Obama slams Bush after Bush misstates his foreign policy positions
By John Amato Sunday Feb 10, 2008 9:00am
On FNS, George Bush, knowing full well that the conservative base is cracking apart over McCain---had this to say about Barack Obama:
Bush: "I certainly don't know what he believes in. The only foreign policy thing I remember he said was he's going to attack Pakistan and embrace Ahmadinejad."
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Nice going, Chris. Way to clarify Obama's position. And you wonder why this country is so screwed up. He doesn't even have the decency to get the only things "he really knows" about Obama correct. It didn't take long for Obama to respond to Bush's falsehoods.
"Of course President Bush would attack the one candidate in this race who opposed his disastrous war in Iraq from the start. But Barack Obama doesn't need any foreign policy advice from the architect of the worst foreign policy decision in a generation," said Obama spokesman Bill Burton.
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Who keeps pulling that disgusting little moron's string? Give him some pretzels and send him back to the kid's table.
"But Barack Obama doesn’t need any foreign policy advice from the architect of the worst foreign policy decision in a generation,” said Obama spokesman Bill Burton.
Ouch babe!
Pretty much sums it up.
I don't know. I think Bush actually believes what he is saying and so does the rest of his party. I mean, these are the guys that "knew" there were WMD in Iraq, that "knew" they were going to be greated with flowers, and made it appear that Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11. Bush is just keeping to his true form. Incompetent, backwards, and knows nothing about foreign policy. Huckabee is following in his footsteps. After all, it was Huckabee that stated the Taliban are Iraq. With guys like Bush its no wonder the U.S. is getting its ass kicked.
Nice of bush to not even be able to pronounce "Ahmadinejad". Hell, even I have learned how to do it correctly.
I love the response by Obama's team. Great smack down and right on target too.
Bush gave the same line, although worded a bit differently, as the trolls use. "I don't know anything about him".
PRAVDA'SChris Wallace show should be called "Softball". The place where easy questions are lobbed at the idiot pres.Jesus! Why doesn't Bush just crawl under a rock and stay there. This presidents policies have been disasterous! He can't be srious. I can't stand we have to wait 344 days til he gets out of office. It couldn't be soon enough!
Bush has set the bar so low in his presidency that it makes Huckabee look like he's semi intelligent.
W forgot to mention that Obama's a muslim. Totally off script.
By the way, there is a great joke from the movie Full Metal Jacket that Bush can use to describe his "fighting" chickenhawk party. He can change around the wording a bit to make it fit. Something like this:
We'll be glad to sell you some of the rifles used by the Republican party to fight this "war". They've never been fired and only dropped once."
im glad bush thinks he is Abraham Lincoln reincarnated... when will he go to the theater?
Wow. You just never know what Cheney is going to say when Bush opens his mouth.
Obama's spokesperson got it wrong. It's not the worst foreign policy decision in our generation. It's the worst policy decision of the past 50 years, at least.
Bush criticized him for wanting to attack Pakistan less then a week after an American UAV killed a top commander in the northwest border region of Pakistan. Within a week of Obama saying that we should open up diologue with Iran, a group of Republicans went to Iran to do just that. Disingenuous much?
below_me, good one. lol.
Welcome to November...minus the Rastus slime.
Can't believe that it I never thought of HUCK! in comparison to W.
p.o.p., Huck's a friggin Rhodes scholar in comparison. At least he knows what's in one book. (Not that he cares much about the overall meaning of it. He just wants to be the biggest Bible thumper of them all. Too bad Huckleberry won't get the chance to drive that whole movement into the ground like W did the thug party. That's the only use for Huck: to destroy the movement of religion into politics.)
Does Bush ever say anything that isn't contradictory? Almost any time this old fool speaks he helps the Democrats and hurts his already fucked up party.
Good boy Barrack. Now what you need to say next is . . . "Look, soon or later your going to have to put your life on the line for something so you may as well start now if we intend to fix this wreck of a country Bush Co has left us."
The GOP's only hope of preventing their own mass extinction would have to be keeping Georgie Boy away from a camera between now and the election. Better yet, let him talk, and let his defenders deal with the damage.
John F A @ 19:
Talk about a tall order! :lol:
David Flores @ 12:
I'd go so far as to say it's the worst foreign policy blunder in all of American History.
The republic slime machine is just getting geared up. That sleaze delay even crawled out from under his rock to be on ABC this weekend. We ain't seen nuthin' yet. (HT to BTO)
There are only 3 things wrong with the interview.
