Bay Buchanan's World Is A Scary Place.
By John Amato Thursday Dec 20, 2007 5:02pm
O'Reilly tried to make the case that the outrage from the left against Bush is for exactly the same reasons as the right-wing hatred of Hillary Clinton. BillO cites a new poll that shows Hillary has high negatives in the presidential race that kicks off his segment. For a well-balanced broadcast he had on two right-wing talking heads to agree with his hypothesis and defend Bush. That's the FOX way. The ex-MSNBC'er, Monica Crowley (she keeps on ticking) and Bay Buchanan (ex-Tancredo supporter) were on hand to back up O'Reilly's inaccurate and misleading argument. What a surprise. It is correct to say that right wingers have their own illness associated to the Clinton family, but for President Bush---his actions led us to where we are today.
Bay Buchanan does her brother (a VDARE man) proud with this apologetic and unrealistic analysis of George Bush---because as we all know---you can't fault the man. He was only following his heart--or something....
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Buchanan: Personal, but it's different in this regard. George Bush didn't do anything. He's just being himself. He's just following policies he believes in. In the Clinton case, she made decisions that has brought this upon her, She's made decisions...
See what I mean?
O:Reilly: They're calling him a liar a deceiver...
Crowley: Oh, and even worse than that. War criminal.
O:Reilly: That's not ideology, that's personal.
Buchanan: You got to understand where it's coming from on the left. The liberal elite are intellectual snobs. They only respect people who are very good with the numbers and the quotes and the facts and the figures. They have to be very high intellectual level. They never respected President Reagan.
Well, excuse me for wanting a President that has a particular quality---intelligence. Sorry I cut in on her transcript...
Buchanan: ...and then you take somebody that they don't respect and you give them power. And there is George Bush, this fellow that they don't even like his speech pattern, becomes President of the US, then takes them to war...And that's the anger...
O'Reilly: That's personal, about Bush's religion about his inarticulate presentation--see--what Hillary Clinton and President Bush have in common ladies is this is all personal. And the left says Bush is dishonest, he's a rube, he's a superstitious guy who believes in God, but it all comes down to the same thing. It's personal.
Buchanan: Personal, but it's different in this regard. George Bush didn't do anything. He's just being himself. He's just following policies he believes in. In the Clinton case, she made decisions that has brought this upon her, She's made decisions...
This analysis should be banned from TeeVee and Bay should be booted out of the studio, but it's really the gold standard of 24/7 news. The executives allow this type of banter to be used as political thought.
You see. Bush is a common man, who simply believes in what he's doing. He really had nothing to do with the direction his administration took. It was just a few policies he developed that happened to turn a few mean and hateful folks against him. One of these fluffy policies that upset the DFHC (dirty f*&king Hippy Caucus) and a Neocon platter deluxe is called "preemptive strike,"---which allowed him to invade a country that didn't attack us; causing much death and destruction.
And what about those pesky signing statements? Well, Congress passed bills that didn't go along with his policies also, so he had to void them secretly. And it was his policy to implement torture and rendition. And what about Hurricane Katrina? The list goes on and on...
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'The left are intellectual snobs. They only respect people who are good with facts'.
Haha, yes-- that's so snobby.
John: Sometimes I think that it would be better or more wise NOT to include on C&L
any mention or recognization at all for Faux Noise reports. Most of us open minded
and wise posters here never tune in to that channel and I, personally, do not intend
to do so in the future. Perhaps,or just maybe, if WE were not exposed to the misleading
information and lies presented on Faux Noise we'd all be better off and our temperment
would improve and angry might deminish. I do realize that many of us would be, thankfully,
unaware of the trash and deceit presented on Faux Noise if it were not for your thread,
however, I for one would not miss such garbage. Just saying....
Hey! Wait just a damn minute. The Chimp is the deciderator. How dare Hillary usurp his authority on this front? G-e-e-e-z....
No one hates Bush for lying us into a war that is ruining our nation. Nope, no one.
Okay is it just me or does Bay remind you of that angry girl's phys ed coach from high school?
