper sticker on it that says Keep YOUR Religion Out Of OUR Government.

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I have a bumpersticker that says "Honk If You Think You're Jesus". In the 21st century, religious consciousness is tantamount to mental illness.

konagod @ 11:

Huckabee is seriously going off in a bad direction. When he first emerged on the scene as a presidential candidate I thought he was rather benign. What's really creepy about him is how he can come across as likeable and even endearing to some.

Benign is about all anyone could hope for in a Repub candidate. Unfortunately, they always come with a lot of malevolent baggage too.

What if he does get the nom? Is there a chance that the club-for-growthers and neo-cons would back him under the assumption that they can "mold" him? My guess is yes. He looks like he'd be in completely over his head and a "strong vice president" might be offered to "coach" him, thereby giving the club-for-growthers and neocons the puppet that they need in front with the puppet-master that they need behind.

You got to love that spiritual ‘warfare’ analogy….it’s so Christ-like, innit?

Indeed. Because when the Roman soldiers came for Jesus Christ that fateful evening, he let loose w/a war whoop, called for his followers to arm themselves, strapped on his armor & his sword & he, oh wait...

First dibs on Hucksters stuff once he's whisked off!

Why is it that 'spiritual rearmament' seems to mean bullets and bombs and supporting boneheads like Huckabee and Tancredo?

Truth is, when these idiot Rapture-bunnies have brought about the apocalypse, the last thing they'll do is accept responsibility for the disasters they've wrought.

I knew it. We atheists are more dangerous than Hitler himself.

That's rich coming from the party that quotes Goebbels in it's official security documentation.

I'm pretty damned sure that Jesus would not be a Republican.

sofla @ 28:

I'm pretty damned sure that Jesus would not be a Republican.

I think he was Judea Liberation Front or People's Liberation Front of Judea. Something like that.

If you think Mike Huckabee is scary, wait til you see his wife, Janet!

If Paula Jones is a two-bagger, Janet requires three.

It is truly baffling to me that Mr. LaHaye and his wife are totally ignorant and obviously unaware of the attack on our Judeo Christian values right here at home, especially in CORRUPT POLITICS>
so it is no surprise, their viewpoint is biased.

Somehow I think Huckabee's desire to get all the inmates at the asylum to endorse him isn't going to make him look any more sane.

The left behinders make the cult that was waiting for the space ship to come take them away look reasonable.

LaHaye isn't much of a history student, is he? America was under attack by Hitler? When exactly was that? We declared war on Germany on Dec. 8, 1941, after being attacked by Japan, and we invaded Europe on June 6, 1944. No German soldier ever set foot on American soil.

Spiritual REarmament by evangelical pastors? When has any evangelical pastor ever been DISarmed spiritually by anyone? What gobbledygook this man spreads!

Eat your heart out, Huckabee, Giuliani just scored a triple endorsement, from

David Berkowitz, John Wayne Gacy, and Richard Ramirez.

Since the reason there is a lot of conflict in the Middle East today is because of the religious muslim fanatics, why do we have to have our own extreme religious group.

The real Muslims in the world today, like the real Christians are appalled at these people waging constant war. And now we have these insidious groups gathering in this country.

They always say if people don't learn from history they are doomed to repeat it. Since we came to this country for freedom "of" religion and freedom "from" religion why are we going to be forced to accept a small minority's concept of what we should and should not believe in. Please.....

Does this endorsement mean if Huckabee doesn't win, he's going to get Raptured? Cause I read that "Left Behind" series, and while most of it was on point biblically, in some areas LaHaye and Jenkins played fast and loose with some storylines, literally altering what the Scriptures meant and also violating those same Scriptures which order that no word of the Bible be altered or changed to fit with man's ideas.

::crickets chirping::

And I lost all respect for LaHaye, considering he can conveniently rationalize his conservative activism that spills over into bigotry and hatred of anyone not white, Christian, and male.

Last I checked, Bush never goes to church.

While the great sinner, Bill Clinton, could be found in church every Sunday when he was in office.

But, because he lied about a blowjob, he had to be subjected to the political version of crucifixion.

Yet everyone likes Bush, because "he's someone you can have a beer with."

My father always taught me to be particular about my drinking buddies... ;-)

I would never want to have a beer with Bush. He would be an insufferable boor.

