David Brooks Bombshell: Democrats Like John McCain
By Logan Murphy Saturday Nov 24, 2007 12:00pm
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This morning's Chris Matthews Show rendered few surprises, but I couldn't let David Brooks off the hook on this one. No longer seen as a maverick to Democratic and Independent voters, McCain is now viewed as a pandering disappointment, but Brooks doesn't appear to have gotten the memo. David fawns all over McCain, giving him glowing reviews using the one issue that has been more repellent to Americans of all political stripes than any other -- his staunch support for George Bush and his surge in Iraq.
To believe that any demographic outside the hardcore, far right wing of the Republican party will vote for McCain in any significant numbers borders on delusional -- but what else can we expect from this guy?
Brooks: "...Independents actually do like him, Democrats actually do like him, which is helpful if you're going to run in a general election. And fourth, he passed a character test recently. When the Iraq war was in it's darkest days, chaos everywhere, he was for the surge when a lot of his competitors were sitting around, waiting for someone else to take the lead..."
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He's my senator, and half the people in this state despise him. Brooks should get out of New York once in awile.
David Brooks is sounding more balmy every week. The cons are desparate.
Brooks stupidity has nothing to do with NY.
He's just a moron.
The reason Brooks likes McCain is that McCain is an even bigger warmonger than Giuliani, who's sewn up the warmonger for Israel vote via Podhoretz, unfortunately for McCain.
Just a little insurance, in case the Robertson pander doesn't work with the christers.
McCain is clearly brain damaged and could probably be labeled 'incompetent' were the proper tests given. I'm sure he's got plenty of redeeming traits as a human being but as a candidate for anything more pressing than 'walmart greeter' he leaves much to be desired.
Poor Mr. Brooks. It must be difficult being eight years out of touch when your job is politics.
Sure, McCain was ok when he wasn't leading the charge to placate the Fox news crowd.
Well, fresh from his tremendous victory over Krugman Re: Was St. Ronnie a Racist Asshole? Ol' Dave continues to rack up points in the:
Dumbest Pundit Alive Contest!
He's always been the prohibitive favorite and here you can see why. McCain couldn't get elected dog-catcher in most places.
What?
What?
What?
Democrats Like John McCain
What?
What?
I think my head is exploding, no one I know will vote for him
And Brooks says he has character, he tells the truth, can we roll the tape
he flip flops and he's pandering to the far religious right ...
Democrats like him? Maybe as a doting uncle but as president?
Which John McCain is he referring to? The John McCain prior to the year 2000 or the John McCain post 2000 election.
I like him. As repugs go, he's almost human. I wouldn't vote for him for dogcatcher, but I like him.
As an Independent that votes mostly (spineless) Dem, I can assure that ASS David Brooks that John McCain sucks, big time. And I would never vote for him.
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"Brooks: “…Independents actually do like him, Democrats actually do like him, which is helpful if you’re going to run in a general election."
As an Independent voter and former Democrat I do not like John McCain. Brooks needs to talk with more people beyond the tip of his own nose.
After McCain made a baffoon of himself in a public forum, while responding to a drug war abolitionist state police officer in New Hampshire I wrote this about McCain on my blog, ALeftIndependent, a couple of days back:
Squeezing John McCain's Monster Balloon
I've been through the Sunday funnies already and that is the most hilarious thing I've read today.
David Brooks' breath has a hint of feces to it. But, that is the price you pay when you constantly talk out of your ass.
McCain is a likable person, someone I can have a beer with and listen to his war stories. But he's far from being Presidential material.
Clearly somebody has 'upped the ante' with Brooks. Seems like he's even more shrill in his defense of these bastards. [deleted]
Admittedly, I was a McCain fan in 2000 - couldn't have agreed more with his calling out of Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell - then his whoreness came out. He decided that if his cancer allowed him to live long enough, he was determined to do anything to be President...hell, I even bought one of his books - just before he started kissin' geedubya's ass...never opened it and am looking for a chance to throw it back in his face one of these days.
it sounds like brooks accidentally picked up his talking points from two years ago.
Sorry, he failed the character test when he caved on torture. No person who advocates torture or votes for the suspension of habeus corpus should be considered a viable candidate for President.