1. If Bush's lips are moving he is lying.
2. Chris is a liar.
3. Fox news is a lying propaganda tool.
Bit NOLA @ 16:
I know what you're saying and here's why I made that comment. Yesterday Huck was on Meet the Press. My husband was watching it with me. He turned to me and said, At least the guy isn't a total mental fu*k up like bush. That's when I reminded him that bush had set the mental bar so low that almost any reasonable human being could cross it with ease. He thought about what I said for a second and said, "Hell, you are exactly right. We have become so accustomed to bush's shallow thinking and speaking that hearing anyone complete a sentence and produce an idea makes us notice them. Sad state of affairs, isn't it?
"This world is too complex, the decisions are too important to be trying to, you know, chase your — chase popularity. And as far as history goes and all of these quotes about people trying to guess what the history of the Bush administration is going to be, you know, I take great comfort in knowing that they don't know what they are talking about, because history takes a long time for us to reach."-Dumya yesterday
Shorter version- "I hear the Voices sayin' I'm the Worst President Ever, but, ya know 'Ever' is a long ways off"
Bush told Chris Wallace he was just a simple president. At least he got that right!
It's the Democrat-ic party you ignorant m.f. Why do they let this man out of the White House? He just embarasses himself himself every time he opens his mouth?
It's just so sad...he has so little intelligence, no grasp on reality, and yet Chris Wallace and his ilk still seem to give him a platform (as they do all the other right-wing nonsense) that plays to the populace.
Sad.
November can't come early enough.
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Bush isn't the architect. He's a front man who does what he is told to do.
PNAC runs America. Behind the scenes as a secret government. They are back in the game with McCain.
Every time MSM puts on Bush, Delay, and Rove they just lose more credibility. But wait, when have they had credibility?
What's shocking about Bush is that we're not shocked by him anymore.
He's lowered a lot of bars. And when he heads back to Texas, I imagine the Crawford drinking establishments will be competing fiercely for his bidness.
Huck can get back to the church, and eating fried chicken, squirrels, etc.
Gluttonous party of freaks.
President McCain. . . . Wolfowitz, Perle, Wurmster, Feith, Libby, Bolton. America will have a second chance to bomb the world into submission.
I had submitted comments regarding this post and both times the comments did not appear. Does anyone know why this was so or was it because my comments were critical of Obama?
Thank You.
34 - Erroll-sometimes comments get eaten. It's not because you were critical of Obama. It would take more than that for your comments to be deleted here.
Forget precendent on this...it is totally inappropriate for the sitting president to be so involved with party and elections. Doesn't this guy have more important things to do?
Bit NOLA @ 8:
Hum, Obama is a Christian (United Church of Christ, last I heard)
We would never heard the end of it if a Muslim, Buddhist, Jew, or Atheist was to run for the presidential office.
Heck, last time a Catholic was elected, he didn't even ended his term with all his brain matter intact.
The only candidate to oppose the war from the start? But I'd read that Obama and Clinton voted exactly the same on every issue. Someone somewhere is fibbing.
seth @ 36:
I think Bush has screwed up just about everything in this world already. Let him have his way with his party. With Bush involved, it will sink for sure. lol
Fox is doing the special interviews to try to improve Bush's legacy. Ha ha ha! That's funny.
bush = dumbest fucker ever
a person @ 38:
You need to read more.
P.D. @ 31:
Unfortunately, the problem is that the media in the US now is more like a PR machine. This is, most of the people in the media, it seems, are communication majors not journalist. Two very different approaches.
For example, when Bush goes on national TV and basically says: "I have not fucking idea what I am talking about, but let me pull something out of my arse." It is the job of a journalist, to inform the people that the president is fucking wrong and provide the counterpoint that would be something like "Well, Mr. President, actually you are wrong because Obama's positions are such and such."
However, ever since this dipshit took office he got the kid gloves treatment, and he has never ever have to engage on a contrarian argument. This is no longer a democracy, this is if anything a selective monarchy. The beauty of a democracy is that you get to say "fuck you" to the president's face, and he gets to take it.
a person @ 38:
And you know, if something's written down, it must be true!!!
I wonder what the puppet strings are made of so we can't see them? Monafiliment fishing line perhaps?
Ron @ 42:
Obama's and Clinton's voting record during the tenure in which both were senators, was fairly similar. Keyword "fairly"
Obama's imaginary voting record is however the issue here, alas since we don't live in Obama lah lah land, it is a bit interesting how a lot of people take his statement as "I would have voted against the war on Iraq" as in "I actually voted against the Iraq war resolution."
Hillary suck big donkey balls as far as my lefty ass is concerned, however Obama is just talk plain and simple.