-GSD

shill on the hill @ 55:

I thought America was a "Christian Nation." Since when do Christian Nations have a Judeo-Christian heritage?

"Christian" nations don't walk around with greed and myopia waiting in line all night to hit the biggest shopping of the year sales like freakin' morons. They don't equate fellow human beings under occupation to terrorists and only mourn the death of "our side" and scream for a bloodthirsy and Phyricc "victory" that is literally bleeding their own nation dry. They don't sneer and ignore the plight of others like this capitalistic backwards nightmare reveals us to be.

"Religion is the opiate of the masses"...who said that again?

Call it Orwellian, call it cognitive dissonance. It's beyond that. It's cold psychosis.

They don't mean Christian or Judeo-Christian. It's a Machiavellian joke.

Nothing that we are doing represents either religion.

AFAIK, Bush does go to church, but probably dons the same 'beneficent leader' mien that he does when standing at ceremonies and other affairs. There was even a bit circulating the web about how he was a 'godly man,' based on some congressional staffer's encounter in church. ('Godly' seems to mean you can muster a smile and a vacant look in your eyes, which isn't much of a challenge for Bush.)

However, the reason I doubt his faith is that it was an excuse - 'he could accept Jesus, and he gets to keep Laura and the girls' (c/f Frontline: The Jesus Factor).

I don't know of anyone who has wrestled with addiction and found recovery simply by saying 'Hallelujah! I'se been saved!' - it takes work (something George is allergic to), some serious soul-searching (something George doesn't do), and rigorous honesty (something George seems incapable of).

Someone needs to make a spoof commercial with Lahey doing an endorsement of Huckabee in the Chuck Norris style. All jesus pow! something.

Just off the wire, another endorsement was announced.

This one ought to really make you spit up, Hucklebuck.

George W. Bush just endorsed.....

Hillary Clinton!, as the candidate 'Most likely to follow my far-sighted policies'.

People like Mike Huckabee and Tim Lahaye, are not basically interested in spiritual matters - they are interested in consolidating political power. Christians should recognize that and exclude these people from religious matters.

You cannot simultaneously be pro-Jesus and pro-war. And anyone with half a brain knows it.

Christians please reign in your "holy war" (that would be the Christian equivalent of "jihad") fanatical fringe.

We don't need Christian rearmament, we don't need Muslim rearmament, we don't need rearmament of ANY kind. In fact it would be great if all the people financing the development and selling of arms to all sides in this conflict (Bank of International Settlements, Chase, etc, - are you listening?) woke the hell up and stopped that crap. I know that won't happen, but it would sure help. You're sucking us all into your well-financed nightmare, you idiots.

What we need to replenish is sanity, honesty, and a desire to do good works by our politicians, corporate CEOs, International Bankers, and Oil Companies.

There's basically no hope for improvement unless we have a show of good will by the International Bankers, major weapons contractors (GE, Raytheon, Westinghouse, etc) and Big Four Oil Companies. So far they haven't come forward with anything except a duplicitous double-speak ad campaign, which this citizen (anyone else besides me?) sees for the lie it truly is.

Don't talk to me about Jesus until you are interested on helping (not killing) your fellow human beings. Until then, you have no cred to talk about a Man of Peace.

And Yet... @ 19:

You got to love that spiritual ‘warfare’ analogy….it’s so Christ-like, innit?

Indeed. Because when the Roman soldiers came for Jesus Christ that fateful evening, he let loose w/a war whoop, called for his followers to arm themselves, strapped on his armor & his sword & he, oh wait...

Who said this?

"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household. He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it." (Matthew 10:34-39 NASB)

And this?

"Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Luke 22:36

Doesn't sound like the cute and cuddly Jesus the moderate Christians adore. Of course, there is also the certifiably insane Jesus:

"Now in the morning, as He returned to the city, He was hungry. 19 And seeing a fig tree by the road, He came to it and found nothing on it but leaves, and said to it, “Let no fruit grow on you ever again.” Immediately the fig tree withered away." Matthew (21:18-19)

Why does God hate figs? (godhatesfigs.com)

People without religion are like fish without bicycles.

Cut it out, gents. The issue is not who spouts what out of where or who knows more than someone else. The issue is we're fighting a corporate fascist menace that has managed to steal several very important constitutional rights from us all, that has destroyed an already weakened nation and profited mightily from the resultant agony it has caused that nation's people.