He failed the character test not long after 2000 when he decided to kiss Bush's ass. Since, then he's been a case study in putting personal ambition ahead of conviction. The irony of it all is that had he remained a Bush foe and voted against Iraq, he would be a shoe-in for Presdent, though probably not as a republican.
Ever see video of McCain's complexion compared to us working stiffs....he's looking scary albino white these days.
McCain's vote on immigration guarantees the far right won't be voting for him. McCain's maverick votes have moved on to Ron Paul.
And blowing his war chest shows how badly he manages. If the Republican field weren't so screwed up he'd never get any votes, it's just that Romney and Guiliani make him look better than he is.
Our Miss Brooks thinks Joe Lieberman is a typical Democrat.
As he has proven over and over and over again, Brooks lives in his own special bubble that defies the laws of reality that the rest of us live in. And to think he makes buckets of money compared to the average worker in this country. It boggles the mind.
tHeGaMeOfLiFe @ 16:
I dunno, what if you took him to your favorite watering hole and he spontaneously jumped up and started dancing to his rendition of "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bom bomb Iran?"
You could never go back!
We win by ignoring these morons (Brooks).
Vote with your feet.
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If that bullshit were true, it would put John McCain one up on David Brooks.
Brooks is a wimp and idiot; he's the N.Y.T. equivalent to Juan Williams on Fox News Sunday: the token opposition. Even on the NewsHour with Lehrer, he comes off as ineffectual next to the weepy, almost knee-jerk liberal, Mark Shields. I kind of liked McPain when he was battling Arbusto in GOP debates on the stumps, but when he became such an ardent supporter of the Iraqi Misadventure, I realized my admiration was misplaced. Worse, he first told an audience that Faultwell and Robber's son were "agents of intolerance"; then, when joining the hustings again, he reconciled with the former, going so far as to speak at Faultwell's phoney "university's" commencement -- and actually hugging that sorry-assed motherfucker on the stage. Then we had McPain the tortured Vietcong POW giving his thumbs up to Mukaskey despite the fact that the A.G. nominee wouldn't call waterboarding torture. Talk about two-faced hypocrisy! No, make no mistake, Dems are not partial to John McPain. No way.
David Brooks (deleted), and John McCain is even more (deleted). Plus, (deleted) and Kristol (deleted), and Bush (deleted). Furthermore, the whole (deleted), and someday, the (deleted) is going to (deleted), and you (deleted) are going to be (deleted), and you (deleted) will deserve (deleted).
Sitemonitor: Nice post, but hold it down a little, there are still some things we can't say out loud, even on C&L.
Brooks is delusional.
It was his comments about the 'Surge' that were really stupid. He tried to say that McCain was vindicated because of his support for the surge - not bothering to mention that the surge had about as much influence on events in Iraq as a fart has on the wind.
This guy actually thinks that Bush's vaunted surge tactic (marketing opportunity) has made the overall situation in Iraq somehow better. Nothing in Iraq has changed. The outcome is a foregone conclusion (for Iraq: failed state; for us: crushing debt, economic and social isolation, subversion of our Constitution, possible war crimes trials, failed state).
Dems like McCain because he supported the surge. What a freekin' moron.
What alternate reality do these wingnuts live in?
Scott @ 24:
Brooks doesn't 'make' money, in the normal sense of 'earning' it.
He accepts bribes. To 'write', and to 'not write'.
I don't consider that 'making it', do you?
David Brooks is very envious of John McCain.
When Brooks tried to learn to fly, he crashed on the runway on his very first attempt to take off.
McCain made it all the way to North Vietnam.
Uh . . . I don't think so.
Brooks is just another Reich-wing tool.
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clytemnestra @ 8:
No matter what Brooks says, McCain has no chance of winning the election, because of the one big unanswered question hanging over him:
When he kissed Bush's ass, did he use his tongue?
McCain's campaign hit a big 'bump in the road, today, when Cindy McCain endorsed Giuliani.
But, ever the fighter, John laughed it off and said he'll continue the fight, and 'he'll win the election'.
'Cindy doesn't know me very well', McCain said, 'We haven't seen much of each other since she moved to New York and moved in with Rudy's wife'.
