Huckabee's "Prophetic" Understanding of Pakistan
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Mike Huckabee is desperately trying to prove that he has more on the ball than Bush had back in 2000 when he couldn't name the leader of Pakistan. Talk about setting a low bar for yourself.
So when asked about a foreign policy statement made several months ago that focused more on Pakistan than the then-neocon terrorism target-du jour, Iran, Huckabee insisted that his perspicuity was the result of "prophetic" understanding of our challenges in the "War on Terror"™.
Uh, right. Out of curiosity, was it prophetic when just last week, when asked for a response to Bhutto's assassination, Huckabee didn't know that martial law had been lifted and railed about needing the border fence to keep out Pakistani illegals (does he even know where the Pakistan border even is?)?
I kind of appreciate the writers' strike, if for no other reason than to avoid this loser getting the infamous "Colbert Bump".
oh, and first??
burnt @ 1:
he kind of already did.
But Holy Huck knows that once he kills all the Islamofacists that Jebus will be so happy with him that he'll be rapturified directly to heaven without having to die. And he'll be able to take his investments with him, since he isn't dead he can do a direct bank transfer to heaven. He learneded it at Bible Colege [sic], when he became a minister in an _inerrant_ (totally without error) religion.
Prophetic? Kiss my ass, you huckster.
I'm so tired of this piece of crap peddling himself as some sort of divinely inspired Chosen Person.
He's nothing but a delusional scumbag who has turned religion into snake oil.
Can we have better candidates, please? I feel like I'm 100 yr. old, but some of them used to actually be educated, statesmen, or served this country in some way.
I can't stand Huckabee, but I also can't stand spin on THIS site. Nicole Belle says Huckabee "insisted that his perspicuity was the result of “prophetic” understanding..."
No, he didn't insist on any such thing. He said his comments back then "seem almost prophetic." Well, considering the NIE report that Iran is no current danger and considering the instability in Pakistan after Bhutto's assassination, Huckabee's comments could "seem" "almost" prophetic. I emphasize the two weasel words because they show that Huckabee didn't INSIST on anything. And considering the Iran/Pakistan development, Huck might've been right about focusing on Pakistan more than on Iran.
Please don't lower this blog to this level of intentional and invalid spin, okay? Don't twist people's words to sound worse, okay?
But do be afraid of Huckabee. He is an ignorant, Bible-thumping, Revelation-anticipating, idiot from the South, and we all know what happened the last time one of those was elected.
...seemed like the long way 'round to get the word 'prophetic' in [ his writers must be on strike, too ] as that much effort into one of those sub-i-li-bin-all messages ends up revealing it to be so...
"Prophetic?"
Okay. How about for our next president we pick someone who relies a little more on evidence and a little less on revelation and personal hunches?
HA HA ... Fence ... border ... my sides hurt from laughing.
Ignorance and Death ... the parents of God.
he's such an arsehole. I can't say fairer than that.
I'm sure he speaks to God all the time.
Prophets? He wants to go to heaven and blow all the profits. Well, he'll have to get in line behind Liberace. I'm not diss'n Liberace. He was great on the piano but he sucked on the organ.
Why, Pakistan shares an eastern border with Afghanistan, of course. Just ask "Gomer" Huckabee.
The republicans will again nominate the stupidest and most corrupt candidate. That would be ah.......
He is a pastor first and foremost
Does Huckabee consider himself a 'Prophet', or does he believe a 'Prophet' whispers in his ear?
In any event, Huckabee, since you know the future, tell me what you're gonna do after you lose your ass in the election?
Go back to hustling sheep?
sulphurdunn @ 14:
romney is by far the stupidest and most fake
rudy it the most corrupt
mccain and huckabee would make a good ticket
MyGodBeatsYourGod @ 7:
suh blim uh nuh bul
budda @ 17:
If that happened, Lieberputz would go postal. And McCain would have no one to change his depends.
JasonS @ 8:
I know it's off topic but that also cuts to the bone with me and some of the Dems...all this talk of 'hope', 'possibilities', and 'new beginnings' rings somewhat as bromides from the other side...we have had too much Tao and not enough Teh, perhaps.
