Die Whales, Die!!!!
By Nicole Belle Tuesday Jan 15, 2008 5:35pmPresident Bush exempted the Navy from an environmental law so it can continue using sonar in its anti-submarine warfare training off the California coast -- a practice critics say is harmful to whales and other marine mammals.
The White House announced Wednesday that Bush had signed the exemption Tuesday while traveling in the Middle East. (snip)
"The president's action is an attack on the rule of law," said Joel Reynolds, director of the Marine Mammal Protection Project at the Natural Resources Defense Council. "By exempting the Navy from basic safeguards under both federal and state law, the president is flouting the will of Congress, the decision of the California Coastal Commission and a ruling by the federal court."
This is not some little thing...sonar used so close to their migration paths disorients the whales (and other marine life) and causes them to beach themselves. A study in 2000 found that incidences of bleeding in the ear and around the brain of marine life from mid-frequency sonars as the Navy uses.








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The Bush gangster regime practices equal viciousness and vileness for all: Afghanis, Iraqis, Pakistanis, Americans and whales. No discrimination here, they hate all living plants and animals equally...
Tap your heels and repeat 11.5 more months.
cons hate the environment. They think they have "dominion over animals" and can kill at will
How ironic it is that a naval vessel from the future will have to travel back in time to save these whales.
911 them flucking whales are terriorist whales!!!!!!!!!!!911
If only Bush and Company could be killed off so easily as they kill off every other living thing on this planet.
Is impeachment still off the table Pelosi?
Not surprising. Neocons want to rape Earth of every living thing until they are the only ones left.
Great
Bush lets the Navy loose on innocent whales in the sea while the great evil white whale in the WH Cheney-Dick is allowed to roam free
nothing will get in the way of our military empire, and NOTHING will get in the way of corporations profiting from the fear that the neocons/neolibs have deeply ingrained in our collective psyche.
if the consitutition doesn't slow down these fuckers, the fate of whales won't either.
I don't think Bush has the power to exempt the Navy from these regulations. There is a court hearing in the next few days. What would be his authority? Could he also argue that he is exempting the navy from, say, the criminal statutes against rape?
Team America - International Police, needs the practice.
We must pull out of the 700 military bases across the world now. We can't afford them! Borrowing from countries to pay to defend them? So we can waste money torturing sea mammals?
His gut tells him the whales are a terrist threat
Bush never misses an opportunity to destroy our environment.
Well if they're fine n' dandy with torturing humans to death, why not whales? Imagine dying by way of a high pitched screeching in your ears that you can't turn off.
I don't think Bush has the power to exempt the Navy from these regulations. There is a court hearing in the next few days. What would be his authority? Could he also argue that he is exempting the navy from, say, the criminal statutes against rape?
Of course he's the decider
Son of a bitch! The/we environmentalist were celebrating winning that case. Now he takes time out of his busy singing and sword dancing road trip to wipe it all out. Jesus, this is such a fu*king pisser. Just one more time he feels his will can trump anything he fu*king pleases.
I wonder how big a mess this petulant little twat is planning on leaving behind? What a feeble human being.
I told a friend on the phone today that I'd like to ---- President Bush. You can fill in the blank.
He hates all living things. Remember, as a child (he's still a child, of course) he blew up frogs with firecrackers, and as governor of Texas he mocked death row inmates before sending them to the gallows.
He's a ghoul and a monster. I despise him beyond all description.
Every cetacean on Earth is smarter than this two-bit punk.
Let's hope that true justice prevails here.
jr @ 3:
And humans.
So how do we convince other countries to stop whale hunts when our country allows this? They will just laugh in our face when we try to explain to them what they are doing to the species. Basically what bush is allowing is in some ways worse than whale hunting as there is no limit to the number of animal deaths he can cause.
I love whales as much as the next guy but our national security takes precedence over any bird, fish or mammal.
I am outraged at the contempt Bush has for these magnificent creatures. Not to mention his complete disregard for the law. His arrogance must be stopped!