Keep your eye on the target and stop beating up on each other. ;-)

By the way, I've heard it on very good report that Hitler had only one testicle. Strange to say, however, that doesn't make me hate all men who have one testicle, nor do I ascribe Hitler's evil to his uni-testicular condition. I like to think Hitler was a monumental pile of monkey-doo-doo because he was Hitler, not because he was uni-nutted or Catholic.

Symes @ 87:

Finally.

I will verify.
Just because a book is published does not make it credible, 999 and Magick are excellent examples that fit right along your theme here.

I'll be back to apologize or berate, depending on the veracity of your sources.

That should have read 777, that is the correct name of the book.

Evilbeard @ 89:

“America and our Judeo-Christian heritage are under attack by a force that is more destructive than any America has faced” since Hitler, Dr. LaHaye and his wife, Beverly, wrote

Maybe this is a minor point but I can't help but notice that 'since Hitler' seems to be considered part of the quote but is actually outside the quotation marks. Did Dr. LaHaye actually say 'since Hitler' or was that commentary from the author of the post?

The quote is from the NY Times that the posts reference. Agree that it is curiously worded.

And why are occult sites 'not credible'?

There's more to Christianity than going to church on Sunday and making the sign of the cross, or offering up the right platitudes. While Mein Kampf strongly suggests Hitler was, or considered himself to be, Christian, it does not mean it is so. It seems to me that Hitler drew upon whatever mythology would serve his ends and help secure his power base.

All too similar to President Bush. We know from David Kuo, formerly of the Office of Faith-Based Initiatives, that Mr. Bush's talk of faith-this and faith-that is more shallow than a puddle on Pennsylvania Avenue.

Although much of the evidence linking Crowley and Hitler appears anecdotal, is it reasonable - credible - to believe that Hitler, a man with a strong, perhaps obsessive, interest in the occult, and Crowley, a man with substantial occult credentials, never met and remained unaware of one another?

Symes @ 96:
Speaking of that, you seem pretty insistent on disclaiming Hitler as a practicing Catholic (he did order the Luftwaffe to NOT bomb monasteries and other church buildings, remember?).
You wouldn't happen to be Catholic now, would you?

That's reaching for an ad-hominem.

Perhaps Hitler liked the architecture. ;D

Shadowgm @ 98:

Symes @ 96:
Speaking of that, you seem pretty insistent on disclaiming Hitler as a practicing Catholic (he did order the Luftwaffe to NOT bomb monasteries and other church buildings, remember?).
You wouldn't happen to be Catholic now, would you?

That's reaching for an ad-hominem.

Perhaps Hitler liked the architecture. ;D

Nope, in the interest of disclosure I am atheist.

sharkcellar @ 100:

Yeah you guys need to take your fuckin' Crowley, Blavatsky, Levay, Cayce, Illuminati, talk somewhere else. This issue at hand is the endorsment of a nutbag evangelical presidential contender by a nutbag evangelical author. Wage your wiki battles elsewhere.

And the religious/mystical nutbags of a previous era are irrelevant?

What's the difference between someone like Crowley and someone like LaHaye, excepting the blessings of an organized religion?

Sorry about the messed up quotes, I should have corrected those for you.

The fucking rapture can't happen fast enough for me. The sooner we get rid of these fucking evangelicals, the better off we'll all be.

Ted @ 3:

He seems to really be using his Baptist minister card in an attempt to get the religious nuts to follow him instead of anyone else. It scares me that another man could be elected that puts his religion ahead of what is good for the country.

That is why my car has a bumper sticker on it that says Keep YOUR Religion Out Of OUR Government.

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I'm getting a bumpersticker that says"Hey Huckabee, Jesus may love you but the rest of us think you'rean ASSHOLE"...

I think he'd make an excellent 'third party' candidate. =)

Lakeguy @ 112:

Ted @ 3:

He seems to really be using his Baptist minister card in an attempt to get the religious nuts to follow him instead of anyone else. It scares me that another man could be elected that puts his religion ahead of what is good for the country.

That is why my car has a bumper sticker on it that says Keep YOUR Religion Out Of OUR Government.

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I'm getting a bumpersticker that says"Hey Huckabee, Jesus may love you but the rest of us think you'rean ASSHOLE"...

