FOXNews' Tom Sullivan: Blacks Will Riot If Obama Loses
By Logan Murphy Wednesday Mar 19, 2008 9:10pm Listen: 
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On his Fox News radio show, Tom Sullivan predicted that African-Americans would be rioting in the streets similar to what happened after the O.J. trial in the 1990s.
Let me put it to you a different way. What if Barack Obama is not -- does not win the Democratic nomination, or he does win it, and loses in the presidential race against John McCain? Is black America going to throw their hands up and say, 'Man, you know, I thought we were getting somewhere in this country, but this is just a bunch of racial bigots in this country and they still hate blacks and, I mean, if Barack Obama can't get elected, then we're never gonna have anybody that's a black that's gonna be elected president.' And will there be riots in the streets? I think the answer to that is yes and yes. Read on...
Well, Senator Obama wanted to open a dialog about race with the American people -- here's his answer from FOXNews. The unwashed, uncivilized black folk will riot if they don't get their candidate. For an extra laugh, I lifted this quip from Sullivan's page on the Fox website: (don't click unless you want to give them hits)
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I think I'll riot in the streets if I see Tom Sullivan.
And this douche-bag gets a pay check. Unbelievable.
(First).
What an idiot....
No, Republicans will riot when they find this out.
Talk about race baiting....
It bet Sullivan has a small package....he's really just jealous.
why do black people always bring up the dick thing they must really like dick and big dicks at that and another thing is no white girl wants your aids infested dick
Racism = Vote Republican
I hear a dog whistle, its telling me to forget worrying about the Ay-Rabs and start worrying about them colored folks. I better git my shotgun.
Weren't a bunch of right wing republicans fully organized and set up to riot in the streets if Al Gore assumed the presidency in 2000?
This just sounds like projecting to me. They seem to do that a lot.
Crackers say the darnest things...
And so do Niggers, call me a cracker and I have all right to call you a ******!
Republicans Riot after hearing Diebold leaked 2008 election results months too early.
See they are piling on now that Obama's taken a jab that connected.
I said they were going to get nasty and you can bet it's going to get worse.
The truth is it will probably be right wing whites who will be rioting in the streets if Obama get's the Presidency.
I won't click cuz I don't want to give them hits
Obviously, the Right is trying to provoke nasty things.
Further proof of how despicable they are.
Unkl Witz @ 12:
It's comedy from the Onion.
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As a “half-black” I will be NOT be rioting.
I will be shoplifting and committing welfare fraud instead.
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jitter @ 8:
There were a bunch of paid and organized GOP thugs that were sent to impede the recount process via intimidation and barmy behavior.
Up to recently the favorite sport down in the South used to be "hanging black people from trees."
Blacks had to endure centuries of slavery, segregation, lynchings.... without much as a peep in retaliation, and yet they get to be the "violent, unreasonable, fear black anger" ones...
Ain't that a motherfucking bitch!
if obama gets the wins the nomination but does not receive it-- if obama wins the election as gore did in 2000 and does not become president-- all americans should riot-- as the founding fathers did--
Jesus Christ, I knew you liberals were slow witted morons with brain sludge instead of brain cells but my God. I never knew just how delirious you all are. The right this, the right that, blah blah blah. "Race baiting" the only ones race baiting here is everyone of you filthy libs. Anti-Obama? Oh you must be racist simple as that. Give me a fucking brak, I'm Anti-Obama for the same reasons I am anti-filthy liberal (WHITES INCLUDED). The reason being you all need to be deported to your favorite countries you all talk about so much as "islands of justice" i.e. France, Cuba, etc. Yeah your right, there will be a riot. There will be a riot of all true Americans fighting against the Socialist revolution that your Messiah is leading and you pathetic sheeple are following. I will join right in when those riots happen because the REST and MAINSTREAM of America (as much as you HATE to admit it) despises this man and what he and YOU stand for. I look forward to the next Civil War, and will take great pleasure in going after you hippies as I cling to my "gun and religion." Take care hippies, I have to go now, I can only hold my breath in this lib tank for so long.