We're screwed either way, GOP, Dem... no person in this race is going to change much if elected. All that we can pray and hope is that the person who takes after Bush is not as bad. Which is not a feat really, and which means that we are settling for such a lowered set of expectations that it is sickening.
fwacbar @ 41:
Smartest fucker ever. He did everything he did knowing none of us had the balls to shoot him in the head. He says the things he does to distract you from the real BS he has cooked up. His words on Obama will resonate with Republicans who will now be prompted to vote just because they believe "Obama = Osama". It's that simple. Promoting to the lowest common denominator and doing it, knowing no American is going to wait for him at a rally and put a bullet between his eyebrows.
Dude - you are something else
Yesterday when Huckabee was asked about the fried squirrels and why he fried them and ate them, he said something like, well you have to do something with them. I took from that, that he and his pals shot the squirrels for sport and then justified it by eating them. This is the guy who is all about the sanctity of life, but only human life I guess.
I kinda wish Huck would get his party's nomination. That would be so much fun.
Let's just hope that bush leaves at the end of his term and doesn't have some other tricks up the long arm of his Martial law sleeve.
Ron @ 40:
The sad part is that his approval numbers went up slightly, he is probably the worst president in the past hundred years. And yet, with all the means of communication and information, that were not available to the general public a hundred years ago. This moron still has over 30% approval record.
Think about it, 1 in every 3 Americans is still A-OK with this feller's presidential performance.
The Dude @ 50:
Sorry I laughed. Saaaaaad.
P.D. @ 26:
Everyone knows he isn't the President. After stealing two elections, the country hasn't had one for seven+ years.
Resident ,yes.
So he didn't even get that one right. Sorry! (Not)
The Dude @ 50:
That is not really suprising. After all, Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin and many others all had their followers right up to the bitter end. This will always be those that simply will not turn against their "leader" no matter what he/she does.
This morning on the Joe show, Pat Buchanan said that 60% of republicans approve of bush. And I think he said something like 80% of bush's base approve of him. Egads! I would like to ask those folks some questions.
Dude, you're right. Between election coverage and Natalie Holoway real news goes unreported. The fact Bush is trying to get all those judges approved is not even mentioned. And on Faux News, you have Barbie Dolls and old geezers spouting out drivel and they unwashed masses buy it. Depressing,no?
L.A. Confidential @ 30:
Isn't that the truth!! Thanks for saying it out loud.
Yeah yeah yeah. We all know Bush is useless (insert profanity here). So what else is new? But honestly, If I hear "I was the only person in the world who was against the war" come out of Superstar's mouth one more time, I think I'm going to puke. If you're so much against it, quit resting your derriere on a damn speech you gave years ago and work to cut off the funding. Don't sneak into the damn Senate and vote on the issue after its decided.
pissed off patricia @ 49:
The funny part is that squirrels are vectors for a lot of diseases, they are pretty much rats with fluffy tails. The fact that peeps like Huckabee get to be old and crusty, even after engaging in such an stupid behavior, is clear proof IMHO that god loves and protects the stupid.
He doesn't know. And, having said he doesn't know, he then goes on to opine about what he doesn't know.
Is there anything this administration DOES know? They "didn't know" terrorists would use airplanes as missiles. They "didn't know" Hamas would win the election instead of Fatah. They "didn't know" the levees would collapse.
Of course, what they supposedly *do* know is wrong. They knew Saddam had WMD's; he didn't. They knew we'd be greeted as liberators; we haven't. They knew Iran was working on nuclear weapons; they aren't. They think the economy is doing great, and that their tax cuts are the reason; it isn't, and they aren't.
The Dude @ 43:
Oh just wait until a Democrat is elected President. The pendulum is going to swing back HARD. every word that a Democratic President utters will be analyzed, disected and held up to ridicule. If a Democrat so much as pauses to say "um", that tape will be played on a continuous loop as "proof" that some other president is dumber than Dumbya.
Pissed off Patricia, My own mother is one of those sad diluded fools. She and her religious brethen honesty believe Bush is spreading Christianity in the middle east. People like her put their fingers in their ears and pray for the rapture. Sad.
Shadowgm @ 59:
Bingo! Your comment covers it all, and nicely, I might add.
This prick is a dysfunctionally retarded , period . He couldn't tell the truth if is ignorant ass depended on it . I have never and sure I never will hate an individual as much as this sack of shit we are stuck with for 344 more days . I wouldn't piss on his head if it was on fire but I would love to if it wasn't .
Chico @ 2:
That has got to hurt the egos of chim chim's apologists! Although numb-nuts will never see it as he is in such a bubble.
P.D. @ 61:
My mother in law and sister in law are there too. Probably some other of my in laws as well. Thank goodness my husband did not catch whatever it is that many in his family have. He is about as opposite from them as he could be. Me? I just try to keep my mouth shut real tight when I'm around them.
