Wronger than Wrong: Fred Kagan decrees "civil war in Iraq is over"
By SilentPatriot Wednesday Mar 26, 2008 8:40pm
Just when you thought war cheerleaders couldn't get any more deluded, Fred Kagan comes through in the clutch.
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The first thing I want to say is that: The Civil War in Iraq is over. And until the American domestic political debate catches up with that fact, we are going to have a very hard time discussing Iraq on the basis of reality.
The hilarity of this absurd statement is self-evident and requires little elaboration. But if one is so inclined, I'll let Glenn take it away:
Less than 24 hours after Kagan decreed the Civil War in Iraq over -- and lectured Americans that we must accept this if we are to understand reality in Iraq -- McClatchy News Service reported:
With Iraq's top leaders directing the battle, Iraq's army and national police pressed a major operation Tuesday to wrest control of the southern port city of Basra from the Shiite Mahdi Army militia. Fighting between government forces and the militia quickly spread through Iraq's south and into Baghdad.
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Over? I didn't think that one even started! Remember Bush told us that the Iraqis chose NOT to have a civil war, so how could something that didn't start be over?
HOW could he say this? has been watching any of what we see everyday- we should send him to the Green Zone and leave him there...
Since when are the folks at AEI concerned about discussing Iraq on the basis of reality?
ALL of the neocons are lying ALL of the time - every day.
The media let's them get away with it - because they own / control the media.
Welcome to the fascist dictatorship.
AEI = Israel
How can this not be true , he looks so smart .
Dip s*&t.
Yeah, well Fred Kagan is a proven liar when it comes to Iraq and the surge as seen in this FRED KAGAN VIDEO MASHUP
And really, what bears out Kagan's claims more than this story?
Iraqi police in Basra shed their uniforms, kept their rifles and switched sides
Or this?
Areas of Baghdad fall to militias as Iraqi Army falters in Basra
Kagan really needs to pull his deluded head out of his chickenhawk ass.
*thud*
Whoops...dropped my jaw.
Mission Accomplished, eh Kag-ee-babes?
nony @ 4:
The same group claims that racism, sexism, and almost all social problems are also over. One of my favorites was Bill "Riverboat" Bennett's famous statement from his time as Drug Czar in the '80s. He said that we've won the drug war. Look how well that has turned out.
JWF:
GHW Bush won the drug war. He's using his CIA jets to import all he can sell.
What morons listen to this buffon? Its like the nazi party properganda towards the collapse of germany .
hell the nazis had old men and kids as young as 12 out in the berlin trenches shooting and dying for a wacked cause.
This war now,,its about oil. I think the dillwad is afraid alot of contractors will pull out and put thier money elsewhere,, say,, yanno other free countries,, china,, for one,, russia, etc.
Fred Kagan aka NEWMAN from seinfeld,, if its so great over there,, then haul your large happy happy joy joy ass there and stay there and report back!
Unbelievably delusional. They see black and cry "White!"
What in the name of God is wrong with these people??
And they actually pay this clown to say this crap?
In another unfortunate case of premature Iraq elation, the Wall Street Journal last week celebrated the decline and fall of Iraqi Shiite leader Moqtada Al-Sadr. Echoing the "bring 'em on" taunt of their former boss, ex-Bush advisers Dan Senor and Roman Martinez triumphantly asked "Whatever Happened to Moqtada?" But as the renewed turmoil in Baghdad and violent chaos in Basra suggest, the answer may be, "he's back."
For the details, see:
"Moqtada Al-Sadr Answers the Wall Street Journal."
Id like to personaly soak the phone book in water, semi dry it and then Hit fred around the face and large hanging fat lats!
This type of person is out for one thing and one thing only,, his crispy kream and his pension! Man tits need not speak for anything then the better treatment for whales!
Both are combined.
Fred is such an expert on war -- didn't he lead a charge and personally kill 43 of the enemy with his bayonet? No, wait, that was Frederick G. I. Issue who is less valuable than Fred Kagan, and therefore a soldier while Fred serves as a war expert.
and good night C&L folks.
have a good eveing and great tomorow and welcome the weekend !
Regards,,
Kagen is the same loon that came up with the "surge" strategy at AEI to begin with. There is no way in Hell, an extra 30,000-40,000 troops could prevent a civil war and Kagen knows it. I mean, no 30,000 or 40,000 are that good!