Bay and Pat try to out apartheid each other every time the red light of the camera is on
I think its just Pat with a wig on....
Bay,(who would name their kid Bay?) and her mindless kind would say it's the victims fault if GW shot a baby on live TV.
Bay Buchanan is much dumber than her brother, in fact, she's not a great deal smarter than O'Reilly.
...but I hate both of them. Whatever am I to do?
Idiocracy in action
What was that about Media Matters about lying?? Its a known fact that Hadley said he inadvertantly left the African Uranium mention in the STOF address when the CIA told the Administration that this needed to come out due to suspected validity.
So it's a sign of character to invade foreign nations to steal their oil and murder 600,000 of their citizens, deny healthcare to your own citizens, help your buddies make millions in Iraq from the blood of american soldiers, refuse to serve in Vietnam when it was your turn, allow 911 to happen despite repeated warnings, refuse to help New Orleans to rebuild because you're too busy playing guitar, refusing to "testify" before the 911 commission while under oath and only with your puppet master, Boss Cheney, steal two elections, spy on your own citizens, torture innocent human beings,
Tell me, Bay, What the fuck does this asshole have to do to earn your disgust?????
Are you so morally bankrupt that you can't see the hypocrisy before your eyes? I guess the answer is a resounding yes. What a pathetic excuse for a human being you are. Small wonder that you are a member of the salvation industry. All because Bill got a blow job in the oval office. Ask O' Liely about his sexual harassment settlement of a producer in his companys' employ. Of course you see so much of that in the salvation industry that it must seem normal to you!
BTW Bad hair day?
George Bush does *not* eat kittens! He's just being himself, following policies he believes in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6v1HIIcbnA
OTOH, Hillary Clinton *does* eat puppies. Film at 11.
Bill talking about extreme right pinheads??? HAHAHAHAHAH Is he positioning himself for a democratic takeover?
Well, I just cannot begin to guess why Democrats do not want to show up on Faux Noise.
One thing is absolutely clear to me. We will have had 8 years of monkeys flinging excrement on the walls throughout the White House, and wether it is Hillary or any other Dem. that gets the nomination, I do not care. It will take a Dem to clean up the foul stench in the White House. I am not a Democrat, and with Cynthia McKinney running as a Green, I'm damn sure not one of those either, but our nation cannot allow the Repugs to have another 4 years of controlling the White House. That would complete the planned disaster.
BB=yawn.
more proof in the continuing dysfunctional gop and reichwing fucked up assholes.
you would think they would finally stop binding over in front of each other, that large ladle must hurt even now. and you thought they all liked fudge.....well kinda !
How in the wide f*cking world of sports do idiots like this exist in 21st century America. It's only funny until you actually think about all those viewers that Bill rants about constantly, at least 2/3rds of them anyways, just sucking it all up, all of them completely devoid and ignorant of logic and reason as the people on the screen spewing this crap. F*cking hypocrites, all of them....
john, who cares what the right says about hillary clinton?
this election is about getting as many corporate scumbags out of office as humanly possible.
clinton voted for letting bush invade iraq -not just the biggest foreign policy blunder in american history, a likely war crime, in worldwide consensus.
and she won't even say, "sorry".
so, no, i don't think she's entitled to a pay raise, and she doesn't particularly strike me as "leadership material."
i'm cool with a woman president. but not with this woman as president.
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Initiating a war and it's subsequent continuation of a sovereign Nation that posed no threat to the U.S.A. isn't a war crime, then maybe authorizing the torture of prisoners of that war might be?
But I digress... I stutter... I don't hate myself. I misspeak, I don't hate myself. What I don;t do is lie to the American public as to the necessity to start a war that takes the lives of over a MILLION people. GENOCIDAL!
However, I do take it personally that our reputation and namesake has been drug through the mud to protect those few who seem to think that warrantless is legal, or torture is legal or committing fraud is legal. And if I had a son or daughter in that continued occupation of a nation that posed no threat to our sovereignty, died, how could I not(!) take it personally.
These blowhards have it in for Fascism. And they get paid to promote it, to boot!
And what pisses me off is that they enjoy spreading that idealism on the airwaves.
