They may say they have deleted them, but we all know the NSA has copies of all that traffic ;)

Sneeze While I PEE

I didn't vote for him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKEDLy8rAwU

What I like to know is what am I fighting for?

Higher up say they support the troops, take away our benefits, their right wing TV and radio hosts bash us, and destroyed our image worldwide.

This doesn't sound like the America I gave my oath to protect!

It's OK everyone! I found the back up. The government has been monitoring and saving all e-mail traffic sent through ATT and others, as well as voice and IM data for well over 6 years.

Everything's OK!

It doesn't matter that they deleted emails, because that data still exists on the hard drives. In the corporate world, Sarbanes-Oxley mandated that all computer hard drives be saved. If the hard drives still exist, the emails are still on them.

dugg it

I can understand a few here and a few there over 7 years....but ten million.....nope,ain't buyin it

.........what are they hiding....................?

James @ 14:

Why? Why are the Dems not holding hearings every day? Screw breaks, elections and weekends. Why should I even bother to vote Dem? If Congress is going to keep doing nothing why should i not just vote reb and let the whole system break down so we can dust off that constitution thingy once the fires are out? I am being honest when i ask this... what the hell are we doing backing the same damn people who did nothing to stop it in the first place?

Um... because we're stupid?

This circle of corruption will never end, just goes round and round.

"Cafferty should have to read every one of them when they're found" -Ronnie, Horsham,PA
"I have no idea what Ronnie means." -Cafferty
"He just wants you to read 10 million emails." -Blitzer

Ha ha! It's called 'snark' Wolfie!

sadsack @ 18:

What really gets me is all the Bushies out there that think this is perfectly acceptable!

What gets me is how fast it will become unacceptable to those same Bushies the instant a progressive gets elected.

L.A. Confidential @ 3:

I didn't vote for him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKEDLy8rAwU

Thanks, I still hurt from this one.

Now if it wasn't so true, if he weren't our presdimwit, if I didn't care about America, I would feel better about laughing at this idiot.

Thanks for a great link!

Big deal, what's all the fuss about?

Just pass out, after an overdose of Viagra, with your dick on the 'delete' key, and Buh Bye, 10 meg worth of e-mails.

If could happen to anybody....with an ED problem....check out Cheney....it couldn't be his wife, she's always got a hard on....god damn, it could be her.

Who else has access to the White House e-mail system? Not Leezzaa, they took away her privileges. Preposterous Putz don't know how. Perino just acts dumb, she too smart to leave her fingerprints on anything, 'Berto's exiled to Cancun. Feith's back in shul, Scooter's skating, Bolton's making the talk show circuit, he don't talk English, anyway, Wolfowitz has been in a Swiss clinic, getting rid of his dose, Harriet Miers is locked up in the basement, they don't have a butler.....who coulda done it?

The only one left is Laura, she's quiet, she's sneaky. She's the one.

If the NSA 'lost' their copies, too, you can be damned sure the Chinese and the Russkies have theirs on tap.

I think the real surprise will be if anything ever comes from all this. Some of the Dems we elected in 06 do not value the views of their constituents. As someone stated above, there should be meetings every day of the week on these abuses.

Preacher Boob @ 25:

...check out Cheney....it couldn't be his wife, she's always got a hard on....god damn, it could be her.

Ha! Her permawood matches Dick's 3-foot long vagina.

Why the caps on the headline?

Hell, the White House 'lost'* over 100 BILLION DOLLARS!!!

Don't that rate a notice on page 6, at least?

*Just like GM used to 'lose' new Cadillacs at the factory. Out the door, one piece at a time.

ShelaghC @ 32:

The big question is what is the penalty for breaking this law?

We hear all the time that this administration does illegal things. If anyone else in the country so blatantly and casually broke the law they'd be put away so long their great grandchildren would be grown up and wed.

What's the penalty for these crimes and who's going to pay it?

The suckers who are still paying taxes to this corrupt regime, that's who's gonna pay.

Well, hey man, "the absence of evidence isn't ..."

Oh wait, it is.

