New Vote Vets Ad on John McCain: Can We Afford 1,000 Years?
By Nicole Belle Sunday Feb 24, 2008 2:30pm
VoteVets.org has a new ad out to confront John McCain's warmonger stance and question--in flesh and blood terms--exactly where his priorities lie. From their email:
The ad features, for the first time, a female Iraq veteran and her small child. Rose Forrest served 12 months in Iraq, and gave birth to her little son, when she came home. In the ad, Rose challenges John McCain to tell the truth about what endless war means for her child, and all of our children. Senator McCain needs to give us some straight talk about how much endless war in Iraq is going to cost. We don't have an endless pot of money, or an endless supply of troops and equipment.
So what are Americans going to have to sacrifice if he has his way on Iraq? Health care? Decent jobs? Border security that all those National Guardsmen in Iraq could be performing? Rescue and cleanup after disasters like Katrina and tornados in Kansas and Tennessee? Are we going to have to sacrifice our chance to cripple Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda in Afghanistan? We can't do it all, but John McCain seems to pretend that we can.
We're airing this ad in the hopes that Senator McCain finally gets honest with the American people. We're putting it out there so that the media and power-brokers start to ask the same questions. Endless war in Iraq means drastic sacrifices for Americans in their everyday lives, and in terms of our own security.
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VoteVets Rocks.
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I hope this is the first of MANY.
Put them in EVERY MARKET.
Whoa! Pretty effective, using a woman Iraq War veteran. However, a woman who might have been even more effective might be a female vet who LOST CUSTODY OF HER CHILD while serving in Iraq -- and only because of serving overseas. These types of vets are out there and also need to be heard from. Fast. VoteVets.org, I hope you read this.
Let the Swift-boating of Forrest begin . . .
These are the very questions the media should be asking McCain. Good for votevets for having the nerve to do what other's wouldn't.
Josh Romney, one of former Gov. Mitt Romney's five sons, says it's "possible" his father may rejoin the race for the White House, as a vice presidential candidate or as the Republican Party's standard-bearer if the campaign of Sen. John McCain falters.
The 60-year-old Romney, who "suspended" his campaign for the GOP nomination after a disappointing showing on Super Tuesday and a week later endorsed McCain, was taking a break from politics this weekend on a skiing vacation in Utah with his wife, Ann, according to his 32-year-old son.
The elder Romney, who was unable to assemble sufficient conservative support to thwart McCain, has made no public comment since the McCain camp was rocked ...
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/02/romneyback.html
Any truth to this I wonder.........hmmm
"So what are Americans going to have to sacrifice if he has his way on Iraq? Health care? Decent jobs? Border security that all those National Guardsmen in Iraq could be performing?"
We could send the Minutemen
Or their disappointed wives.
We need to straight talk his express right over the embankment.
Will Malkin be camping out at Rose's door now? Will BillO and Rush try to determine she isn't really a vet or that what she did wasn't really military work? You know it's coming.
Let the swiftboating of John McDouchebag begin! I hope VoteVets is considering one with some of the injured marines under his watch back in 1967 who were injured in either the USS Liberty or USS Forrestal accident. These 234 injured vets can tell us exactly what happened to the 168 marines killed under McCrazy's command. Somehow when people say "war hero", there mum about the fact that the blood of these marines is clearly on his hands for his horrendous lapse in judgment. Between Admiral McCain Sr. and Jr. they managed to keep this well under wraps.....and now we discover that St. John is not the hero or the patriot that he's been painted to be.
Keating Five was not an isolated corrupt McCain blunder; it was one of many as we've beginning to find out. Also, someone on one of the news programs yesterday (a woman) mentioned the $20,000 hush money paid by the RNC to Miss Vicki Iseman for her to take a long vacation during the campaign (in other words, get lost!). Interesting that her employer has taken down her bio from their site and it appears that she's not available for comment or subpoena. Is she still alive? I wonder...
In Bush's world, 1,000 years is little more than a comma.
pissed off patricia @ 9:
And what if that baby isn't really a baby?
I have to agree that McCain seems to be pro-war in just about every scenario. Remember his comments about "Bombing Iran"? Well, it's not just the course of action (bombing Iran) that is troubling, it's that he doesn't have the good sense to know how those words are used against our country. I wrote a quick article about that incident HERE.
My political blog
Things may be about to get rougher for McCain. From Think Progress: "The Los Angeles Times is reporting that “Josh Romney, one of former Gov. Mitt Romney’s five sons, says it’s ‘possible’ his father may rejoin the race for the White House.”
Remember, Mittens only suspended his campaign.
POW! Right in the kisser! Take THAT MCStain!