We should stop calling them the Right ... lets just refer to them as the Wrong, after all, they have been wrong on everything the last Seven plus years.
WRONG!!!! Democrats have held congress the past couple years and thats why things went downhill
This is all I have to say:
Cause everybody in the hood has had it up to here,
Its getting harder and harder and harder each and every year.
Some kids went in a store with thier mother,
I saw her when she came out she was gettin some pampers.
They said it was for the black man,
They said it was for the mexican,
And not for the white man.
But if you look at the streets it wasn't about rodney king,
Its bout this fucked up situation and these fucked up police.
Its about coming up and staying on top
L.A. Confidential @ 11:
The only reason why the jab connected was because the "liberal" media, once again acted more like the PR dept of the GOP than its mission as the 4th estate.
At least Obama has shown more backbone in his reply, than the whole of the Dem party combined.
Amazing what 2 words taken out of context can do...
But whitey gets to have their cake (treat minorities like shit) and eat it too (get to play the victim card).
The funniest thing was that I was ambivalent about the Dem candidates, as only Kucinich seemed to offer something that papa liked and both Hillary and Obama are/were not liberal enough for me. Alas, Obama won me over in the past week. Ironic, eh?
This idea is in the air today. Al Giordano of The Field (whose name is mentioned in the diary by Markos that Colbert puts on screen) has written a post called "Plan Jericho", today.
http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=917
It's a pretty big deal to find out that Giordano was mentored by Abbie Hoffmann. It's an even bigger deal to see that on the day when Al is able to get a "Colbert bump" of sorts, he decides to publish what must be considered the ultimate answer to the Clinton kitchen sink strategy.
Has Al gone too far?
Off to breakfast ... later good people.
Send the Tyrants packing.
The Dude @ 16:
Don't forget " The Jenna 6".....................they have every reason to protest.
Oh, for God's sake. Cable network news has become such a joke, and I mean all of them. Who is this guy anyway? I am so sick of listening to retarded comments by pundits. They're beyond stupid.
African Americans will riot in the streets if he loses, and Muslim extremists will dance in the streets if he wins. If I had my pick, I'd take dancing in the streets.
He's certifiable. But if the election gets "stolen" again, we should riot!
Spicegal @ 24:
there is no end to their stupidity Spicegal..nope,neverending stupidity.
Can someone explain to me what is so controversial about this statement? Anyone with two brain cells to rub together agrees that Obama is the most likely person to get the nomination. More popular votes, more superdelegates, more everything. If they steal the nomination from him, there SHOULD be riots in the streets, and you can bet that the black community will be leading those riots, and, quite frankly, they should be.
Dang. In that case, I had better vote for him!
I've got to give this guy some credibilty ONLY because racism does still exist here in the good Ol' US and it's completely naive to think that every one is voting for Obama because HE IS the smartest one. SOME black folks have no problem knowing nothing about Obama other than he's black and that's enough for them...Those are the fools to riot if he doesn't win. Now, the ENTIRE black race in America will riot? Please, what an artard if that was what this pundit is indeed suggesting. Only those voting for obama for purely racist reasons may riot. Let me remind all, that racism isn't always "negative." For example "black males have huge penis's" is definately a racist thing to say but C'mon what man doesn't want to be known for having a big penis. Basically that's a Positive over a negative "blacks Lazy!" Plus, You could make the same argument with hillary and women if she doesn't win. But it's easier to "Beleive" with the race issue only because of how fresh RK is in our minds
Late,
QSE#@
Wow....if America hadn't reached its lowest point electing Bush twice and invading Iraq, turning the Presidential election into a bigger mockery than the OJ trial just pushed us even lower in my eyes.