Pericles @ 36:

Also stacked the Supreme Court with hatchetmen, so he can't be sued by CREW.

You can't sue the President, that's not packing.

It's still a 5-4 Court. Way things are looking, Democrats will be filling the retirees seats in 2009.

• Also, Thomas, Scalia, and Kennedy all violated their oaths of office when they did not recuse themselves from Bush v. Gore. They can be impeached, and disbarred (sometime after 2008).

Cheney's been feeling the heat on this e-mail thing, he's getting out of town for the holidays, on a hunting trip.

What a greedy bastard he is. He got Bush to put a signing statement on the last budget appropriation that puts a $100K bounty on lawyers, and he's gone hunting for Christmas.

His 401K is already the size of Latvia's GDP, but you now what they say about the super rich, 'More is never enough'.

Paul in LA @ 39:

Pericles @ 36:

Also stacked the Supreme Court with hatchetmen, so he can't be sued by CREW.

You can't sue the President, that's not packing.

It's still a 5-4 Court. Way things are looking, Democrats will be filling the retirees seats in 2009.

• Also, Thomas, Scalia, and Kennedy all violated their oaths of office when they did not recuse themselves from Bush v. Gore. They can be impeached, and disbarred (sometime after 2008).

If they prove Ohio was stolen, can they impeach Roberts and Alito too? Those two corporate-fascist ass-kissers could be around for the next 40 years screwing the american people.

ShelaghC @ 32:

The big question is what is the penalty for breaking this law?

We hear all the time that this administration does illegal things. If anyone else in the country so blatantly and casually broke the law they'd be put away so long their great grandchildren would be grown up and wed.

What's the penalty for these crimes and who's going to pay it?

Don't be silly. Now if they were caught smoking marijuana while deleting government records, why THEN there would be a strong prosecution... /sarcasm

Uh, come to think of it, I have to add that if they were a junior aide caught smoking marijuana while deleting records, why THEN...

James @ 14 "If Congress is going to keep doing nothing why should i not just vote reb and let the whole system break down

Yes, why shouldn't you have members of your family die in riots?

War Crimes @ 46:

Paul in LA @ 37:

Well, hey man, "the absence of evidence isn't ..."

Oh wait, it is.

Wrong, evidence that should be there, but is missing, is admissible: Evidence destruction in re alleged war crimes.

It was a Rumsfeld snark, I didn't mean to imply anything else.

War Crimes @ 48 "Paul, didn't you hear. Impeachment is off the table. If the DNC will not imepach now, why will they ever impeach?"

I actually know something about this, War. I ran an impeachment effort from 2002-2004, so I'm not against impeachment. And I just came in from two hours of street protest.

The impeachment power won't work because WE HAVE HAD A COUP. The R (and DINO) politicians still support their thug and his policies.

So, yeah, we could have an impeachment (we are only 30 votes away). It could be done. And then the conviction process would FAIL, and Bushco would have all it needs to run right over us some more.

Impeachment is off the table because there aren't enough loyal Republicans to vote the facts instead of their complicity in these crimes.

Paul in LA @ 40:

NoGWBpolicyleftinplacesays @ 38 "a battle within the democratic party to "purge" it of the DLC republican-lite types, that still control the power structure within."

You are dreaming. The DLC is very powerful, not going to be removed any time soon, and they will most likely have a President in 2009.

At which point, hopefully the Progressives will still have the Speaker's seat, and we can continue to moderate the DLC's effect.

Dreaming? I think my last statement at 38 was very lucid. If DLC Hillary wins, we will be screwed.
Mrs. NAFTA is going to globalize the american worker into mass-extinction on behalf of her corporate masters.

And from what I have seen so far, there doesn't seem to be much progressive leadership in congress, or even much competent leadership against a president who is about as popular as
diarrhea at a chili cook-off.

However, maybe I will be pleasantly surprised.

Is this like the Nixon tapes ... what was it? 13 minutes "accidently" erased.

In this instance they ILLEGALLY erased emails. It's illegal and they belong in jail. PERIOD.

