The Abrams Report: Bush League Justice on Siegelman
By Nicole Belle Monday Feb 25, 2008 11:02am
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All the publicity that the Don Siegelman case has brought in the last couple of days has made the rats in the Alabama Republican party scurrying to find the safety of darkness again. Led by chief rat Karl Rove, the modus operandi is to deny, deny, deny. The only problem? You have 52 Attorneys General, Republican and Democrat alike, who say that this case just doesn't pass the smell test.
The case rests on the testimony of Dana Jill Simpson who has come forward to say that Karl Rove asked her to dig up compromising sexual photographs of Siegelman. Classy guy, that Turdblossom. Besides denying that they know Simpson (which as she points out in the clip is a simple matter of explaining away phone records), things took a decidedly more sinister tone, as Larisa Alexandrovna documents:
As 60 Minutes was putting its show together, the White House put pressure on CBS -- the parent company -- to kill the show. Over the last few days, as word got out that the 60 Minutes show would air tonight, Karl Rove's associates began planting defamatory stories about journalists working on this story (see example here) and attacking the whistle-blower who came forward, Dana Jill Simpson. If you recall, Ms. Simpson testified, under oath, to Congress about Karl Rove's involvement in politicizing the DOJ. What you may not know, however, is that her house mysteriously caught fire and she was run off the road in the weeks leading up to her testimony.
What you may also not know is that Governor Siegelman's house was broken into twice during his trial as was his attorney's office.
Yesterday, the attacks on Simpson and journalists increased with a series of emails from the Alabama GOP. See Here.
I'm not trying to be overly dramatic, but as the layers get pulled away in this case, I'm having a harder and harder time believing that this is America and not some third world dictatorship.
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"...this is America and not some third world dictatorship."
Can't it be both?
"I’m not trying to be overly dramatic, but as the layers get pulled away in this case, I’m having a harder and harder time believing that this is America and not some third world dictatorship. "
Ummm...helloooooo!? I've been saying this for years! This IS some third world dictatorship!
"Forget it, Nicole. It's Alabamatown."
Geraldo @ 2:
FEMA, Katrina and New Orleans today - Third World
Justice Department under Bush, Cheney and Rove - Dictatorship
There are still people who say that breaking into Watergate was the right, patriotic thing to do. It's sadly unsurprising to see the criminal tactics of witness harassment coming from the GOP.
"Silkwood" anybody?
I believe we should be over dramatic. The bells should be ringing in the churches and town squares. The citizens of America should be made to come out of hiding and see what is going on.
I remember watching the movie (name?) about the right trying to get the "Clinton's" and thinking how frightening that was. I fear for Obama, I truly do. I am not being overly dramatic I am being realistic. Our country has gone to hell in the hands of "America terrorists" and I am scared.
Not to worry Geraldo, Bush has been on the job for the past 7 years and has made tremendous strides in making us a third world country on the economic front. To be honest though his attempts at making it a dictatorship having been lacking. While he has managed to chip away at separation of church and state and our civil rights he has made no definitive movement toward a true unitary executive and suspending elections and such. However there is still time to fabricate an excuse based on fearmongering. Don't give up hope!
As Thom Hartman characterized this morning on his early show: "This may be the 'duct tape on the door that unravels' the whole thing." In reference to the Bush Administration, the politicization of the Justice Department and the reason not why those seven attorneys were fired, but why the rest were allowed to keep their job.
He just may be right.
What did Bush say (ominously) several years ago, and allegedly jokingly...something like 'he'd be fine with a dictatorship, as long as he's in charge', and then he laughed with his shoulders moving (like he always does). I'm paraphrasing of course, but with this Siegelman case it's not much of a stretch to see that idea in action.
as long as we can shine the light into the dark recess of the republic, and get them to scurry like the roaches they are, we ain't no dictatorship yet.
We are corporate facsists, but not dictators yet..
we the people are awakeing
unless Bush is stopped (impeached), just before his term ends he will pardon everybody he can think of...even if they allegedly didn't do anything wrong, but he'll just be covering his ass with the pardons. no one will be surprised by this but it will an astonishing miscarriage of justice. well he won't be able to pardon himself.
duncanidho @ 12:
Bingo! Well said. It ain't over yet... not by a long shot.