The civil war, ethnic cleansing, or whatever you want to call it has always been there and more than likely always will be. To much bad blood lays between those Iraqi factions and nothing is ever going to change that and it sure as Hell won't prevent them from fighting.
We are supposed to believe the armchair ranting of an effete, pasty-faced, limp-wristed dweeb like Kagan?
Why do these guys continue to have access to the airways? They are never right. You'd think they would get it right ocassionally simply by luck, but somehow they don't even do that.
I was wondering who this sweaty fat guy was spouting bullsheet on cspan.
Now it makes sense.
Never before have I seen an Administration hire and keep so many morons, fools, imbeciles, or just plain incompetent people all in one place.
break up the media monopolies. your freedom depends on it.
Well then lets bring the kids home then, mission accomplished.
Fred Kagan, 2nd stupidest f**king guy on the planet.
Have any of the Kagans ever been even close to right about anything? I mean have they ever even inhabited the same universe as reality?
NPR reported this morning that the Police in Basra RAN AWAY when hostilities started.
I'm sure, tho, that Al Maliki's threats will result in peacification and brotherly love in the atmospheres surrounding the Iraqs. Just ask any of the Miss America contestants... or Bushies at the White House.
Do you think that McCain will declare VICTORY over the SURGE... now that active hostilities have re-emerged in several cities? Here's a suggestion for his campaign:
Maybe we should send in another THIRTY THOUSAND TROOPS... to supress the fighting... and buy some time for the Iraqi's to find a political solution to their little problem. We'll know for sure in six to nine months how that will work out.
Can someone post the link the the original video?
If the civil war in Iraq is over, it is simply because the civilian population has been annihilated. This fat pig of a Fascist war criminal needs his goddamned neck stretched.
CowboyBob in Austin @ 30:
For John McCain, good luck finding those extra troops laying around with nothing to do because they do not exist. The ground forces are tapped out given their current commitments around the globe. The only other option is to get the draft started. If that happens, watch how fast the war supporters run. We might just see a reverse emigration issue with the Mexican Government saying to the war supporters: "Go home Gringo!"
nony @ 13:
This is a FACT that needs to be shouted from the rooftops every hour on the hour!
Oh and as for that tub of shit coward douchebag from the AEI...
Ship that mental twat to the front lines!
SURE, and the econonomy is doing great!
Denali @ 1:
Clearly, you haven't learned to think in the neo-con dialectic. :)
Joe O. @ 25:
its a cunning ploy to make Chimpy look good, alas it never seemed to work.
who is this fat fuck anyway?
Can someone check whether Kagan has admitted in the past that Iraq is undergoing a civil war?
Thanks.
The Iraqi civil war is over huh?
Tell that to the Iraqi's.
Cause we know better.
Has anyone of these people read any newspapers recently?
Mike the Canuck @ 39:
one of our all knowing all powerful 'Lords and Masters' remember his face, it will look so sad come November 8th.
Mike the Canuck @ 39:
That is the neocon version of a weatherman. He gets up on t.v. and says it Iraq will be partly "Sunni" with patches of "Shia" showers in between but when you look at the newspapers you see a full blown sand storm blowing that has always been there.
... thanks, fred.
The civil war is over? Did the magic ponies stop it?
Well, obviously [snark] the Left lost Vietnam, and if the Left doesn't shut up, the Left will be to blame for "losing" Iraq. That's what this is about: Blaming the Left. It's not that they are stupid - it's that they are at war. (With the Left.)
OK, well actually, they are pretty stupid if they think this will work.
How about we take this A-Hole and move his office to Bagdad
and tell him he can't come home utill it's fixed
idiot
With their integrity in shreds, republican liars have nothing left to lose. Why not let it all hang out?
Lefty @ 45:
No, unfortunately, the Pentagon's shipment of magic ponies was mistakenly sent to Taiwan, along with nuclear missile parts. That's why embassy personnel inside the Green Zone are being told to stay inside reinforced buildings. Apparently Iraqis want to kill them. Go figure.
They should find out what he is smoking
start selling it on the street to pay for
this stupid Evangelical Crusade that BUSH
started Don't forget he talks to god but whats worst
is he think's god speaks to him.
ooooooooooOOOOOhhhHHH
Don't they know we can see them? Aren't they aware of what those big dealies with the lenses do?
