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The awesome archives of C&L: Originally posted by Silent Patriot on 04/25/07.

Stewart and McCain got into a brawl in this segment…Do you think any of the talking heads would have this kind of debate with McCain? Check out the second half of the interview around the six minute mark for the fireworks to begin...

Stewart tries to explain a few things to St. McCain about fighting a civil war:

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"…but that assumes that we're fighting one enemy—they're fighting each other. We're not surrendering to an enemy that has defeated us. We're saying, how do you quell a civil war when it's not your country?"

McCain got very angry that Stewart called them out for using the " you're not supporting the troops," theme and was trying to filibuster the segment…He tried to use the troops as a wedge. Stewart got hot and fought back…McCain started to stutter. (rough transcript)

Stewart: When they say the talking point of "they'll follow us home,"---they're trying to follow us home whether we're in Iraq or not.

Stewart: All I'm saying is you cannot look a soldier in the eye and say questioning the president is less supportive to you than extending your tour for three months when you should be coming home to your family.

McCain: Every American..

Stewart: And that's not fair to put on people that criticize…

McCain: Jon…

Stewart: And you know I love you and respect your service and would never question any of that—this is not about questioning the troops and their ability to fight and their ability to be supported. And that is what the administration does and that is almost criminal.

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Anonymous Source's picture

I really like Jon Stewart when he's not trying way too hard to be funny.

Chris Gamble's picture

I'm as liberal as they come and I'm not afraid to say John McCains a good guy. Too bad he's a repub who will follow Bush/Rove.

ConcernedCanuck's picture

And that is what the administration does and that is almost criminal.

Ahem. It isn't criminal. Hasn't ever been criminal. Since WW2, it is the American way. "Do as we say, and let our corporations rape and steal your natural resources or...." Then ya just shock and awe them to death. Bomb 'em. Call 'em terrists. Call 'em any evil name you can think of. Kill the motherf*&kers! Kill 'em all. Rape their women. It's all ok. Don't worry. One of the US presidents will go on national television, wave a flag, and say how much those disgusting people threatened the American Dream. It's worked for decades from South American countries, to Iran, to Korea, to Vietnam, to Iraq, to Afghanistan, to those horrible blood thirsty Palestinians. G-damn it must be VERY hard to be proud of your history. No wonder it is sugar-coated in your US history books.

Don Davis's picture

ConcernedCanuck @ 3:

And that is what the administration does and that is almost criminal.

Ahem. It isn't criminal. Hasn't ever been criminal. Since WW2, it is the American way. "Do as we say, and let our corporations rape and steal your natural resources or...." Then ya just shock and awe them to death. Bomb 'em. Call 'em terrists. Call 'em any evil name you can think of. Kill the motherf*&kers! Kill 'em all. Rape their women. It's all ok. Don't worry. One of the US presidents will go on national television, wave a flag, and say how much those disgusting people threatened the American Dream. It's worked for decades from South American countries, to Iran, to Korea, to Vietnam, to Iraq, to Afghanistan, to those horrible blood thirsty Palestinians. G-damn it must be VERY hard to be proud of your history. No wonder it is sugar-coated in your US history books.

And now the war-mongering McCain Promises War With Epcot’s ‘World Showcase’

Logan Murphy's picture

Sorry for the technical difficulties, things seem to be working now.

Mike's picture

fourst, wow, he's more journalist than the journalists.

Dahgrostab'ph-r-i's picture

What is the Republican party's problem with dogs? McSame wants to kick Chloe the studio dog...Mittens like to drive his dog cross country in a cage on top of the car. I would hate to hear what Larry Craig does to his dogs.

tz's picture

Hard to believe how Mr MCain sticks to the "terroroism" story line, even while being quite soundly trounced with reason and logic. It is ncredible how many poeple are still swayed by the lies.
R.I.P. USA, death by stupidity and apathy of "the people" who theoretically are at the center of a democratically governed nation. It was fun while it lasted.
We appear doomed to be a nation of fools overlorded by deceitful thugs.

Brad's picture

A crime doesn't have to be on the books to be a crime. Initiative force is a crime.