The new head of the republican party:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.joemantegna.com/TONY.G...
I beg everyone to read the RawStory articles on this. This is by far the biggest story of them all. 60 Minutes doesn't even touch on the election that was stolen in the night from Siegelman, just how involved the "my girls are on it" is in the prosecution, etc. These are long but well worth it. This isn't the first time RawStory has lead the way on some of the biggest headlines, and lets hope it won't be the last.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/The_Permanent_Republican_Majority_1125.html
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/The_permanent_Republican_majority_Daughter...
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/The_Permanent_Republican_Majority_Part_III...
Sven @ 6:
There are still people in America (and elsewhere for that matter) who believe Hitler was on the right genocidal track. Hell, the Bush family are some of them! Hello Prescott!!
P.S. I read somewhere that there is a great-grandkid Bush named Prescott. Jiminy creepers, talk about demon spawn!
Corruption in high places!
No, this isn't the land of the FREE and the Home of the BRAVE.
If it were, Karl Rove would be in Gitmo, and Shrubya never gets the Oval Office.
This isn't America; it's George Orwell's "1984", complete with NewSpeak, and Don Siegelman as Winston Smith.
Com'on this stuff only happens in movies, right, right? Jesus Crackers, Lord help us.
Guys, guys, what we're forgetting is that Don Siegelman is a terrorist....
This is enough to make someone physically ill. The Republicans are obviously enamored of the ends justify the means, the ends being Republican Domination of American politics, and the means being any legal, extralegal or illegal tactic or strategy in the book. Not content to simply smear, now they smear with the enforcement of the law not far behind. If you are not a Republican you should very afraid of this administration. If you are Nnot a democrat you should be very afraid of the precident they are setting with this kind of behavior.
What most surprises me is that CBS didn't go belly up and kill the story.
Karl Rove needs to suffer the same treatment he unleashed on Dana Simpson. He may not have issued direct orders, but his hand was involved even as he kept his distance and maintained his "plausible deniability."
He's the most despicable person in an army of despicable people. What is it you call someone who uses violence and threats of violence as a means of achieving political ends -- a terrorist, yes?
Very Russian.... no wonder Bush looked into the eyes of Putin and liked what he saw..... what is next assassinating your politcal opponents...?
Somebody tricked Rove into holding a "Free Don Siegelman" banner. No shit.
Well if they would try to kill this woman I seriously suggest that Obama double his security detail.
Nicole the fact that you still think it isn't a dictatorship is surprising. What's missing that has kept you in doubt until now?
I blame internets.
Back in the day, a story of political scandal like this (e.g., Watergate, the Pentagon Papers, etc) being reported by "the media" was enough to bring people down, because people actually had a sense of SHAME.
No longer. None of the bastards are ever ashamed, because there are enough liars on all sides to refute whatever truths are found to be inconvenient.
The Bush Junta and the entire GOP is nothing more than an organization of brown-shirted thugs. Nobody should be surprised that this happened; it's the way they roll. The persecution of Seigelman is a perfect microcosm for the tyranny that is the Bush junta and the GOP's plan for America.
Fox News has absolutely NO CREDIBILITY LEFT.
They are employing criminals.
Just why did Fox News owner Rupert Murdoch hold a political fund raiser for Clinton in New York?
Is Bush chief adviser criminal Rove advising Clinton?
And What is this???....
"Both Qatar and the UAE would likely sever their links to the U.S. dollar this year and track currency baskets as Kuwait did last May, Deutsche Bank said last month."?????????????????????
What is bubble maker Greenspan up to NOW?
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=greenspan+gulf+states++dollar&um=1&i...
THIS CASE IS AN ONION!
Peel back layer after layer and cry all the way through.
Welcome to El Salvador Norte'
Is it just me or does Dana Jill Simpson look like "Krispy Kreme" from Erin Brockovich?
This may be America, but the neocons who have been running it for the last twenty years are third world thugs. The Bush crime family makes the mafia look like the Little Rascals.
This can happen to you too.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/The_Permanent_Republican_Majority_1125.html
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/timeline_don_siegelman_1126.htm
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/The_permanent_Republican_majority_Daughter...