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Its just a sad to think of all the 'right' minds that have been lost in the 20 + years of marinating in the likes of Rush, Bill and Sean. Is there any hope for them?
Shows like the OReilly factor are there to push the right/left illusion. Obviously it works. In reality the Clinton and Bush families are the same. They probably have Christmas together and laugh at us all.
Actually...
I have to concur .... It does happen once in a blue moon... Hillary does indeed have very high negatives...especially amongst those that are "supposed" to vote for her..
I know I am not voting for her or Obama... Period.
They have done nothing except LOSE my vote... support.. and respect.
I am not watching the video though as those two people tie my intestines into knots.
"Bay Buchanan’s World Is A Scary Place."
Consider the source. Bay Buchanan is a scary human being.
wisedup @ 8:
Stephen Collins Foster wrote about her: ....I'll bet my money on the bob-tailed nag, somebody bet on the Bay.
That must make her a Camptown lady!
So Bush is innocent by reason of lack of intellectual capacity? I think he should be on death row in a Texas prison (they don't give a damn what's wrong with you - they just want to barbecue something).
Every time Bill OReilly opens his mouth he marginalizes himself a little bit more, pushing him ever further into the realm of obscurity. Let's hope he never figures this out.
Bushisms video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LN_u9f7ALo
Radically Moderate @ 16:
So, what's your specific problem with McKinney? Is it 'cause she's got a bad case of teh black?
Marcus Aurelius @ 29:
Not at all, she's crazy and her race has nothing to do with it thank you very much.
Radically Moderate @ 30:
Can you be more specific? Examples of behavior that would lead you to that conclusion? Thank you very much.
"...They only respect people who are very good with the numbers and the quotes and the facts and the figures. They have to be very high intellectual level. They never respected President Reagan."
Wow! Bay Buchanan said something I agree with! I'm guilty, Bay!
rduke @ 24:
i am voting for obama. he's not a perfect candidate, but he'll do. and don't give me any b.s. about experience, because america can do just fine without her current "beltway experts".
lincoln had less experience than obama, and jfk had about the same.
and, no, i don't think obama will get assassinated like those guys, because he's got a pretty solid network that'll get his back.
Marcus Aurelius @ 31:
Let me be clear about my message so that you can understand, it will be a cold day in hell before I vote for another Repug, while at the same time i am putting the Dems on notice that they had better grow some 'nads before 11-08. As for Cynthia McKinney, she had more than her 15minutes of fame and it did not wear well on the public, and i would like the Green party to poll better than the Libertarians, but they will not do so with Mckinney. Her train has left the station. Yes, my personal opinion is that she is Bonkers.
JOHN EDWARDS, JOHN EDWARDS, JOHN EDWARDS
People!
Haha, well I like Pat Buchanan - and they are both old school conservatives which I can respect. But yea, she's right about Hillary. And doesn't this prove the point of all the same old shit that will be brought up again with Hillary as the nominee? Let's pick Obama or Edwards and put to death the Clinton royal family that has controlled democratic politics for the past two decades. Fresh ideas please.
Boop @ 35:
sorry, dude. i like him, but he voted for iraq.
no pay raise. no oval office.
vp, maybe...
Of course, and Bush DIDN'T make any deciderings which brought this vile political, economic, and humanitarian miasma upon him and us.
"Bay", what kind of name is that anyway. Must be a combination of two other words you think? Maybe Bitch and Gay? Just askin...
ROM Spaceknight @ 37:
Who can best win in the general??? Edwards The Populist!
I couldn't even get past the sneering,fake hair Anne wanna be before the next self-hating NEO BABLIST. 'The loathing!' I fell off My chair laughing. What a heap of foul smelling excrement. I am still laughing.
Wait a galdarn minute! I thought BUSH was THE Decider!
What the hell's goin on here? I'm so corn-fused.
SOMEBODY needs to do some decidin and do it quick!
Doggiebobo @ 2:
OH lighten up. It's for entertainment value. Loosen your corset fer Chisssakes.
When did they start remaking the three stooges?