I would not shed one single tear if all the ENABLERS of the bush administration get booted out of office in 2008. I am tired of the "HAVEs" caring more about the bush administration, war $$ industry and corporations instead of caring for WE THE PEOPLE.

The House of Nixon stills rules, unfortunately.

Nothing practical to do about it until January 21, 2009

The PRA requires the outgoing President to hand over official records, including offical communications like e-mails, from his term of office, to the National Archives, but only upon leaving office. Yes, that does mean that he has a duty to preserve them for that evenual handover, but it also means that there isn't any built-in oversight or accountability for his execution of that particular duty until he has to hand the records over on January 21, 2009. Yes, in the absence of providing for any other body to oversee the President's preservation of these records while he is still in office, Congress could itself undertake a direct oversight function over the execution of this, as of any other, specific duty of the President to faithfully execute the laws it passes. But the President could almost certainly hold off effective acountability in this matter for the rest of his term with blanket assertions of executive privilege and/or security classification.

But on January 21, 2009, he not only has to hand over the records, or account for their loss, he also loses to his successor the decision on when and whether executive privilege and national security secrecy is invoked to protect any such records. And with e-mail, as compared to paper records, it is even harder to prune away, without leaving heavy-handed traces of the destruction of evidence, potential evidence of criminal wrong-doing from the mass of innocent exchanges vital to the on-going working of the administration. You can destroy messages on the WH server, but the only fool-proof way to do this would be to physically destroy the WH server (with all of its back-ups and ghosts), and you can't do that without destroying the entire web of information that the WH uses to run the country. Even if they imagined that they could possibly be throrough enough to systematically identify and erase all potentially damaging messages (And how likely is that, given what we know of the systematic lawlessness of this administration?), then ghost the edited server to new physical hard drives, then physically destroy the old hard drives, the "edited" e-mail server would bear so many tags and lacunae testifying to the existence, and usually allowing strong inference of the content, of what was missing, that the exercise would serve only to add counts to the indictment, rather than protect against indictment.

This is a dangerous step-off that we have allowed the modern Presidency to evolve into. The imperial President is allowed, almost required, to skirt the law right and left while he is in office as the incumbent god-emperor. It doesn't even matter if the law-breaking becomes widely known, because we let the god-emperor control the evidence needed to hold him legally accountable while in office. But the second someone else succeeds to the god-imperiate, the old god is suddenly a powerless mortal, the evidence of his crimes in full possession of the new god, who can use it to send the failed god to prison for life. If you were such a god-man, facing prison if you meekly follow the law you have gotten eight years practice breaking on a daily basis and agree to become mortal again, do you think you might have second thoughts about taking such a step, and decide to remain god-for-life? Please don't object that Bush would not be able to find willing hands to execute such a plan. One of the distinguishing features of republican regimes as they degenerate into dictatorship is the reduplication and stove-piping of security and military organizations. All Bush needs is the loyalty of one such organization, willing to execute fully the powers freely given by Congress, and he can paralyze, subvert or destroy the others. If such a scenario doesn't actually play out, it will only be because Bush lacks the work ethic and intelligence to fully utilize the powers and opportunites for their misuse that we have foolishly thrown at the modern Presidency, and absolutely must recover before someone with the work ethic and intelligence of a Hitler sits in the Oval Office.

(I have to step out...)

Paul in LA @ 61:

(I have to step out...)

Larry Craig called, Paul's working.

reward if result in a conviction!

Preacher Boob @ 63-

Because I doubt Paul would be derailed by a statement like that- whether it was a tweek or a jab- I'm gonna call ya on that crack.

Not cool. Just not cool.

boot @ 66:

IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH

Imagine what we would find out if we at least started hearings?

I'd like to think we'd find out a whole lot.

But I watched a large amount of the DoJ hearins over the spring and summer. I think the only thing we'd learn durin' the impeachment process is that Republicans who work in the Executive Branch seem to be passin' around a virus that 'causes memory loss.

Paul in LA @ 51:

War Crimes @ 48 "Paul, didn't you hear. Impeachment is off the table. If the DNC will not imepach now, why will they ever impeach?"