Cap'n Phealy's picture

Ooh, I see great potential in a C&L All-McCain channel for the next 8 or 9 months (I hope it would become much less relevant after November...)

gmsingh's picture

Guys with testicles acknowledge that it *is* criminal.

Sprint's picture

Easy to say the governments actions aren't criminal when they manipulate the legal system to make it not criminal. Like vetoing a bill that would ban known torture practicies like waterboarding, beating, electrocuting, burning, using dogs, stripping detainees, forcing them to perform or mimic sexual acts.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/08/bush.torture.ap/index.html

It's the most disgusting thing I've seen from Bush and that's saying a lot.

Delia's picture

I think Stewart has been remarkably gentle on McCain since he got the nomination. He's said several times that he thinks any of the three remaining candidates would make a good president (or words to that effect). He hasn't been calling out McCain for following the Bush agenda down the line.

Perturbed's picture

I missed this interview the first time around...but MAN is Stewart a gutsy interviewer. If only more of our non-fake-journalists could press public figures this way.

mike's picture

this video is very revealing. when mccain disagrees with how someone views a situation, he makes an audacious summary of their point and then talks over them until they back down. there is no logic to his arguments, it's just a stupid tug of war. let the man be the senator of Arizona, but we need a fresh start in the white house.

Biff Limbaugh's picture

looking forward to the presidential debates. with a bit of luck old russert might spin the old guy some easy ones.

VegasRage's picture

In the last 8 years we have found out just how important comedians can be. They seem to be the only ones who are able and willing to call politicians out to the mat and say what everyone thinks and get away with it. They seem to be the only ones who can make a real difference, remember Crossfire?

We need more Jon Stewart’s.

woodguy's picture

McCantankerous keeps using the same old hackneyed line, "We are where we are." Aside from being a totally vacuous and utterly meaningless phrase, it begs the questions "Where is that?" and "Do we want to move on to a different and better place or remain here in perpetuity?"

These are REAL questions for which the professional POW and his ilk have no answer, nor will they ever.

And by the way John SIDNEY McCain, adding more troops is not a "new strategy", it is only an compounding of the same old failed one.

Fil's picture

McCain doesn't want defeat and doesn't want to retreat because of pride.
Even if the war is wrong, McCain won't back out just for reasons of pride.

And when pride clouds reason, then unreasonable decisions happen.

Gene Hussein's picture

Perturbed @ 14:

I missed this interview the first time around...but MAN is Stewart a gutsy interviewer. If only more of our non-fake-journalists could press public figures this way.

You don't really need guts to put these wingnuts in their place. Facts, truth and logic do just fine.

Free Sidney Hussein Lunch's picture

John Sidney McClueless III wouldn't know a civil war if Abraham Lincoln freed his slaves.

Orangutan.'s picture

Bush vetoes a ban on torture today in Washington.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080308/pl_nm/usa_waterboarding_veto_dc_3

Mike's picture

hey, is the surge still working?

How long will the surge be working?

When does it become past tense? When will the surge have worked?

MCMetal's picture

Chris Gamble @ 2:

I'm as liberal as they come and I'm not afraid to say John McCains a good guy. Too bad he's a repub who will follow Bush/Rove.

"Good guys" do not change their stance on torture ; especially if they themself were subjected to it .............

Why is the reporting out of Wyoming stuck at 78% for so long.
Hillary still likes Diebold machines more than she likes caucuses.

Mike @ 23:

hey, is the surge still working?

How long will the surge be working?

When does it become past tense? When will the surge have worked?

Great Point. That's using the mind. Staying sharp.

DC's picture

McCain will say or do anything to get elected. He will sell his own mother out if it would help him get over.

MCMetal's picture

DC @ 27:

McCain will say or do anything to get elected. He will sell his own mother out if it would help him get over.

John McJowels already sold off his 1st wife ..................