When will they learn that just because they say it, IT ISN'T TRUE?!
thanks, I wonder what he thinks of afganistan. Where Canada has a large contingent of soldiers fighting with NATO. If there's no war there then WTF is Canada doing fighting and dying there
nony @ 13:
yes, the ones that landed at Mena, AR, or so I hear.
Mike the Canuck @ 52:
Cheney, "So!"
ungrateful dead @ 44:
I read Kagen's strategy when it was first posted and even the title struck me as amateurish. After all, one does not choose to obtain something that hasn't already been clearly defined. The last portion of his so called "strategy" was simple rhetoric and idealism. Devoid of any real action. Its a no wonder that Bush selected Kagen's option. He is the further thing from a Sun Tzu as anyone can find.
Can you belive this sh*t they can't handel Bagdad
So what the fu*k let's take on Iran can't get any worse
that the pile there in now.
They think they can win this how can tou defeat someone
that is willing to strap on a bomb and walk into a mall and
blow himself up along with everybody around for 72 VIRGINS
stupid fu*k's one slut work's for me
Uh...Otay.
bah.
iran's been going after the shatt al' arab waterway in basra ever since the iran-iraq war. here's their chance.
sadr's militia doesn't listen to sadr anymore they take orders from the younger hotheads.
and the green zone diplo's all play huddle in the bunker games.
thank you chimpy.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23788065
civil war is over huh?
Agent Hussein Provocateur @ 59:
:) I was hesitant to say exactly that.
Shrimp and white wine!!!
Does anyone take this Fat Ass seriously on any subject other than the best way to shove a red hot poker up his ass.
Pasty Fred, are you talking about the civil war that the Bush Media Complex spent the last 4 years saying wasn't under way?
That civil war?
-GSD
I don't care if the man thinks the earth is flat. Bottom line is Iraq is an impossible situation
Iraq is a lot like Palestine and Israel, those two have been fighting off and on forever.
Iraq is worse because there are more than two ethnic groups that can't get along.
Only a dictator can rule that part of the world.
The Iraq invasion was a huge blunder and a crime. Attacking and killing people of another country that didn't attack us or threaten us is criminal.
I think he meens realityness.
I noticed the AEI backdrop and thought, they need to change the name of their outfit from American Enterprise Institute to Artificial Environment Institute. They just keep creating their own reality as they go along, so it just makes sense.
lafingas @ 65:
MEANS
He's an idiot. WE know he's an idiot. The American idiots will gobble up his shit and begin to repeat it in earnest.
We are a nation of idiots.
I have some shit to sell. Believe me, it is GOOD SHIT! Fresh too, made of all natural ingredients and very aroumatic. Usually i can crank out at least one a day, but on a busy day i can come up with five or six. If you love shit contact me and for the low price of Universal Health Care, a working and functioning economy, 4,000 brave American lives i can give you all the shit you want!
(side effects include insurmountable national debt, disgrace in the eyes of the world, uncounted dead civilians and listening to people lie to you day and night.)
I hear they're shooting fireworks into the greenzone in celebration of this victory. Fred is a worthless tub of mayo.
Well folks, I'm going to bed. I've seen enough incompetence and Baghdad Bob type of lies for one day. Who knows, tomorrow we might find out that Bush has appointed Sesame Street's Big Bird as his new national security adviser.
xoites Hussein (non typical white person) defends Constitution @ 69:
That's wierd! There's an old guy running for president who has the same bowel problems. And he's selling his shit too.
Why does this man direct the nation's military?
This is a nation of brave men and heroes!
How low have we sunk!
OK freddy k, take that big fat ass of yours to iraq
and prove your point. please please go shopping
in any neighborhood in iraq. and btw, don't take
any of our brave soldiers with you, we don't want
to waste any of them to protect your fat head sitting
on that fat neck of yours. you are a piece of shit.
King of Kings @ 73:
The real question is: How low will we sink?
If we don't get up off our asses we just may find out.
Kagan’s comments remind me of nothing so much as Baghdad Bob and his ever-entertaining fabrications (like: "Nobody came here. Those America losers, I think their repeated frequent lies are bringing them down very rapidly.... Baghdad is secure, is safe.") The AEI should get Fallujah Fred and Baghdad Bob on stage together but perhaps they are unable to see the entertainment value of such a comedy duo.
Perhaps the real question here is: Did we really lose the war on drugs this badly?
I think I see where John Hodgman got his "resident expert" shtick.
