Looks like this is the only Web Site covering the FISA Vote.

Thanks Mike!

Let me see if I got this straight. They got confessions using torture. They don't want the torture to mess up prosecutions so they have spent 16 months getting the same info they got under torture so now its all legit. Do I have that right?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23120362

To ensure that the data would not be tainted by allegations of torture or illegal coercion, the FBI and military team won the suspects' trust over the past 16 months by using time-tested rapport-building techniques, the officials said.

Was coercive interrogation needed?
An unanswered question is whether the FBI and military interrogators could have extracted the same information without a road map from the CIA indicating what they might say. It also remains unknowable whether the detainees would have responded to a friendly approach without first receiving more aggressive treatment.

Basically the top 1% clearly see whats coming and they are fortifying their global fortresses and consolidating wealth and power into as few hands as possible while the rest of continue to cling to the fantasy we'll maybe get another cheap oil and gasoline fiesta.

In regards to Comcast... I would like for them to define "reasonable person". I may find something offensive or in poor taste, but as long as it's not hate (or bullying) speech or child pornography, I'll just ignore it and go my own way. However, what's to stop some "reasonable person" from finding some content on this site as offensive.

senate is voting on the feinstein amendment right now.

Did anyone hear the Tom Sullivan Show yesterday at about 3:00pm Central when he played tapes of Hitler's speeches and put them up against Obama's speeches for about 20 minutes? It was disgraceful.

How would one go about getting the audio/transcript of that?

Also on the Comcast story.

Since we are not allowed to mention nine-eleven on this site, (and i won't even comment on the relevance to censorship) I posted a comment on the Common Cause site below the Comcast story.

Hope you will all read it.

Water torture has been acknowledged by the United States to be illegal since at least 1901 when an Army officer was convicted and sentenced to 10 years imprisonment for using it to torture a Philippine rebel.

In 1947, a Japanese officer was prosecuted by the United States for strapping a U.S. civilian to a tilted stretcher and pouring water over his face until he agreed to talk. The officer was convicted of a Violation of the Laws and Customs of War and was sentenced to 15 years of hard labor.

In 1968, the Washington Post published a photograph of an American soldier supervising the use of water torture on a North Vietnamese prisoner. The victim was being held down as water was poured over a cloth covering his nose and mouth to induce "a flooding sense of suffocation and drowning meant to make him talk." The soldier was charged, convicted and discharged from the Army.

Pat Leahy's ridiculous assertion yesterday that he would join Dodd in the "filibuster" was one of the more craven and dishonest moves in this debate. The rules they have all agreed to have precluded a true filibuster, so what he means is he'll stand up and support Dodd in the limited time allotted. The time for Leahy to take a stand was when Reid substituted the Intelligence bill for the Judiciary, and Leahy said nothing.

The Democrats have conspired to give Bush everything he wants. We're going to get screwed. Nobody should pretend to be a hero here.

Update: Woo hoo! You lose. Dodd's amendment to strip retroactive immunity fails spectacularly, 31-67. I have to say that what constantly amazes me is just how damn little it costs corporate America to buy our elected officials. Pennies on the dollar, really, for what they get.

None of these gutless, self-serving people are very good role models.

It never ceases to amaze me how some people continue to obsess over the dishonesty of Republicans, when the Democrats were so obviously lying through their teeth on the '06 campaign trail and have continued doing so even after seizing majority control of Congress. Historically dismal Congressional approval ratings confirm the American people are overwhelmingly not buying the partisan kool-aid being poured out by either side.

Thanks for the linkage, Mike!

It must be a tremendous strain, standing before a group of people and having to answer,
'I don't know', to every single question of the multitude of questions they ask.

So occasionally, the Press Corps should toss in a softie to Perino, just to ease the strain.

Like, 'Did your labia moisten when you watched the CIA's waterboarding tapes?'

And if she answers, 'I don't know, you'll have to ask the President about that', the possible follow-up questions should provide great theater..

Thanks, Mike.

re: Bush’s Unitary Law ends the Rule of Law, The Constitution, The Bill of Rights, and the Separation of Powers.

The Existentialist Cowboy page you linked has a lot of important info

and
Bavarian Illuminati Society, created May 1, 1776, just 3 months before July 4, 1776, and yes, ALL the revolutionaries were members!!

Confirmed Masons: James Otis (of " Taxation without representation is tyranny"), Samuel Adams, Edmund Burke, Joseph Warren, Paul Revere, John Hancock, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington ++

and, Marie-Joseph-Paul-Yves-Roch-Gilbert du Motier, aka the Marquis de Lafayette ...

1733 - In the United States, the first Masonic circles began to appear in 1733; by the time of the American Revolution, nearly 150 lodges existed throughout the colonies.