Forever War(tm).
Dale @ 12:
What if Rose is not the biological mother of the child? There is no telling how low they will go on this.
"Things may be about to get rougher for McCain. From Think Progress: “The Los Angeles Times is reporting that “Josh Romney, one of former Gov. Mitt Romney’s five sons, says it’s ‘possible’ his father may rejoin the race for the White House.”
Remember, Mittens only suspended his campaign."
LOL..."Daddy, daddy...pulleeeeease reenter the race...otherwise...I might have to go fight!"
ysbadadden @ 7
You're on FIRE today my friend!
Thinking people with a progressive world-view may not like him, but he is a McWarprofiteerHero...
#318 ;-}
Sunday’s C&Ler’s contributions to the McNames McList (then current total 307):
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The entire (211 as of Friday 12:01am pst) McName List:
pissed off patricia @ 17:
I did notice she is not wearing a flag pin on her sweater.
liberalNmoderation @ 19:
every day, lol ;-}
But But But Bush is saving iraq muslims
isnt he
but but pat robertson said we cant TRUST THOSE MUSLIMS
we need to SPY ansd WIRE TAPP
but but but torture them too\
but but but SAVE IRAQ
but but but
18 Liberal AND Proud
That's ok. If McHillary can't make it, I'm sure the Clinton machine would suit the status quo just fine.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/24/14518/2213/544/463202
Anais @ 4:
From my marketing background... I would say use as many female Iraq War veterans as they can. Use the wives and families, of the men who died over there about what 1,000 years of war will do. The use of families will provide a great impact, especially on the independent voters and those Conservatives that put family first ahead of party.
MICFriend?
Why not? Israel is now rallying around the world, trying to get the U.S. to attack Iran on its behalf. If we can help Israel with Iraq, why not send another 5000 troops to die in Iran along with 50 billion dollars worth of U.S. taxpayer dollars? After all, Israel is a good investment, just look at the reason why so many in the M.E. hate America [/snark].
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jDua2A4cI_4p9W-qDvilU_GFmCGg
pissed off patricia,
Things may be about to get rougher for McCain. From Think Progress: “The Los Angeles Times is reporting that “Josh Romney, one of former Gov. Mitt Romney’s five sons, says it’s ‘possible’ his father may rejoin the race for the White House.”
Remember, Mittens only suspended his campaign.
When the Times did there deed last week on McBush I could see this coming about.
Blue Lensman @ 25:
Almost missed it, lol. #319, thanks! ;}
Edwards only suspended his campaign. Different story on the Democratic side, though.
Beetlejuice says, "McMymillenium!"
So what will the right wing come back with? Families who have lost loved ones in Iraq asking that their loved ones did not die in vain. People who have lost limbs and have horrible injuries asking that they did not loose their abilities in vain. I'm guessing it'll happen. We saw ads like this before, didn't we?
correction
.....asking that they did not lose their abilities in vain.
Does anyone have the quote where he said 1,000 years. I saw the 100 year quote, but did he really say 1,000?
Well, that's that - she's SO swiftboated...
Michael @ 32:
"Asked about the remark later by Mother Jones’ David Corn, McCain reaffirmed it, “excitedly declaring that U.S. troops could be in Iraq for ‘a thousand years’ or ‘a million years,’ as far as he was concerned.”
Think Progress
Scroll down below the video to see this quote.
Re: Mothers and female soldiers in these ads, and the questions regarding their children, and the female soldiers who have lost custody over service length...
Seriously, does anyone really believe that the fate of this woman's child will really sway a Republican voter? Remember this scenario, it's pretty accurate as far as I'm concerned:
Small Child: Why, why is mommy gone? Why does she have to go back to Iraq? What happens to me?
Republican: Kid, I'm a Republican and you're not in the womb. You're on your own.
The right wing will simply say that the vast majority of military personal want to stay in Iraq until the job is done no matter how long it takes. They dare not take on what the job is and what done looks like. They will call it a war even though the was has been over sense W stood on that flight deck and declared victory. It is an occupation and occupations cant be won they can only be ended.
pissed off patricia @ 30:
War is not the macho sporting event that makes all the carnage that comes with it somehow ok if your side wins. Show it for what it is. Show dead and maimed soldiers, men, women and children and ask if this should go on so that fat, war profiteering chickenhawks can say, "We won! It was all worth it!" in 20/100/1000 years.
What's an order of magnitude or two amongst friends?
