White House's NIE story unravels even more
In the wake of a National Intelligence Estimate that concluded Iran stopped its nuclear-weapons program in 2003, the White House story on what Bush knew when has been burdened by contradictions and apparent falsehoods.
Yesterday, the White House's story changed.
President Bush was told in August that Iran's nuclear weapons program "may be suspended," the White House said Wednesday, which seemingly contradicts the account of the meeting given by Bush Tuesday.
Adm. Mike McConnell, the director of national intelligence, told Bush the new information might cause intelligence officials to change their assessment of the Iranian program, but said analysts needed to review the new data before making a final judgment, White House press secretary Dana Perino said late Wednesday.
"Director McConnell said that the new information might cause the intelligence community to change its assessment of Iran's covert nuclear program, but the intelligence community was not prepared to draw any conclusions at that point in time, and it wouldn't be right to speculate until they had time to examine and analyze the new data," Perino said in a statement issued by the White House.
The new account from Perino seems to contradict the president's version of his August conversation with McConnell and raised new questions about why Bush continued to warn the American public about a threat from Iran two months after being told a new assessment was in the works.
Of course it contradicts Bush's version. On Tuesday, the White House line was that Bush wasn't given any sense of what the latest Iranian intelligence said. On Wednesday, the White House line was that Bush was told the latest Iranian intelligence suggested Iran's nuclear program might not exist.
The president is stuck in a lie he can't get out of.
Bush = Lies, people die, corporations get windfalls
Clinton = Lied about affair
Whew....wow, the MSM sure knows what to report on...
I M P E A C H !!
of course bush is a goddamn liar.
impeach these son of a bitches.
They didn't think that the MSM would care. They never have before.
My guess is that in "journalism" schools they now teach------now if a President games intelligence to start a war fever and thousands die needlessly----or if an administration works to lie about a foreign threat to insure continuing profits for its corporate partners---that's not news.
Missing white women------that's news.
Damn liberal media!
below_me @ 3:
<------er!...what this guy said.
INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES FINALLY COOK THE CROOKS
"The president is stuck in a lie he can’t get out of."
So is the entire country, for what it's worth.
I think this is going to get traction... Oh, well, one can hope.
I live among the most stupid, ignorant, belligerent, arrogant and self centered people ever to inhabit the face of the earth. Of course our appointed president represents these values perfectly to the rest of the world and for us also.Could you ever imagine him carrying on an indepth intelligent ,with-out raising his voice ,about something he was dead wrong about? The Indians must have seen this coming 100's of years ago.Rape the planet, rape the middle East and lastly rape the people who happen to live here.
WE LAUGH AT STICKING IT TO THE MAN BECAUSE WE KNOW HE'S ALREADY STUCK TO US.
"Seemingly contradicts"???
I mailed a very nice but strong letter to Mr. Waxman saying this was the last straw for me and America. Please consider doing the same.
[b]http://oversight.house.gov/contact/[/b]
Will THIS finally be enough to get some goddamn impeach proceedings commencin'!?
the most interesting comment our president made in his news conference yesterday was the one about the people of Iran who should understand that their government leaders are causing the their countries reputation to be damaged throughout the world. would that be considered a Freudian slip?
this just proves how inept and downright foolish the are.their tripping over their own lies...
The president is stuck in a lie he can’t get out of.
Ya, its called his presidency.
Bush is a slimeball
Deja Vu?
Condi:
"I belive the PDB was titled 'Bin Laden determined to strike U.S.'
I think the intelligence community is getting tired of being the horses ass....
bush's whole life is just one damn lie after another.
the last year of this asshats administration is going to be brutal,on my patience.cause there ain't much left now.
Sounds like "The Revenge of the Analysts". Bushco wanted prepackaged and fraudulent analysis to justify yet another illegal war of aggression, and forced many who wouldn't roll over and p*** themselves like good little minions out of the intel agencies, leaving sycophants and toadies. Now the truth comes out, and Georgie the Lesser and Company have been caught with their flies open and something valuable dangling exposed.
how many impeachable offenses must there be before Congress acts?