Start dumping dead whale blubber on Crawford. Then he'll listen.
abob @ 22:
By the way, man is a mammal, so who is this "our" you are speaking of?
abob @ 22:
"The president's action is an attack on the rule of law," said Joel Reynolds, director of the Marine Mammal Protection Project at the Natural Resources Defense Council. "By exempting the Navy from basic safeguards under both federal and state law, the president is flouting the will of Congress, the decision of the California Coastal Commission and a ruling by the federal court."
Sorry, abob, but you're just plain wrong.
Disgusting. This is going to raise a ruckus. It's already lead story at the LA Times...
I really hope the karma fairy that visits that worthless, sorry excuse for a waxy buildup weighs 700lbs and has rabies.
May any or all of the evil he has done during his two stolen terms as worst human on the planet come back to bite him on his cowardly bitch ass.
shrub makes me wish there was a hell. So he could spend a millennium upside down in a vat of boiling excrement.
decotodd @ 11:
That would be the Marines.
Like George Bush gives a fuck about any damned whales.
Or anything else that's beautiful and natural and good.
Hello, God? Your so-called anointed one is destroying everything you lovingly created. Please intercede if you give a damn.
bush is determined to make even his last year the most disrespectful, insensitive and illegal. he is by far the worst fucking asshole, second only to cheney.
I have watched stranded whales die and it is so sad. They call to one another as they are laying there in the shallow ocean water. My husband is a marine biologist and for many years he was involved in the Marine Stranding Network. He and others would voluntarily go out to strandings to help if help was possible. Sometimes just to make them as comfortable as possible until a vet could get there to see if there was any way to help them.
One time there were several whales, sorry don't remember what type, but one was not ill while the rest were. The one that was okay kept swimming up into water that was almost too shallow for him or her and calling to the others who were sick. They would call back to the well one. Then the well one would start to swim back into deeper water as if it was calling them to follow. They couldn't, they were just too sick. The well one kept doing that until the ones on the beach just couldn't answer any longer.
I spent a day this past summer on a boat trip around the channel islands watching the blue whales. I must have seen over a hundred whales that day. I've been on whale watching trips in Alaska but it was nothing like what I saw here in my own backyard in California. They thrive in the channel. It was truly one of the most amazing days I ever had. Considering that blue whales are still an endangered species and the Santa Barbara channel is so important to their well being, I think Bush has shown once again how reckless and short sighted he is.
Sonar harms human beings too. I personally have been driven from the water on two occassions while S.C.U.B.A. diving in Southern California waters.
It causes excruciating pain in one's ears.
No wonder whales, and dolphins, and other sea mammals like sea lions try to get out of the water.
Besides, isn't it the executive's branch responsibility to enforce the laws, NOT make them or make exemptions from them?
how about putting bush and cheney's heads underwater where the navy is testing, if they survive, then it's god's will.
TURN UP THE VOLUME, PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!
New Bush coins ready
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guKAe64UeYk
Everything these sons-a-bitches in this administration do is an attack on the rule of law. Wtf else is new?! I don't want to wish my life away, but I'm looking forward to November.
It's like he goes out of his way to be a complete cock. He really is just a Lil' Satan, isn't he?
We are on a precarious path.
IMPEACH NOW!!!
abob @ 22:
No you do not! You asshole. The environment is our security and the security of all living things.
I think both bush and cheney are paranoid as hell and have been since 9-11. They were warned before 9-11 that an attack was in the making and they didn't do jack shit. Since that time they are going overboard to try to prevent anything else from happening on their watch. They have jettisoned common sense and even the rule of law in their own sick paranoid condition. It's also given them an excuse to destroy anything about our country that gets in their way.
If only they would just go and hideout in a fallout shelter until Jan. of next year.
abob @ 22:
More like national insecurity.
Hmm, I thought this was always the case, or at least, this issue has been around for decades, that the Navy had an exemption and that raised environmental concerns.
Regardless, there's little threat of a submarine attack these days!
I love whales as much as the next guy but our national security takes precedence over any bird, fish or mammal.
This has nothing to do with national security. They do this because they can, and because they don't care.