Impeach cheney and bush's picture

I believe the pro-war people underestimate the longevity of the Iraqis memory and lifespan as a region. America has been a country since 1776 more or less but the region around Iraq has been populated for thousands of years. They have grievances and tribal spats for thousands of years. These people think differently. Americans think short-term disposable capitalistic bs. But the Iraqis thinking is stuff that has existed for thousands of years and we cannot grab our minds around their thinking. Maybe if we left immediately there would be a civil war, or maybe they could wait until we left after 20 years, or 100 years. The Iraqis would fight on generational. And that is the difference between us the middle eastern thinking. Our thinking is immediate theirs appears to be millennial. Or maybe not.

JohnW's picture

McCain is more dangerous than Bush.

ConcernedHusseinCanuck's picture

Orangutan. Hussein. @ 25:

Why is the reporting out of Wyoming stuck at 78% for so long.
Hillary still likes Diebold machines more than she likes caucuses.

Can't say as I'm surprised, considering DLC Clintonatic Party and all.

Zeitgeist's picture

Jeebus. Lon--I mean, Lynne-- Cheney, Hardball, and now this... How the hell can he walk with balls that big? I bet when Jon visits Mexico, the locals call him "cajones grande" and sit upon pairs of beach balls in his honor. I know I will from now on.

Mellifluous's picture

QuickTime version has no sound (for me.) WM version is fine.

jones's picture

Mike @ 6:

fourst, wow, he's more journalist than the journalists.

thirtyfourst. Wow he's more presidential that the presidentialists

amall gib's picture

ConcernedCanuck@3
"Ahem. It isn’t criminal. Hasn’t ever been criminal. Since WW2, it is the American way. “Do as we say, and let our corporations rape and steal your natural resources or….” Then ya just shock and awe them to death. Bomb ‘em. Call ‘em terrists. Call ‘em any evil name you can think of. Kill the motherf*&kers! Kill ‘em all. Rape their women. It’s all ok. Don’t worry. One of the US presidents will go on national television, wave a flag, and say how much those disgusting people threatened the American Dream. It’s worked for decades from South American countries, to Iran, to Korea, to Vietnam, to Iraq, to Afghanistan, to those horrible blood thirsty Palestinians. G-damn it must be VERY hard to be proud of your history. No wonder it is sugar-coated in your US history books."

Yea, there is NOTHING good about the United States of America. You're right; we are all into the killing and the rape. I can't remember a single US President since i've been watching TV who *didn't* go on and on about how much of a threat everybody we bombed and raped were to us. I guess it's as you say, "the American way".
And although you can't vote in our elections, or sign our petitions, at least you take the time to come here and tell us about how completely fucked up we are in this country. Thank you for that.

I know this is off topic (unlike your original post, which was just, spot on), but i'd like to remind you that fifty thousand Aboriginal children need a proper burial.
http://www.hiddenfromhistory.org/
http://canadiangenocide.nativeweb.org/
I didn't get that from any of YOUR history books, but i would assume it's there.

ConcernedHusseinCanuck's picture

amall gib @ 35:

ConcernedCanuck@3
"Ahem. It isn’t criminal. Hasn’t ever been criminal. Since WW2, it is the American way. “Do as we say, and let our corporations rape and steal your natural resources or….” Then ya just shock and awe them to death. Bomb ‘em. Call ‘em terrists. Call ‘em any evil name you can think of. Kill the motherf*&kers! Kill ‘em all. Rape their women. It’s all ok. Don’t worry. One of the US presidents will go on national television, wave a flag, and say how much those disgusting people threatened the American Dream. It’s worked for decades from South American countries, to Iran, to Korea, to Vietnam, to Iraq, to Afghanistan, to those horrible blood thirsty Palestinians. G-damn it must be VERY hard to be proud of your history. No wonder it is sugar-coated in your US history books."

Yea, there is NOTHING good about the United States of America. You're right; we are all into the killing and the rape. I can't remember a single US President since i've been watching TV who *didn't* go on and on about how much of a threat everybody we bombed and raped were to us. I guess it's as you say, "the American way".
And although you can't vote in our elections, or sign our petitions, at least you take the time to come here and tell us about how completely fucked up we are in this country. Thank you for that.