When some becomes that delusional Matthews should get him help, not put him on the air so the world see how ill he is.
David brooks is such a total right wing tool. I don not even bother to hear him out any more. The moment I see his repugnant face on the screen I switch channels.
I'm a democrat. Just for fun I took an online survey that a friend sent to see who I stood with the most on issues facing our country, such as health care, Iraq, education, etc... John Edwards and Chris Dodd tied for first with 43 points. After that it was Obama and Kucinich. Interestingly Hillary finished toward the bottom of the Democrats. However, every single Democrat finished higher than any Republican in the survery I took. ALL the candidates were included in the survey. John McCain finished DEAD LAST for me...with 1 point. Even Duncan Hunter got 5 points! Almost total disagreement with everything John McCain stands for.
Democrats like McCain? PUHHHHHLEAZE!
McCain consistently demonstrates his 'character'.
When all of SoCal was ablaze, and the firefighters and the air drops were working 24/7 to fight the fires, and barely holding their own, McCain was seen running around the perimeter of the blazes, blowing furiously on the embers beside the roads, fanning the flames.
When N'Awlins was being inundated, mcCain went out of his way to rush to the scene, with truckloads of water which he pumped over the levees, into the 9th ward.
And, as Brooks has pointed out, all during the fuc*-up of the Iraq debacle, McCain has been running around with his flashlight, trying to spot the 'light at the end of the tunnel', while patting his bosom buddy, The Dummy, on the ass, and shouting 'HECKUVAJOB, BUSHY'.
(Lemme let you in on an inside secret, McCain's mind is so far gone he can't even remember whether he has alzheimer's or just plain old senility, but does it make any difference for those who think of him as a possible president? They are just plain nuts)
There are definitely too many Democrats "like John McCain". that's why i quit the Democratic Party.
ROTFLMAO. Can you imagine the reaction from the audience if Brooky were on the Daily Show and said these very same words? Half the show would have been taken up by laughter. I’m guessing that Matthews and the rest of the panel didn’t bother to challenge Brooky on his comments. This speaks volumes as to their credibility (or what’s left of it) as well.
When Brooks said "People like MCain" he forgot to include the phrase"In comparison to the rest of the dreck that makes up the Republican field".
I think McCain is a good man and compared to the other Republicans, at least he's not stupid, crazy or a liar but I certainly don't like John McCain, as a president. All war all the time. No thanks.
David Brooks, like so many others of his ilk, do not articulate about the world, as it is. They harangue about the world as they think it should be.
In a very insulated D.C. press corps, Mr. Brooks remains notable for his complete disconnect with reality.
In the movie "Mr. Brooks," Kevin Costner plays a sociopath with a dual personality, who passes quite well an an everyday good ol' guy. Change the character from serial killer to serial spinner and you capture the essence of David Brooks rather well.
I've got some great surge news folks! The Baghdad market is safe for green zone visitor shoppers! The surge is a success!
/sarcasm
last i checked wasn't mccain at around 0% in polls for president? I know those are likely polls of republicans, but what makes anyone think he'd do better w/ dems or independents. The man sold his principles for some undisclosed price. Then he did it again. And again.
He had principles back in the hole he got tortured in. Evidently, his price has been found and met. He's now worse than a lying politician. He's a lying politician who used to tell the truth.
David Brooks is a grossly overrated writer and newsman. He must be blowing someone at the Times to have gotten the job in the first place.
There's a little problem with Brook's logic. McCain is a republican.
Republicans don't like McCain.
Does Brooks think Democrats are going to elect McCain because he, Brooks, proclaims that 'Democrats like McCain'?!
This is the kind of non-thinking that got Brooks (and Kristol, et.al.) where they are. Impotent, delusional, wanna-be 'kingmaking' pundits, with ED problems of the brain.
As the conservatives slip beneath the waves, Brooks version of what's going on becomes more and more wishful thinking - the stuff St. Stephen of Colbert calls truthiness.
Wow!
That's all I needed to hear!
I just need to get on the fast smack talk express with dingbat David Brooks!
Democrats for McCain!
Propagandist Shitheels for Brooks!