Lone Rougue@47, unfortunately for us, most democrats tend to be a pretty law abiding bunch (and admittedly lousy shots) We lack the neccessary "crazy gene" that produces a really motivated assassin.
I hate that motherf$cking worm. And Wallace is the weasel that grins and says nothing. What a circus.
I'm going to be so happy when Bush goes away.
Well, you know the difference between Conservatives and Liberals do you/ Liberals think and Conservatives want people to think for them. That is why they will always follow a Conservative over a cliff.
right on! @ 56:
And those who don't know what the PNAC Committee's goals are, can copy, paste and read:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0465027261/qid=1098564728/sr=2-2/...
Why is the criminal madman bush still free? why? Why? WHy? WHY? WHY???
pissed off patricia @ 54:
Those numbers are both correct and beautiful.
They pave the road heading directly over a cliff that the GOP and their believers will follow in November. Good riddance !
P.D. @ 61:
Sadly my mother and other relatives try to spout the same nonsense. That the war in Iraq is biblically written and is the beginning of Armageddon. When I asked her to show me said verse and also where it is written that it is ok to lie through your teeth to get us into a war and then profit from that war. She then goes into the "only a libruul does not believe what is right in front of you" nonsense.
I am a God fearing man and believe many things in the bible. I am not embarrassed to say this. What I will not do is allow my beliefs to be intermixed and corrupted with politics as the conservative cult has done. A church that does not allow any type of critical thinking is nothing more than a cult in my eyes and I am out of there faster than anything!
Conservatives and republicans have made an absolute mockery of Christianity. It is sad as so many young people could benefit from the good points that it offers --- as long as politic are not intermixed.
gene214 @ 21:
Invading Iraq was not a "foreign policy blunder" any more than 9/11 was an attack by
"foreign terrorists." All of what has transpired during the Bush years has not been an accident, but an orchestrated plan. The neo-con, zionist, elitist crowd's plan to enable the spread of their hegemony around the globe.
Chico @ 71:
I hope you're right and I'm wrong about my dooms day predictions involving (p)Residential Directive 51.
Amitola @ 73:
Ronald Reagan and GHWBush talked about it during the eighties: The New World Order.
FOX News clarifying Obama's true position?! The same people who called him Barack Hussein Obama from a Madrassa. The same people who smears any democrat at the drop of a hat? The same people who echo fear-mongering white house propaganda with an added zeal? The "news" channel of the far-right fringe pimping corporate whores like O'Reilly and Hannity? The same channel Obama refuses to be on until after the primary.
FOX is nothing but Dumbya's echo chamber.
Chris, why don't you just fellate der leader and get it over with? That would be a lot more insightful than that smarmy performance.
Oh don't be too hard on Chimpy . . . he doesn't even know what his OWN foreign policy is so how can he be expected to know someone elses?
When Obama attacks Bush (albeit through a spokesman????!!!) he
begins to sound like a man.
When he attacks Clinton, he sounds like a schmuck. (That he does in person......)
OMG
No wonder the USA is in such a mess.
CheneyIsADick @ 75 & 75:
You are correct. I've been saying on C&L and some other places for a long time that
we'd better not let down our guard. It's very difficult for me to believe that Cheney/Bush have spent so much time putting "executive orders," "legislation," and "Presidential Directives" on the books not to use them to extend their power. They don't seem like the types who would pass up such an opportunity: create another false flag "terrorist attack" to scare the bejeebus out of Americans again, then use all of these orders and directives to "legally" unleash Blackwater and US Forces against citizens (don't forget the Violent Radicalization of Home Grown Terrorists Act - we're all terrorists, now). Then they'll postpone the elections, bomb Iran, let the worldwide ecomony crash, etc., etc., etc. We'll see.
I meant @ 74 & 75.....
Is Obama A Republican Plant?
Amitola @ 81:
Another wild idea:
1. Laura Bush assassinated sometime in Nov.
2. World mourns, America mourns
3. Bush points finger at Iran
4. Bush, Congress postpone elections till this matter is settled.
5. America attacks Iran.
Looks like Bush woke up a bit foggy today.
right on! @ 56:
Those who haven't read the PNAC would be well advised to do so and see who actually pulls the strings in this Country. I'm surprised that it hasn't been classified.
Abraham Lincoln:
'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.
Forest Grump:
Stupid is as stupid does
SweetAtheist:
Bush is just plain stupid
He's right you know...we shouldn't concentrate on him...except to continue to remind America that the bastard has all but ruined this country to the point that it will take decades from which to recover. And the biggest reminder is that it was Republicans that made it possible. The same Republicans that are going to have yet another candidate next November which will give us our last chance - until the election in '12 - to get even with the prick(s).