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/The_Permanent_Republican_Majority_Part_III...
I have read so much about Bush,Cheney,Rove,and their massively corrupt minion of thugs and stooges getting away with literal murder by lying us into a war that lines the pockets of these minions.I am aghast at the evil that this administration has produced in the seven awful years they have been in power.But as my friend Frank Zappa said on his 1988 tour,"Someday,all those cocksuckers will get caught."
I`m waitin` with a smile,Frankie.
This story is YEARS old and Siegelman is STILL in jail ...
So why is 60Mins, et all just now starting to wake up ?
THAT's the real scary part.
I just hope siegelman can go after everyone involved civilly and take them for everything they got. Especially the judge and turdblossom.
If the trial and conviction of Don Siegelman was unjust it is not a political issue but a legal issue. Siegelman had his day in court. He was represented by the best legal team money can buy. After all the evidence was presented in open court, a jury of his peers found him guilty. Siegelman was granted his constitutional right of due process. If Siegelman is convinced he was wrongly convicted he still enjoys the legal right to petition a higher court to overturn the verdict. The overwrought hand-wringing of the mainstream media is much ado about nothing.
This is all just one big conspiracy theory right down to the house burning. Same as the anthrax and the same as 9/11. These corrupt crooks would NEVER stoop this low. Well, that's what I keep getting told. Been told conspiracy theorists are nutsos regardless of how much evidence there is..............this crap has been going on since before Clinton left the WhiteHouse and everybody has been ignoring it until the last couple years.
People need to go to prison over this! No pardons or commutung the sentence! And I'm talking about the guilty parties not some patsies! And I'm talking REAL prison not some country club for rich elites!
Bush/GOP economy taking hold. Shit hitting the fan http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080226/ap_on_bi_ge/economy_rdp
abob @ 39:
Yeah, nothing like having your day in a corrupt court.
Susie @ 8:
They want you to be scared. Instead, get mad.
And they're still trying to sell the idea that they need a FISA bill to spy on people.
Abob,
You obviously did not watch the piece on 60 minutes. There was no justice served here as a matter of fact it was a travesty served as a vendetta. Evidence was with held as was testimony and how they got the testimony from a convict who was coached for days on his testimony. It is total BS and Siegelman has not had his day in court but when he does he will take it out on all involved when and if Obama gets elected.
No W Now @ 16:
exactly.....votes "found" in the middle of the night
its never the votes...its the counters
abob @ 39:
He should have had 45 days to file his appeal. Instead they put him in shackles and hauled him off to prison. He is not even able to speak to reporters. Do your reseach before you run your mouth.
Chico @ 37:
They only got a sixty minute attention span.
Lookin gooood.....
Peter G @ 45:
Not a FISA bill, but a bill that allows them (whoever that may be) to circumvent regular avenues of wiretapping and just spy without a warrant. FISA requires a warrant. Even up to 72 hours after the fact... Bush and Co. just don't want a paper trail as to what they're really doing.
And people don't believe the Stasi is here??
abob @ 39:
It's both, troll. It's a case of political hitmen taking advantage of a corrupt legal system to destroy an opponent.
Go back under your bridge.
My problem with this is 2-fold.....
Shouldn't the White House be just a bit too busy , what with clusterfucks in both Iraq and Afghanistan (which they are to blame for) , and the economy slowly crumbling (again , which they precipitated) , the biggest deficit/debt in US administration (again , Chimpy administration , take a bow) , housing foreclosures at record number , the cost of living , etc. etc. etc. , to be involving itself in the airing of a segment on TV ?
That being said , what's the big deal if this whole story is a "fabrication" , as Chimpy and Co claim ?
Let me see if I understand this correctly: The Rove whistleblower's house caught fire, her car was run off the road, Siegelman's house was broken into as was his lawyer's office? Gosh, if we had a Justice Department or a Federal Law Enforcement Entity, this is probably something they should be checking into....nah.
MCMetal @ 53:
That's the problem... apparently they're too busy to worry about their image and their place in history actually give a damn about the average American citizen.
Bushco...the Sopranos with better suits.