I know it's the same race-obsessive fanatics that are always the culprits on both sides. But seriously, the 40, 50 or 60% of the American population that is smart enough to have a discussion about race without reducing it to stereotypes don't even bother to push back against it.
I hope this ends the "race doesn't matter" debate in America.
Race ALWAYS matter.....even when it shouldn't. Obama was questioned whether he was "black enough" because he bent over backwards highlighting how he didn't descend from slaves nd wanted to compromise and unit. But once again, those filthy few have taken over the discussion and made him into something that he is not.
If Obama loses in November.....it won't be a loss for him and his family because his name will live forever.
It will be a another collective loss for the American People.
What he really is saying is white racists will riot in the streets if Obama does win.
I can forsee crowds of ten and twelve in three major US cities.
Um, the LA riots were in response to the Simi Valley verdict in the trial of the officers accused of beating Rodney King.
Simpson was found not guilty which did not incite any notable rioting.
If Obama loses like Gore did in 2000, it won't be just the blacks rioting.
Snore @ 34:
Amen
Douglas Wilder (Obama supporter) has been telling superdelegates the same thing--
This muttonhead belongs in a Dentu-Creme ad.
As a white male who supports Obama, I'm insulted that this jerk would thinks white people can't riot. Now that's prejudice!
Seriously, I'm beginning to think that instead of asking "Is Obama ready to be President?", a more appropriate question would be: "Is America grown up enough to accept a President Obama?"
Just like the way they rioted when Jesse Jackson didn't win in '84 or '88?
Dumbass.
Not to put too fine a point on the facts, but weren't the riots after the Rodney King trail? I don't think there were riots after the O.J. verdict, unless you count the riot in Marcia Clarke's knickers.
Rioting—the unbeatable high
Adrenalin shoots your nerves to the sky
Everyone knows this town is gonna blow
And it's all gonna blow right now….
Now you can smash all the windows that you want
All you really need are some friends and a rock
Throwing a brick never felt so damn good
Smash more glass
Scream with a laugh
And wallow with the crowds
Watch them kicking peoples' ass
But you get to the place
Where the real slavedrivers live
It's walled off by the riot squad
Aiming guns right at your head
So you turn right around
And play right into their hands
And set your own neighbourhood
Burning to the ground instead
Where did Fox find this loser? Must be one of O'Riley's old drinking buddies.
carefulwiththatAXEeugene @ 41:
Jello Biafra
Don't steal!!! give credit
Zenrage @ 39:
Or Shirley Chisholm in '72, throngs of angry black women took to the streets protesting the double injustice, not.
Zenrage @ 39:
Jesse never had the clout or the chance obama does
Late,
QSE#@
qse32 @ 43:
You just did! :)
I listened to part of his broadcast, and what struck me that he was absolutely fear-mongering the prospect of a race war in
America. His attitude was blatantly pandering to ignorance - in effect "hide the white women - the N****** are gettin' riled up". The level of ignorance and bigotry expressed were appalling.
But, can we really expect anything else from Fox? Are we surprised? The best thing we can do about this issue is to shine the light of day on it.
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Well golly Tom,I guess you better do everything in your power to make sure he DOESN'T lose then huh?
Because if he does--according to your thoughtful analysis--we can assume black folks will be swarming through your up scale neighborhood and crawling through your tastefully reproduced Tudor style windows in the middle of the night to carve up that pasty fat white hide of yours.Then they're gonna hang your balls off of the chandelier.
This is THE most ignorant, backward country in the Western World.
pinkobait @ 49:
Somehow i don't think he is letting on that he is full of shit.
xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 51:
He kind a looks like Lou Dobbs without the big wobbly head.
Someone should tell Tom that there actually was NO rioting after the OJ verdict. Maybe he was confused with the Rodney King verdict. Cause, you know, all trials involving black men are the same, right?
I'm ashamed to admit that a close family member of mine said pretty much the same thing to me a couple of weeks ago. She was worried that if Obama was elected, that "the blacks" would take over the White House, and who knows what would happen next? I told her she was a racist, straight up. And then I told her she might want to start thinking about leaving the country if she doesn't like it.