-GSD
Samson- @ 15:
or when your mouth is planted upside dumya's rear end most of the time. just sayin'
McCain is getting a throat full of Bush musk....ew.
Brooks OBVIOUSLY didn't get any of the memos since the VERY FIRST ONE said that HE'S AN IDIOT!
Kool-Aide express...scary...
Dennis @ 39:
I guess a nation of refugees and a "police state" sets an upbeat "tone" for you. http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/112007.html
Brooks is Delusional. Been happening for a while
I'm trying to think of why I like John McCain...
His role in the Keating 5? No...
Hugging George after George's thugs did a racist push-poll on McCain's adopted daughter? No...
Eating cake with George while Katrina was hitting? No...
Failing to stop Bush's from torturing war prisoners? No...
Cheerleading the surge of bloodletting in Bush's illegal, hyper-expensive, bloody war? No...
I'm stumped. Did he buy a new shirt?
Anyone see him on Stephanopopopolous this morning? He was taking credit for the success of the McCain Doctrine and then Stephanopopop talked about this General saying it's a failure and McCain totally went off on how Hillary just wants us to lose and stuff.
Brooks is shilling to get back on Imus.
I will say, I prefer him to Ghouliani, but I'd never vote for him!! Preferring him to Ghouliani ain't saying much either. Rudy is bottom of the barrell stuff. the dregs.
I think the keyword that runs through a lot of these comments is right on target- "delusional". As far as Brooks goes, in New York everything is on a larger scale- even our morons are stupider;-)...But back to the delusional part. I was listening to this obnoxious kid the other night- a friend of my kids' who attends an expensive private school and regurgitates Daddy's Rush Limbaugh drivel- and he's telling my daughter how Giiuliani would be good for the economy. Why? Same reason "Democrats like McCain": because if a conservative wishes really hard and clicks their ruby slippers together, then that makes it true! The manifest evil that calls itself "conservatism" in the US is collapsing rapidly and there is nothing to replace it, no Democratic counterforce, no viable third party and we should all fear that the accelerating collapse is going to draw much into itself like a black hole...
I am so glad people have finally gotten wise to McCain.
He was never a straight talker or a maverick.
Time after time over the years, he has gotten big headlines and fawning press coverage with his so-called independent words - but when push came to shove, he did exactly what he did regarding torture: quietly cave and support the regressives. The "principled stand" gets so much media attention and the surrender so little, that until recently, even many Dems bought into the BS.
He has been successfully working that scam for at least 20 years that I know of - and I would be confident betting that it goes back into his entry into politics. That's why Republicans hate him - he isn't afraid to embarrass them in the interest of his own political career - even though they know he will fall in line like the rest of them when it counts.
The mere fact that McCain so obsequiously hugged the Killer-in-Chief -- that photo is both pitiful and disgusting -- after what Shrub did to him in 2000 shows that the man is seriously damaged.
McCain has been a fraud for years.
duct tape mailbox fashionista David Brooks needs to put down the kool aid. All these beltway bumpkins have these welfare segments about how great Mccain is
I know it looks like David Brooks, and I know it sounds like David Brooks,but I know it has to be Willy Kristol wearing a David Brooks costume!
David Brooks is grasping at straws. He's been clobbered by his cohorts on the Times op-ed page (Krugman, of course, and Herbert), the facts are clearly against him -- what does he have left but pie-in-the-sky spin?
He's been so wrong for so long that I don't even bother to read him anymore. If he says anything at all interesting, it will show up in a blog somewhere. But mostly, I ignore him, as I ignore all the other Bushie apologists. Nothing they say will change my mind, because nothing they say is based in facts (what we liberals call reality). And while the neocons are creating their own reality (yeah, I read the original Sunday Times Magazine piece), those of us who actually live in reality can sit back and enjoy the schadenfreude when the "real" reality bites them in their "created reality"'s ass.
The former co-leader of the 9/11 commission said that McCain would protect us from dangers abroad and dangers at home.........
Okay, I know what coded message "dangers abroad are, but what does "dangers at home" represent?
Democrats?,al quida-in-america?,higher taxes?,honesty?,government regulations?
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REMEMBER:
Brooks is a PAID political HACK.