This is not a third-world dictatorship. This is a first-class dictatorship.
abob @ 39:
How have you managed to live this long , being this willfully ignorant and stupid ?
The young turks weighed in also.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yG5sJHFtSIk
MCMetal @ 58:
Free room and board in Mommy's basement.
The CIA has been killing political opponents in over 60 different countries, how many more years is this nightmare going to continue.
Back in the good old days of the Clinton impeachment, republicans were fond of saying, "Where there's smoke, there's fire." Of course, back then, they also talked a lot about the RULE OF LAW. Alas, no more.
Rove is such a P O S, I really want to see him go down in flames in a very public way
They have the wrong guy in jail.
The guys who orchestrated this should be in jail.
abob @ 39:
We have a thing in this country called an Independent Judiciary. If the White House is ordering the Justice Department to go dig up dirt on political enemies then the White House has clearly violated the Seperation of Powers. Alexander Hamilton described an Executive Branch controlling the Judicial Branch as a form of Tyranny. You should go back and read the Federalist Papers. I would recommend you start with number 78.
Aaron @ 63:
I want him to be shipped Darfur to help with the relief effort.
A fat white guy sweating in Africa... that'll make for good TV.
I'm a believer in karma and one day Karl Rove will receive his day! Just wait.
Phillip @ 25:
Already happened - or close to it. Remember the anthrax attacks? It killed several people, and was sent directly to 2 Democratic senators.
Tom Daschle, once the Senate majority leader, many of whose staff were infected, has now left politics.
Nobody talks about anthrax anymore.
I hope that abob figured out how stupid his comments are and goes away.
Nicole, I always learn from your posts. Thanks. But when you say at the end of the Simpson/60 minutes post that you're "having a harder and harder time believing that this is America and not some third-world country, sadly, you've missed the bus. Make no mistake - there was a coup in this country in the year 2000. Not a wacky election, not Al Gore's nobility in not pursuing his rightful place, or whatever other reasons we've come up with to justify and rationalize the Bush ascendancy. It was a coup. If we were a Latin American country the world would have seen it for what it was. There were no tanks on streetcorners but it was a coup nonetheless. I realize for political discourse in this country that precludes using words such as these because then you're branded as completely radical and not worthy of discussion with the likes of Pat Buchanan (the apologist for Bitburg), Bill Kristol (poor writer, lack of ideas, and always, always wrong), and their ilk - the right wing phony intellectual brigade. To make matters worse, the coup of 2000 was then followed by the creeping fascism of the next 8 years as, once again, without tanks on streetcorners, most Americans just can't be bothered with thinking their government is rarely, if ever, acting in the interests of the common good. I remain hopeful in 2008 but I also remember 1968. Imagine how different this country, and the world, would have been with eight years of Bobby Kennedy and the Vietnam war ending in 1969!!! Thanks for listening.
The nutcases like abob will be in full shrill by summertime...and then it will get dangerous.
The despicable malcontents that make up the lunatic majority of the GOP will grow more and more desperate with each passing day. They are beside themselves with terror at the thought of not only liberals being in control of the country once again...but of...OH HORRORS...the world is coming to an end...all that they believed in falling apart...please good lord don't let it be true...A BLACK MAN in the White House!!!
To wake up in the morning and after all the right wing pundit talk for the last 7 years about honoring the Presidency...now having to pay homage to A BLACK MAN holding the most powerful office on the planet...wel...is more than their tiny closed minds can contain.
What is next?!?! Oh myyy...they may find out that their neighbor is a..a...a...HOMOSEXUAL...and my lord...he's NOT a pedophile...but the...no...no...noooo...it can't BEEEE...the football coach IS?!?! Nooo....ohhhmyyyygodddd....
Yes...the panic is setting in....but I say to my right wing friends...be not afraid..embrace the horror...for we will show you the type of mercy that your kind only TALK about at church...but that we practice every day.
Geraldo @ 2:
Agreed. Anyone who doesn't think this is business as usual just look up these names:
Paul Wilcher
INSLAW, Inc.