I want a goddamn flowchart from the candidate of his/her plan forward from day friggin' one. How are you going to repair the damage from this coke-head and his group of war criminals? How are we going to get this nation back from the corporate control we are under? When are we sending the
Bush familyto Mars? The important stuff.I, for one, am happy to see Huck-on-the-Hustings. We need a bit of levity injected into what is otherwise an unimaginably tedious primary campaign season.
What? He's not kidding? Seriously? Who knew?
I stand corrected.
30 seconds of this is all you need to know. Folksiness and humor...but ohmyGod he is a prophet and will govern based on this. Perhaps he'll look puty in the eye as well and get to know his soul. . Run away.
Paul B - When you generalize and say things like "idiot from the South", well, that just makes you look like an idiot. Not to say that the Huckster is not an idiot, he is, but it has nothing to do with where he is from. Idiots abound in this country, North, South, East & West. I can tell you that the people of Arkansas, not the idiot ones, are shocked this fool has gotten this far.
Repulicans keep DRINIKNG the PAT ROBERTSON KOOLAID at camp jesus with X sen foley
all we need know in this fucken country is a another right wing christian X preacher nut job for president..
ha ha h ah ha h
Prophetic my ass. Who is this guy, the great Kreskin? Pathetic is more like it.
Huckster's use of the word "prophetic" reminds me of Jeanne Dixon's "prophetic" view of the future when she said Tricky Dicky (that's Richard Nixon for you younger people) would be viewed in history as one of our greatest presidents.
These fascists live in a different universe.
I'm glad that someone else has made that connection, as I had in this year's last ACOTW (Huckabee's #6). This Huckabee guy is such a clueless boob that I'm amazed he doesn't pronounce his home state ar-KANSAS.
I'll be going away for a day or two. Enjoy and have a safe and happy New Year, all.
Huckabee isn't a pastor, or a minister, but I am sure he is a "preacher". All have different meanings. A pastor guides his flock. a minister comforts his people, a preacher just talks.
there's Bob Hope and No Hope...
that's about as much hope as there is of Reverend Simpleton becoming president!
right?
dear Lord, please tell me I'm right
Huck is so wrong the NY Times needs to hire him as a columnist when his campain fails. He can then join William Kristol, whom the Times just hired, and they might prognosticate like a pair of Nostradumbasses.
Here's a letter to the NY Times:
There is a certain wisdom in the NY Times decision to provide the pulpit impoverished and self publishing “Fox Skews” pundit William Kristol with a column. After all Kristol hasn’t gotten anything right in a very long time and neither has the Times. Maybe two wrongs will make a right!
Both the Times and Kristol are mouth pieces of an ever mendacious and self serving elite that believe that the American Constitution is an obstacle to the New World Order. The Times has even outdone Mr. Kristol in the propaganda department by publishing the purposely erroneous Judith Miller articles on Iraq and being directly involved in the Valerie Plame/Joe Wilson smear.
The Times continues to provide cover for the dirty deeds of the shadow government, the blueprint of which comes from Mr. Cheney’s Project For A New American Century and the David Rockefeller’s CFR. Blackwater may soon replace the National Guard on the streets of American Cities. Will the Times applaude. Mr. Kristol will.
It should also be noted that the Times and Mr. Kristol both are floating their boats on the ocean of blood rising from the unnecessary and artificial conflicts that are being characterized as “a clash of civilizations” by Mr. Kristol and his idiot friends like Samuel Huntington and the other historical Hegelian fools proven oh so (self admittedly) wrong , like Frank Fukuyama.
Yet, being demonstrably wrong has never put a blush on the propagandists - the true believers who beat the drum and murder the innocence of the world. I just point out that with the hiring of Mr. Kristol you leave no doubt that the consolidation of the press under the Dictatorship of Ministry of Information is virtually complete. Once again, I am reminded that there is freedom of the press, but only if you own one. God help this nation if net neutrality is destroyed in accordance with Mr. Kristol’s plans. I await with anticipation the press release that will soon declare Rupert Murdoch to be the new owner of the NY Times.