I know this is off topic (unlike your original post, which was just, spot on), but i'd like to remind you that fifty thousand Aboriginal children need a proper burial.
http://www.hiddenfromhistory.org/
http://canadiangenocide.nativeweb.org/
I didn't get that from any of YOUR history books, but i would assume it's there.

The subject wasn't my Canadian history, or Canadian government. I realize shockingly that the Canadian government has committed atrocities as has many others. Do you see them all over the globe in all the media, waving a Canadian flag and influencing EVERYBODY? No you do not. Do you hear of Canadian corporations (that aren't US subsidiaries) doing what US corporations do? Rarely. Do you very often see the Canadian military invading and killing? No. Do you see the Canadian government staging government overthrows in foreign nations? No, you don't. Sure the Canadian government has atrocities, but if you are trying to point out those evil Canadians, you better do a helluva lot better than that. Last count, over a million killed in Iraq, not counting whoever the US military feels like counting. How many dead in South America? Haiti? Cuba? Iran? Palestine? Somalia? Vietnam? Korea? Shall I go on?

Erroll's picture

Stewart sucks up to McCain by using that same old tired and seeming unquestioned line that others have used when he tells McCain that he "respects your service". What does Stewart respect, the fact that McCain was killing innocent Vietnamese people from 20,000 feet up in the air? One suspects that it would be a cold day in hell before this liberal icon would have any member of the VVAW [Vietnam Veterans Against the War] on his program or anyone who was in the documentary Sir! No Sir!, which focused on the GI movement that took place during the Vietnam conflict at or near military bases at home and abroad those many years ago. This statement by Stewart simply proves that even alleged liberals like Jon Stewart are not immune from allowing their emotions to overrule their brains.

JohnyMcPuffycheeks's picture

"We are where we are"

You can say that mindless shit for eternity. Which is exactly how long the war machine companies want us to be in Iraq.

From a guy running for president, you would expect the guy to mention one new direction or thought or policy he would implement. If you didn't like the last 8 years (and only really old rich white guys did) then you are going to fucking hate President McBush.

It's never going to change, and it's never going to get better. Just get used to it.

mudshark's picture

Zarqawi says this and Zarqawi says that.
he's been dead for over a year now.
He must've meant Zawahiri.
either that or he's listening to the dead

AngryOne's picture

The Daily Show's Jon Stewart tried to warn him in 2006, but John McCain didn't listen. Battered by all sides over his embrace of End Times Pastor John Hagee, John McCain is finally experiencing the blowback from his pandering visits to "crazy base world."

For the details, see:
"Jon Stewart Warned McCain About 'Crazy Base World.'"

KYhillbilly's picture

ConcernedCanuck @ 3:

And that is what the administration does and that is almost criminal.

Ahem. It isn't criminal. Hasn't ever been criminal. Since WW2, it is the American way. "Do as we say, and let our corporations rape and steal your natural resources or...." Then ya just shock and awe them to death. Bomb 'em. Call 'em terrists. Call 'em any evil name you can think of. Kill the motherf*&kers! Kill 'em all. Rape their women. It's all ok. Don't worry. One of the US presidents will go on national television, wave a flag, and say how much those disgusting people threatened the American Dream. It's worked for decades from South American countries, to Iran, to Korea, to Vietnam, to Iraq, to Afghanistan, to those horrible blood thirsty Palestinians. G-damn it must be VERY hard to be proud of your history. No wonder it is sugar-coated in your US history books.

Could not agree more but how do we change what you so accurately describe. Looking for that answer.

This link has some interesting tidbits: http://www.freewarehof.org/myths.html

Every nation sees itself as superior to all other nations. Patriotism is universal.
It is built partly on fact but mostly on myths created by its people and government.

Everyone who believes in a god is convinced totally that he sides with them. On such mirage will Muslims and U.S. Marines lay down their lives believing their cause just, and parents accept the sacrifice of their children.

Patriotism must be drilled into young minds if children are to grow up willing to die for the homeland. (Calling it fatherland or motherland makes it easier to die for.) "We are the best" is echoed in education codes throughout the world requiring school books to promote one kind of government, one economic system, one superior nation. For the US it's the typical words in the Texas legal code: schools exist to indoctrinate "democracy, patriotism, and the free-enterprise system."