Dear Mr. Kagan,
We've been winning the war in Iraq for five years and the war in Afghanistan for 7 years. After all this winning, shouldn't we have won by now?
I have a friend who since 9/11 has said one thing over and over again, "These people are out of their fucking minds."
Impossible to argue with.
News from the ground: http://www.roadstoiraq.com/ or: http://arablinks.blogspot.com/
Soon we are going to get a letter from the armed forces
saying we quit,
How many times can you send them back into this
Don't forget are leaders never went to war
remember BUSH saying it must be romantic
And Chainy when asked about the 4000 KIA mark
they are volunteers.
1959
Cheney, a Yale student, turns 18 and becomes eligible for the draft.
1962
FEBRUARY: Cheney was classified as 1-A, available for military service.
NOVEMBER 19: Cheney is arrested for drunk driving.
1963
MARCH 20: Cheney applies for his first student draft deferment.
JULY 23: Cheney applies for his second draft deferment
after enrolling at the University of Wyoming.
1964
OCTOBER 14: Cheney applies for his third student draft deferment.
By now the Vietnam war has escalated following the Gulf of Tonkin resolution.
Cheney marries his high school sweetheart, Lynne.
1965
NOVEMBER 1: Cheney gets his fourth draft deferment.
Cheney graduates and is once more listed as 1-A, ready for military service.
1966
JANUARY 19: When his wife was about 10 weeks pregnant,
Cheney applies for 3-A status, the ''hardship'' exemption,
which excludes men with children or dependent parents. It is granted.
1967
JANUARY: Cheney turns 26 and is no longer eligible for the draft.
And of course we all know what BUSHY did except 1972 when he vanished.
King of Kings @ 73:
By the way, George Bush said today that the resurgence of violence was a positive sign.
Can we get an AMEN!
I mean doesn't violence mean the surge is working?
xoites Hussein (non typical white person) defends Constitution @ 83:
Yes, as soon as the Bushies figure out what the "surge is working" means!
Mr. Kagan would also like you to know that blood is no longer red, it is green. So you aren't seeing blood.
Leslie @ 79:
McPetrafiedWood (corporate media's number one choice!) wants to win it for 100 years.
Dennis @ 82:
The prison i envision for this man post election includes no defferments.
StirFry @ 86:
No, only until McCain turns 100.
Dennis @ 82:
The same year they started drug testing the TANG pilots.
Boy Wonder lost his wings for being unable to judge his landings without making the controllers crap in the tower.
I hear he's being forced to land the plane next January, but maybe McCain't will bring a shovel.
This guy does not even have to open his mouth. His face has dumb written all over it.
I'd like to see this idiot go shopping in an open market in Basra with Bomb Bomb McCain next week.
nony @ 5:
Right, we really need to stop Israel running our foreign policy.
Hear that Joementum?
Friar Tuck @ 18:
*tea-spit*
dammit! now I gotta wipe my whole work area.
:<[)
my cousin is on his FIFTH TOUR!
fuck kagan and whoever the fuck thinks it's ok!
Mike the Canuck @ 52:
just be thankfull that the britts arent leading your troops anymore!
Look, the civil war, which never happened, is now over! You guys just have to accept that! I know you all wanted to see us defeated, but those are the facts on the ground and we're listening to the generals and making the good progress.
Oh, what's that you say? Total fucking sectarian meltdown in progress? Good! That just shows that the last few dead enders are getting desperate! We'll have this thing contained in no time!
I'm thinking, maybe, another six months or so?
simple rule of thumb
never take a man seriously who has....NO FUCKING NECK
what a fat, disgusting slob...
BaScOmBe whose saying “NO REPUGS” @ 94:
I'd pay good money to see you and Kagan step into the cage.
Wow that is amazing! ...and wouldn't you know it I just stopped needing gravity to keep me from floating into space.
What an idiot.
Kagan is a prominent neocon. He's worried about their agenda being derailed - of course he's going to go out and lie about Iraq. They aren't ready go give up power yet.
The PNAC - just another old, rich, white men-only club.
*
I Guess Kagan just didn't get the memo!
Well speaking of Canada at least thier reporter's
don;t have to suck up to BUSH and report it as it is.
The Lies that Led to War
Now, as the White House warns about the latest threat in the region,
this time from Iran,
Examine the deception, suspect intelligence, even lies
that convinced the world of the rightness of targeting
Saddam Hussein.
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/lies/video.html
So if the "war" is over, bring the troops home NOW!!!