Danny Casolaro
Anson Ng
Dennis Eisman
Ian Spiro
Bill McCoy
Just to name one moment in recent U.S. History.
why didn't we hear about this while it was happening? why are we hearing about this only after he has been sentenced and is serving SEVEN FUCKING YEARS?
wxgeek @ 68:
Just as his mentor, Lee Atwater, did.
I love the expose from Abrams, but as I commented on another site along with several others, it serves no purpose to ask Mukasey to appoint a special prosecutor. Sure, Mukasey will get even more egg on his face if confronted with this, but the best thing to do is to sit it out patiently until January 2009 when we have a new Democratic president and AG who can exonerate Siegelman and start prosecuting the miscarriage of justice starting with Karl Rove. Until then, nothing substantive will happen. If Mukasey will not appoint a special prosecutor for the CIA torture tapes, do you think he will do so in the Siegelman case? And even if he did, do you expect someone appointed by Mukasey and Bush to really go after justice in this case? It would be Fitzmas all over: containment and cover-up. I'm tired of sound and fury and am waiting for 2009 when real things can and will happen.
Jeff @ 73:
Oh, sweet Jesus...this is so frightening. Thanks, C&L, for putting this case front and center for the last few days. I'm finally paying attention...
Jeff @ 73:
Uhh! Could it be that we don't have a left wing media? The Right controls the media.
No , I will not and do not.
I reserve my compassion and mercy for those who truly deserve it ; the homeless , an abused woman or child , an orphan , sick children , the elderly .
I'd like to slap each and every moron that has done nothing but praise and apologize for the retarded douchebag and his band of corrupt and equally imbecilic minions that have stained our country and our reputation................
I think that when we look back at this in 20 or 40 years, this period of time will be seen as a very blatant attempt at a corporate coup. At this point, I think we need to pay VERY close attention to the general election in 2008, and I will be paying VERY close attention to this story as it unfolds.
The revolution has begun.
myiq2xu @ 33:
LOL, but what I liked was when she said she had phone records to prove her participation in the Republican Party. Krispy Kreme, I don't know, but one sharp cookie.
We're slowly finding out the truth no matter how hard tehy try to keep it from us.
I don't see how anyone could possibly be overdramatic with these issues. What I don't understand is how, there can be no massive public outcry that several; treasonous traitors are actually ON T.V. day after day!
The power point slides shown to over 50 agencies, naw, no politicizing Government! Outing C.I.A. operatives, beautiful professional, intelligent US spy like you see in the Movies at that, no issue.
Now their all on TV! WTF!
Jason B @ 79:
I'm to old to look back at this in 20 or 40 years. Can't we look at it as it is "NOW?"
"If we were a Latin American country the world would have seen it for what it was."
Newsflash : A lot of the world DID see it for what it was.
"why didn’t we hear about this while it was happening?"
Newsflash : This was reported, on what passed for the web/alternate news sources back in the day.
The web has changed a LOT in the last 7 years, and a LOT more people are now getting their news from it.
This is a good thing.
America IS a third world dictatorship.
Not so much a 3rd-world dictatorship as a mafia-like criminal cartel full of crooks, cheaters, liars and bullies. Learning of the life-threatening events surrounding Dana Jill Simpson are certainly chilling.
Looks like CBS did manage to cave in slightly by scheduling the episode opposite the Oscars. Of course none of the big networks had any balls to take on this administration until Bush was obviously a lame duck.
Jeff @ 73:
Because that is the whole point, DOJ Politicization would not allow the truth to come out!
Jason B @ 79:
Historians love it when the train derails. All the contents get spilled out. I think the Bush years will be put into the failed fascist catagory along side Mousolini and Hitler.
The more I learn about Karl Rove, the more I think that his role model was J. Edgar Hoover... I bet Rove has dirt on hundreds of people, friends and enemies alike.
Anonymous @ 76:
You're just NOW paying attention? Good fucking grief.
lordkoos @ 90:
It does explain why Bush has not been impeached. I wonder how many Congressmen and Senators have taken bribes from oil companies? That is why so many in Congress have been as quiet as church mice.
lordkoos @ 87:
Technically I guess we'd be considered a cryparchy, oligarchy, or plutarchy. I also seem to remember another term for a 'rule by criminals or thugs' but I can't seem to find the term.