Convincing people they are the greatest and the government is worth dying for is so easy that every government is successful. Children believe authority. First interpret history so you look good, then create myths of moral superiority. Your young are now willing to die for you unless someone drastically re-programs them. Which isn't easy. As Mark Twain observed, "You can't reason someone out of something they weren't reasoned into."

Which do you feel is better, believing myths, or knowing the truth?

Howard Zinn presentation at MIT (3/05) on The Myth of American Exceptionalism:
http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/258/

calgarylady's picture

Mike @15: I agree with you. It is a perfect display of McCain's disdain for anyone who has a different opinion than him. I am surprised he didn't put his fingers in his ears and say "la la la I can't hear you". To talk over somebody else is incredibly impolite. Joking about kicking a dog is also not amusing. I hope and pray that these republican bullies get their asses handed to them in November. Americans are ready for someone who is willing to sit down and talk instead of yelling at and bullying others.

I think a little humility on the part of the US might go a long way with the concerned others on this planet who are watching. Hell, you might even make some new "friends" (sorry). Right now most of the world views the US as a skunk at a picnic. You know how that goes if not handled well. Most unfortunate results.

RMHK's picture

Chris Gamble @ 2:

I'm as liberal as they come and I'm not afraid to say John McCains a good guy. Too bad he's a repub who will follow Bush/Rove.

I'm sure he is a very nice little war monger. He's old and knows little about the economy. No one talks about the fact that he cheated on his first wife every chance he got. He has a terrible temper and was the least liked senator in the senate. If he becomes president, I hope everyone who voted for him gets drafted.

MCMetal's picture

calgarylady @ 42:

Mike @15: I agree with you. It is a perfect display of McCain's disdain for anyone who has a different opinion than him. I am surprised he didn't put his fingers in his ears and say "la la la I can't hear you". To talk over somebody else is incredibly impolite. Joking about kicking a dog is also not amusing. I hope and pray that these republican bullies get their asses handed to them in November. Americans are ready for someone who is willing to sit down and talk instead of yelling at and bullying others.

I think a little humility on the part of the US might go a long way with the concerned others on this planet who are watching. Hell, you might even make some new "friends" (sorry). Right now most of the world views the US as a skunk at a picnic. You know how that goes if not handled well. Most unfortunate results.

I have no problems with bullying and yelling ; so long as you're willing to go into the fight leading the way yourself.

Not having a bunch of kids fighting your battles for you and dying over your own ignorance ,stubborness , stupidity and pride...........

SlimRainsford's picture

Neither Obummer nor Clinton could be bothered to vote for the bill that would ban waterboarding and other types of torture.

And we're supposed to feel that there's some great difference between McCain and these two disgusting pieces of sh-t?

They can all go to hell.

AlainMorbray2's picture

Why in hell does Stewart have to say he loves the guy?
Stewart LOVES McCain.
What is wrong with liberals?
Does they really love the taste of shit so much?

seth's picture

Do you think McCain can be a diplomat when he can't even talk in a civil way to Jon Stewart?

I especially like he's reflexive tough guy talk of when Stewart tells him to settle down and he says "you settle down, my friend". Stewart was pretty calm for this to be said to him.

Kathy in St. louis's picture

Chris Gamble @ 2:

I'm as liberal as they come and I'm not afraid to say John McCains a good guy. Too bad he's a repub who will follow Bush/Rove.

He could be a good guy on 99.99% of the issues. If he wants to continue this debacle in Iraq, that's a deal breaker. This war is ruining our country, our reputation and our economy. When we are done over there we could be a real 2nd rate power in this world. So, forget the good guy stuff. He's kind of a blockhead if he doesn't get this.

Shag's picture

McCain's humor is sadistic: "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran," "Kick that dog." He's a warmonger, rightwing paternalistic asshole. He should be spending his golden years with his grandchildren, and petting dogs, instead of "kicking" them.

jb's picture

I have to keep remembering that Obama or Clinton can still beat this guy. Eyes on the prize.
Also remember that John McCain was a great POW.
He was not a great pilot.