Free the people now, as John Lennon said. Do it, do it, do it, now…
He attracts the Christian right wingers who voted for bush twice and would a third time if they could. That's all he has going for him. I watched the entire interview this morning and just shook my head. He really doesn't know shit from shine-ola.
We don't need another president who hears voices in his head.
I hereby formally bequeath my name to Huckabee.
Man, his whispering jesus is dumb.
Wow. He even gives "doofus" a bad name. In the words of Bugs Bunny . . . "What a maroon"
6 Paul B. Says:
Hear hear Paul B.
Good god Huckabee is a lunatic.
Did anybody see the Rasmussen poll that has McCain winning nationally... with 17%?!?
Never trust anyone who says that god got them to where they are in the polls. That person is bs-ing you big time.
Tim also ask him about something he said in the 90's about "taking the country back for Jesus". Huck said, I was speaking before a large christian organizational gathering so you would expect I would say something like that at a gathering like that.
What it says is that he speaks the words his audience wants to hear, not what he truly feels.
When a religious fundamentalist who is running for President calls himself "almost prophetic", that is a serious red flag.
Crisco.
I am reminded of a scene out of the excellent SF series, 'Babylon 5,' in which one character comments on current events by noting they are, "... just as prophecy foretold."
To which his superior replies, "Prophecy is a poor guide to action, because you cannot tell if it is true until the events are upon you. And then it is too late."
Far more sensible people were asking, 'What About Pakistan?' when the Bush crowd was having apocalyptic dreams about Iraq. No prophecy needed, just focusing on the tested, deployable weapons in close proximity to the Taliban and al-Qaeda.
I have a serious question here. Suppose one of these right wing assholes is outside giving a speech to their thralls and lightning strikes them after they say God chose them to be president (or senator, governor, school board chief ,etc...).
Do you think then they would wake up and realize that God isn't a card carrying member of the GOP, or would they just stay on the familiar path of 'toopid?
I didn't know that the War on Terror was a trademark.
Who owns it?
Tom A. @ 26:
Well, Dicky is still probably the greatest Republican President since Eisenhower. Not exactly a high bar to be sure, or even a bar that can be seen through the mud. And Ford and Bush the elder, for all their complete lack of greatness were--unlike Reagan and Bush the younger--much more innocuous than Nixon. But, in retrospect, Jeanne's prediction is, rather sadly, not quite as ridiculous as it once seemed. If you're a Republican partisan baby-boomer who didn't drink the Reagan Kool-Aid, Nixon's a reasonable choice as greatest President of your adult lifetime.
Why don't we put political parties aside and vote as patriots for the betterment of our country.i know ron paul is running as a republican,but he's really a libertarian constitutionalist.If we could just put our differences aside and vote for Ron,we might have a chance to save our nation.Folks it's that serious.He is the only one that tells the truth and isn't a fake christian for the N.W.O.
Tricia @ 43:
I think it's co-owned by Raytheon, General Electric, and McDonnell Douglas. Kinda the way KFC and Pizza Hut all share Taco Bell...
Well, Nixon wasn't stupid and he was an environmentalist so he wasn't a complete moral failure but God, it saddens me that he could legitimately be considered one of the greatest of my lifetime. I'm sixty - ok, now I'm depressed, is it too early for a cocktail?
If they weren't f*cking with the future of this once great nation, this whole repug desperation for a successor to the idiot in the WH today would be funny.
However, they are washed up, and the best they can do is shove all these fragment idiots into the spot light. They know they are washed up. I just hope the American public wake up and put them out with the trash.
"God told me the people should buy a Total Gym and they told me I should endorse you"-Chuck Norris to Huck
his name is huck.
huck huckabee.
and he’s a jesus man.
and a chuck norris man!
Whenever I hear these jerks talk about being led by prophesy and divine inspiration and the like, I'm reminded of the time the President of a company we were working with, who was notorious for bazaar decisions, offered that those decisions were almost always based on said inspiration, to which one of our guys retorted...'We understand and appreciate that, we just wish God knew more about the ('fill in the blank') business.'