Nicole, I was born and raised in southeast Alabama. My mother (born 1911) used to tell me stories about Phenix City, a stronghold for Al Capone. All this garbage has made me remember those stories.
E in Md @ 93:
Lindy @ 95:
I like to think of it as a Sceme-ocracy.
Stupid Git @ 72:
Thank you. Very interesting...
E in Md @ 91:
Good archives at Left in Alabama. Just do a search on Siegelman. Another good source is Scott Horton's No Comment at Harper's site. I think he's written about 41 articles about this mess. That link takes you to a summary page with links to all of them.
These people are willing to kill to keep the truth from coming out.
As much as loath to hear about Turdblossom it is better to hear of this Rovain crime than to hear him spout his blossoms on Faux News. You should have remained an historical icon of the neocons, Karl, for now it would appear that you are, once again, doing damage to your "party" and to your country, you evil rat bastard!
lordkoos @ 90:
I compare rove more to Donald Segretti, one of the nastiest rats Nixon employed.
If you recall, Ms. Simpson testified, under oath, to Congress about Karl Rove’s involvement in politicizing the DOJ.
You may also recall that Karl Rove has a panic attack any time someone asks him to testify under oath. About ANYTHING.
Left in Alabama also does a pretty good 50-state roundup.
This is an good case to use the RICO act against the republicans.
Start rounding them up.
The day that will live in infamy is the day the Supreme Court anointed george w. bush president. The United States of American ceased to be at that moment.
lordkoos @ 90:
I lean more to Donald Segretti, one of the nastiest rats Nixon employed.
I would remove the focus from Dana Jill Simpson and re-focus on the provable facts of the case.
Where is the transcript of the trial?
Why has it been withheld?
Who is withholding it?
Why is Don Seigelman being blocked from communicating with reporters?
What is the trial judge's history with Seigelman, and why didn't he recuse himself?
What are the trial judge's ties to the Republican party?
Why did the trial judge have Seigelman removed from the courthouse in full wrist and ankle manacles?
How many times exactly did the chief witness meet with prosecutors?
Why wasn't the defense made aware of these multiple meetings?
Lots of interesting questions. Can't wait for some answers.
abob @ 39:
Oh, sure! Simple matter. Except his lawyers want to appeal, but they have to get a transcript of the trial first, and that, somehow, mysteriously, has never been "finished" since the trial. So, no appeal possible. Great trick, huh?
jimbo92107 @ 108:
Here's one...sort of. The delay in production of the transcript is attributed, in part, to the death of the court recorder, Jimmy Dickens. The new recorder has asked for and received an extension of at least two months from mid-January.
myiq2xu @ 33:
She might be that, but she has MORE BALLS than all of us in here posting comments.
KUDOS to her
The Alabama GOP and Rove are really getting into banana republic territory here. Could we have gotten to the point that someone's in jail for having the wrong political beliefs?
I hope the next administration and congress throws the book at these bastards.
gop = FASCISTS
just a bunch of trailer trash bastards
Right on! Free Don Siegelman and imprison KKKarl Rove immediately, if not sooner!
Ruthless People @ 42:
Yes but , but the fundamentals of the economy are sound
I love it! Every day a new scandal breaks. Every day the ills of the past are brought out anew for all to see. Every day we get outraged. For what? Where are the Democrats? They're cowering in corners waiting for their turn to take the reins--waiting for us to vote out the Republicans, and then they'll come out of the dark shadows with all kinds of fanfare, touting their bravery. Where is Pelosi? Where is Reid? Where is their list of promises with items like "Get out of Iraq"? The only promise they are keeping is "taking impeachment off the table". They got their control positions in both houses, promised not to hold the administration responsible for their crimes against the US, and then proceeded to give Bush EVERYTHING he ever asks for. To me, they seem to be traitors, but if I say that these same people would come out and label me as a fringe left-wing liberal. But the FUNNY thing is that I am actually an independent in the MIDDLE who used to be a Republican, but won't join the party of pathetic inaction. Anyway, I guess my point is that you should curb your enthusiasm...Republicans are pure evil, but the Democrats are perfectly worthless.
RichStraightWhiteAmericanMale @ 7:
Diallo?