Paul: The impeachment power won't work because WE HAVE HAD A COUP. The R (and DINO) politicians still support their thug and his policies.

Response: That's irrelevant. It could happen -- there are other options to prosecute a sitting President outside impeachment, outside Congress. Fedearl government "coup" doesn't mean all are required to follow the lawless.

Paul: So, yeah, we could have an impeachment (we are only 30 votes away). It could be done. And then the conviction process would FAIL, and Bushco would have all it needs to run right over us some more.

Response: Counting the votes efore they are cast. A nuremburg, final arguments: "If you fail to convict, then this means there wasno war, no slavery, no mass murders." Same can be done with Bush: "If you fail to convict, then there was no prisoner abuse, no FISA violations, and no illegal war crimes in Iraq." Let the Senate get stuck with their final vote. Doing nothing -- especially without conducting a trial, and pointing ot the "chance" that there will be no conviction -- is alleged copmlicity with war crimes.

PauL: Impeachment is off the table because there aren't enough loyal Republicans to vote the facts instead of their complicity in these crimes.

Response: Impeachment is off the table because the DNC leadership is allegedly complicit with GOP war crimes planning. Tehre are enough DNC Members of Congress, with the GOP, who support an investigation. Pelosi is blocking it.

When there is evidence of wrongdoing, but not leadership, that government is no longer connected with law. It is illegitimate.

We don't need to follow the lawless. They can be prosecuted for war crimes, and conspiracy to block enforcement of Geneva.

Other countries have little reason to listen to the US claims. Rather, the US plans appear to be linked with war crimes.

ON the table: Either the US governmetn enforces Geneva with trials (impeachment or prosecutions), or other nations may lawfully using military force to enforc Genea, which this US Congcerss refuses to enforce. It would be preferable if Congress, not the world military forces, enforced Geneva.

Congress, in part, called for this NIE: to review what's changed, in light of the bungling over the Iraq WMD data.

Congerss argued, "We don't have time to impeach; we need to investigate."

Well, the NIE is the fruit of Congerssional leadership calling for an investigation. Time to confront Congress: "You have your evidence. WHat is your plan to impose disciplineo n this President, which has been lacking since 2001, especially since 2003 when the Iranians changed course."

Preacher Boob @ 70:

Andy K @ 67:

Preacher Boob @ 63-

Because I doubt Paul would be derailed by a statement like that- whether it was a tweek or a jab- I'm gonna call ya on that crack.

Not cool. Just not cool.

Call all you like. Paul is a putz.

Whaddya find so disagreeable about his comments? His tone? His content? What, exactly?

Bush has no problem pushing the government to monitor our phone calls, emails, financial records, etc.
But yet the people's government destroys its own written communication so there is no paper trail, no accountability, no smoking gun, & no evidence. That is the behavior of criminals. I am just amazed that every week there is a new revelation with this administration and they get away with it!

1/3 of the country is stupid, 1/3 is corrupt, and 1/3 is to scared to do anything... thank god our 1/3 has the Internets...

That's right. I would like to know what is going to be done about this. It seems that congress is just pooh poohing everything they turn up that bush and company have done. And the keep on doing it, because they know congress lets them.

Can any body, any body at all tell us what in the hell would have happened if President Clinton had done just one of the things bush has done. Hell they probably would have sent them all to an undisclosed location and no body ever heard of them again.

A third of the people who voted for Bush thought they were voting for the old man.
They watch FOX and listen to Limbaugh.
Dumb as a box of rocks.
They have no idea Saudi Arabia is at war with our country while the chimp aids the enemy.

All those e-mails gone. No doubt erased with an advanced rotational wiping program. It does beg a question however: what is going to left for George's presidential library? Not much I suspect. Just his coloring books and his favorite goat book.

totaly

It sounds like the White House needs someone competent in their IT department who knows how to restore data. I’ve got plenty of experience in data recovery, just show me where their data archiving system is at and hand me the tape backups.

Peter G @ 85:

All those e-mails gone. No doubt erased with an advanced rotational wiping program. It does beg a question however: what is going to left for George's presidential library? Not much I suspect. Just his coloring books and his favorite goat book.