HulksHeroes @ 48:
Ditto....None of these damn idiots stands a real chance...."what this election need's is an enema"
I can see why Chuck Norris endorses Huckabee...because Huckabee is another religious-right wingnut with a screw loose.
America, I love you, but you're bringing me down.
No candidate for office in this country should be using the word "prophetic" or "prophesy" in a sentence, unless it's to say something like, "Ancient prophesies have nothing to do with current matters."
Bluesage @ 47:
It's never too early for a cocktail during primary season if you have any risk of seeing a newspaper, watching t.v., listening to the radio, or using an internet connection.
Cat Atomic @ 39:
I believe we should change "almost prophetic" to "certainly pathetic." The hubris and arrogance of these "religious" pretenders and charlatans is endless. Their "spirituality" is a malignant mutation of the genuine article and what they really need is some restraint and humility.
And to think that I thought George W. Bush was the most uninformed, clueless person on the planet when it comes to foreign policy. Huckabee seems to have him beat by a longshot. I can't believe anyone is actually looking a that guy as a potential President. Huckabee is dumber than a box of rocks.
This guy is supposed to be pure as the driven snow right? Wouldn't think of telling a fib... Yet when he's been asked about his Christmas message teevee ad, you know the one with the big white cross panning in the background, he insists that "it's just a bookshelf!". He said the whole ad was spur of the moment and that it was completely "ad-libbed" (sp?). Yeah, sure it was. Anybody with enough sense to count to five knows that these ad's are scrutinized by their authors ad nauseum, meticulously orchestrated and articulated for maximum message. Seems to me Bubba Huckleberry is telling a whopper. Last I checked, that's a big no-no with Jesus.
Bluesage @ 47:
I can hardly believe that someone as paranoid and vengeful as Nixon would be considered competent and visionary by today's standards. Our current political condition is truly pathetic. As for best president in my lifetime, I'll take JFK. Without him, there would have been no Peace Corps, which continues today as a way to promote good works throughout the world. The Peace Corps has done more to raise up the name of America through altruistic works than all the Republicans combined in history.
Hey Mike praise Jeebus and pass the pork chops..oh ya ya might want to pick up a newspaper.. or look at that intranet thing...It's a good idea to keep current.. It's like part of the job you are running for
Huckabee. There are no words. He wants to replace the federal income tax with a 23% sales tax. Yeah, right. That would really stick it to the rich. And do we really want a guy in the WH that doesn't know where Pakistan is in relation to Afghanistan? I admit I wasn't good at 7th grade geography, but I expect someone running for the highest office in the land to be more knowledgable than that.
I guess I was "prophetic" too back when Bush buddied up to Pakistan.
I said, "Pakistan? You gotta be fucking kidding me."
The more I learn about Huckleberry, the more I hope he wins the GOP nomiination.
Huckleberry is the Joe Isuzu of 2008
Huckabee's biggest disappointment was when, as a lad, his mother finally convinced him he was only 'God's' second-born son.
Which indicates his mental deficiencies are genetic.
people are over exaggerating the prophetic comment. I am watching Meet The Press now.
What Huckabee alluded to what he commented about Pakistan being a bigger threat than Iran (during the bomb Iran blabla a few months ago) in previous weeks and his comment about being prophetic is about predicting that Pakistan would eventually be bigger threat down the line.
Since the assassination of Bhuttto, Republicans are trying to quote what journalists are saying and trying to pretend to be smart on forein affairs.
So Huckabee being prophetic was just a term of speaking ahead of time....... nothing biblical
I hate bible thumpers like much everybody else, but his "prophetic" comment was nothing biblical, it was merely a prediction.
We should be objective first before being subjective.
Fil @ 66:
I can agree with that. Though the word "prophet" is almost assured to draw criticism especially considering Huckabee's religious background. Maybe he should have chosen his words more carefully. He may say that he saw Pakistan as more of a threat back then but then again any nation could be a threat down the road. There is nothing "prophetic" about that, its just a guess. If Bhutto had not been assassinated his guess would be dead wrong more than likely. Besides, I doubt Huckabee even knows where Pakistan is.