Is it any wonder why sea mammals hate us?
pissed off patricia @ 25:
You are so right. When all the creatures in the sea are gone it won't be long before the humans will follow.
So it appears that Bush's new energy plan to get us off foreign oil is a switch to dead whale blubber. The chutzpah to which he shows contempt for the planet is unparalleled.
Perhaps the next administration(Democratic)can correct this terrible injustice.
I am one of those people who push the "ping" button. I've never seen, nor heard any distress from any animal in the water.(Yes, we monitor the water for sounds of distress or for any animal at all. We do shut down if there is any indication of marine mammals in the area because it is already the regulation.) We (the Navy) have bent over backwards to fulfill in good faith the restrictions on our "training" only to have them expanded to a point where we cannot train or use our gear at all. I'm no fan of Bush or any of the alternatives but let me tell you, if you think there is no submarine threat in this day and age, You are sadly mistaken. I fully expect to be flamed for any and all of these comments but i thought you should know it's not as dire as you think. The "study" of whales was simply dissection of beached dead whales with absolutely no proof for cause of death. So have at me you 'EFIN Hippies.
Screw the whales! And all of the ocean's creatures! Screw nature altogether! They can't pay taxes! They can't join the Army for Bush's regime! Next thing you know they will want a decent wage and insurance! In the eyes of we, the Republicans, unless we can use you, you are meaningless.
Unless you're a vegan, you have no right to be upset by this.
Simply because your dead animal is sealed in plastic wrap doesn't mean it's any less destructive to the environment, animals, and yourself.
abob @ 22:
Before you make an asinine comment could you at least do some research.
And I doubt you love whales very much at all.
might be oil exploration that causes beachings also
Either way, Good Job Captains...
Buck you, fush. Buck you.
From the bottom of my seething heart.
“The president’s action is an attack on the rule of law,”
Everything that Bush has done since he stole office has been an attack on the rule of law...including stealing the office!
His signing statements, his ignoring of congressional subpoenas, his illegal war...the list goes on and on!
Been following this since the ATOC days when they were trying to locate transmitters off the coast of Big Sur. Of course there was no military component to it - it was for "measuring global warming."
I kid you not.
Wonder if they ever published their findings?
just one more reason to hate this psychopathic son of a bitch, I only hope I am alive when he is brought to justice
Hopefully NOW this will be reason enough to impeach him!
abob @ 22:
Raise your head above the sand, rise up beyond ignorance, look at how much destruction our own president has caused. An abomination to
ALL mammals!
>abob @ 22:
someone, and I will volunteer anytime, should take this fuck we have for a president, and you can come along too abob you ignorant fuck, to a bell tower somewhere and see what it feels like to be assaulted by sound vibration.
Pingjocky22 ,
eat shit and bark at the moon.
Maddy :
nicely put.
galmud @ 9:
Moby Dick!
...what can we expect from the Administration of Death?!
erick @ 64:
I wish that our anger, common sense and realization that we are all connected i.e. in this together, could have an impact on what is unquestioningly the greatest threat to world peace and totalitarian gov't in America, a government with more nukes and ways to kill than anyone has ever imagined in the history of this world, in the hands of two psychopaths named dick and george.
i guess after they couldn't find the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, the only logical thing to do was hunt down those Al Qaeda submarines...
Christians like Bush don't care about other life forms. They believe their supernatural deity put earth here for them to rape, plunder and pillage for ther own profit and consumption. The most loathsome and destructive form of life on this planet is a right wing conservative humanoid. Their only purpose to eat, consume and breathe. Not open to enlightenment or able to evolve.
I guess I should be outraged or something, but this is the 200th or so time he's done it, so I just shrug and pet my Bush Countdown Clock.
Whales of
Mass
Destruction
Hey Judge. Your honor. Fuck You! I AM THE LAW!!!