Fear not, Republics. Bush will simply lie about lying. You will be so proud.
Bush is either a liar or an idiot or both. We,the American people,are the losers no matter what the answer is. How many excuses or revisions of history must be crammed down our throats until we can no longer take it? I would say that most of us are at the overload level. We certainly need to do something to change the current situation. Can we wait until January 2009 to return to reason? We need a public outcry.
That DIRTY SON OF A BUSH...LIED TO US!
again...heh heh heh.
Oh...if only the pants of the Pretzelnit liar catch on fire.
re#20
"cause there ain’t much left now."
That's because it's all reich.
If it "wouldn't be right to speculate", why was Bush drawling "World War III" at press conferences after he heard that? Don't tell me our hero Presnit was acting irresponsibly!
Imagine you are the owner of a company. One of your employees comes in and says I think we have a big problem. Would you just say to him or her, okay. Hell no, you would want details and if the employee didn't have all the details you would want to find out as much about them as you could as quickly as possible.
This shit coming from the white house is just that, total bullshit.
Bush's attitude on this is "So What? It's not like Congress is going to impeach me for something I've been doing for the last seven years."
The irony of his attitude is that he's right. A blatant lie like this, which even Morning Joe Scarborough has said severely damaged America's standing in the global community to the point that America is like the boy who cried wolf - is up front and center for even the blind in Congress to see that Impeachment is warranted, and not a peep from Pelosi or Reid to put impeachment back on the table.
Can we start an effort to relieve them of their leadership posts for dereliction of duty, now? Because a failure to impeach at this point, is a gross dereliction of their duties as elected officials sworn to uphold the Constitution.
My ideal Christmas present? Cindy Sheehan becomes the next Congressional member representing San Francisco.
It's amazing to listen to these enablers trying to clean this shit up. These assclowns want us to believe 2+2=5. Please keep the heat on this weak cocksucker Bush, he'll crack.
hey,it only took the media 7 years to catch up....well......some of them anyway
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, thrice and more shame on me.
Congress
"The president is stuck in a lie he can’t get out of."
My heart bleeds. We are stuck with a CRIMINAL we can't get rid of.
1. American people = Charlie Brown
2. Bush = Lucy
3. Truth = Football
4. Remove Football.
5. Go to 1.
Based on his track-record, he will get out of this lie just like he got out of the other hundred lies he's told as president... Congress doesn't have the balls to impeach these criminals. Pathetic, really.
This is what happens to Presidents and VPs who believe that:
1. Americans are stupid, so it doesn't matter what you say to them
2. The public has to be told stories, while only a few elites are entitled to the truth
3. The purpose of government is to help private corporations make money off wars
4. Americans are a resource, similar to "guest workers" that exist only to be exploited by the elites
5. America is a feudal oligarchy with a supreme ruler, and four castes: elite class, military class, merchant class, and worker class.
The question is how did Americans come to the point of electing people that fundamentally do not believe in the American system?
What is most amazing about this revelation is that NO ONE in the media looking back and saying, "Did they do the same think 5 years ago on Iraq?"
I don't think the Bush Administration just "suddenly" started making false claims about its enemies WHILE knowing the evidence was suggesting otherwise, in the past 12 months. It's the way the do business. Intelligence reports tell them what they DON'T want to hear, so they ignore it and/or cherry-pick those points that help support their case and ignore the rest.
Why isn't anyone in the Media talking about this latest news in the contact of Iraq?
Political Junkie @ 29 -- Cindy Sheehan?? PUHleeze.
Hey Republicans. Clinton LIED about a BJ and got slammed. Cool. Now where are you hypocritical mother fuckers while this son of a bitch (yes Barbara is a bitch) is destroying the country and its name with his fucking lies. Boy you Repubs need a hard swift kick up the ass!
repigs are in the know! the 08 elections in the bag and they know they got you fucked allready, you got cheated twice allready in 2000 and 04 !you had your votes thrown away, by diebold ,then they gave you a piss for nothing win in 06, was 06 rigged ? certainly ,it was just to make you think you had an honest election, they gave you just enough of a victory to lull you to sleep, the count was rigged they gave you back the repig liberman when you wanted him gone , they allowed the majority loss of congress knowing with liberman still in congress and enough republican light democrats in office that your not going to do them any great harm, its the presidential election they covet! and the repigs got it covered , they know wich states that they need and thoes states are in there pockets , congress is only going to work three five day weeks in 08 ,they announced that yesterday , and you think they are on our side ? thier not even worth the money they collect now and thier working four days for it, so dont be surprised when the elections won by who ever the corporations want in the whitehouse!!!!!!