Tim Russert went very easy on Pastor Huckabee on Meet the Press today. This proves that Pastor Huckabee is the choice of g-d. Pastor Huckabee has the foreign policy experience to clean up the mess in Pakistan and elsewhere with one swipe of his mighty arm. For example, Pastor Huckabee punctuated a point about having John Bolton as his foreign policy advisor the other day by discharging his shotgun over the reporters' heads, because he's a tough law-and-order man. In the ensuing melee, he didn't have time to mention that he may also be advised by Kofi Annan, Henry Kissinger, and Mikhail Gorbachev. The other thing that has not been mentioned is an explanation of Pastor Huckabee's comment about Pakistanis entering the US illegally. What Pastor Huckabee probably meant was that rather than coming in from Mexico, the Pakistanis are smuggled in by cargo containers originating from the so-called geographically shared eastern border with Afghanistan. This would make sense because, as Pastor Huckabee mentioned, martial law is being enforced in Pakistan, so that everyone else must remain inside their homes which would allow terrorism suspects to slip into the containers unnoticed for transport to the US. Yes, Pastor Huckabee apologized for the Pakistani affair, but he did that because he is a true Christian and that is what Christians do. And since as he mentioned he has a theology degree and most of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were clergymen, it carries extra weight with Christians, so he was able to raise $89,000 in the one day 'money bomb' on December 27. Pastor Huckabee also knows that we must protect Israel at all costs for it is in the Bible. He has the power of a multinational corporation, Amway, at his disposal to bring the countries who won't get in line on terrorism to their knees. Oh, how happy everyone will be when Pastor Huckabee is president and puts the Christ back into Christians!
Y'all dint unnerstand Huckabee's lispth.
He dint sat 'Prophetic', he said 'Pathetic'.
ALL Republicans will continue the BUSH plan. We must stop this now.
NO MORE WARS, NO MORE BUSH AGENDAS.
Elmer Fudd Huckabee capable so far as confusing wabbit season v. duck season
According to Juan Cole, martial law was never declared, "rather a constitutionally permissible 'state of emergency'", which was lifted before Huckabee's comment.
myiq2xu @ 63:
My only problem with a Huckster nomination would be that he'll be blown out of the water by so much that the christianist crazies will realize their mistake, settle down, and stop giving signs of splintering off from the Republican party. Heck; if Huckster gets the nomination and Paul runs third party, the Democratic nominee might even have a fair chance of winning throughout the South and Utah. I want to see the Democrats win this one, but a landslide is probably not best in the long run.
I may be stating the obvious, but as someone who grew up in a fundamentalist Christian family in the Bible Belt, I think Huckabee used the term prophetic to imply that he's trying to figure out how current events in Pakistan fit into biblical prophecy. A vast number of US Christians do this. They don't necessarily know anything of the politics or whereabouts of the lands in the news, but they go right to the book of Revelation to try to square what they're hearing with what they've been told their holy writings say. Unfortunately, Huckabee's use of the word in the context he used it will automatically increase his stature in the minds of millions of "Left Behind"-reading Americans.
Pakistanis, mexicans.. they all look the same to neo-cons.
What really upset me about what he said on this show today was about abortion. He said doctors should be "punished" for performing abortions. So my doctor can now live in fear that whatever treatment he prescribes for me (I'm talking about more than abortions), he has to bow to some government/police agent as to whether it is "moral" or proper for treating my condition. It asks, who is giving my care, my doctor or some cop?
Gary @ 75:
Pretty much, although Huck's not neocon even though he probably agrees with them on this point. Those arent' white people, they're not yellow people, they're not red people, they're not slaves, so they must be the other brown people.
You know, he really does look like Elmer Fudd.
...with a little Jethro Bodine thrown in.
Fil @ 66:
Ahem. Like I said before, sensible people were asking hard questions about Pakistan when the Bush Administration was agitating for a war in Iraq. Pakistan is a country with tested, deployable nuclear weapons. If I were a terrorist, I wouldn't bank on Saddam and a might-be program, I'd go for something that was ready-made and closer to home.