Nah, they have their own mail server and since we all know the government loves to spend our tax dollars, you know they have a state of the art backup and data recovery storage library, they no doubt store to disk and archive to tape. I'll bet if someone deleted the war plans for Iran their IT department would have the recovered post haste. This lost e-mail thing is a load of bull shit that runneth over.

Preacher Boob-

It's 11:25 here in the Eastern Time Zone, and I've gotta be up at 6:30, so if ya answer, I will read ya in the mornin'.

What I find a bit amusin' about reactions to Paul's comments- and I tend to agree with him on a lot of points- is that he's some kinda troll because he tends to take a contrary view to people's ideas on how to deal with the administration. He's not friendly to the administration- not by a bit. In fact he seems to be thinkin' out peaceful and reasonable ways to deal with what the administraion has done.

Now a lot of people come in on the comments to posts like this one with their righteous indignance showin' screamin' "IMPEACH!" Okay, theoretically it's a good idea. Hell, ideally, it's a beautiful idea. Unfortunately we don't live in an ideal world. We live in a real world, where even if the Pelosi-lead House voted fer impeachment, there wouldn't be enough Republican Senators who would vote fer conviction.

Now ya could say, "Yeah, well at least they tried," and ya'd have respect fer those who voted fer impeachment- and well ya should have. But there's a great big chunk of voters who not only don't hang out at blogs, they don't even have computers. And a big chunk of those people vote fer someone they view- rightly or wrongly- as a winner. So when the Republicans dodge conviction they've got a lot more support than they went into the procedins with in the first place, while the progressives simply come across as those people who tried to make the country look bad.

And that is what Bushco would like to see happen. They know that they can't hide every rotten and miserable crime that they commit, but there are an awful lot of uninformed voters who the GOP knows they can manipulate, because those voters are scared- scared fer themselves and scared fer their country. Fear isn't irrational, but it will make people do irrational things.

Ya know, the Constitution is a great document, but it's flawed. Yes, we are a democracy, and we think that's a good thing, but democracy is a weapon that cuts both ways. Rule by the whim of the majority can be a dangerous thing- ask Socrates. So we built a republic, where the democratically elected can, theoretically, make prudent decisions to govern us, and wisely protect us from ourselves. Ours is a government with which ya must show patience. And that patience is severely tested in times like these when the overwhelmin' majority has its will blocked by unwise men and women who vote not fer the interest of the people but fer the interest of their own power. They turn the Constitution against itself.

Now this whole Constitutional crisis should be self correctin'. The only things that stand in the way of this correction are the re-election of those who wish to continue blockin' the will of the people or a coup. And it's not a bad idea to prepare to thwart a coup. But, in the eventuality that there is no coup ya've gotta stick by those who work to uphold the will of the people.

Now I've read Paul a lot, and I agree with damn near everything he has to say on these topics. I was postin' comments here sayin' the same things long before I was aware of Paul. What Paul has been preachin' here is patience and rationality. He doesn't get hot-headed. On the other hand, he ain't the most jocular feller here. But his tone shouldn't throw ya off his message. So cut him some slack. And if ya disagree with what he's sayin', debate him with facts. Name callin' isn't an argument.

Rant off. GNA!

Andy K @ 93:

Preacher Boob-

It's 11:25 here in the Eastern Time Zone, and I've gotta be up at 6:30, so if ya answer, I will read ya in the mornin'.

What I find a bit amusin' about reactions to Paul's comments- and I tend to agree with him on a lot of points- is that he's some kinda troll because he tends to take a contrary view to people's ideas on how to deal with the administration. He's not friendly to the administration- not by a bit. In fact he seems to be thinkin' out peaceful and reasonable ways to deal with what the administraion has done.

Now a lot of people come in on the comments to posts like this one with their righteous indignance showin' screamin' "IMPEACH!" Okay, theoretically it's a good idea. Hell, ideally, it's a beautiful idea. Unfortunately we don't live in an ideal world. We live in a real world, where even if the Pelosi-lead House voted fer impeachment, there wouldn't be enough Republican Senators who would vote fer conviction.