And as for Wallace, the gonad-less jerk had a wide open opportunity to respond to geedubya's comment about nobody knowing anything about Obama with a 'well nobody really knew anything about you either in 2000 but it didn't keep us from screwing the pooch in electing you'.
Bushy-boy was never too good about doing the strawman thing. Wallace could have at least kept his mind going a little bit. I am sure we would have gotten a much better response if they payed attention.
But I got to remember our Pres doesn't pay too much attention to catching Bin laden or having cohesive thoughts or anything but brush in Crawford and pretzels.
BTW Cheney isn't a Dick, he's a pussy. That's why he ran from every war he was invited to, and sent other men's sons and daughters to die in the ones he made money on.
As for that propaganda piece, we all know that wasn't an interview. The questions and answers were both scripted before hand. There were prompters off camera feeding him lines. With all of this, the retarded fuck can't even finish a sentence properly, or stop from slurrrrrrrrring his words. Me thinks chimpy is rocked on some Jacky D.
Anyway, there are only two things that sick sad POS can remember: when it's vacation time, and to make god damned sure there is immunity for him and all the crime family.
The bush crowd are a really dense lot. I lived in South Carolina for a bit and they thought I was some kind of demon because i practiced Tai-Chi. Ignorance abounds in Amuricer, at least in the south east. when I lived in CA and AZ it was a whole different feel people there seemed to be able to reason. (reason is the key people.) and if you are able to use any reasoning at all you can see that these people in charge of America right now are total
idiot'straitors to their country.actor212 @ 83:
No chance. This would jeopardize the control they have over their OWN sheeple.
wild idea @ 84:
Now that's heavy - is that how you see it happening?
I'm only asking because deep in the back of my mind I'm telling myself not to be surprised when boosh declares martial law, suspends elections, and makes himself Dictator of America sometime this year. My biggest problem is figuring out what has to happen for him to pull it off. Laura getting bumped off hasn't crossed my mind as an option for him yet.
L.A. Confidential @ 33:
I read or saw somewhere that William the Bloody (Kristol) is going to be McCain's foreign policy advisor.
Obama will NOT be swift-boated!
Bud @ 93:
If you want to see the different scenario's just google "False Flag Attack"
It's been done in the past more than you realize and will happen in the future.
Ok... Barack just scored a couple of points with me then.
That is PRECISELY what the Dems need to do. Any time somebody misquotes them, paints them as soft on terror or otherwise defames them they need to step up immediately and fire back with both barrels. Fuck all this civility shit. Trying to be civil with these assholes is what got us into this mess in the first place.
Way to go Barack!.
Have I got this straight? The Chimp would be critical of Obama for bombing the wrong country? Oh, the irony of it all!
Oh ... and seeing as our divinely-inspired, divinely-chosen, cries-on-God's-shoulder president is so wrong about things in the secular world, why do people even believe he's got an ounce of street cred when it comes to religion?
Interesting that Bush should bring up the future, rather than the past, as how to judge candidates. The Repub's vision for our future, as expressed by Bomb Bomb Bomb McCain is for 50, 100, or more years of war. Now THAT'S something to look forward to, rather than looking back on Bush's lies and stupid policies.
Mike Wallace gripes the hell out of me. Did he beat little Chris too little or too much?
I'm glad to see that Obama has learned from Kerry's mistakes!
It's a damn shame that this President legitimizes stupidity in America... I'm serious.
David Flores @ 12:
No. It's the worst foreign policy decision EVER.
“Of course President Bush would attack the one candidate in this race who opposed his disastrous war in Iraq from the start. But Barack Obama doesn’t need any foreign policy advice from the architect of the worst foreign policy decision in a generation,”
Ron Paul opposed the war from the start too. He even voted against it!!
"You're the pundit...I'm just a simple president."
Oh you certainly are that, George!
Sheep’s clothing looks good on you
Hiding your scrawny cage of bone
Suffering the hollowed out words
You ricochet off those ears of stone!
You've a disease! You are bushlemic!
Regurgitated words of blood and flesh
Howling to your nationalistic stupor
Writhing through constitutional genuflect!
It’s your eyes, however, that give you away
Casting about, an empty ship in the Dead Sea
Scanning `round for something smart to say
As your disease takes hold your constituency
Sheep’s clothing… Oh! It looks good on you
Shadowing the truth now locked out of sight
Masking your hubris and all your crimes, too
Bushlemia’s only antedote- your final throe.
Bud @ 93:
Stewie from "Family Guy" is now President of the World.