Get on the horn folks and call Conyers and Pelosi (call local offices to get a human).
This new NIE stuff is Conspiracy To Defraud, plain and simple.
It also violates ther Patriot Act by intending to coerce or intimidate the populace or government.
They are Domestic Terrorists b their own laws.
Failure to Impeach Cheney now will result in election theft for sure.
Conyers
2615 W. Jefferson
Trenton, MI 48183
(734) 675-4084
Pelosi
San Francisco, CA 94102 - (415) 556-4862
This president has been stuck in a lie he couldn't get out of since siezing the White House in a coup d'etat.
>What is most amazing about this revelation is that NO ONE in the media looking back and saying, “Did they do the same think 5 years ago on Iraq?”
But Iraq is just so .... 2005 ya 'know...
and anyway its such a downer....Hey! lets move on a bomb someone else!
Google News has nothing about this that i can see.
The President lied once again to lay the ground work to kill innocent people, but Mit Romney is going to talk about religion today so who cares?
Meanwhile, if you think the US only tortures terrorism suspects guess again.
"This new NIE stuff is Conspiracy To Defraud, plain and simple.
It also violates ther Patriot Act by intending to coerce or intimidate the populace or government."
And if lets say ...a Speaker... has promised not to act on it, what is that?
"They are Domestic Terrorists b(y) their own laws."
How true. And not the first time.
What about violating the Presidential Records Act by "losing" millions of e-mails? Why isn't congress even considering impeachment? Bush/Cheney have broken too many laws to let off this easily. How do we get Pelosi & Reid off their butts and do something to see that justice is done by putting impeachment back on the table.
Once again I ask: why did Pelosi immediately after being elected as Speaker take impeachment off the table? She has never told us why she did this. I have never
seen a response to this question.
Fox will be there to cleanse the public's palate with more pr0n to make them forget dear leaders truth impairment
Can anyone explain to me NPR's assertion this morning that Busholini "praised" the intelligence agencies for their latest NIE???
Or is the answer that they've become National Propaganda Radio?!
Can anyone think of ANYTHING , anything, that this evil piece of shit called Bush HAS BEEN HONEST ABOUT ? JUST ONE THING ? IF SO PLEASE POST IT ...
Why are there continual questions such as 'Did Bush mean what he said?', 'What did Bush know and when?', 'Is Bush mistaken about.....?'
There are two things we know, for sure, absolutely, about this presidency:
1. Bush is an idiot.
2. Bush ALWAYS lies.
blue @ 49:
He said his dogs name is Barney.
Dr. Acula @ 48:
NPR made a sharp right turn when the former head of Voice of America took the helm some years back.
Recall that immediately following herr dubyah's threats of WWIII and Cheney's constant beating of the war drums, gas prices rose to new highs, the dollar sunk to new lows, and the markets took dive after dive. Analysts clearly pointed to the possible threat of war with Iran for the reason.
I'm telling ya, if his lips are moving this piece of shit is lying!
"The president is stuck in a lie he can’t get out of."
and a congress lacking in courage and interest in what is truly the correct thing to do to preserve the american constitution will bark, thump their chests with speech after speech and make not on damned move to remove a deserving person from the office of president of the united sates. why? hell if i know.
Can anyone think of ANYTHING , anything, that this evil piece of shit called Bush HAS BEEN HONEST ABOUT ? JUST ONE THING ? IF SO PLEASE POST IT …
probably when he said "the haves and the have mores, my base."
willie @ 56:
How about "A dictatorship would be a lot easier -- if I was the dictator".
willie @ 56:
"If this were a Dictatorship it'd be a heck of a lot easier. Just so long as I'm the Dictator."