Its going to get worse before it gets better...
What if he wins?
Will my job go away?
The Wyldth1ng @ 55:
Is this Hillary?
I'm gonna riot if repugs win - who's with me?!?!
They truly think we're savages. What a bunch of Morons.
everyone and i repeat everyone at foxnewscrap
are bigots and make totally salacious comments.
all fox crap reporters and broadcasts should
be removed from the any public viewing or listening.
they are reichwingneocon pundits and biased racists.
Den @ 53:
Nice catch. I totally missed that when I put this post together.
Riot? Not VERY likely.
March? Hell yeah. From my Texas doorstep to Washington D.C.
This country needs Obama's leadership. If people are duped by the media once again, I WILL march... and it won't just be Black people marching with me. Count on that.
There are some who will never wake up. There are others who will play with their heads for political gain, so long as that is the case.
Howve,r Bud@54 and others, I implore you that when it comes to those close to you, please take Obama's lead, and open a dialogue with them.. Try to understand why they think what they think. Try to gain some empathy for their position, and then try to help them find their way to reason.
I fear we are about to miss our last chance at avoiding complete collapse, because of these racist appeals, and the noise around them. None of us has the power or ability to drown out that machine. But each of us individually may be able to make a difference with those close to us who need it (even if they don't recognize it.) But reaching them will require patience, intellect, and finesse.
Whether or not we make that effort could make all the difference...
I know this is a little off-topic but I was reading a new thread above this one about Senator Obama going after McCain on his Iraq gaffe when my browser locked up. I rebooted and the story disappeared. WTF?
More like 81% of the population will be rioting if the vote is stolen for a 3 time.
What is it? Fool me once ...
Peter G @ 63:
two words , homeland security!
My great grandfather,Thomas J. Sullivan who was head of the Treasury Department from 1904-1906 when he died, would have had this bastard in irons for saying something so outrageous.No,he would have killed him with his bare hands.This Tom Sullivan is a disgrace to our name.He`s also quite ugly.He looks like a defrocked televangelist.My take is that as ugly as this guy is,his soul is far uglier.
“He’s an idiot; comes from upbringing. His parents were probably idiots, too."
Who knew 'Back to the
FührerFuture' would be so prophetic.JohnnyBravo @ 58:
That, and the fact that projection comes second nature to the wing nuts.
Because sure as fuck a lot of head gaskets are going to blow up, esp. in the South, if a half breed gets the presidency.
Heck, the one and only time a WASP manage to squeeze into their white house... it didn't even finished his first term without having his brains scattered all over Dallas.
The Dude @ 67:
I meant a "non WASP"
FoxNews loves its staple "get-off-my-lawn" male audience (mainly white, angry and racist). The guy dresses like Herb Tarlek and most likely wears Depends.
tyree @ 65:
Are you serious?I had a comment to a story about torture on Kos that I could not access until I went to my own comments section.Damn .This is scary.
I`m not going to stop my rants against torture,and I don`t care what Homeland Security says.
How can anyone with a brain vote for someone whose friends and mentors and advisors hate America and its people so much? 20 years with this self-professed mentor Jeremiah Wright, clearly a major-league hate-monger. Political career intimately intertwined with Bill Ayers and his wife, both self-professed america hating terrorists who to this day will not apologize or renounce their crimes or hatred. Obama has had close association/friendship with BOTH in his RECENT history. This stupid diversionary tactic about how he was 8 when they committed their crimes answers nothing. No one is criticising him for anything when he was 8. It was in CURRENT history that he has been associated with these. And how about having major league criminal Tony Rezko help him get a "sweet deal" on his house, and coincidentally getting great treatment and money from the Govt. per Obama. And the list goes on. Criminals, Terrorists, America Hating bigots...he is either the stupidest and unluckiest person in history or has the worst judgment of all time by having these people as his close mentors. Either way, he is clearly unfit to be anywhere near the white house. These are facts.