Huckabee talks to Jesus on a cell phone...how cool is that?!
:D

Huckabee worries me more the RP ever did.
RP just wants to drag us back to 1786, Huckabee wants to kick us screaming back to the 12th century.

And enough of the religious wrong thinks he's great to make him a threat.

We don't need another protestant huckster in a leadership position.

Also, when he's asked a question like if he believes in creationism, he dances around it and says something funny...to throw everyone off...

D.G. Bowman @ 127:

The only good thing I can say about Huckabee?

He took the initiative to lose a lot of weight. He went from Mr. Creosote to a marathoner.

I thought he lost the weight at a Democratic concentration camp.

Is it me or does Huckabee bring up nazis as much as Giuliani does 9/11?

Lahaye is the most "discernment free" person on the planet. Lahaye wouldn't know Satan if he, if he, well, if he was taking money from him.

Bo Hi Pak, a longtime [Sun Myung] Moon operative, gave ACTV $10,000, and LaHaye subsequently agreed to serve on the board of directors of Moon's own Religious Right group, Christian Voice. LaHaye also joined the board of another Moon front, the Council for Religious Freedom (CRF), which was formed primarily as a vehicle to protest Moon's 1984 imprisonment after he was convicted of filing false tax returns and obstructing justice.
[ If Best-Selling End-Times Author Tim LaHaye Has His Way, Church-State Separation Will Be...Left Behind - Rob Boston - AU - Feb. 2002]

Lahaye sent a letter to Moon's top operative - The entire letter can be found here

excerpt:

Once again, my friend, I am in your debt for your generous help to our work. You don't know how timely it was! This move and reorganization of the whole ministry to free me for more time in Washington and ACTV [American Coalition for Traditional Values] activities has been extremely expensive, much more so than I originally thought. But I see daylight down the road and feel it is part the Master's plan. As soon as I can afford it, I plan to hire a PR firm to give more coverage for ACTV, get our message to the people. ["Unholy Alliance" by Carolyn Weaver - Mother Jones - January, 1986]

Moon spent a year in jail for tax evasion and obstruction of justice. LaHaye visited him in prison. Did Lahaye ask Moon to repent, stop his blasphemous claims that Jesus was a failure and try to "save" Moon?

NO!!! Lahaye took it upon himself to apologize to Moon on behalf of the American people and government for being persecuted by the U.S. government. Here is how Bo Hi Pak, Moon's aforementioned political operative, told the story of LaHaye's visit with Moon at the Danbury correction facility:

During the drive, Dr. LaHaye said, "It is incredible what our government did to Reverend Moon, to confine Reverend Moon in this kind of place." When we got to Danbury, he met Father, who was wearing humble prison clothes. He held Father's hands and the first words Dr. LaHaye spoke were, "Reverend Moon, I apologize on behalf of my government." Mother saw that Dr. LaHaye's eyes were red and he was crying. What a beautiful union, a beautiful union of brothers, like Esau and Jacob. Father and Dr. LaHaye were embracing. [Chapter 45 Mount Danbury- Belvedere Estate - Tarrytown, New York - Feb. 3, 1985 - Bo Hi Pak - Truth is My Sword, Volume II ]

Thrombosis @ 131:

Lahaye is the most "discernment free" person on the planet. Lahaye wouldn't know Satan if he, if he, well, if he was taking money from him.

And LaHaye apparently wasn't paying attention to the good Reverend when he claimed HE was God's new emissary - i.e., Christ's replacement.

Shadowgm @ 130:

Chopvac @ 117:

2) The "Left Behind" books are half-assed garbage. (Get it? Left behind? Half assed?)

The 'Left Behind' concept is just plain weird. The Rapture takes place, but God somehow leaves a bunch of hardass Christian warriors behind to fight the good fight against the Antichrist, who has taken over the world.

So, ultimately, even if Armageddon has its kickoff in the Middle East, when the Rapture Bus fails to show up, it'll be because ol' J.C. wants them to stay behind and fight.

That's what we call hedging a bet.

Totally!

If they don't disappear (and chances are nobody they know does either) than it is a free for all to kill as many unbelievers as they can before the bell runs out.

Either way, they are looking forward to slaughtering anyone who doesn't go to their church.
And according to the books they want to do it slow and draw out the suffering of their victims.