George W. Bush
Capitol Hill, Washinton, D.C.
December 18, 2000
Almost drowned out in the noise following the release of the US intelligence report stating that Iran had abandoned its nuclear weapons program in 2003 is the impact this development will have on Middle East countries.
Simon Jenkins in the Arab News today writes that the intelligence report “says not much about present-day Iran, but volumes about present-day America. The paradigm of Western policy toward the Muslim world is changing. The age of paranoid belligerence may be coming to an end. With the impending demise of the Republican ascendancy, sanity is pushing its head above the parapet. As during the McCarthy episode, America has taken the world to the brink of chaos and is now hauling it back. Bush’s 'third world war' is on hold.”
Jenkins may be over-wrought in his assessment, but he points out what many Arabs are thinking: The US is now in a position of being forced back to a holding pattern. The US can't legitimately pursue its violent intentions on Iran.
The report considerably weakens the credibility of the US in the Middle East and further gives Russia and China reason to ignore the Bush administration's calls for an iron hand to deal with Iran. Gulf countries are more than a little nervous that the development will only further Iran's designs on the region.
Europe, which always had trust issues with the US since the invasion of Iraq, is likely to ignore the Bush administration's saber rattling. This leaves the Arab countries in a position to deal with Iran on their own. Since Iran now has the opportunity to strengthen its ties with Hezbollah and Syria and meddle in Iraq, Arab countries more than ever need sound, level-headed help from the US in keeping their neighbor in check
At the very least, the time is now ripe for negotiations. If the intelligence report is accurate and Iran is unable to build a nuclear weapon before 2010, then US has the better part of three years to negotiate a solution. And if a Democrat is elected president, it's likely that the new White House will adopt a policy of negotiations with Iran. What better opportunity for the Bush administration
to rehabilitate itself with a new course to stabilize the Middle East through artful negotiations instead of belligerence, and pave the way for the new president to further a plan for long term peace.
The Bush administration's policy of containment and ostracism has failed miserably. The intelligence report only further weakens that policy. Arabs are keeping count of the failures of the United States: Its occupation 0f Iraq, its mystifying tardiness in trying to find peace between Israel and the Palestinians, and its negligence in standing silent while Israel fought its ill-conceived war against Hezbollah.
The Gulf countries need a different tact. Despite the damage caused by the United States' carelessness, they still need and want the US to remain a presence to counter Iran's influence.
Mutt is making a live speech right now about his "faith" and is desperately and pathetically shilling to the extreme reich-wing base.
AIPAC: Intelligence makes case against Iran
Published: 12/04/2007
AIPAC says a U.S. national intelligence estimate bolsters the case to isolate Iran.
The American Israel Public Affairs Committee was reacting to a report that the assessments by all 16 U.S. intelligence agencies, declassified this week, is that Iran suspended a nuclear weapons program in 2003.
AIPAC spokesman Josh Block told JTA that if anything, the report showed that Iran had advanced further than was publicly known.
"Far from acquitting Iran, the NIE reveals that Tehran continues to violate the international community's calls to end the pursuit of the fuel cycle and the ability to make highly enriched uranium, concludes that Iran has utilized and has at its disposal a hidden, secret second unacknowledged, unmonitored track for enriching bomb fuel, and has engaged in a nuclear weaponization program, an assessment never before made public by the American intelligence community," Block said. "All in all, it's a clarion call for additional and continued effort to pressure Iran economically and politically to end its illicit nuclear programs."
Rob Wagner @ 59:
Prior to the report, the credibility of the US in the ME was already destroyed and irreparable. Why should ME countries forgive our country for invading and occupying two countries, resulting in countless civilian deaths, destabilizing a region, inflaming and radicalizing the populous, and, most importantly, over throwing a government that did not and could not attack our country.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY0rSkfsAPk
IAF chief draws Iran-Hitler link
mail E-mail News Brief
mail Tell the Editors
Published: 12/05/2007
The commander of the Israeli Air Force urged his top brass to consider Iran's president a possible modern Hitler.