It's a shame how eager creationists are to kill-off living things older than our own species simply to promote their own short-term financial and political gains. Whales, 3,000 year old trees, polar bears. Yeah, who gives a shit, right repukes? That's ok. It's cool. you'll get yours soon enough. To bad Jesus is nothing more than a fairytale and, therefore, wont be there for ya in the end.
search "bush countdown clock" for sanity
Hey, we've fired our naval cannons at South Carolina before. The precedent is set. Why not revisit our 150-year-old traditions?
"they hate all living plants and animals equally..."
No, they don't hate. They're just shockingly ignorant and completely unworthy of the honor and responsibility of representing anyone, let alone the world's most powerful government.
Anyone who's as proud of their ignorance as GWB, and as dishonest in their dealings is not impressive. Which is beyond sad for all of us.
It's simply not enough to terrorize other human beings and kill more people in the Middle East than any other country. Bush needs to turn his eyes on the animal kingdom. National security? Fuck your fear buttons bush. Fuck your flouting of the law. 2008 is the beginning of a national repudiation of everything you bend over for.
Medical Diagnosis by Video @ 7:
Since not, how about taking Pelosi off the table. (and don't forget to take Hoyer on the way out).
Pingjocky22 @ 51:
Not as dire as we think? Where is YOUR proof. What have you studied?
Have you studied heartrates and respiration?...those are proofs of distress.
As is bleeding from the ears.
Perhaps you should have all your teeth extracted without anesthetic in a soundproof booth. I volunteer for the job!
Pingjocky22 @ 51:
Remove yourself from the gene pool.
Pingjocky22 @ 51:
From the Jan. 3 federal court injunction:
and from the NRDC:
I probably fit the DFH moniker, but the judge knows the facts of the case and ruled that the Navy needed to do more. Please, train to protect us from the remote threat of silent submarines from a rogue nation, but do so with appropriate measures to mitigate ecological destruction.
Hmmm, I understand that the President sometimes (in GW's case almost always) will make a signing statement to 'interpret' the law and how he will enforce it, but since when can he overrule the federal judiciary? They've made a ruling interpreting a law already on the books and I don't see anything in Article 2 of the Constitution that gives him the power to void it. The President swears an Oath to uphold and protect the Constitution, not wipe his ass with it. Legislative, Executive and Judiciary I seem to remember reading that many of the Founding Fathers didn't think we needed a President...times like this I can understand what they were thinking. Separation of powers be damned, I guess GW is in da House, damn judges and their stupid opinions and fuck those assholes who the people elected to write the laws. Will someone PLEASE spank George and make him sit in the corner.... o wait, his office is an Oval, maybe someone could find him a nice cell. I hear there might be a few empty ones down in Guantanomo! Ahh well, counting the days.
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." - Ghandi
the tard been hanging out with kings lately, and thinks himself a king too...
One more example of how BushCo. hates the world. What a douche.
The least shall be first. If there is a just God, then He will exact justice on this despicable idiot for destroying one of the most magnificent and gentle creatures to ever inhabit this earth. Bush has done nothing to save anything for future generations. His "Conservative Compassion" does not seem to include either conservation nor compassion.
that IS impeachable. busch has NO authority by the constitution to set aside laws. they have to be specificly granted by an act of congress.
Pingjocky22 @ 51:
Ken @ 48:
abob @ 22:
"I love whales as much as the next guy but our national security takes precedence over any bird, fish or mammal."
What irony. National Security is another word for stealing whatever the fuck they want at whatever cost to every fucking lifeform in bush/cheney's way.
National Security depends on locking up those fuckers and having a 5 minute deliberation before frying their asses with the same death penalty they impose on every living creature that walks the earth.
Now THAT would be the REAL use of National Security.
Just don't think too hard, you might bleed from the ears.
greg white @ 36:
Not when you're a wannabe dictator like His Majesty, Chimpy McFlightsuit.
What legal authority does that evil little man have which grants him the power to ignore these laws?
Bush makes the worst decision possible every time. To Bush, this is just another helpless frog to blow up for Dad and Barbara.
They don't call him the "Texas Butcher" for nothing.
Sad, Sad, Sad.
Well, I'm glad to see Bush is taking the killing of all life as we know it as important as his bilderberg friends.
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