There are no lows these people will not sink to. There are no morals that can constrain them. There are no ethical considerations in these minds. There are no laws that can contain them. The rest of the world sees Bush as a dictator, yet the neocon followers worship Bush. It is a terrible thing that has happened to our country.
The Dude @ 58:
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Dude, your squirrel comment is chocked full of ignorance. Ever seen the list of diseases you can get from beef? Or tainted canned green beans? Stop trying to tie squirrel hunters to Huckabee's sorry ass... It sounds more like you're attacking Huckabee because he's from the South, which is prejudice, plain and simple. As for squirrels being disease vectors, I was born and raised in Arkansas myself and I've eaten squirrel before, not my favorite food, but I've never even heard of someone getting a disease from properly prepared squirrel meat... (Why am I defending the comsumption of squirrels...?) Your statement isn't very true.
E in MD @ 96:
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Did you actually go to the link provided by C & L? If you did, as I wrote in my comments at #32, you would have found that Obama made no mention of Pakistan. But if you go to the link that I provided, you would have found that Obama has advocated in the past bombing Pakistan on what he calls "actionable intelligence" which, as I stated, is not the best way of winning the hearts and minds of the Pakistani people.
It appears that Obama is trying to position himself to the right of Bush and even Clinton. It will be interesting to see who among the Democratic nominees is even more militant and bellicose than George W. Bush and especially John McCain.
Reich-wingers, are you proud that your lil failure-in-chief has no problem lying about and smearing fellow Americans? How completely despicable.
How much longer do we have to be suspected to GW's dumb-ass face, ridiculous statements...I mean impeach this effing asshole NOW!
"suspected" should be "subjected."
below_me @ 10:
If you set up a fund to pay for theater tickets for George, there would be enough contributions to pay off the deficit.
Bud @ 93:
I hate to say that this is a fantasy, but the reality is that Cheney will not relinquish his power that easily, and he will do anything to keep it that way, including sailing in the murky waters in the dead black of nights.
Obama's team was right on top of this. That's as it should be. Instead of bickering with one another, the Democratic candidates should be running against this fool.
Bush is so accustomed to 'yes-men' and the sound of his own voice, he will probably be surprised to be called on one of his distortions of the truth. And pissed.
Go, Dems.
The Dude @ 46:
Obama in 2002: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXzmXy226po&NR=1
Nuff' said.
Carakan@116 That's the same damn if you do damn if don't stupid shit that got us Bush in 2000. There is no way you can convince me that Obama or Clinton will be as bad as these once in a lifetime fuck ups. Go ahead give up and bend over, I'm sure your vote wouldn't have meant shit any way.
Ron @ 40:
See is the moron in chief going to be seen every day on faux news.?
so is......
#109
Obama did not advocate bombing Pakistan. He said he would take action if Musharraf didn't if there is actionable intelligence.
Obama can't honestly think this whole "I was against the war from the start" thing is carrying any weight with people who are paying attention, if so I have some insight.. I have written down some myths about Obama, and thought I'd share..
Myth: Obama has the experience needed to be president
Truth: Obama decided to run for President after only 2 years as a US senator.. so, exactly 1/3 of his senate experience has been spent running for president. Additionally, in his short stint as a state senator, he spent much of that time trying to get elected to the US Congress, which might explain why he voted present 130 times as state senator, including a bill to prohibit sex-related shops from opening near schools or places of worship. The bill did not get the required three-fifths majority, so it did not pass.
Myth: Obama voted against Iraq war
Truth: He was not a US senator at the time, and yet he has the audacity to attack Hillary for actually trusting the official reports to the Senate from the US intelligence community which undeniably stated as fact that Saddam Hussein had WMD's. Shame on you Obama!
Myth: Obama & Clinton have the same voting record
Truth: Since 1/1/07, Obama & Clinton have differed 37 times on important votes. Out of those 37 votes, 100% of them were because Obama chose NOT TO VOTE, which is reminiscent of his "present" votes as a state senator.
Myth: Only Obama can win in the Fall
Truth: Most of the independants and republicans voting in the democratic primaries for Obama are just trying to keep Hillary from getting the nomination so that they can turn around and vote for a republican in the fall.
Myth: Bill & Hillary Clinton are racist.
Truth: This is completely absurd, yet Obama has managed to get over 80% of blacks to vote for him since spreading this lie, which has tilted the scales in his advantage as whites are voting their conscience and blacks are voting for him because of the color of his skin. Shame on you again Obama! Bill & Hillary fought hard to help poor people including blacks for most of their extensive careers. Bill Clinton was dubbed the first black president for crying out loud!
Myth: Obama's health care is good for people with low income
Truth: Poor people will still have to choose between health insurance and paying rent or putting food on the table since his plan does not cover everybody. Hillary's plan does cover EVERYBODY, and only people who can pay for it are expected to pay.