Maj.-Gen. Eliezer Shkedi recently distributed a letter to senior Air Force commanders in which he noted the similarities between Adolf Hitler's pre-Holocaust rhetoric and the anti-Israel vitriol of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
“These statements, at this time, are becoming relevant in light of the direct and veiled threats of the Iranian president about the existence of the State of Israel," read the letter, which was leaked to Yediot Achronot. "The words take on special meaning in light of Iran’s efforts to build its military nuclear capabilities and deliver systems the can reach Israel.
"We must remember and not forget. We must rely only on ourselves," Shkedi concluded.
Shkedi is the Israeli military officer entrusted with contingency planning for a war with Iran, and his pilots have been training for long-range bombing runs. The Israeli Air Force is also in charge of missile defense systems.
Shkedi's deputy, Brig.-Gen. Amir Eshel, led an F-15 warplane formation that flew over Auschwitz in 2003, a ceremony designed to underscore Israel's vow to use military power to prevent a repeat of the Holocaust.
See?! This is why using the lie detector tests (instead of brain scans) would be good. We could hook-em up while they're at the press conferences or making speeches and show the scan images on a split-screen. That way we'd know instantaneously when they're fibbin'. There's also the possibility that we could hook the detector up to a taser, and whenever they told a lie they'd get zapped - right there on national TV.
Kathleen @ 61:
Wow, what a surprise, an Israeli group wanting to attack a ME country.....shocking.
george doesn't go drinking with his vp, since the dick got hit by the door.
The Political Junkie @ 29:
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I agree 100%! When we do our "House Cleaning" we must not forget what these craven dispicable criminals, both Repub and Dem, have done. Though Cindy Sheehan is a mess emotionally I'd vote for her if I still lived in the SF Bay area. We must start populating the House, Senate and White House with REAL American citizens, not a bunch of blue-blood aristocratic jerkwads. That might just solve a lot of our problems...
Another Bushlie huh? Watching this longrunnning farce from Sweden its scary. Not that we dont have political scandals but all this crap seven years of it and BushCheney still in office!!? Its absurd! They still raping the constitution, ignoring congress, supressing science, altering testimonies, "loosing" millions of e-mails (uh... oops?), threats of WW3, planting prostitutes as fake journalists in the WH presscorps (wtf!?) , lying to the real journalists etc etc ad infinitum. Its absurd!! You guys better take your democracy back ASAP
TURNING UP THE INFLAMMATORY RHETORIC
http://www.forward.com/articles/12203/
Intel Bombshell Sends Community Scrambling To Hold Line on Iran Threat
Israel Challenges U.S. Spies’ Report
By Marc Perelman
Wed. Dec 05, 2007
American Jewish groups are scrambling to reformulate their message on Iran following the release this week of a new American intelligence report that states with “high confidence” that Tehran halted its nuclear weapons program four years ago.
In a conference call Tuesday hurriedly arranged by the umbrella body of Jewish organizations, communal leaders decided to immediately send letters to the presidential candidates from both parties, urging them to continue pushing for sanctions against Iran.
According to participants in the conference call, concern is high that the unexpected conclusions drawn in the National Intelligence Estimate not only may lead Washington to withdraw the threat of military action against Iran but may also erode the recently reached international consensus on pressuring Iran to abandon its nuclear ambitions.”
CALL YOUR REPS LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU WANT THEM TO HONOR THE NIE REPORT AND THE IAEA’S FINDINGS NOT AIPAC.
we are
the ones stuck in
his creepy F*UCKING
LIES...
no sense in going to war over something that doesn't exist, right? umm...
Your blog title says it all "Cooks & Liars".
Kathleen @ 70:
Keep on fanning the flames that AIPAC is an all-powerful group running this country's foreign policy, you hack.
Mr. Bill @ 73:
I call it la boeuf avac frommage sur a brioche and you call it a Quarterpounder with cheese.
ysbaddaden @ 75:
Dontcha mean a "royale with cheese"?