Out of Iraq or Impeachment, those are your only choices.
This piece by Joshua Holland at Alternet lets you know just how deranged and consistently wrong Kagan is. It is well worth the read. Isn't it time to send Kagan to the Hague with the rest of the former and current executive branch?
whoops. Here's the J. Holland link:
www.alternet.org/waroniraq/80580/
Not only is there a civil war but Australian media report today, the American troops have had to move in and support the Iraq army, because they are so bloody useless they don't know what they are doing.
What has Bush and Cheney got on the American mainstream media, they are too frightened to tell it like it is. Its expected Fox will distort the truth, but what happened to the good ole free press. Publish and be damned.
Inquiring minds want to know: "Why do all of these war-mongering fools look alike?"
Wow, the civil war in Iraq is over! How much money did we spend on the Slurpge again? Great, where would you like us to throw taxpayer dollars next! I can't wait!!!
well, the shiites are fighting each other now... it's not sunni vs shiite in this case.
i'd heard that it's not so much a battle between religions anymore, but between federalists and separatists, which cross sectarian boundaries. not sure about that, but there's no doubt that this fight is between shiite factions.
the kicker is, we're backing the pro-iranian faction. al-sadr is anti-iranian (heavily nationalist; against all external influence/meddling in his country).
I will be glad to contribute to a fund to pay for Kagan to fly to Iraq, rent a car, and drive around the country now that the civil war has ended and the country apparently is now at peace.
Fellow contributors can share in the proceeds of the life insurance policy that will be taken out if, just in case, he is wrong.
Fred Kagan is over paid. I know lots of qualified Janitors that have a better grasp on the realities of Iraq than Kagan.
The heritage Foundation or the Cato institute needs to recall Kagan.
It's like a science fiction movie ain't it ? Reminds me of the twilight zone series . Yeah I know , I'm old .
I was sure that this yo-yo had obviously sold his soul to Satan. But then I remembered that I was the one who had sold my soul to Satan, and I had never seen him [Fred] at any of the meetings. I feel so silly because, needless to say, the Prince of Darkness hates when his minions look silly. Jeepers . . . I'm sure glad I caught myself before it was too late.
When/if Obama takes the troops out of Iraq, the pro-war people will say, "We were winning, but the Democrats spoilt everything."
The Democrats should emphatically preempt that argument somehow.
.
When Kagan starts accepting reality, as liberal as it is, and begins to address issues honestly, THEN I'll listen.
Until then, what is his credibility worth... ZERO?
.
What he meant to say was that until the facts catch up we intend to poison the political debate with these sorts of lies.
Perhaps he should be called comical Freddie
Here's a simple question to help everyone determine Kagan's credibility. Look at his pic and then ask yourself--- would any of you boink him? I make my point. :D
Someone better tell the shiites and sunnis in sadr city they seem to think the civil war is still on . Oh wait bush said there is no civil war I am so confused.
When are these a**wipes going to realize the Muslims have been fighting among themselves for over 1,300 years and just because Fred Kagen, George Bush, and all the other delusional neo con leaders and followers think the U. S. war machine is capable of ending it doesn't make it so.
Joe O. @ 43:
"JoeO"
Thanks for the explanation.
OK. Let's review. The Sunnis think that the Shi'ites are heretics, and the Shi'ites hate the Sunnis for thinking that. They hate each others' guts. Worse than Protestants and Catholics in Ireland years ago. So I guess a few thousand extra troops took care of Centures of Hatred. Yeah, right! What will he be peddling next?
We could be there for 100 years. They will hate us as much as they hate each other. During those 100 years they'll be killing us as well as each other. As soon as we leave, they'll be at each others' necks. There isn't a political or military solution to this problem. The world isn't big enough for both of them.
Words cannot express the intense loathing that I feel for this bespectacled, porcine fuckface who - under anything resembling normal circumstances - would be in his mother's basement playing Dungeons and Dragons, not harming anyone. Instead, he is responsible for the intensification of the war, and moves little men around a map like they were toy soldiers, never concerning himself with the massive death and destruction his policies have wrought.
Boy, I'd like to find him in a dark alley someday . . . and I don't feel that way about many people (except Dick Cheney and Karl Rove).
Leslie @ 88:
"Leslie"
In answer to you question.
Some one in the White House, Pentagon or CIA thought it was a good idea to bribe some of these Sunni's and Shia's several billion dollars to stop fighting.