Now ya could say, "Yeah, well at least they tried," and ya'd have respect fer those who voted fer impeachment- and well ya should have. But there's a great big chunk of voters who not only don't hang out at blogs, they don't even have computers. And a big chunk of those people vote fer someone they view- rightly or wrongly- as a winner. So when the Republicans dodge conviction they've got a lot more support than they went into the procedins with in the first place, while the progressives simply come across as those people who tried to make the country look bad.

And that is what Bushco would like to see happen. They know that they can't hide every rotten and miserable crime that they commit, but there are an awful lot of uninformed voters who the GOP knows they can manipulate, because those voters are scared- scared fer themselves and scared fer their country. Fear isn't irrational, but it will make people do irrational things.

Ya know, the Constitution is a great document, but it's flawed. Yes, we are a democracy, and we think that's a good thing, but democracy is a weapon that cuts both ways. Rule by the whim of the majority can be a dangerous thing- ask Socrates. So we built a republic, where the democratically elected can, theoretically, make prudent decisions to govern us, and wisely protect us from ourselves. Ours is a government with which ya must show patience. And that patience is severely tested in times like these when the overwhelmin' majority has its will blocked by unwise men and women who vote not fer the interest of the people but fer the interest of their own power. They turn the Constitution against itself.

Now this whole Constitutional crisis should be self correctin'. The only things that stand in the way of this correction are the re-election of those who wish to continue blockin' the will of the people or a coup. And it's not a bad idea to prepare to thwart a coup. But, in the eventuality that there is no coup ya've gotta stick by those who work to uphold the will of the people.

Now I've read Paul a lot, and I agree with damn near everything he has to say on these topics. I was postin' comments here sayin' the same things long before I was aware of Paul. What Paul has been preachin' here is patience and rationality. He doesn't get hot-headed. On the other hand, he ain't the most jocular feller here. But his tone shouldn't throw ya off his message. So cut him some slack. And if ya disagree with what he's sayin', debate him with facts. Name callin' isn't an argument.

Rant off. GNA!

the boys a know it all goober!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hellllloooooo???? Anybody home here? The nimble whores of the Vichy Congress will do NOTHING about this gargantuan crime, because many of those millions of illegally "deleted" emails incriminate THEM!!! Dims, Repthugs, their aides, secretarys, boyfriends, mistresses, men's room contacts, wives, husbands, bastard children, illegal immigrant servants, proteges, corporate owners, terrorist pals, escort services, hangers on, and assorted bagmen, ALL named, all deals TIME STAMPED AND DATED!! Do you think they want to unearth such a massive body of damning detail that could send large numbers of them to long stints in nasty ol' Federal PRISON???? WAKE THE FUCK UP!

We all sit here pathetically wringing our hands and whining "Gee why doesn't Congress do something?", like, their jobs, when it's perfectly obvious that, if they did, what would be unearthed in those ten million missives would make Abramoff and the K Street brothel inhabitants look like a prayer meeting at Pastor Bob's Nursing Home for Paraplegic Nonogenarians.

The Republic is DEAD. If there were any true Patriots left, they'd be storming DC right now. But we're a nation of impotent cowards, reduced to hiding under our beds in fear that somebody might blow up something, somewhere, which HASN'T HAPPENED HERE SINCE 2001, and we deserve everything we get.
I urge everyone here to stop wasting their time calling Congress, and start marching.

When I was in jail, they let me do my emails on the sargent's laptop. I know I must still have those Steven Hadley emails. Those intolerant, buttondown guys are dying to bust out. Steven ran to find some of those napkins with the cool White House embossed Seal on them. He's what you call a early ejaculator. He couldn't even get it going, until I started reading an article about Don Rumsfeld getting the Medal of Freedom. Guys really do look hot wearing medals. I'd do Don - Wouldn't you?

Yo Grandma... I'm no "Marcher", but I love to dance. How about you?

Hiya, tyree. How ya been?

whizkid @ 68:

But now with the NIE plus the e-mails they have the facts to impeach.

We have had the facts to impeach for six years, whiz.