George W. Bush has so far lied about Jack Abramoff, the Valerie Plame scandal, Iraq, Iran, Social Security, Medicare, WMD's, Saddam Hussein, Spying on Americans, Gonzales, the economy, ......Hell, you could list them all day...this man is a compulsive LIAR...he has apparently never told the truth about ANYTHING.
He doesn't belong in the White House, he belongs in jail.
Filthy Harry @ 15:
ROTFLMAO!! Thanks so much for the laughs... Aaah, this is so sweet! Okay bittersweet better describes it. I hope the only way out for this lying prick is a speedy trial and life as Bubba's beeotch! If Cheney went along for that ride, I'd be on my way to having my greatest wish fulfilled.
Dr. Acula @ 74:
Just the facts please
For God's sake already- IMPEACH this lying, inept, insane criminal.
Facts Kathleen? They're right there in the article you posted -- they're calling for SANCTIONS AGAINST IRAN, not WAR as Busholini would like.
We're in deep shit. This is the most obvious and worst lie yet from the president and the msm have no mention of the event or follow up on today's news. The president, congress, judiciary and the press are all in this together.
"Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive." (Sir Walter Scott)
I had an epiphany recently. Do we have a bunch of sociopaths in office? They don't even seem embarrassed when they're caught in a lie. Rather they're angry or just spin another lie to cover the first one. The trouble with sociopaths is that they don't play by the same rules as the rest of us do. They talk one game and play another. Perhaps the real reason this bunch is in office isn't for some high purpose such as service to country, but rather a massive redistribution of wealth from taxpayers to their cronies. Wars accomplish that aim. No-bid contracts accomplish that aim. I'm beginning to believe we're being orchestrated not by people with conservative values, but by sociopaths. I share the values of many conservatives - taxing and spending wisely, for example. Conservatives aren't inherently cruel and mean-spirited. But are Bush and Co. conservatives or sociopaths who are raping and plundering our nation?
Dr. Acula @ 81:
Not to get into the middle of this, cause I know where it's going...but sanctions are essentially declared war without the declaration and without the bombs and missiles.
Now, am I saying that we shouldn't sanction Iran...no...but I'm not saying we should either.
What I am saying is those determinations are made based on what is in our national interests.
Only boosh could arrange it so that America would keep hoping with baited breath for Germany to rescue us.
I'm a master baiter.
curtilingus @ 82:
Nope. The biggest lie whas GW Chimpy declaring his oath to defending the Constitution. Oh, and he lied about that TWICE.
Sanctions are not declared war without the declaration. We haven't had a declaration of war since WWII.
Sanctions are part of diplomacy which can go all the way from cultural/technological exchanges to lower level officials meeting from different countries, to summit meetings with world leaders, to restrictions on trade and shipping, to total embargoes, to mobilizations for military exercises (not actual war yet), to actual war and peace talks.
Sanctions are the lower end of restrictions and embargoes.
ysbaddaden @ 87:
I stand corrected on the formal definition. However, diplomacy is merely warfare concealed.
The president is stuck in a lie he can’t get out of.
Was that a U2 reference, Steve? ("Stuck In A Moment You Can't Get Out Of").
Nice touch (if it was).
Warfare - "Go fuck yourself"
Diplomacy - "I'm rather annoyed with you and look forward to the day that you will end your egregious behavior and join with me in a spirit of community. Until then, no weapons for you."
Liberal AND Proud @ 88:
It became an art form during the Cold War.
However, your not declaring war everytime you turn back a shipment of goods for being not up to standards.
Unless we're at war with China now.
Sorry everyone, but I'm fixated on the sociopath theory.
Profile of the Sociopath
This website summarizes some of the common features of descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths.
*Glibness and Superficial Charm
* Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
* Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
* Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
* Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
* Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
* Incapacity for Love
* Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
* Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
* Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
* Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
* Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
* Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
* Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
* Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
Other Related Qualities:
1. Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
2. Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
3. Authoritarian
4. Secretive
5. Paranoid
6. Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
7. Conventional appearance
8. Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
9. Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
10. Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
11. Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
12. Incapable of real human attachment to another
13. Unable to feel remorse or guilt
14. Extreme narcissism and grandiose
15. May state readily that their goal is to rule the world
[Edited. Please use links to get your point across, thank you-Sitemonitor]
Sorry everyone, but I'm fixated on the sociopath theory.