How can anyone with a brain vote for someone whose friends and mentors and advisors hate America and its people so much? 20 years with this self-professed mentor Jeremiah Wright, clearly a major-league hate-monger. Political career intimately intertwined with Bill Ayers and his wife, both self-professed america hating terrorists who to this day will not apologize or renounce their crimes or hatred. Obama has had close association/friendship with BOTH in his RECENT history. This stupid diversionary tactic about how he was 8 when they committed their crimes answers nothing. No one is criticising him for anything when he was 8. It was in CURRENT history that he has been associated with these. And how about having major league criminal Tony Rezko help him get a "sweet deal" on his house, and coincidentally getting great treatment and money from the Govt. per Obama. And the list goes on. Criminals, Terrorists, America Hating bigots...he is either the stupidest and unluckiest person in history or has the worst judgment of all time by having these people as his close mentors. Either way, he is clearly unfit to be anywhere near the white house. These are facts.
You know, I was around during and after the OJ Simpson trial, and I don't recall blacks rioting in the streets. Some were happy about the verdict, apparently, but nobody was rioting. By the way - Who the fuck is Tom Sullivan?? Where are they getting these cretins from? One problem I have though is, I'm not sure where this despicable race-baiting is coming from? Is it the GOP? The DLC faction backing Hillary? Both??? I really, really don't like the direction in which this campaign is going.
My #67 in MODERATION??? Boy you guys are touchy lately!
Acting Patriotic @ 72:
OK, there is no racism in the South. The GOP storm troopers never made a fuss in Florida in 2000. And Kennedy, an Irish Catholic, lived a long and fulfilling life after his presidency.
There, does it make you feel better... What was I thinking, pointing out facts?
Is the OJ verdict being confused here with the Rodney King/police brutality acquittal?
I don't remember any riots over OJ.
Not to strain the off topic stuff,but my wife just told me that she was cut off talking to a friend from work(American Airlines).Can you guess what they were talking about?`ll give you a clue.It was an infamous date. My wife has called her back twice and got voice mail.This is creepy.
#74 The Dude Says: Acting Patriotic @ 72:
My #67 in MODERATION??? Boy you guys are touchy lately!
DUDE CHILL OUT ~ MY comment is "#67 Acting Patriotic Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. "
Way to go mods...starting a fight that isn't there!
KansasCityFaGt @ 74:
they only burnt down a few buildings in my town broke out a few windows but it gave us a night in after the mayor declared a cerfew!!!!
What a colossal asshole. That's all the response he deserves for his race bating and fear mongering.
The media and the wingers/racists are certainly doing everything they can to eliminate him. If the Right can't assassignated him politically (middle name, association with ministers or other leaders), I'm sure some idiot will try to take him out in another way. I sure hope the Bushies have extra men on his case. Him being taken out would surely make things a mess in this country.
Hey, its FauxSnooze.
We all know its full of white supremacist racists!
Acting Patriotic @ 76:
Apologies, I thought you were referring to my post #67... Lack of coffee this late in the day will do that to you...
Tell me I'm dreaming. People listen to this garbage? Well, their Faux News...
With what the economic outlook is shaping up to be, these Republicans will be run out of America before Obama/Clinton even decide the nomination.
"Man, you know, I thought we were getting somewhere in this country, but this is just a bunch of racial bigots in this country and they still hate blacks and, I mean, if Barack Obama can’t get elected, then we’re never gonna have anybody that’s a black that’s gonna be elected president."
Aren't there many folks out there who've already resigned to this? Isn't this thought to be the status quo?
Black folk will not riot if he is not elected President.
But let something happen to his life. I will be out in the streets with them!