So if you want to be OBJECTIVE, let's point out that Huckabee's remark fails not only on the 'prophetic' front, but that it's among the many voices who are Suddenly Concerned About Pakistan.
On a side note, regarding talk that the 'access to nukes' issue isn't as big a threat as people are making it out to be ... I really don't want to listen to another round of, "I don't think anyone knew ..." from the Bush Administration. I mean, come on - in one moment, we're blaming al-Qaeda for whacking Bhutto, and in the next, we're crowing about how badly we've spanked al-Qaeda/AQI. Wheeeeeeeeee! We're Winning! Yay! Freedom is on the march! (Yeah - marching right out the kriffing door.)
For heavens sake folks, this time around at least choose a President with half a brain.
This guy is so ill informed it makes you sick.
Although I have to agree that the "prophetic" comment was in all likelihood a reference to being correct about something before it later came to be and not "prophetic" in the biblical or soothsayer way, you'd think that one seeking any important position would be a little more considerate of the ramifications of using the right words at the right time. Remember Dubya's infamous use of the word "Crusade?" Absolutely brilliant. No, the words aren't chosen to intentionally elicit some desired reaction - they're just asinine errors from individuals who don't pass the basic standard for an intelligent adult. Don't you think GW's pronunciation, "nukyalure" had to have been brought to his attention by the image gods in his White House? Yet he has never changed the unarguably incorrect and ignorant mispronunciation of the word. So he's either too stupid to be right, or too arrogant to be wrong. Or both. Huck and GW are both cut from the same bolt of cheap cloth.
Bluesage - You took me to task for saying "another idiot from the South." I was referring, of course, to George Bush--the other idiot from the South in my post.
I live in central Arkansas. My family's roots are here. I'm not generalizing about Southerners as idiots, because WE aren't. But Huckabe IS "another idiot from the South." Just like Bush.
I'm glad you're defending our Southern honor, but please pay more attention to the context. I didn't generalize at all.
Hello !
This post mey appear to be off topic at first but maybe be it is not. We know of a couple that has just returned from a two week tour of China. The usual routine , Bejing , The Great Wall, Shanghai , blah. blah blah. The husband is is banker, both are well educated . I know that does not go over well with most Americans.
The first question that was possed to this couple, on return , was
" How was it ?"
A vey innocent question . What would you say?
Answer : " We have lost", was the answer without hesitation,.
Then they went on to describe what they had seen.
Well ,it is very interesting.
There has been a major Shift.
So . Here is Huckabee , and the other candidates Rep. or Dem. are no different .
Huckabee just went hunting for pheasent. Photo Op .And seems to be braging that he ,and a team armed with the latest technology , shot three ( 3) pheasant.
Thnk about it .Only three peasant. PHOTO OPS and HUNTING??????
Huckabee does not to know where Pakistan or Afghnistane are located.
Maybe someone should aask Huckabee where Iraq is located.
Wake Up America. It's too late but Wake Up.
Many Americans have wakened up by the way .
Are we sure beyond a doubt that Huckabee didn't have on or those GW momments were "Prophetic" was actually said but, he meant "pathetic" ?
Huck is going to find out that he is dividing the country more into sectarian groups like the Mid East.
I guess the next answer to a question to Huck will be, "Jesus is my favorite philosopher". Its comming.
And perhaps Huck might abolish taxes altogether in favor of passing the plate.....................
Roll over Isaiah and give Jeremiah the news!
Prophetic? Try pathetic!
I hope you all do not drink too much tonite, we have alllot of work to do next year, so lets get an early start and kick some ass.
"A huckster is a seller of small articles, usually of cheap or shoddy quality, or one engaged in haggling or making petty bargains, that is, a certain type of peddler or hawker." --From Wikipedia
Did anyone consider that Mike Huckabee has been busy out on the campaign trail and had not concentrated on the "marshal law" being lifted in Pakistan? Yes, I support Mike Huckabee. I have read his books. He has great ideas that can really help our nation.
Who is Marshal Law?
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