How do you attach a link here?
Hey I like that comment. Please don't take it down because its too long. It is a great read.
I assume #92 up there is referring to Bush. It's a bit long, but it sure explains why the crazy bastard just keeps lying in the face of obvious facts that contradict what he has said. It's amazing and frightening to watch.
More evidence is the way poor Jenna was shit-scared of "Daddy" when Ellen had her call her parents. It really made me feel awful to watch Jenna cowering and kissing up to "Daddy" on the phone. After all, she's a grown woman and the fear she showed seemed unnatural under the circumstances.
I have a friend-- aww come on, it could happen--- who still says that W is "an honorable man"
I don't get it.
Sorry... just don't.
I have determined that my friend is a moron.
This scares me because of that "birds of a feather" thing.
I suspect that in a few years, when I have lost my mind, I will become a Republican.
PLEASE... if you see that this has happened... shoot me--- I am sure I will feel nothing.
92 MN USA Says: (quite a bit)
-------------are you getting paid by the word ?
I was once paid by the pound.... but that was when I was a dogcatcher
Mark Mywords @ 98:
No, I just haven't figured out how to do a link. I ended up copying the entire piece then accidentally posted it.
He got out of all the other lies. Why not this one??
Wait till the truth about the ptowers comes out. The US looks bad now but Israel will look worse.
The US looks bad now but Israel will look worse.
Lie, lie, lie, blah, blah, blah. Nothing will be done about it.
Dr. Acula @ 38:
What do you do on this board except troll?
So, from 2003 to now, no one in the WH has a clue about the status of Iran's nuclear programme???? Everyone kept it hushed up? No one even asked? So Bush felt free to talk of nukular holocausrt and WWIII. Shoot the f*cker, I say.
Perino is trying to spin her own spin on the fact the bush lied
Dr. Acula @ 38:
WHY the f--k NOT? She's got ten times more integrity that the stogges in there now.
Kathleen @ 61:
All in all, it's time to neuter Israel's nuclear program, so that ass*&^s from AIPAC won't have the backing of the fascist country to announce that Iran needs to be isolated. If the U.S. cut its funding of Israel's economy and military, the Middle East would be a lot quieter.
PS Don't forget, a rat exterminator (and scuzbucket) became the "f--kin' hammer" (puke). What a f--kin' joke. -->(*stooges)
MN USA @ 83:
Really?? No kidding?????! Where've you been for the last 7 years?? Of course, Bush is a sociopath - I've been writing that here for a long time. That's why he was "made" President - to do the bidding of the powers that be and not care - he doesn't care who suffers, who dies, as long as he's feelin' no pain.
And what conservative Republicans do you know in the past 30 years who've been "taxing and spending wisely??"
Georgi @ 9:
You're going to send someone to break their legs?
Dana Perino is an even bigger c*nt than I first gave her credit for (watch the C-span video).
(Sorry about my bad bad potty mouth this morning, but it's just how this whole friggin' WH is making me feel today... and most every day.)
PS these little WH "gaffes" result in things like, a million dead and counting. Next a war with Iran. We have every reason to get angry. It's American GENOCIDE.
George f--king W. f--kin' Bush is a SOCIOPATH. Just read --92 MN USA Says: -- and tell me it ain't true!!!
Could this bit of NIE truth be revenge for Plame and the bush gang's warning to the intelligence community to push lies or else? Just wondering.
PassedPawn @ 115:
I was thinkin the same thing....maybe they'll take the next step and rendition and waterboard this entire administration...luxury suites at Guantanamo for everyone!
liberalNmoderation @ 116:
I'm not a big fan of the CIA's actions over the years, but it sure is nice to have the CIA to check and balance that junta in the White House.
I think the intelligence community saw what Bush is trying to do, see no reason for it, are refusing to go along with him and get scapegoated all over again.