The dark cloud of cognitive dissonance hangs heavy over the U.S. Homeland in this War on Terror! What happened to the hunt for the Nine Eleven Conspirator Osama Bin Laden, and Al Qaeda in Pakistan? Iraq had nothing to do with Nine Eleven, our former ally Saddam was secular and enemies with Al Qaeda. What happened to the hunt for the US Military Grade Anthrax Terrorist? War on Terror? Terror is the use of fear or violence for politcal gain. That would make most of the US Mlitary/Government/Media uh Terrorists. John McCain should step down and resign. The US Military is broken, the US Treasury is looted. The military industrial complex isn't making us safer, it is making them richer. Borrowing hundreds of Billions of Dollars "TO PAY" for Tax Cuts, Aid to Israel, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, regards...
Easy Solution to this Whole Mess:
Step 1: Utilizing the Patriot Act, arrest (kidnap) all the political, economic, social and religious conservatives in the United States without warrants and ship them all over to the Middle East with lots of guns.
Step 2: Let the gun-hoarding, women-hating, bible-humping American conservatives and the gun-hoarding, women-hating, koran-humping Muslim conservatives kill each other.
Step 3: Drop a nuke on the winners.
Thanks for the quote.
IMO they should have stuck with the 100 year quote as they have a video of that. Now McCain can say he was misquoted or taken out of context. Then the ad can be discredited and ignored. That'll be their first attack.
Also Rose Forrest then could have said that she didn't want her son's great grand daughter fighting in the same war as she did.
11 Dale Says: In Bush’s world, 1,000 years is little more than a comma. We need to stop the Straight "Tank" Express now before more are killed for Shrub's "comma".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLYWh2f6xE0
22 Proud2bHumble Says: liberalNmoderation @ 19:
ysbadadden @ 7
You’re on FIRE today my friend!
every day, lol ;-}
Not advisable to say to a practicing Witch.
Why is it that one practices a religion, but never gets proficient in them?
They say the soldiers want to stay and get the job done. Okay, let's give them individual choices. Tell them if they want to come home now, they can. We'll see how many opt to stay.
Virtually all westerners would admit that the crusades were idiotic. And this one is no different.
Liberal Traitor @ 35:
I'm sure we can find pics of dead pregnant Iraqi women for them. Oh, wait...brown people don't count. Never mind.
Way to stick it to grampa!
Can we afford 1,000 years?
Estimated Cost of Iraq War if it ended today (includes health care for vets etc):
1 Trillion Dollars
Length of Iraq War thus far:
5 years
Comes out to approximately 200 billion dollars per year (give or take a few billion...).
Cost of 1,000 more years of this shit by this logic (which is by no means scientific of course): 200 Trillion more dollars.
So, when the Iraq "war" ends, by McCain's estimate, the United States will have spent 201 Trillion Dollars. Of course all this is moot since we're borrowing it all from China and long before the 1,000 years is up the bill WILL come due in one form or another...
4000 American Dead in 5 years...=approximately 800 dead per year. So, when the Iraq "war" ends by McCain's estimate, the United States will have 804,000 war dead, assuming the trend remains constant.
I'd do her.
But would she do me?
Preferably without the Army training.
"49 ysbaddaden Says: I’d do her.
But would she do me?
Preferably without the Army training."
No joke, you are a sick fuck.
And now, the Republican response:
(The scene opens in a elementary school classroom where a group of 2nd graders are reciting the Pledge of Allegiance with their hands on their hearts. Cut to close up of American flag hanging at the front of the classroom)
(Cut to close up of conservative-looking school teacher announcing that today is Bring Your Parent to School Day.)
"Joey," the teacher says, "You can go first."
(Then begins a steady flow of children telling what their parent does for a living)
"My mother is a nurse....."
"My daddy is a lawyer...."
"My mommy is a chef...."
"My daddy is a construction worker...."
(Then cut to a close up of little Billy, who is looking down and sad.)
"Billy?" says the teacher, "Where is your parent?"
(Billy stands, looks at the flag at the front of the room, then begins..)
"My daddy is a captain in the army. He is in Iraq, fighting terrorists and protecting the freedoms of America. He has been there a long time and I miss him. But I feel safer knowing he and other brave soldiers like him are there, fighting the bad guys. I'm proud of my daddy."
(Cut to shot of the teacher giving Billy a hug and everyone, children and their parents, standing and clapping for Billy.)
Fade out with a John McCain in 2008 logo.
McPTSD
Your kid's carbon footprint is offset by my gayness lady!
New Vote Vets Ad on John McCain: Can We Afford 1,000 Years?
Sounds Biblically Millennial.
Wasn't the Auntie-Christ supposed to rule for a thousand years?
Uncle-Christ is at the nudie bar pushing dollar bills into stripper's thongs.
50 Liberal Traitor Says: “49 ysbaddaden Says: I’d do her.
But would she do me?