OliverDreams's picture

Kathy in St. louis @ 48:

Chris Gamble @ 2:

I'm as liberal as they come and I'm not afraid to say John McCains a good guy. Too bad he's a repub who will follow Bush/Rove.

He could be a good guy on 99.99% of the issues. If he wants to continue this debacle in Iraq, that's a deal breaker. This war is ruining our country, our reputation and our economy. When we are done over there we could be a real 2nd rate power in this world. So, forget the good guy stuff. He's kind of a blockhead if he doesn't get this.

And don't forget that he said his model for a Supreme Court Justice would be in the mold of Alito and Roberts...the 2 most right-wing wackos in Supreme Court history. Considering the implications of that is mind boggling scary.

gwen's picture

mccain is not a good guy, he just plays one on tv

Imichael's picture

Does anyone know someone that is voting for McCain? I want to belittle them. I'm sorry, I know I should not pick on those that are handicap.

j's picture

what kind of performance will we get from him in a GE debate? Most MSM kiss his ass so I can't see anyone getting somewhat argumentive with him...

motorfingaz's picture

Chris Gamble @ 2:

I'm as liberal as they come and I'm not afraid to say John McCains a good guy. Too bad he's a repub who will follow Bush/Rove.

McCain is a republican, that makes him WRONG!

motorfingaz's picture

gwen @ 52:

mccain is not a good guy, he just plays one on tv

EXACTLY!

amall gib's picture

Concerned Canuck@36

So you don't miss my point, i'll spell it out:
I'm not trying to point out "those evil Canadians"; i'm focusing on one single Canadian. I can easily ignore it when the same people respond to everything with "Hillary is the devil!", but i have to say something when i'm summarily told that the American way has been to kill and rape. Obviously it has happened and is happening; that's why we're all here bitching - the US is certainly far from perfect. But in response to your post: there is A LOT to be EXTREMELY proud of with regard to American History, and my guess is that most Americans would be terribly insulted by your complete generalization to the contrary. You define the word 'ironic' by coming to THIS website and implying that THESE people would have any difficulty finding _something_ to be proud of in their country (do you really not understand that the people reading your post are united in their effort toward CHANGE in our government?!). Incredible.

For the record, i love the Ontario Canadians. Living in a border state (Michigan) i of course know a bit more about your government and some of your larger social issues than i would otherwise. I cross that border 4 times a year minimum.
My fully-functioning cerebellum (and my age) would never allow me to get into any type of "you've killed more people than we have so who are you to talk?" context. I would suggest articulating a logical followup and leaving out the citation of millions of dead nationals if you want to get a response (let alone if you wish to be taken seriously). Do you honestly *not* understand me pointing out the Canadian genocide in response to your generalization/condemnation with regard to "the American way"?

Please, for the sake of productive and thoughtful deliberation, *do not* go on.

whalleywhat's picture

ConcernedHusseinCanuck @ 36:

amall gib @ 35:

ConcernedCanuck@3
"Ahem. It isn’t criminal. Hasn’t ever been criminal. Since WW2, it is the American way. “Do as we say, and let our corporations rape and steal your natural resources or….” Then ya just shock and awe them to death. Bomb ‘em. Call ‘em terrists. Call ‘em any evil name you can think of. Kill the motherf*&kers! Kill ‘em all. Rape their women. It’s all ok. Don’t worry. One of the US presidents will go on national television, wave a flag, and say how much those disgusting people threatened the American Dream. It’s worked for decades from South American countries, to Iran, to Korea, to Vietnam, to Iraq, to Afghanistan, to those horrible blood thirsty Palestinians. G-damn it must be VERY hard to be proud of your history. No wonder it is sugar-coated in your US history books."

Yea, there is NOTHING good about the United States of America. You're right; we are all into the killing and the rape. I can't remember a single US President since i've been watching TV who *didn't* go on and on about how much of a threat everybody we bombed and raped were to us. I guess it's as you say, "the American way".
And although you can't vote in our elections, or sign our petitions, at least you take the time to come here and tell us about how completely fucked up we are in this country. Thank you for that.