Someone leaked this, and probably because the intel community refuses to take the blame for shyt like 9/11 and the Iraq War, not to mention that this Administration "outed" one of their own (Valerie Plame) just because her husband said there was no reason to invade Iraq.
Probably going after bigger fish than Bush. Say, like Dick Cheney, perhaps....and this is the only way they can do it.
"The president is stuck in a lie he can't get out of."
ADD IT TO THE LIST.
When the president lies to the people... THAT's TREASON.
You can be dead-ass certain that there will be at least two sides to every story out of the White House.
Bush's, and the Truth.
(”Stuck In A Moment You Can’t Get Out Of”)
If only Bush were Stuck in a Place He Couldn't Get Out Of
HELL
Gee, that's odd - no mention in Benen's post, nor in the link to the CNN story by Ed Henry, of a possible rationale for Iran to suspend its illicit nuclear weapons program when they did - six months after the invasion of Iraq. Think there might - just might - be a connection, guys?
Amitola @ 110:
Some of us are a little slower than others. It took me a while to make the trip from incompetent to mean-spirited to greedy to sociopathic.
How about a nuclear free ME, no exceptions and then the rest of the world.These things are like breast implants for bulls who's thingy is quite tiny but want everyone to perceive them as not studs instead of duds.
Just because Bush has been caught publicly with his pants down doesn't mean the next day there would be an impeachment hearing.
First, an investigation would need to be opened on this, and Bush would need to go under oath about what he knew and when, and if he lied about it the way Clinton lied about his BJ under oath, then the next step could feasably be impeachment.
But since the Administration has demonstrated that they are very good at a) throwing human shields in front of investigations b) obstructing and stifling investigations, there's no way we can have this lie as On the Record goods for an impeachment proceeding. So to discuss it seems to be getting way ahead of oneself at this stage...
And who is going to do anything about it.....?
And even the August timeline is quite generous. Seymour Hersh reported more than a year ago that this NIE was floating around and causing a huge fight in high government circles, and that Dick Cheney was blocking its release. Hersh's reporting on this was no secret -- he was interviewed about it on CNN (for which Dana Perino later criticized CNN) and elsewhere.
The president is stuck in a lie he can’t get out of." What has the President -- as Commander in Chief -- been targeting in Iran since 2003? Looks like he was planning to attack targets he knew -- or should have known -- were not related to any bonafide military necessity, imminent threat, or military threat to the United States. That another way of saying, "Since 2003 he has been directing his combatant commanders to target in Iran facilities and others things he cannot justify under Geneva, the laws of war, or the US Constitution.
He can't get out of this. But will Congress bother to explore what "this" is? If they do nothing, then since 2003, the President "hasn't" been targeting anything in Iran. What's he really been doing since 2003?
Time to confront this "Commander in Chief" on what he's been doing since 2003; which specific targets in Iran he was targeting; and why anyone should believe he was targeting anything in Iran related to anything which Geneva permits. Time to challenge this President on planned war crimes planning in Iran since 2003.
Oh God....don't tell me....you mean the little prick may have lied?
another day, another scandal...bushs deck of neocon cards is collapsing.
Keith Olbermann’s Latest Special Comment
Bush: Pathological liar or idiot-in-chief?
Olbermann: We have either a president who is too dishonest to restrain himself from invoking World War III about Iran at least six weeks after he had to have known that the analogy would be fantastic, irresponsible hyperbole, or we have a president too transcendently stupid not to have asked, at what now appears to have been a series of opportunities to do so, whether the fairy tales he either created or was fed were still even remotely plausible. Full story
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22134108/
More Special Comments
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16270176/
I like to read the Special Comments on bathroom walls.
I correct the spelling and grammer.
That boy who cried wolf shit is starting to catch up to our little deciderer... Not that it matters..... After all, the proper response to this dreck and all the rest of the shit he's pulled is 'off the table'.... Apparently the snark of many many many posters and observers of these last seven years are correct.. Fucker needs to get a blowjob before any of us will see any justice rendered... And then there's Darth... Oh brother... I don't even want to get into that pricks criminality right now..............JD
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