Nice people, just the kind I want running the US.

Well, that's great news. Pfft!

Huckabee is one of the actual Republicans in this race. LaHaye is a solid gold nutcake, so this is good news. Like having Nancy's astrologer on the stump.

Anyone ask Romney yet if he wears sacred long underwear like his church dictates?

He and his cabbage patch kids, versus Giuliani. It's a race for heaven!

Holy , , , WAR !

Paul in LA @ 140:

Chopvac @ 124 "Hitler was a christian."

Hitler was NOT a Christian.

"Martin Luther King Jr. was a christian."

MLK Jr. continues to have NO relationship to Hitler.

Hitler was a Christian, too bad you don't like it:
http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm

Paul in LA @ 142:

Symes @ 116 "The founding fathers were Deists, as is CLEARLY expounded upon in historical text as well as in their OWN words. Not exactly occultism, but only a step up from outright superstition none the less."

That's ridiculous. Being a 'deist' in that time has nothing to do with occultism or outright superstition. Jefferson's letters to Adams make that VERY clear.

Both Jefferson and Adams wanted to remove superstition from the appreciation of Jesus' life and teaching. They were rationalists -- opposed to superstition.

BTW - I said it was "one step up from outright superstition", not that it was superstition.
And it is, just barely.

There you are spinning for an argument, again.

Symes @ 143:

Paul in LA @ 140:

Chopvac @ 124 "Hitler was a christian."

Hitler was NOT a Christian.

"Martin Luther King Jr. was a christian."

MLK Jr. continues to have NO relationship to Hitler.

Hitler was a Christian, too bad you don't like it:
http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm

What I said in the original post and Appalling in LA was too dishonest to include, is the fact that religion has nothing to do with morality. MLKJr. and Hitler were both christians, yet had diametrically opposing ethical views.

Appalling in LA is so dishonest he even killed the link to the previous comment. I have reconnected it if you care to look.

Don't worry. As a Christian Democrat, I have no wish to see religion involved in the government. However, your comment about "spiritual warfare" does show your ignorance about the religion. No offense: Americans are very religiously illiterate. That is why we are having so many problems understanding the Middle East. But I digress....

"Spiritual Warfare" is a play on words somewhat comparable to Paul's "armor of God." The Bible is seen as the "sword," and our faith is seen as the "shield." While I do not live in the fear that the religious right seems to have; I understand what they are saying about spiritual warfare. It is something that I believe in as well; albeit a bit differently. I personally engage in spiritual warfare against fear, and the evil that our current administration seeks to do upon its citizens out of that fear.

Evil manifests itself in many forms; and it is written that sometimes it can be disguised as an "angel of light." The pious rhetoric and allusions to our faith have been used for years by the far right to pull the wool over our eyes while they seek their own selfish agendas to curtail civil liberties. Well, this is one Christian that knows that Jesus is not up in Heaven waving an American flag.

For what it is worth readers, God bless.

Arch.

Symes @ 143 "Hitler was a Christian, too bad you don't like it"

Hitler was NOT a Christian, other than using Christianity for his own racist purposes.

Your link doesn't load. In terms of church Christianity, Hitler did not believe in any of the Paulist dogmas, not in virgin birth, not in miracles, not in Jesus' substitute sacrifice on the cross, not in resurrection, not in Jesus being at the Father's right hand, and not in Apocalypse.

Quite obviously, Hitler did not accept the moral teachings of Jesus ON ANY LEVEL.

It's bullshit.

Symes @ 144 "Religion is superstition. Deism or otherwise."

Flatly incorrect. Moral Christianity is a way of life based on an enlightened morality. Even if there is no deity, it is valid in its own terms, which was Jefferson's point. Superstition has nothing to do with Jesus' moral teachings.

Deists believe in a creation by a Creator, but nothing more. It is a philosophic view. "Superstition," such as refusing to change your socks because you're hitting home runs, has NOTHING to do with philosophy.

Appalling in LA @ 154:

Chopvac @ 147" What I said in the original post and Appalling in LA was too dishonest to include, is the fact that religion has nothing to do with morality."

You clearly know nothing about religion.

You clearly know nothing about history.

Appalling in LA @ 154: All major religions have moral codes which are intrinsic to their beliefs. For instance, Buddhism, which practices a morality in order to avoid the accumulation of karma, the elimination of karma being the basis of the religion (ignoring Pure Land versions).