I know this is off topic (unlike your original post, which was just, spot on), but i'd like to remind you that fifty thousand Aboriginal children need a proper burial.
http://www.hiddenfromhistory.org/
http://canadiangenocide.nativeweb.org/
I didn't get that from any of YOUR history books, but i would assume it's there.

The subject wasn't my Canadian history, or Canadian government. I realize shockingly that the Canadian government has committed atrocities as has many others. Do you see them all over the globe in all the media, waving a Canadian flag and influencing EVERYBODY? No you do not. Do you hear of Canadian corporations (that aren't US subsidiaries) doing what US corporations do? Rarely. Do you very often see the Canadian military invading and killing? No. Do you see the Canadian government staging government overthrows in foreign nations? No, you don't. Sure the Canadian government has atrocities, but if you are trying to point out those evil Canadians, you better do a helluva lot better than that. Last count, over a million killed in Iraq, not counting whoever the US military feels like counting. How many dead in South America? Haiti? Cuba? Iran? Palestine? Somalia? Vietnam? Korea? Shall I go on?

Pride is the virtue of the vicious no matter what country you live in. I'm Canadian, and so much Canadian patriotism strikes me as ridiculous because it's largely based on NOT being American, and when there is "substance," it's something ridiculous like "Our corporations are nicer than your corporations." Canada isn't the leading superpower in the world, so CSIS doesn't have the ability or motivation to foster a coup in Argentina or elsewhere. Our weaselly little politicians are too busy selling our citizens out to Saudi Arabia or America or any other country they're looking to make a quick buck off of.
Your criticisms of America would be a lot more compelling if they didn't seem to be based in "everything America does is BAD."

dave's picture

Great interview. Stewart holds McCain's feet to the fire. So many reporters for whatever reason, are just so willing to accept a candidates canned response, not press the issue, and move on.

Stewart gives a great analogy of architects of this war to an architect building a house with no doors or windows, and then blaming the critics for not being able to see in.

McCain repeats the myth that if we "surrender" in Iraq, Al Qaeda wins. To which Stewart responds that war critics realize that there is a threat from organizations like Al Qeada, but that the war in Iraq, does not reduce that threat, and may very well increase the that threat.

McCain is nervous and uncomfortable (weird karate chops near the end of the segment). He get's booed when he makes a blanket statement about the troops supporting the war, and when McCain starts to characterize the war as "unpopular" Stewart stops him mid sentence, and corrects him and says, "its not about popularity"...and then goes on to say its about how the government has conducted itself and the war.

All in all a great interview and great television. Mainstream journalists should take a look at comedy central to see how politicians interviewed.

St. Vitus's picture

That was before Jon Stewart got a mortgage.

hoss's picture

The QuickTime clips have no audio track.

jackp's picture

I have to hand it to McCain, he has balls going on there. When Michael Moore asked to interview Hillary Clinton, she turned it down. These are the hard questions that need to be asked during the debates. I enjoyed the interview and I think McCain is wrong, very wrong. there was no purpose to be there in the first place, and now he is pointing the finger at the botch up the administration caused. I do not like the reasoning "well, we're there, now let's get things right." McCain has no solution to the problem except perhaps nuke Iran. McCain is a likable national figure but he is for WAR, more deaths, more corporate greed.

Thom Paine Rides Again's picture

Whatever humanity McCain possessed was left behind him in the Nam, and very likely there in the cockpit when he knew he was going down.

John McCain is pathetic. Stewart owned him. McCain's bombastic manner would be the kill-shot to what remains of US dignity.

- Paine

lost_nacf_gop's picture

McTalkingpoint-fuckstick pukebag nonsense Rush OHanitwittyness bullshit and tie spew from nowhere. Four more years of idiocy, Saint mcCain, you fraud.

archmunster's picture

VegasRage @ 17:

We need more Jon Stewart’s.

Yeah, that's right, that's exactly what we need. More comedians to prop up and pander to the extreme right...