Read Conyers' book (The United States versus George W. Bush, about $10 at Amazon). From cerca 2004 it lists 25 major felonies by the Bushies. That still doesn't change the number of votes.

whizkid @ 86:

I believe tyree says Paul from LA is a total tory.
The pinging is hard to follow.

Direct statement probably works best.

--I'm-- a Tory? FU, did YOU protest today?

You and tyree are all talk, so far as I know. What do you actually do for change other than attack the wrong people?

Impeach, imprison. What more do we need?

Nancy Pelosi (Speaker of the out-house) it's time to dump the sh-t; pull-up your panties (or forget the panties) and put IMpeachment banc on the table; before angry AMERICA throw you in with the crap catcher.

CODE PINK around your house are turning COLD BLUE from being CODE RED ANGRY.

If in FACT that 10 Million e-mails has been deleted...............this act in itself IS grounds for probable cause that a conspiracy to obstruct justice. THEREFORE THEY ARE GUILTY.

ardee @ 79:

1/3 of the country is stupid, 1/3 is corrupt, and 1/3 is to scared to do anything... thank god our 1/3 has the Internets...

... Exactly.

We best bunker down, boyos, it's going to get rough.

Does anyone for a second believe this corrupt administration has not engaged in unlawful activity? If ever impeachment was an imperative, it's now.

I highly doubt this is true. Illegally delete thousands of e-mails? Who thinks of this stuff?

Fuck paperz e male and wordz, itz all for my i's only anyways.

White House doesn't seem so stupid now, does it?
The NSA is a nice thought but who gives orders to the NSA?

A person above noted that it is probably 100 gig of data.
Text compresses really well.
That would make a nice DVD set if anybody as the opportunity and cojones.
Put it on the web.
A few million people can review it and it will _never_ get lost.

The simple fact is since the Nixon pardon, it is futile too try and impeach or punish a sitting president, or his party if they are in power, but this can be corrected if they leave office in disgrace, and voters put them out of power, there is then no longer anyone too succeed them as Gerald Ford did Nixon during the watergate scandals and cover up for his bosses crimes and pardon him, same goes for the underlings who are needed too testify against those above them, Scooter Libby got off because his co-conspirators new if he was not taken care of, they would be next..., so moral of my idea is democrats take the white house in 2008, and a few more seats in congress, senate and then initiate serious investigations the republicans cannot block, cannot suppress, with a democratic president in office no "pardons", no clemency, no get out of jail free cards..., if the evidence from the investigations warrants criminal indictments [and I cannot believe they do not], indict them, give them a fair trial, if convicted send them too prison as a example too the next crowd, what can happen and see a whole new set of attitudes out of these corrupt republicans who think all they have too do is repeat the watergate fiasco too avoid prosecution....! Impeachment is useless when a entire party/white house is corrupt and co-conspiracy in the crimes, it would be like asking the mafia too indict their own...

CHIMPEACH!

It's called complicity when one party is a co-participant in a conspiracy.

That would be House Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi
and
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid

10 million more crimes by this administration against the American people.
What do they have to do to be impeached? Is Dennis Kucinich the only
American with enough courage to try to bring these criminals to justice?

Impeach Bush and Cheney NOW!
Dennis Kucinich - 08 - It's time for integrity in the White House.

Ten million? These folks at the white house much be as quick on their emailing as Santa is delivering presents! No doubt they've probably deleted a bunch, but TEN MILLION seems like a lot unless daily spam was included.

Erasing e-mails, yet another infringement on our rights by the gov't. Add it to the ever-growing list of violations:
They violate the 1st Amendment by opening mail, caging demonstrators and banning books like "America Deceived" from Amazon.
They violate the 2nd Amendment by confiscating guns during Katrina.
They violate the 4th Amendment by conducting warrant-less wiretaps.
They violate the 5th and 6th Amendment by suspending habeas corpus.
They violate the 8th Amendment by torturing.
They violate the entire Constitution by starting 2 illegal wars based on lies and on behalf of a foriegn gov't.
Support Dr. Ron Paul and save us all.
Last link (unless Google Books caves to the gov't and drops the title):
America Deceived (book)

Support Dr. Ron Paul and Ban a woman's medical rights to choose.