I guess that explains why the buddhists in Burma murdered thousands of muslims, or the Japanese, who practice both Shinto and buddhism, committed their war crimes. It was "moral behaviour", as you called it.

Appalling in LA @ 154: Hinduism and Islam have extensive moral teachings which are indistinguishable from the religion itself.

And that must be why OBL blows up buildings and some hindus murder sikhs and muslims: "moral teachings".

Appalling in LA @ 154: What a petty set of lies you're hustling.

Look who's talking. You're the godbot who believes in fairy tales, not me.

'I diaried on DailyKos a few months ago on how “Judeo-Christian” means “Christian.” It’s a cooption of Judaism by Christians in which most Jews are too fearful to speak up about. But it is insidious and offensive.

'If they mean “Christian,” they should just say “Christian” and stop doing violence to my religion so they can cover up their own agenda.'

Right on! Actually, the only reason these mostly anti-semitic turds support Israel and cater to their lobby in D.C. is that they need Jews in Jerusalem to bring about their Second Coming with resulting so-called "rapture." Not surprising Shuckabee is allied with LaHaye, either. These people are DANGEROUS LUNATICS. If Shuckabee becomes prez, he will start a movement to ban Darwin from all libraries and schools, make mandatory the teaching of creationism, and return to back alley illegal abortions. What gets me is how "clean" he tries to come off, with the "aw shucks," "golly gee," "my gosh" lingo he sprinkles into his appearances. He's a raving nutcase behind that facade.

Paul in LA @ 116:

Symes @ 143 "Hitler was a Christian, too bad you don't like it"

Hitler was NOT a Christian, other than using Christianity for his own racist purposes.

Your link doesn't load. In terms of church Christianity, Hitler did not believe in any of the Paulist dogmas, not in virgin birth, not in miracles, not in Jesus' substitute sacrifice on the cross, not in resurrection, not in Jesus being at the Father's right hand, and not in Apocalypse.

Quite obviously, Hitler did not accept the moral teachings of Jesus ON ANY LEVEL.

It's bullshit.

My link loads fine Paul. Try again.

Hitler was a Catholic by his own professions. Deny all you want, but it is FACT.
And as you should know he most certainly did follow the Bible, any atrocity can be justified if you look hard enough.
The link I provided has proofs of this.

Sorry you don't like that, but too bad.

Mike Huckabee's rise in Iowa shows you what can happen when the media gets out of the way of a campaign.

The media has had a lot less influence on the GOP side than they have on the Democratic side.

They have actively tried to destroy John Edwards and push Clinton and Obama.

On the GOP side, they'll talk about Mitt Romney or Giuliani every blue moon, but they don't preach inevitability or a one-on-one showdown, the way they do for the Democrats.

Huckabee has benefited from the lower amount of attention towards the Republicans. If the media didn't say anything about 2008 until the two nominees were chosen, Edwards would be well ahead of Clinton and Obama right now, or the race would be very close with five or six candidates around 10-20%.

NOTE TO THE ADMIN:

We could use a Huckabee category for easier story searching

Thx

Symes @ 127 "Religion has nothing to do with ethical behavior."

Sure. So Gandhi wasn't ethical.

When bashing religion, remember to only take the bad examples, because valid arguments are too ethical.

Paul in LA @ 130:

Symes @ 127 "Religion has nothing to do with ethical behavior."

Sure. So Gandhi wasn't ethical.

When bashing religion, remember to only take the bad examples, because valid arguments are too ethical.

Your idiocy is showing Paul, I NEVER said the two were mutually exclusive.
Misquoting me when my actual post is only a couple above yours is pretty dumb.

That was trolling Paul. And not a particularly good example of it either.

Paul in LA @ 133:

Gandhi's ethics cannot be separated from his ardent Hinduism.

As for Christianity, the Bible is composed of an Old Testament with a lot of moral law, and a New Testament based significantly on ETHICS.

Here's a simple example from Matthew:

43: Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. [This is morality]

44: But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;. [This is ethics]

Your claims about trolling are ridiculous. Why don't you grow up?

Keep trying Paul.
You'll get it right some day.

Paul in LA @ 135:

Unresponsive drivel.

So stop drooling.