Go Hillary, I just hope people will open their eyes and realize that you are the real choice for Democrats in this country.. The super delegates know who the right person for the job is, and should not be swayed by indpendents and republicans showing up at democratic caucuses to try and keep the best candidate from being nominated.. truly shameful!
bush trying to be relevant=funny
I think the reason the Republicans are backing off from McCain and pushing Huckabee is because of Huckabee's tentative scheme to expel the Palestinian Arabs from Gaza, the plan being to get Bush's presumptive successor assassinated. My guess is that they already have their terrorist fall guy selected for the mission.
Greg@122 You are a lying sack of shit! Bill Clinton and co. are responsible for his stupid comments about the civil rights movement. No one made him say that dumb shit, especially the comment that Pres. Johnson was equally as important as MLK, a man who risked and eventually lost his life in that struggle. We African Americans ran from the Clintons in droves after those comments. Before the Clintons racially insensitive and historically dumb remarks, I didn't give a shit who won between Barak or Hillary. Check out the change of support in the black community from that point on. It is easy and baseless to accuse us black folk of a social sickness that white people have clearly cornered the historic market on in this country.
I am not going to spin anything nor redefine or hallucinate any BS. Two weeks before the Iraq war vote, Barack gave a speech against the war.
The compete video of the speech is not available.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUV69LZbCNQ
And for the Barack smear artist, the text of that speech.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama's_Iraq_Speech
The more the pro-Hillary people smear Barack, the more I despise Hillary. And if you are chickenshit concern troll rethug, pack sand.
Barack's Iraq Speech text
OBAMA believes in telling the TRUTH......Mr. President.
Obama believes in "CHANGE" from the LIES to the TRUTH.
Change is about to COME to cross road with the seven years of "STAYING THE COURSE" of your failed policies of the republican party led by your successful destruction Mr. President.
It may not have matter to you that you are leaving a HUGE mess to the next administration. We understand this because of your history of capitalizing from the opportunities of your notorious intended destruction and failures. This time it is not merely just the opportunities of destroying a sport team as a business venture or destroying a corporate giant as an opportunity for you to reap the benefits from this, or the business opportunity of allowing a whole city or nation to destruction, it IS actually the destruction of human-beings at your whims.
You have singlehandedly damaged the name of AMERICA and crushed the bedrock of our civilization.
YES indeed WE don't expect YOU to understand what OBAMA believe IN........for he is on the side of those of us who you have damaged and continue to damage. We understand that you stand in one side of the extreme and YOU will cross your match, at the opposite side of your extreme.
When you cross that path, it will be the people that will be the judge and jury. It will be OUR laws and Constitution that will be OUR guide.
Millions of innocent people have suffered, displaced, died and wounded from your SINS. You sold yourself to the devil, you listened the "evildoers", you listened to CHENEY. Sadly you lack the capacity to know the common knowlege to differentiate what is Good and what is Evil and failed to anticipate the cosequences for your actions and failed actions.
At the End Mr. President, it is our duty to make certain that YOU and any future elected officials will put an end to this reckless believe that YOU are above the LAW.
NO Mr. President, NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW, not even YOU.
Greg @ 122:
Great post.
If Obama were honest he would say that he was against the war "at" the start - instead of "from the start".
Since 2002 he has been a profile in nothingness.
ronhohn @ 120:
Did you actually read my comments all the way through? If you had, you would have discovered that I had indeed mentioned Obama's usage of the words "actionable intelligence." If you had read beyond that, you would have also learned that bombing Pakistan is not the best way of winning the hearts and minds of the Pakistani people. But then it should not be too surprising to hear Obama [as has H. Cclinton] say this, as he had also said in the past that he wishes to keep the nuclear option on the table vis a vis Iran. As I stated earlier, it is as if Obama and Clinton are attempting to discover which of them is more militaristic and more bellicose than George W. Bush and/or John McCain.
Bud @ 93:
Now that he's preznit, Laura is expendable. And seeing as they haven't slept in the same bed for almost 5 years, I'm sure chimpy would whack her just for the sympathy sex.
As long as congress passes ex post facto immunity, not only for all the companies, but for the whole administration, then you can have your country back. If there is any chance that these walking sacks of shit might have to stand trial for all their crimes, then we might have a problem.
Correction on post ##130. Both Obama and Clinton have stated that they wish to leave the nuclear option open in bombing Iran, which would mean the deaths of many innocent Iranian people and against a country which has never threatened anyone in these United States.
jwf @ 103:
The war in Iraq has NOTHING to do with foreign policy.
That should be obvious to everyone.