When we secure copies of these 10 million emails, i wonder how long it will take to categorize them, e.g.,

How many were Leezzaa ordering crotchless thongs from Frederick's of Hollywood, to please (or perhaps, gift) her female 'friends'.

How many were DickHead ordering stroke porn pics from 'Males for Men'?

How many were DickHead's wife's, acquiring Penthouse letters to plagiarize for her next novel?

How many were from the NeoCon Zionist cabal contingent, subscribing to gay porn sites to see uncircumsized dicks, just for the novelty?

Did Laura order standard heterosexual porn sites photos to see what 'regular guys' dicks looked like, and is that what caused her depression?

Were any emails sent to other than porn sites, like, for example, threatening Ahmadinejad with cutting off his Cuban source of cigars by nuking Havana?

yogi-one @ 131 "Nancy is is a traitor to America, and should be
prosecuted right along with the rest."

You're slandering an excellent person. Of course, in the play of your political anger,
you think that it's justified, but you're wrong. It's not justified. It's a lie.

IF the Speaker were a 'traitor,' in your hyperbole, then she would have immediately
put forward an impeachment, and washed her hands of the Senate's guaranteed failure to convict.

A 'traitor' would just crash that train and look around saying "Who me?"

You know. Who me?, like you do, yogi. You just need someone to blame, and you blame the wrong people.
And you slander them with the most extreme jargon, without ANY analysis other than that single political fact,
ill-considered and leaping to false conclusions of the most scurrilous sort.

Is this really the same Jack Cafferty who also said yesterday that Huckleberry should get a "pass" for not knowing about the latest NIE report?

Someone must've put something in his scotch!

What does it take for Congressional Democrats to do their Constitutional duty and impeach him? Considering it took all of about a week or two for them to f*** up Katrina, they could potentially do a lot more damage to the country and to the government (who knows what documents were shredded and burned), they could do a lot of damage in the next 13 months. I expected Republicans not to do it, but just doing all these Congressional inquiries, hearing about the crap the Executive Branch is doing, and still say "well no we can't impeach him now", is exactly why Democrats have a reputation of being cowards.

I am going to admit right now I didn't read any of the comments before posting this so if it echos someone else, well, too fucking bad.

With that in mind, I'd just like to say to Smirkey McDumbshit and his pals:

Bullshit.

I, unlike the Senate the House or the Press Corps, am a working Sr. Unix Systems Administrator.
I am a generalist.
This means that I don't just specialize in adding and removing account and patching the OS.
I do it all.

I run the mail system.
I run the web servers.
I run the DNS services.
LDAP is mine to control.
As are the application servers, the authentication servers, the VPN appliances, the database servers and most relevant:

The backups.

These asshats are lying to you, the American people.
They are lying their ass's off because you don't know any better.
They are doing their best to prevaricate, obfuscate and mislead you as to how it all really works.

Allow me to enlighten you.

In a typical system configuration all files and directories are backed up to tape once a week.
This tape has a limited retention time of 1 year in most cases if the admin knows what he is doing.
In other words if the RNC and the Federal Government didn't hire retarded newbies (and they didn't) the tapes for the last year's weeklies are still available.

The monthly backups on the other hand are a different story altogether.
Those are put on tape and held for at least 7 years as is the industry standard.
If they are not retained this long someone is hiding something.

Then there are the year ends.
These are INDEFINITE retention.
In other words:

Forever.
Until the tape deteriorates beyond recovery.
Ad infinitum.
In perpetuity.

They are lying to you if they say say they don't have the emails. Period.
And a little tip - I can get a recovery together with the tapes delivered from 9 states away in under 48 hours.
48 hours.

Think about that, OK?

I should probably add:

They are lying to you if they say they don't have the emails on tape for recovery.
Unless of course they recalled those tapes and purposefully erased them before returning them to storage.

Their backup archive company will have records of the tape recalls and the names of the admins who requested and signed for them if that is the case.

The key point, they are once again lying to you, their employers.