#82 The Dude
No problem Dude, you can't tell that they're holding up my comment. It was from 'Back to the Future'. I'd quote it again but that will just get hung up again. I think it's funny, but the automod must have tripped on a specific word.
well, if obama loses and they do, pass me a molotov and i'm right there alongside them!
c. atrox @ 1:
This is one African-American who won't be rioting in the street if Obama loses, because it makes no sense to tear up stuff that the insurance won't cover.
And the rioting after the acquittal of Rodney King was a picnic compared to the '65 Watts riots, and Black people had a lot more to be pissed off about, too.
http://www.bartleby.com/124/pres31.html
Bush = Lincoln...NOT. The chimp boy king couldn't come up with this if it were tattooed to the inside of his eyelids.
What a rascist fuck!
But what does one expect from the network that brings/brought us oreilly, hannity, shepard, malkin, (until recently, morgan), hume, gibson, and the entire sorry lot?
And what WILL you all do if this election is rigged?
‘Back to the
FührerFuture’Take that automod!
Wonder if he thinks that they ask for 'mutha fucken iced tea'
at Sylvia's too. I think this nut job is Billo's long lost daddy.
Another classic example of rightwing douchebaggery. And this is what passes for political discourse.
Where's Tom's white bed sheet outfit and conical hat?
I think it'll be time for all of us to riot if McCain wins.
If the nomination OR the election is stolen from him, this white woman will be rioting in the streets!
Oh, I highly doubt that anyone, let alone blacks or other people of color, will riot in the streets should Senator Obama lose the Democratic presidential nomination. Yes, there will be some angry shouting, but in the end, they will unify around the Democratic candidate, they will not riot and they will not stay home.
No matter if it is Senator Clinton (my choice) or Senator Obama who wins the Democratic nomination, the Republicans are going to be blown away by the unity our great Democratic Party will show come election day when we drive out the theocratic fascists from the West Wing and gain a filibuster proof majority in the Senate.
Hell hath no fury like a people who wish to take back their government.
[Deleted. Bigotry and advocacy of violence -Sitemonitor]
These Repukelicans are scared to death of Obama because they know he is so much more electable than McLame. And by the way dumb fu##, the L.A. riots were after the Rodney King verdict.
If McCain wins we'll have worse things to worry about than black people marching in the streets...how about another 100 years of war in Iraq...how about an American dollar that's worth little more than asswipe because McCain will continue the tradition of deficit spending to honor the memory of Ronald Reagan...
I don's seem to recall any riots after the OJ verdict. Perhaps he meant the Rodney King trial.
he and his buddies really think Blacks feel that strongly about Obama and this Fake Election!?!?!?!?! LMBruisedAO.....!!!!!!
What do you think Black People ARE? SAVAGES?
It just shows the mindset these a lot of republicans have about people of colour.
Let me tell you something CHUM there are black people who support Hillary as well.
I suspect that these Right Wing folks weren't TOO HAPPY when The story about OBama's pastor came out last week. It came out a LITTLE too early I suspect.
They were saving it for the GE if we had been dumb enough to push him forward.
Now that His chances of being becoming POTUS have all but vanished in the mind of any critical observer, you are now trying to ignite playing the race card.
The fact is the Democrats have to choose the candidate who can PROVE that THEY CAN WIN a general election. With Obama now it is completely OFF THE CARDS. It might be difficult to accept to some diehard supporters, but it is true.
I am sure they WERE WAITING to run against HIM with all the Wright comments about 9-11, Race etc. I can just see them SALIVATING now..
Actually...the people who have a case to pursue some kind of protest are THE 2.6 Million Dems of Florida and Michigan WHO ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING DISENFRANCHISED.
Good Luck East Coast with Tom Sullivan.
He's the finance Nazi.
Have fun with his shit.
We had his ass in Sacramento for long enough. And yet Still he oozes through somehow on KFBK
The fuckin Finance Nazi
excuse my french?
Mistah Sullivan, he dead.
The Propaganda NAZI
We should all riot if the rethuglicans steal another election
What rioting after the OJ verdict?