This little interview may have been an example of Jon Stewart standing up to McCain, but it's also a good example of Jon Stewart licking McCain's ass every chance he got...from saying he "loved him" to actually stroking his hand. The overall takeaway from any Jon Stewart/McCain interview is that liberals, right leaning democrats and indepenents should not fear McCain--he's a good, decent, honorable man, someone we can respectfully disagree with but one that would lead this country well were he to be elected.

Which of course is patently false and dangerous.

So in conclusion--thank you, no, what we don't need is more Jon Stewarts.

Erroll's picture

archmunster @ 65:

VegasRage @ 17:

We need more Jon Stewart’s.

Yeah, that's right, that's exactly what we need. More comedians to prop up and pander to the extreme right...

This little interview may have been an example of Jon Stewart standing up to McCain, but it's also a good example of Jon Stewart licking McCain's ass every chance he got...from saying he "loved him" to actually stroking his hand. The overall takeaway from any Jon Stewart/McCain interview is that liberals, right leaning democrats and indepenents should not fear McCain--he's a good, decent, honorable man, someone we can respectfully disagree with but one that would lead this country well were he to be elected.

Which of course is patently false and dangerous.

So in conclusion--thank you, no, what we don't need is more Jon Stewarts.

Well said.

Banelos's picture

I wish this Jon Stewart had interviewed Hillary Clinton this week instead of the chicken "How are you holding up?" Jon Stewart it seemed we got instead.

PHIL's picture

McCains entire argument is flawed. Hes basicly saying I was a chritic of this but lets keep doing it anyway. Sorry old man, you shouldnt be president.

bshock's picture

Jon Stewart seems a very self-effacing person, so I'm sure he would refuse the title of "Best Journalist in America." Regardless, this title may very well be accurate.

Perhaps he might agree with it, though, if we first admit that his competition is so outrageously pathetic.

Big Dick Cheney's picture

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Mike's picture

You know what? I think the problem is so many politicians have become like the famous Iraqi Information minister.
http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/
There is no global warming on the streets of New York! We will crush the recession like a sand flee beneath a camel.
The surge is working. There is no civil war in Baghdad. Regulation is the problem not the solution.

Mike's picture

Sorry, here is a direct link to his best quotes...
http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/#quotes

John Silver's picture

How refreshing to watch a civil exchange between two intelligent adults on a sensitive and divisive topic. It may have gotten heated, but it remained civil.

Name calling gets us nowhere.

Batocchio's picture

Why can't "serious" journalists be this on point? Good for Stewart, shame on the MSM.

john horse's picture

Senator McCain: "It is what it is."

Well, I think that just about sums it up, doesn't it? The handy catch phrase that avoids having to address any of the points raised by Mr. Stewart.

Is it asking too much for the candidate of a major political party to be a little bit deeper intellectually than that coach on that beer commercial or slacker/stoners like the Great Lebowski or Jay and Silent Bob?

How the GOP has fallen. What was once the party of intellectual giants like Theodore Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln is now reduced to the likes of George Bush and John McCain.

gatto's picture

Jon Stewart is a fucking appalling interviewer. The way he badgered McCain and scarcely allowed him to get a word in edgewise was not just disgraceful, but downright cowardly.

Yellowbird's picture

Boy that McCain is a stubborn self centered ignorant old bastard isn't he?

He listens to NO ONE.

He is FIXATED on his own views.

He INSISTS ON WINNING THE CONVERSATION.

KUDOS TO JOHN STEWART FOR STANDING UP TO THIS STINKING OLD BASTARD.

God have mercy on our nation if the vote is stolen again, because that is what it would take, and this old stinking killer bastard becomes the occupant of the white house.

We should all we working to pack the congress to ward against these thug killer bastard repornicans.

mani's picture

gatto @ 76:

Jon Stewart is a fucking appalling interviewer. The way he badgered McCain and scarcely allowed him to get a word in edgewise was not just disgraceful, but downright cowardly.

McCain was repeating himself. It seemed to me Jon was saving McCain from himself, and bringing up some serious points and contradictions in his policy. McCain is obsessed with his Mafia staying at war, while Jon is obsessed with the contradictions this moron is saying. Good on you Jon Stewart.

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