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That's just stupid -- McCain is steadfast in his support of Bush's Iraq policy -- the one thing that has galvanized Democrats and that we all insist on is that the US leave Iraq -- McCain can HARDLY be said to have passed a character test on this issue, especially since his support for Bush flies in the face of the facts -- recall the walk through the "safe" markets with Lindsey Graham?
-raises an eyebrow-
So, where are these Democrats, the ones that would vote for John McCain? Haven't seen much of them, nor repugs that might vote for this guy either.
Brooks is a hack, obviously. But really? I don't think anyone supports him much anymore, on either side of the aisle.
Does the word "dork" come to mind when you look at this loser? Its again, not surprising that he has no clue what he is talking about. There are damn few neocon pigs that are NOT dillusional, and this one is no different.
They spew such ridiculous crap that even they should have a hard time looking straight faced in to the camera...which explains why they never do.
who the hell is the brooks guy other than some slick salesman ala Friedman. If he owns that suit store then all I gotta say is that suits at brooks suck ass.
It's all TWEETY's FAULT!
This is such twisted conjecuture dancing with backwards logic:
1. Surge to quiet the streets of Baghdad... SO IRAQI politicians have an opportunity to meet in safety and security.
2. Inject THOUSANDS of American Troopers in there to support the Surge.
3. ESCALLATION of American troop levels
Everytime I see that photo, it just makes me sick. It only reminds me of why McCain is such a disappointment.
Sorry... didn't finish:
3. Escallation of American Troop levels QUIETS THE STREETS OF BAGHDAD BY A SMALL DEGREE.
4. HENCE: The Surge is SUCCESSFUL!!! The Surge is SUCCESSFUL!!!
(That's how McCain puts it in his stump speech.
5. FORGET the Iraqi politicians.
6. FORGET the fact that MORE AMERICANS are now serving in Iraq.
7. FORGET the increased cost to American taxpayers.
8. FORGET common sense and long memory.
9.. KEEP REPEATING...
The Surge is Successful,
The Surge is Successful...and soon it will become the TRUTH.
Gee, David, must be the same Dems that are supporting Hillary in Droves - cause they shore aren't in my neck of the woods.
Edwards in '08. Or Obama. Or Richardson. I don't care - somebody who can win.
I used to like McCain, before he gave his balls to George Bush, ate a plate of sh*t that Bush gave him, asked for seconds, and told Bush to keep his balls.
Brooks is living in a time warp and thinks the huddled masses are with him in 1999 straight talk land.
As much as Republicans like Hillary!
I've never understood why an idiot like Brooks has any kind of a job as a pundit. The man is worthless, and his opinions and interpretations are as worthless as he is.
Get your pens and paper folks, because again they want to make fools out of us.
Now if the voice of the American people are right and I do believe that is the only voice we should be concerned with as truthful, then we have a good 80% of the country against any kind of republican policy what-so ever, including these cheap ass holes running for President.
Now what that means is these dame fools that are running for office on the republican ticket are only speaking to 20% of the people in this country whom are idiots also. No one else is listening to them and the so called debates will most likely not even be watched by most of us, because it makes you sick to look at these vermin's, let alone think about voting for any of them, including Ron Paul, who if you really look at what this guy stands for and worse yet, what he doesn't stand for besides this illegal war, you would run him out of this country.
What that means is that if who ever their front runners are. Their polling data is only based on 20% of the people so if Guleanne (or what ever), is at 46% over the other lunatics, then that is 46% of the 20% of supporters they have.
Unlike the democratic candidates, that are actually running for votes from 80% of the people in this country, when they get the same comparison of votes, they are actually getting data from 80% of the people.
The supporters are just not there for them as this right wing media continues to promote.
We have got to be smarter then they are giving us credit for folks. I am simply tired of this kind of shit.
Got that?
Again, these pundits think we are so stupid that we can be swayed by their bull. Brooks and the gang are going after Dems because any candidate we put up will win. Edwards beats Ghoulini in every state by some polls. Let's put up a winner. Edwards/Obama.
I have to agree with Brooks, alot of independents and democrats still do like McCain.
Thats something you need to understand too if youre a democrat, becuase that means he's the most dangerous republican candidate in the race. He could win by getting crossover votes (the polls show that). His stance on the war doesnt change that much either, especially now since the violence in Iraq is down.