Preferably without the Army training.”
No joke, you are a sick fuck.
Thank you, I'm sure.
The question remains, is she into sick f**ks?
ysbaddaden @ 43:
xcept for the Proficientologists...
56 Proud2bHumble Says: ysbaddaden @ 43:
22 Proud2bHumble Says: liberalNmoderation @ 19:
ysbadadden @ 7
You’re on FIRE today my friend!
every day, lol ;-}
Not advisable to say to a practicing Witch.
Why is it that one practices a religion, but never gets proficient in them?
xcept for the Proficientologists…
The Methodists?
They're into the Rhythm Method
But we all know whites have no rhythm.
this is giving the nutters fits over on the righty blogs! :)
Dr. Acula @ 52:
#321, from the McProlific Impaler, M.D., Ph.d ;-}
ysbaddaden @ 57:
But they're excellent actors, 'cause they "Be the role".
58 soothsayer Says: this is giving the nutters fits over on the righty blogs! :)
Forsooth, I like playing with my nuts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TA3c1YqCiI
soothsayer @ 58:
Ya know how dey luvs dem a lil incestuatin.
ysbaddaden @ 61:
What? Only for sooth?
BTW, How does Almond Joy have nuts and Mounds don't when both are made primarily of coconut?
ysbaddaden @ 61:
Wow, that looked yummy...I wouldn't mind eating your flying nuts at the moment. LOL
;-}
Proud2bHumble @ 62:
Oops, my lysdexia kicked in again...I thought you said the righty's were nuttin all over their blogs, as usual.
64 Proud2bHumble Says
Wow, that looked yummy…I wouldn’t mind eating your flying nuts at the moment. LOL
;-}
I do requests
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOoixnNEFQE
Every so often Rose Forrest should toss out a fish
I'm sure the stalkin' (grim)malkin is already staked out behind her bushes and gettin' hungry.
ysbaddaden @ 66:
I didn't recognize the dude riding the horsey, but I'm pretty sure the behind him is a young McReacharound.
ysbaddaden @ 67:
She should really join the 21st century and shave that thing.
@68 the behind him - I'd fix it if I was anal, but I'm not so I won't.
Fun hangin' witchoo yousbad...gotta go.....will check back.
;-}
ysbaddaden @ 7:
They don't really have much left, what they haven't given up in fear they have had stolen from them, most have even sold the future of what is left of their country for credit ........ so I'd say not a lot of sacrifice, apart from hope and a way out of the quagmire that is the current situation that americon is.
A great ad! Thanks, VVs!
Thank you and good luck Rose and son , thank you votevets .
I think tracers just hit johnny's rudder , just a few more and he will be at ground zero or in the drink .
Oh poop. Does this mean that the Republicans are not supporting the troops anymore?
Thank you for the self serving question Mike, the answer is a trick one. It is no.
They are not, not supporting the troops any more. They never were in the first place.
To support the troops start the draft to relieve the the troops of the never ending round robin tours of duty. Then listen to the American people scream, "Stop the war!" when it is everyone's kids getting killed or injured.
This war was so wrong the only way to sell it was as a "no harm us war". It didn't cost us anything and didn't come into our homes to take our children away.
At least for the first five years huh?
Gotta go now too, my anti-depressants are making my eyes go cock-eyed,
And not in a good way either.
namaste @ 11:
People are wondering what happen to that American female author who wrote that recent book on GWB and vanished without a trace in november 07
Post American @ 42:
Look at this video interview excerpt between ex-president Benazir Bhutto and Sir David Frost that was aired november 2nd 2007, he doesnt bat an eyelid when she claims OBL was murdered by Omar Sheik (killer of Daniel Pearl) way back in 01/02.
Concerning the bio terror killers, ask why Faux was not targeted, and certain people were taking Cipro before October 2001.
Could explain why OBL has never been found alive or dead.
PS; line 4 should be line 3
56 bilhelm-X Says: Your kid’s carbon footprint is offset by my gayness lady!
Oh well, I thought it was funny.
OK spin it!:
She's a successful veteran who managed to have a baby AND serve her country. We can fight the war on terror AND live our lives happily!
I'm John McCain and I approved of this lie.
[Deleted. Quit spamming threads with the same message and quit posting in ALL CAPS-Sitemonitor]
You tell em sista.
85 Big Dick Cheney Says: STOP THE GOP WITH THESE….. THE MISSING LINK…..
The GOP's not into missing links
Sounds too evilutionarstic.
Michael @ 35:
That's the question! I heard "100 years", where does "1000 years" come from? WTF?! Are we whining too much to get the message across?
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