Can't even get right something that happened so recently?
Just another lunatic from Pravda , also known as Fox news . Scary that these guys actually have an audience but then again about one third of the country still even now supports Bush and thinks he's done just a swell job , I mean shit oh dear ! WTF ? Out of all that's gone down these last seven and one half years , the most shocking to me is just how many absolutley stupid and ignorant Americans there are . Pathetic .
Why doesn't anyone seem concerned about all the white women over 50 who'll be rioting if Hillary doesn't win?
Obama needs to keep fighting back against these repug nutjobs...
He needs an add featuring squeaky clean white supporters of reknown with working class cred voicing support for him. Vicky eisenhower, daughter and scion of Dwight's line and a repuber is supporting him. so is lincoln Chafee one of the few or only repubs who voted against the war....people like this
they should say. he is for all americans.he is not running for pres to give handouts to people who lack personal responsibility. but for all the stand up people who work hard. he is here to make the government work hard for them. to help them keep their jobs. to reward the military families and vets for their sacrifice and bring a sensible and reasoned end to the war..
they should say he is not running for an old divisive america. but an america that treats all people with respect. where everyone accepts and fulfills their responsibilty to themselves, their community, their family and their country and expects the same from their government.
he needs a slew of people like this... respectable and thoughtful people to appear in an ad for him and voice their support openly... so those nitwits who cannot think for themselves will see who the choice of the thoughtful and informed is. and maybe then we can put these non-patriot, black panther, manchurian muslim demons to bed.
I will say that no matter who wins, people will claim fraud or something. Election results can no longer be trusted in this country.
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Tom Sullivan is white and he's talking about a racial issue, so you're automatically portraying him as a racist.
This article on C&L is more racist than anything Tom Sullivan said.
He was just making scientific observations to further the Republican party's interest in facing Hillary instead of Obama. That's not racist. It's partisan and Fox News is terrible, but to suggest that an Obama loss may be likely to cause black rioting like King and Simpson is perfectly reasonable. It's something to consider, maybe even something to anticipate and prepare for.
History indicates that blacks in America are prone to riot when divisive media perceived as "black vs white" doesn't go their way. It's a fact; blacks are the most likely demographic to riot in this sort of event.
How so many of you are unable to see that just boggles my mind. How quickly you all betray logic and reason and bow down to political correctness.
You people are not intellectuals, and you have no imagination whatsoever. You are spoon-fed sheep at war with more of your own kind under a different name. You are idiots.
This is what Tom and his dear friends over a the KKK club say, anyways.......
Thank you, Chris @ 117, for explaining that Tom Sullivan is a scientist, who, like you, can use his powers of logic and reason. Now my ignorance and lack of imagination is made clear to me. If only I had those powers, so I, too, could use 2 "historical indicators" to make generalizations about racially inherent tendencies throughout an entire population. If only I, too, could make "reasonable" racist observations backed up by such solid research. Alas, I'm only a spoon-fed sheep. Thank God for the insanely superior intellect of Chris Hasbrouck.
Oh, I forgot to mention how bad I feel for Tom Sullivan, now that he's a victim of the vile racism perpetrated against him by these comments. It's a tough road for a white guy these days, just trying make a few scientific observations. It's enough to make one want to riot. But in a perfectly reasonable manner.
madrone @ 119:
Yeah, because everybody knows that the best people to make "scientific" and impartial observations regarding racial issues is a middle aged, wealthy white ex-accountant turned conservative radio/TV host.
"FOXNews’ Tom Sullivan: Blacks Will Riot If Obama Loses" Now that's racism! Way to show your true colors Faux Patriots.
Glenn Beck, or someone on his show said the same racist thing...
Someone ought to riot, and about a lot of things too.
i live in l.a. and i don't remember blacks rioting after the oj trial. whites maybe.
well if there are Riots, maybe they'll come after you...
glenn beck said the same thing on his cnn show. riots if obama looses. or in other words, be afraid white people. one more attempt to win with fear.