Radically Moderate @ 34:
Well,now you made it clear you kiss mirrors,I guess we'll all vote as You told Us. Thanks for that. Inever knew until you showed up
Zeke @ 42:
"Sorry W
I'm the Decider
Dems in '08"
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David Hawes @ 45:
Nice......real nice..........
Radically Moderate @ 47:
Oh did I step on yur dick while walking by? So sorry. Rollit in and get to electing a candidate to defeat the RePugs.Green party? what a maroon.
David Hawes @ 48:
We have a child among us. I get a chuckle out of adolescent humor.........please continue D.H.
Sure.I'm 55 years old and lost friends in VietNam.How 's THAT for a chuckle? Nobody gives a flying fuck what YOUR personal views are. The goal is to defeat The Thugs. Over and Out. Did You get a chuckle from that? I'm so glad to provide You with your humor for the evening.
Bay Buchanan tried to cash in on the right's hatred of the Clinton's by pschoanalyzing Hillary in a book she wrote with her "PhD in life" expertise. It's to her $benefit$ to bash Hillary.
Regardless of which Democratic candidate you prefer, you'd have to admit that any one of them is competent (unlike Bush) and carries far less baggage (flip-flops, shady dealings, capitulation to the fascist Repub element) than any of the Repub candidates. Unlike Bush, the Democratic candidates are all articulate and won't embarrass us anytime they are on the world stage. Pretty low bar (competence and a command of the English language), but it's more than what we've had the last seven years.
Hey rad chuckle this
David Hawes @ 50:
Calm down, calm down! I'm a vet also......Army 73-76........I stand by everything that I said........if you don't like......I don't care!
Rad? Ohhh rad? a 'child' eh?
fwacbar @ 39:
Is her middle name Gitch?
Radically Moderate @ 53:
OOOOOH NOW You say you don't care? How's your chuckle NOW Mother Fucker A CHILD?
David Hawes @ 56:
Hee Hawes.......get a life already.
Hey Rad Chuckle on THIS ASSHOLE
OH NOW I don't 'have a Life'? This 'child' willkick yer ass
I see. So if you make a decision based on facts, it's your fault. If you pull it out of your ass, it's excusable because you are following policies you believe in.
Didn't they say back in 2000 that it was the return of adult leadership? It turns out those adults are all drunks.
BTW, BB is a man.
The modern GOP is actively bringing about the death of America and American values, worldwide.
The dumbing down of Joe Six-pack continues.
Why talk about who hates who?
Why not talk about who has done what for the past seven years?
When is the average American going to see through this (to me, transparent) shit?
David Hawes @ 50:
David,
Didn't mean to offend, and I'm certainly open to any help we can get keeping the Thugs out of office. On the other hand, I have heard McKinney speak on several occasions, and she seems to be very intelligent, sane, and cogent (yes, I know about the episode w/the guard, but I can't honestly say I wouldn't have reacted in the same way, and while I'm a bit eccentric, I don't react poorly in times of crisis. the Thugs had a field day w/it).
To each his own.
chris @ 23:
probably do a little wife swapping while thier at it!
David Hawes @ 59:
OOOOKAAAY! I'm finished here.
BTW No you won't.....no you couldn't.........adult child!
Marcus Aurelius @ 62:
I will accept your statement. And leave it at That. BUT I have words for 'rad' who was condecending at best and someone who Yes I CAN kick His ass. He checked out like the coward He was. He probably beats His wife.
Did Bill O just refer to himself as an intellectual? Claims his Harvard degree as proof. I didn't attend an Ivy league school but know many people who did. However, the smartest people I know went to public schools.
Radically Moderate @ 64:
Ohhh. Yes,rad.I Can.
David Hawes @ 67:
and I Will because US old guys cheat. Howdaya think We live so long-by 'The Rules'? Now,who Is 'The Child'?
David Hawes @ 67:
I back tracked to see what happened. it would seem that you came on this site to pick a fight.
This is an opinion blog, and personal attacks against posters is not allowed. You tried to pick a fight with Doggiebobo and you picked a fight with me.
I have not seen your kind of threats on this site before. If you had a bad day thats a shame,but I will respond to ad hominim attacks.