Louima?
wellstone?
congress and the senate? - anthrax
What the fuck is this, a John Grisham novel??
How nice to see the so called liberal left waking up to the fact that the crooks that are running your country are capable of all sorts of crimes including the one that you' re all afraid to speak of. You remember that nasty NYC incident
60 Minutes made a valiant attempt to blow smoke up the ass of the viewing audience. CBS painted Siegelman as a sanctified martyr crucified on a political cross constructed by Karl Rove. The newspapers of Alabama know Siegelman better than anybody. They documented Sielgelman's long history of corruption during his administration as Alabama governor. Read & Weep:
http://thetruthaboutdon.com/
Abob,
That is clearly a wingnut site. Besides since when do you cease having your rights to appeal taken away? Hope it happens to you some day.
Diogenes @ 106:
Sad but true...democracy and the constitution both died that day.
It is Karl Rove's outright denial that he had ever met Dana Jill Simpson which I find interesting. Standard political procedure is to couch the denial in terms like "I have no recollection..." or "I cannot recall..." to preclude the possibility of error. Denial this certain is likely just an outright lie.
abob @ 120:
Wow...gullible much?
Good for Dan Abrams. I watch his show after Countdown every night. Why isn't CNN covering this? Anderson Cooper has done reports for 60 Minutes in the past. It seems like a no brainer that AC 360 would report this as well.
It goes right along the lines of CNN's broken government series. I can't think of a federal agency whose integrity has been more decimated under Bush's watch than the Justice Department.
This case requires a special prosecutor.
Face it, you poor bastards ARE living in a third world dictatorship. But even under the thumb of a corrupt and evil regime, you can find some irony to make you smirk:
"Washington again criticized the handing of power between brothers -- which started when Fidel Castro fell ill in July 2006 -- and laid out its main issues with the Cuban government.
"We still have a government that believes it's appropriate to keep people held as political prisoners, to deny the population their basic political and human rights and to continue with a system of governance that is fundamentally a dictatorship," said U.S. State Department deputy spokesman Tom Casey."
What's wrong with calling it a 'First World Dictatorship'?
Perhaps that is one of the problems people in the west face in gaining real change - too many comfortable, well-off people like to delude themselves that belonging to a first-world economy equals belonging to a civilized, enlightened society........
Alabama newspapers such as The Birmingham News, Mobile Register, Montgomery Advertiser,Selma Times-Journal, Birmingham Times, Anniston Star, Decatur Daily, Tuscaloosa News have all done exhaustive reports on the corruption of Don Siegelman. If the kool-aid drinkers choose to ignore the mountains of evidence accumulated from extensive investigative journalism and continue to lick the ass of convicted felon Siegelman; I will not be joining ya.
I have a dream: Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rice, etc. being driven through the streets of DC in the back of a flatbed to Lafayette Park or the Lincoln Memorial where a guillotine stands. Then (swoosh)(chop)(plop). Hoorah!
Is anybody (Democrat or Republican) in Washington, D.C. listening to this and willing - as an American - to look into it? Probably not.
And the AG won't investigate because, as a Bush sycophant, it's always party above country. No one gives a damn anymore about the rule of law in America and basic fairness.
History has and will (in 100 or 1000 years) judge Bush and will forever call him and his administration the worst and most corrupt in U.S. history.
"Here’s one…sort of. The delay in production of the transcript is attributed, in part, to the death of the court recorder, Jimmy Dickens. The new recorder has asked for and received an extension of at least two months from mid-January."
So we should expect the new recorder to have a fatal accident just before then, right?
chris@111
Chris, I can appreciate your enthusiasim...
But you don't know me so ...
I'll just let you complete the sentence!?!
I'll just bet that you are actually afraid of your death...
am I right?
You don't know me so don't imply that you do!
Back to the Ghost Dance
funny hain't it how danny boy's got all anti-bush after being a member of the yowling high tech lynch mob after gary condit a few years back and how "banjoe boy" scarborough (who had a healthy female intern turn up dead on his congressional office floor not long after chandra levy disappeared) has got him a nice li'l tasty morning cable show and danny boy or anybody else on MSGOP never say squat about it?