Now what are those Iraqis going to do with all that money ?
Go to Disney World ? Go skiing in Switzerland ? Go on vacation in Thailand?
NO.
They went out and bought weapons including missiles, some of which are probably American made. There is a huge world wide weapons market and the sellers know what they are doing.
So the war has not been won by now because whoever is manageing the program is totally incompetent.
Well, its great to know that couch potato idealogues have everything under control. I feel better.
Caption:
"Dude, I totally rolled a 20 on my "end the civil war" savings throw. Seriously dude, its over, and if I roll double 0 on percentile dice they'll make me the king of the sunnis. Yeah, for real dude, thats a serious status boost for my character."
Until Fred is willing to admit that he is mentally ill, reality will continue to evade him.
First....ANYONE WITH THE BANNER OF A-E-I behind them is a career bull$hitter who makes the tobacco PR firm boys look like Mother Theresa....
Second....He's full of something and its not the product his organization kills for...
Better yet: Would anyone seriously take military advice from this tub of goo?
I knew it!The Iraqi "army" does what it damn well pleases. Things get a little rough and these peices of shit throw down their rifles and head for home.Ha,ha. Some fucked up army.I wouldn't want to be in Al-maliki's shoe's right now.If things keep going the way they are now, he's looking at the same fate Saddam faced-a good ol' neck stretching.Adios fuck-head!
bilhelm-hussein-X @ 108:
Anywhere but at the american people who paid those taxes (unless they are millionaires). That would be "socialism".
It's always the soft, pudgy, pasty white guys that have never been near a battle field who seem to know so much about war yet wrong about everything.
me @ 15:
They are afraid.
bubba @ 126:
How DARE you sully D&D by implying that Kagan played it.
I played D&D, and everyone I know who played, wasn't anywhere NEAR as assholey as Kagan...ok well except for that one guy who always wanted to be DM...he was a prick.
How precisely to morons of this caliber end up in power/on TV? It's like watching Barney Fife with his one fucking bullet.
E in MD @ 135:
At least Barney Fife was funny...this shit is fucking tragic!
How does a pasty tub of white goo with a PhD in Russian Military history get to be a "military expert" on Iraq?
He doesn't even look like he can dress himself without some kind of legacy endowment....
he gets paid for this+
So we funded and trained an army that is now engaged in ethnic cleansing with the 'Coalition' backing them up. We once fought genocide now we foment it. If you can't beat 'em join 'em? I have never been less proud to be an American. I am ashamed.
If this Hillbama primary debacle does not stop then we are all doomed. I'm not convinced that rule under Hillbama will be any better but it seems to be our only hope. Get it together Dems. The US and Iraq and the world need you to win this election if there is to be any chance that America will steer itself toward sanity, morality and the rule of law.
tr @ 26:
You got that right. But our politicians' careers depend on it, so that's not likely to happen.
We're watching the decline and fall of the United States.
Actually, he's right- the war is almost over. The thing is, it's the insurgents who are winning.
This guy lacks even that minimal amount of sense that it takes to be embarrassed. The cretins who allowed this guy a forum, which thereby lent him a gravitas he does not merit, should be fired.
I think the Iraqi insurgents and factions have a simple response to Kagan...it goes something like this.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....BOOOOOOOOOOOOOM....ratatatatatatatatat....Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...BOOOOOOOOOOOOM.....BOOOOOOOOOOOOM...ratatatatatatata....INCOMINGGGGGGGGGGGG.....Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...BOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
me @ 140:
I'll be DAMNED! We CAN fix OUR country, we MUST fix OUR country, WE WILL FIX OUR COUNTRY!
There simply are NO OTHER OPTIONS!
It won't be easy, quick, or painless...but we will fix it! Don't give up!
Kagan, he takes orders from boss Israel. It's then no lies,if that's what the boss wants!
Hey. Let's send Fred Kagan over there to negotiate the surrender.
He's obviously the man for the job. Maybe he can get it so we don't have to continue
to pay $10.00 a day per fighter for the phony peace brought about by the surge.
"Wronger than Wrong: Fred Kagan decrees 'civil war in Iraq is over.'"
Oh, you mean now they'll get nasty?
me @ 15:
Ruthless Last Throes People @ 132:
Wow, you just described me.
Well then... I for one am looking forward to Fredie's internet travelogue as he bicycles around the likes of Basra.
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