BTW My wife is just fine and watching the Simpsons Movie with my boys.
All I have to say to you is have a great Holiday Season.I hope that '08 is a prosperous one for you and the Dems win in '08. I'm not sure but I believe we agree on that?
"Brother"? Ha!
Has anyone *ever* seen them in the same room at the same time?
And people in America listen to this and say "Oh yeah, yeah, that makes sense, uh-huh!". Amen! Gee, those women and Bill sure sound like they know what they're talking about, I don't have to think at all, uh-huh!! Shovel some more shit my way friends (gobble, gobble, gobble).
I'm sorry but these three people should have their US citizenship revoked.
She looks a lot like that bitch Katherine Harris
I'm sorry,But Pat is better lookin than she is..............................and yes,I know.....that sure as hell ain't sayin much.
That was the most retarded defense of president Bush I have ever heard.
Yes, Orally, Hillary and the Shrub are disliked for the same reasons...except that Hillary never destroyed two or three countries, Hillary didn't welcome corruption and incompetence into the government, Hillary didn't turn our country into a Taliban-wannabe nation.
Other than that, the dislike is for the exact same reasons. /sarcasm
galmud @ 74:
Oh no, didn't you hear Orally? He's NOT retarded, he tells you. NOT retarded.
It's just that being unhinged can be confused with being retarded.
Thankfully I ate three hours ago, so when I say Bay's face I just ended up dry heaving for a half hour. Ugly on the inside and ugly on the outside.
Sorry, war criminals just piss me off. Dubya should be imprisoned for life.
Talk about Extreme Makeover!
Bay! Who's your plastic surgeon?
They used to say Phyllis Diller's face lifts could reupholster a car . . . but dang, I think you've got ole Phyllis beat in just one go!
Well forgiove me for wanting someone who when he speaks actually engenders respect and not someone everyone laughs at
so you know how many times I've wanted to leap up from my chair because our presidnet can even utter the word "to?"?????? It always comes out "ta"
There was a time that good grammar and proper speech was even valued by conservatives . . . . I know, my Republican farmer's wife, Kansas born lived and died once shamed me for 1/2 an hour because I dared use to word "aint" in a game of "Go Fish"
BO likes to masturbate his ego on the teevee, is the FCC aware of this? This at least warrants an MA rating.
WhoawhoaWHOA! "This analysis should be banned from TeeVee and Bay should be booted out of the studio..."
Have you lost it? We should be PROMOTING this idiocy, not getting all Gestapo on it. Let them spew all the backwards logic they like, it just makes us "intellectuals" seem... well, smarter than our Neanderthal cousins. There is this thing called "Free Speech" granted by our forward-thinking Constitutional creators, let's try to stick by the best parts of the document and honor an idiot's right to speak like one...
Senator Clinton is getting exactly what she should get from these bastards for thinking that she could play around in the bedroom with them and get traction from the democratic party.
Many of us begged her to get on the right side of the fence and she was having none of it because she knows what's best.
You cannot take money from these ass holes and think they are not going to try to control you as they have successfully done to that maniac, George W Bush.
I hate to say it but O'Riley may have a point
The Clinton's were bashed and reviled from the first day of Bubba's Presidency until they left,prompting those classy Rovian Scum Meisters to trash the place then blame it on the bitterness of the out going Dems.They were dishonestly labeled left wing Liberals but were nothing of the sort,rather, moderates and --relatively speaking--much less partisan than what followed,preferring to reach across the aisle and actually work with Republicans to get things done.However they were never forgiven for beating Pappy Bush.Much of what has been said about the Clintons has been literally manufactured out of whole cloth.Bush on the other hand is BEGGING to be hated-rightfully so.He is the absolute worst leader America has ever suffered under,bar none.He has arrogantly deceived the American people at the behest of his corporate masters,dragging its sons and daughters into a terrible,illegal,utterly immoral act of poisonous aggression that has sickened the majority of the planet beyond all comprehension or redemption.
She's had so much plastic surgery, she's starting to look like her own distant cousin.
Bay is not watchable.