Brooks is a bought and paid for AIPAC carny barker. McCain is a war criminal who is proud of dropping cluster bombs and napalm and God knows what else all over Viet Nam. Can you think of a better couple made in heaven?
Jonesy
The violence in Iraq is down? I guess you didn't read the paper today. The number of American troops killed in Iraq is slightly down because they don't go outside their fortified bases anymore. Meanwhile, scores of Iraqis were killed in three separate bombing incidents yesterday. John McCain is and remains a depraved, degenerate war criminal whom the Vietnamese wish they'd just shot on sight for the numerous murders he committed. Mention all of the above facts to anyone who is wavering on "the Maverick."
HulksHeroes @ 73:
...Why, now that you mention it- yes, it does!!!
purvis ames,
The argument about the violence is irrelevant anyhow. Whats important is that theres no incentive for the shiites to want to create a unified govt, since they hate the sunnis and want the country all to themselves.
My point was more about independents and moderate democrats. All the polls Ive seen still show McCain to be the strongest republican candidate ina general election, and thats because he still has appeal to swing voters. Obviously to them his stance on the war doesnt matter as much as it does to you, or as it does to the originator of this thread.
"McCain is now viewed as a pandering disappointment . . ."
I've never liked McCain. He's always been a right wing asshole. If anyone's a Democrat and "disappointed" in McCain, you're a frigging idiot. I really can't stand Democrats who are constantly searching for a Republican who they could vote for.
Brooks is just another condescending media hack that has appointed himself a political "expert." He knows nothing about how Democrats feel but is arrogant enough to pretend he does.
Mc Cain is a coward and a phony who is all about political image, not genuine substance. He had every chance to be a real maverick and distance himself from the Bushcovite Junta but chose to parrot the bankrupt party line.
Have fun reaping the rewards of your perfidy and arrogance, John. It's harvest time. You get exactly what you deserve.
Jonesy
If the argument abou the violence in Iraq is "irrelevant", why do you use it?
I'm a long time Democrat, and I can't stand John McPain! He's too old to run. He's losing his good judgement, if he ever had any. He is one more politician that refuses to listen to the wishes of the majority! Sorry David Brooks, there may have been a time we respected McCain, but he totally lost that gift when he crawled into bed with Bush.
He should have turned democrat after being the crash test dummy for Rove's playbook. That is way too much loyalty to be healthy.
Why is David Brooks employed by the NYT?
Why does PBS give him platform as if he has has anything of interest to say or any prediction that has come to pass.
He is a mindless whore for the right wing.
As a life long Democrat I would find McCain objectionable for the "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" Beach-boys ditty.
Coffins Draped with Flags @ 9:
That's the question, isn't it? John McCain in the 2000 primaries was someone I could respect, but when he campaigned for Bush in the 2004 election I began to suspect that something was wrong. Personally, after the way he was treated by the Bush camp in 2000, I wouldn't cross the street to piss on them if they were on fire. I always wondered if maybe they promised to back him in 2008 in exchange for his support. If so, he's now seeing how BushCo keeps their promises.
Or maybe not. These days he seems addled on his good days, senile on his bad ones. Either way, his pandering to the most extreme elements of the right wing in this campaign is disgusting, and at complete odds with his campaigning in 2000.
There are plenty of independents and moderate-to-conservative Democrats who like John McCain. Don't let your passion cloud your judgment. There are risks to living in an echo chamber; not everyone you disagree with in politics is an #$#hole.
I wouldn't vote for him for a whole bunch of reasons, but its disappointing to see the level of discourse degenerate to this. What labels and language do you reserve for real bad guys? I guess it proves that vulgarity is vulgarity whether it comes from the left or the right.
David Brooks moonlights for John McCain because he needs the extra money. John McCain is so far out of this race it's sad he's making a fool of himself. McCain can't even get the people from his State to vote for him as President. There is a campaign to have John McCain recalled as Senator. Now to the best of my knowledge we have never had a President that didn't carry his own State. Rudy doesn't have New Yorkers vote, Mitt doesn't have Mass. votes, Hunter doesn't have California votes and others full in this position. Brooks will try to suck up to how ever wins the Election because if he doesn't he wont have a job. Right now he's an insider to the White House and is proud he got a 45 min. interview with the idiot President. Now in the coming months watch him down play his closeness to the White House.