Conservatives and the Republican Party should be made to wander in the desert for a generation, to borrow a old testatment scenario, for the actions of Karl Rove, George Bush, Dick Cheney, etal. Never before in the history of our nation has there been in the White House such a combiination of dishonesty, corruption, stupidity and incompetence than there is now.
Conyers is holding hearings on this today. Apparently Siegelmam is one of many falsely prosecuted.
The I's have it:
Investigate.
Indict.
Impeach.
Of course, the I that will win out is Ignore. Stupid is as stupid does, America.
60 Minutes's story about the Seigelman/Riley situation was a very good overview of what's been going on here in Bama for quite a while however it is a very short "Cliff's Notes" version of the actual story. Wiki or Google Richard M. Scrushy and find out what kind of person he is (currently in prison) and the problems he has caused with Healthsouth. Long story short, the two people's testimony who put Seigelman away are both convicted felons. Mix in the fact that Karl Rove got his feet wet in Alabama politics in the mid 90's with allegations of voter tampering, whisper rumors, strong arm tactics, and much more, this story - which is finally seeing national attention - is a snapshot of the playbook which Rove follows and could possibly lead to opening more cans of worms. There is an old saying "The truth is not what happened, it's what you can prove happened" and if more people like Simpson follow their conscience and have the conviction to stand in court, with hand on bible, and state the truth, Rove will be in deep trouble. Hence, the efforts to try to keep this story from surfacing. And yes, the 60 Minutes story was blacked out here and in many parts of the state, the local affiliation (WHNT19) had to get special permission from CBS to run the story on Monday in place of their local news coverage at Six p.m.
America as third world dictatorship? Witness the repuglican (and BushDog Dem) vision of a 'new amerikan century.'
Who will rid of us of this turd-blossom once and for all? Enough is enough... the boy who grew up in Nixon's house needs to be hung out to dry like his political father.
To be perfectly clear, I am not advocating violence. I am just pointing out that Rove's behavior IS TREASON. It fits the textbook definition of the word. It is also ILLEGAL outside of the bounds of treasonous behavior. The only reason he gets away with it is because people throw themselves in front of the bus for him and obstruct justice department investigations (when the only non-politicized part of that department actually does something about it). It's time for citizens to step up to the plate and take care of the traitor in our midst! Anybody who lives in Texas should bind, gag and deliver turdblossom to Congress so he can be questioned there.
When does Karl Rove get arrested and frog-marched to a cold cell? I don't think there's any reason not to do that anymore.
Fucking asshole.
MCMetal @ 58:
Sorry for the bad job framing the referenced quote, it's been a long day.
Pursang @ 141:
GUT THE PIG!
Kathy in St. louis @ 54:
If this don't sound like a plot for a REALLY bad mystery-type novel/movie, I don't know what does. A-freakin'-mazing. It's one thing to be a bit brazen and do a break-in or something as long as you don't get caught, but how can they think, even though circumstancial, that all of these "events" aren't going to have people putting two-and-two together and realizing that something is very seriously wrong here? Do they really believe that we'll all buy the idea that all of these things were just coincidences and that anybody who thinks otherwise is just buying-into a conspiracy theory?
this is such a great story for the news. they should be eating this one up!!
The criminals are clearly operating without any restrictions whatsoever. But then, these are the same people that can steal elections, get away with false flag operations, and ignore the Constitution at will.
I want to know when KARL "CHRISTIAN" ROVE is going down. What makes these guys the "Untouchables?" I feel like I am in the Twilight Zone when I read this kind of shit. You cannot do this and it not catch up to you some day. Are they all planning on leaving the country when the heat gets to be too much? Dubai maybe?
The Rove Republicans could all be rounded up under RICO Laws.
Impeach. Indict. Imprison.
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this is one of the creepier things I've heard about these guys....this is crazy
The thing that really screams this is a political persecution for me (aside from having the guy handcuffed, leg-shackled and shuffled out immediately after his trial), was the fact that they have since been shuffling him by bus between various facilities so that nobody knows where he is nor has access to the guy. Just despicable!
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/The_Permanent_Republican_Majority_1125.html
I heard today that he can't start the appeal process with out the court transcripts - which to this day are not yet released! And this is America??
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