Erroll @ 130:
Anyone who would bomb or invade a country on so-called "actionable intelligence" should have their noggins examined.
Have we learned absolutely nothing from the wars in Vietnam and Iraq - both started with bullshit actionable intelligence?
Funny stuff. LOL.
Prabhata @ 135:
Yeah, it's f*cking hysterical. Moron.
Truelove@133 Tell that BS to the many nations who since this immoral invasion/occupation have lost all trust and respect for OUR foreign policy. True love, you seem truly ignorant.
Left&Left @ 137:
Left & Left
I believe that TrueLove's comments at #134 are in basic agreement to your core beliefs.
Erroll@138 Both Obama and Hillary are guilty of butt kissing the sector of the country that feels orgasmic when we threaten other (usually smaller)nations. Those two fools bought into the myth that "the Democrats are weak on defense." They felt compelled to stick out their chest to appease the war loving imperialistic groups on the right. Listen, saying and doing are completely different. Hillary and Obama are two highly intelligent people and I have faith that unlike Pres. Caligula they will think and reason out every possible situation before action.
actually, matthews was incredulous of bush's statement, and even followed up with, "why do think he's gotten this far....?"
so i don't understand where matthews fucked up here......and believe, i am no fan of this guy. in fact, the rest of the interview was terrible.
sorry, not matthews, but wallace
if obama is so anti-war, i want to see him pull the troops ASAP if elected....
I'm sure your candidate wants your endorsement too there Douchey. Bush is clinically demented!
bryancri @ 142:
Excellently put. But it is quite doubtful if he will do so as he is in favor of leaving some troops in even after they are withdrawn [talk about being hypocritical] and advocates that other troops be redeployed "over the horizon", to places such as Kuwait and Qatar, which, by doing so, will do little to mollify the justifiable fears of the Iraqis that the U.S. will return those troops back into Iraq at a moment's notice. So much for the claim that the Democrats are the anti-war party of the United States.
Errol @144 Pull the troops ASAP? Who promised this shit? Even the most extreme anti-war lefty knows that it is illogical to immediately remove the troops. Go ahead, create an impossible bar just for Obama so you can declare him a failure before giving him a chance. I can tell that some of you "progressives" voted for Bush. If this nation is awarded a Pres. McInsane, you can thank the person in the mirror.
Left&Left @ 137:
Would you explain how the invasion of Iraq constitutes "foreign policy"?
I haven't the time to go through all the comments, but can somebody please explain to me what the misunderstanding is? I'm not being facetious, I'd really like to know what quotes from Obama on Iran and Pakistan are being twisted.
Left&Left @ 145:
I don't think it is too high a bar to set for a President.
I would vote for someone who will announce their intention to withdraw troops when taking office.
I have little or no interest in people who want to let the situation brew and see what we can salvage.
so this obama goes on and on about how he voted against the war, about how opposed to the war (and this president) he is, but does he really mean it? or does he just want your vote?
TomPiltoff @ 147:
Obama said that the bombing of Iran (with the undenied implication of the use of Nuclear weapons) was "on the table".
He still is talking about the "threat" of Iran to the region.
Obama said that if he had "actionable intelligence" (very reliable as we all know) he would invade Pakistan with or without the OK of President Musharaf in the pursuit of Bin Laden or other terrists.
People can think either or both of the above are good or lousy ideas - but that is what he said.
Left&Left @ 145:
"... it is illogical to immediately remove the troops." What is more logical, allowing troops to remain in Iraq, where they are not only illegally and immorally occupying another country, but are giving al Qaeda the largest recruiting tool imaginable by having those troops stay in Iraq? Perhaps you might want to try explaining to the family member whose son or husband died or returned to this country maimed or crippled because this alleged agent of change and hope would not allow the troops to return until 16 to 18 months after he becomes president.
You believe that Obama, the alleged savior of the Democratic party, should be "given a chance." A chance to do what, have more of those troops return to this country in body bags and with less arms and legs than when they entered Iraq? Obama loves to point out how he voted against the war but yet he is much less forthcoming in reminding people that he has each and every single time never voted to cut off the funds for the occupation which he claims to be so against. As I mentioned earlier, he wishes to leave some troops in Iraq even after he finally gets around to withdrawing them as well as leaving a force of American troops in places like Kuwait and Qatar. As i wrote earlier, not exactly the best way to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqis, since the Iraqis realize that American troops could be rushed back into their country at any given time. But perhaps their views do not matter because their faces are not white. All the while, Obama claims to be the anti-war candidate. Withe someone like Obama, the troops and the Iraqis would not have to look very far to discover who their enemies are. Despite what the Democrats may claim, the differences between they and the Republicans are extremely slight
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