Simply too fucking ugly and mean to be on TV.......
I don't know who hit her in the face with a hot frying pan, but it is sad...really sad...but we shouldn't be forced to view such hideous creatures like her.
Happy holidays.
Fox News at its finest. This whole segment is ripe with glimpses into a bizarro world of ideological propaganda. It attempts to define the terms and misdirect.
Best Billo quote imho: "You don't get more intellectual than I am ... alright, i mean, Harvard's Master's Degree ... you know, c'mon ...".
I don't dislike President Bush for any of the reasons that these ass clowns offer. That's what irritates me - they try to define the argument because they have the unchallenged platform.
Billo and his harem try to define my repulsion to President Bush in terms of simple ideology when it has really been based on simple powers of observation since 1999. The absolute wrong decision when the right action is required. That has been the past 8 years.
The fact that the top tier of the Bush administration hasn't been impeached is pathetic. Broken. Enablers.
Yeah, Fox News. Mission Accomplished. Pissed me off with how far the producers and Billo the Star put the head up the ass.
Every time I shave, I see an intellectual on the mirror. And I just giggle to meself!
RockmanEnough @ 61:
What makes otherwise rational people listen to and actually take seriously the likes of O'Reily, Hannity, Limbaugh, etc.? I live in an extremely red state and most of my co-workers and many of my friends and neighbors are wingers. For the most part they are nice, honest, intelligent people. I just can't understand how they can listen to the crap on Fox News and talk radio and actually believe it, but they do. They don't understand why I don't get it either. Eventually we usually come to a truce where we just don't discuss politics or religion and then we can get along. Most of them don't really defend Bush much anymore but they think he failed due to ineptitude and liberal media bias, not due to having bad policies.
Most of us in my workplace are currently in the process of being outsourced to the lowest bidder. It is hilarious (in a sad sort of way) to see how the wingers rationalize the fact that their jobs are about to go overseas. Of course, it never occurs to them that our new CEO and our new private equity owners are greedy bastards that don't give a shit about them. Some of them blame labor unions and democrats for "killing the US economy". When I mention that the economy was much better under Clinton, they say it's the congress that counts and the Republicans had the congress during most of the Clinton term. When I mention that the Republicans had the congress under most of Bush's term too, they mostly look annoyed. But some of them are starting to see that the middle class is under attack. They are not ready to revolt against their corporate oppressors yet, but the pressure is building.
So let me see if I have this right. Hillary Clinton wouldn't be where she is if she wasn't married to Bill Clinton, but George W. got where he is completely by his own merits. Had nothing to do with Daddy or Granddaddy. It's just because he's so brilliant. Okay, I think I have it now. Thanks for clearing that up for me, Monica. These two women do the impossible. They make Bill O'Reilly look like the voice of reason!
If you take a good look at her head, just like monica crowley's, what you see is simply a toxic fungus that has been secreted out of the asshole of lucifer itself ...
I couldn't watch this all the way through. Did Bay's ultra-tight facial skin snap from its seams at the end?
A question of character? As in:
1,000,000 people being killed, maimed, tortured by BushCo.
These GD people make me sick.
As ugly on the outside, as she is on the inside.
Think how less-scary Bay Buchanan's world would be if she left it.
When I mention that the economy was much better under Clinton, they say it's the congress that counts and the Republicans had the congress during most of the Clinton term. When I mention that the Republicans had the congress under most of Bush's term too, they mostly look annoyed. But some of them are starting to see that the middle class is under attack.
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The inflation/deflation cycle is nearing its completion. The 1990's had a similar boom to that of the 1920's. It was not the President or congress, it was Alan Greenspan.
Cheap credit. The less expensive something is, the more people buy of it. Thus a credit bubble has grown over the last decade.
The middle class is under attack from deflation.
MN USA @ 51:
It also doesn't do to forget that the irrational hatred of the Clintons from the Buchanan clan doesn't come from an entirely emotionally stable place
is it just me, or does that image of Bay look like O'Reilly in drag??
Her face is a dark scarey thing.
I don't see a whole lot of qualitative difference between Bush and Clinton.
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