Coffins Draped with Flags @ 9:
Yeh, McCain went a little off centre after 2000.
"Democrats Like John McCain"
That should read "liked John McCain"
Now he's just a shadow of what he once was.
PETER
Stop being such an obvious troll. You don't even have a word to say about McCain except people shouldn't be "vulgar" about him.
I was so disappointed when McCain started his pandering, because I really did like him for being a human Republican. If only he could just close his eyes and make the pandering go away.
At least he's still fighting soft-money lobbyist campaigns... funny thing is, they're trying to help him now, so he's in a really bad position. At least he hasn't caved in there.
Nevertheless, I would happily vote McCain instead of Clinton, so I'm not surprised to see that reflected in polls.
I like McCain... when he's not running for president.
I like him in the same sense I'd rather be bitten by a normal dog than one with rabies, but that's not high praise. Compared to rank and file Republicans these days McCain is almost human. Shameless, lacking all principle, full of crap, and dishonest...but still preferable to a good percentage of his party. Most Republicans couldn't be trusted to referee a little league game, let alone run a country.
McCain's an okay Senator for a winger but he played all of his cards wrong if wanted to be president. (Actually, that's not entirely true. He caved the way a career politician has to cave to get this brass ring handed to them--see Hillary--but unfortunately for him his party has surpassed him in lunacy. He just not foaming-at-the-mouth crazy enough for them. In the modern GOP you don't quibble on torture if you're serious. No, you double Guantanemo and waterboard a Mexican for good measure.)
I'm a liberal and I like McCain...for a laugh. I think he has a great sense of humor and doesn't take himself too seriously, which is good. I won't vote for him because of his obvious turn around and worship of GB. All of us have been shocked at his behavior during that campaign toward Bush after the way he and his family were so abused in the 2000 election.
It's so refreshing to see Brooks once again take the lead in offering ignorant, unfounded observations concerning the dynamics of American politics. How often does he have to be wrong before he becomes irrelevent?
I am an independent that will be voting for a democrat in 08, but I don’t think Brooks is delusional. McCain is the least frightening of the republicans vying for the nomination. Despite his support of the Iraq War, McCain does have a ‘likeability’ factor among many democrats and independents that could make him persuasive in a general election. It wouldn’t be wise to discount that fact out-of-hand.
Democrats USED TO like him, before he bent for lil' bush. Democrats have never liked brooks.
Well, I don't exactly like John "Insane" McCain. But I do have a certain amount of pity for him.
John McCain is the only R. candidate with guts, and tied with Kucinich on the D. side (remember, that Kucinich never dodges a question and has the courage of his convictions). For this reason, neither has a chance.
I'm a liberal New Englander, and a regular reader of this blog, and I know that I'm supposed to now say "Yeah, that's right, we hate McCain and David Brooks!", but I can't. I disagree with John McCain on almost every issue, but he's a great man — and my mother, who is a Democrat all her life, will vote for him.
David Brooks says some startling things, but is very willing to concede points to the other side when he's on Brooks and Shields on PBS... So many of these party hacks (I think of Lady McChaney) will say ANYTHING to support their side. Brooks often says Republicans are wrong, or Democrats are right on some issue. That's not so bad.
Cantor de Mambo @ 90:
You've said it all. It's such bullshit. Another poster in this thread said he'd vote for McCain over Clinton now I have to think he's not a Democrat or liberal in any sense of the word. She's not my first choice, but since Gore's not running, no way would I even think of giving a repug my vote after 8 years under chimpy.
And for all of the McLame supporters other people have covered it in this thread, but once again, the reason we dislike McCain is because he talks a good game on the stump about being against torture and has capitulated to chimpy time and time again. He knew the Military Commissions Act held exceptions for chimpy to torture and he voted for it. He voted for Mukasey when Mukasey wouldn't even admit that waterboarding is torture. He takes stands and does not back it up when it counts. Hillary is not more of the same. Every repug candidate outside of Ron Paul is more of the same. End of story.
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