Well ladies and gentlemen what we have here is another bigot hope for the worst.
Um...Tom, Becky boy...
'Blacks' won't be the only ones....doing it...if McBush 'wins'...
Chris Hasbrouck @ 117:
No, it is not perfectly reasonable since the only riot took place in L.A. after the verdict acquitting those who beat Rodney King--it was not throughout the nation-- and it was a multi-racial riot. The breakdown is like this: 13% white, 25% black, and 60% Latino. Most importantly however, there were NO riots after OJ Simpson was acquitted.
Now we see that not only are you as unreasonable as Tom Sullivan, but you're also an idiot.
Zenrage @ 39:
Well said!
Tom Sullivan=douchebag.
I'm frustrated by all of this, I mean the comments above mainly. Though I understand how people could find his remarks inflammatory simply because of who he is, Sullivan stated something that is based on fear. Real or not, it is fear. Senator Obama, himself, stated this fear in his remarks when he talked about his grandmother. He gets it. He understands it. He made further remarks yesterday to clarify what he said. He wants a dialogue opened to reverse this ingrained thinking.
The comments I am reading here are not part of a dialogue. They are as incendiary as Sullivan's in tone, even more so in some cases. They are fanning the flames of bigotry by making it more difficult to have a discourse on an issue that has been in existence for centuries and been percolating even more in the past 40 years. It's not okay to be a fanatic. Fanatics redouble their efforts and forget their purpose.
This fear is exactly what we need to be talking about. Where does this fear come from? How do we get rid of it? What steps can we take to allay the fear? Do you know a person of color other than seeing him/her on the street or at work? What is it that people of color fear about whites? Can we turn the things that Sullivan and others like him say into a point of refutation to make them talk instead of pointing fingers and stereotyping?
I've been waiting a long time for this dialogue, longer than Mr. Obama. if both sides of this issue don't shut up and start listening, I'll be waiting even longer...
And furthermore Tommy, us negroes didn't riot in the streets after the O.J. trial. The riots occurred after the Rodney King verdict in 1992. Ignorance=Racist.
Tom Sullivan needs to be told to shut up.
The media is trying to control us again! After Gore's loss we were told to listen to the quiet streets by some media hack (a big name guy-I was watching said it, and it was echoed several times) because Americans wouldn't riot!!! Well I wanted to and we should have-Blacks were totally disenfranchised in Florida-blacks were targeted then and will be again-their votes probably won't count again-all of us should have rioted like crazy and taken the white house for Gore!
I've been hearing RACE CARDING shit like this on talk radio for over twenty years.
Chris Hasbrouck @ 117:
You're the real idiot, with your condescending, arrogant viewpoint. And spare us your simplistic and jaded view of "history" which had no connection to reality.
Dunno. If Hillary steals it, it could be the first Rainbow Coalition riot. Which in the old terminology used to be called "class". Which raises the question, do the rich really taste like pork?
JEN @ 136:
Yup...my European friends ask me why we didn't march on DC at the first sign of election fraud...I told them, Americans were too busy, being lazy, complacent, tv zombies, to do anything like, oh I dunno, save our country from fascists.
Tom brings integrity, life experience, intellect and likeability, as a benchmark of his show.
When I first read this I thought it said,
Tom brings integrity, life experience, intellect and likeability, the benchmark is low.
If Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee--which I pray is the case--and he loses to McCain in the general election, I believe Americans of all ethnicities would riot. He may be right about this (Tom), but just not accurate about the diversity of the rioters.
I would riot!
The theft of three elections in row just seems like too much, even for Americans.
I'll join the rioters if Obama loses. If Obama wins, I'll riot on the crackers who riot. It'll be like that song by Da Lynch Mob.
"Blacks Will Riot If Obama Loses"
That is possible.
They have rioted in the past when greatly upset and and Obama loss would upset them greatly.
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