TIME: Can FOX News Survive Post-Bush?
We can dream, can't we?
TIME:
You could say the same thing lately for Fox News Channel itself. Fox hasn't gone soft, but from watching its coverage lately, I get a sense that the haven for conservative hosts, and viewers alienated by liberal news, needs to figure out its next act. Fox News is not simply a mouthpiece for the Bush White House: it rose with Bush after 2000 and 9/11, was played on TVs in his White House and reflected the same surety and flag-lapel-pin confidence in its tone and star-spangled look. It was not just a hit; it was the network of the moment.
Now, with two Democrats locked in what seems like a general-election campaign and lame-duck Bush fading from the headlines, it has to figure out how not to seem like yesterday's news. At times recently, the network has appeared uncertain about its focus. Its primary-night coverage has felt staid and listless. Sometimes it has gone tabloid with celebrity-news, true-crime and scandal stories (WEBSITES POSTING SEXY PICS LIFTED FROM FACEBOOK). At other times it has retreated into a kind of war-on-terrorism news-talgia, playing up threatening chatter and new missives from al-Qaeda leaders while its rivals are doing the election 24/7; flipping to Fox can feel like time-traveling to 2002.
No doubt faux will deal with it in their usual "intelligent" way. Some publicity stunts. Some well placed lies. A few almost-but-not-quite pseudo apologies and then right on into bashing which ever dem wins the nomination and should that dem win the whore um.. white house then faux will re-assume it's place as basher-in-chief of all things dem and probably attempt to take up the stance of 'underdog' in a world gone liberally mad and they the only ones left to save humanity with their reich wing infotainment.
Personally I hope someone shoots it like a rabid dog and buries the carcass in a cow field somewhere.
TIME and all the other news outlets that talk about FOX keep forgetting the one major factor of Fox's success: their viewers have nowhere else to go. FOX spins the lies they want to hear, that the war is justified and going well, that the economy will be bullish and that GWB is a genius. They provide the cocoon that the Bush/Cheney delusionals need to get through the day. Because of the absence of a Fairness Doctrine, FOX can say whatever it wants without consequence, so they are able to lie through their teeth about the state of affairs, just like Limbaugh and the rest. These people are not interested in hearing the truth - they only want to hear that their opinions are the right opinions and that everyone on the network agrees with them. It's just like Bush/Cheney only appearing before crowds of supporters - they cannot deal with someone with a dissenting opinion who may ask a question that may burst the bubble of fantasy they have worked so hard to create. The rest of the MSM is bad enough, but FOX is the crowning jewel of journalistic delusion. That is why they are successful. And when the conservative house of cards comes tumbling down, and the loyal acolytes must finally face the reality of our country being raped by Bush/Cheney and their minions, then the FOX viewers will have to wake up to that cruel reality of being wrong for so many, many years in so many, many ways.
Fox News is a sinking ship, and the lifeboats are missing.
Well my guess is that they will revert to their past Clinton-bashing days. Fox will turn into a 24/7 I hate "insert new Democratic president's name here." Unlike Bush's constant malapropisms that the media has generally ignored for the past 7 years, ever single negative or potentially negative nuance will be used against the next president. "Clinton uses wrong salad fork at United Nations Dinner - can the U.S. survive this scandal. Is Obama's past drug use impairing his ability to fight terrorism and keep our kids safe. Clinton's shoes did not match her dress - is this a signal to socialist France that we are weak on terrorism. Obama kills Osama - is this just another wag the dog action by this incompetent administration."
The real problem for Fox will be in advertising revenue. As with the donations pouring in to Clinton and Obama my guess is that advertising dollars will eventually start to be pulled in favor of more image friendly television. That is what will kill the network.
It seems to me that the 27-30% core morons who lap up everything that Faux News spits out aren't going to stop watching the teevee. I agree with crush on the direction of their programming. Will they buy enough clappers and salad spinners to keep 'em afloat? I'm afraid that they probably will.
Like an aging cheerleader, who never learned to adapt. I'm sure they'll be perfectly happy sabotaging every liberal initiative, and anything that makes big business accountable.
I don't care what kill's (FOX) but it will be sweet.
BillO on the welfair line
Hannity's insanity back to radio taking calls from Hal from north Burgen.
And the bitter bitch's working the streets.
And my anger level returning back to a good level.
I can only hope that the others also return to doing the job of the press
and report the news instead of trying to out do (FOX) in the stupidity level
It is time to stop the fear and stop the BUSH Propaganda please.
Truth in the news will be a welcome sign.
There is a poll on the TIMES newspaper site about Iraq. Take a look. Currently 81% are saying it wasn't worth it.
Go here:
http://timesnews.typepad.com/news/2008/03/iraq-war-poll-2.html
No worries mates, FOX will be fine and likely benefit from a Dem in the White House. What will be fun to watch though will be their transmorgification from a channel that reports "through an American prism" to a talk radio style bitch forum for putrid right wing idealogies.
The Rush, Sean, Laura, Bill, etc. denizens will still isolate FOX on their remotes and get the day's last fix of hate against alternative view Americans. Already Glen Beck's radio show is a non-stop attack forum against Obama, and FOX will morph into the same.
Let's face it, hate sells and there's a huge market for it still. Until sponsors stop supporting FOX propaganda it will continue. Carry on...
It is my understanding that under the Thatcher years Murdoch's media outlets were equally biased and out of touch, yet when there was change in party leadership ie; Prime Minister and Parliament, He changed his news organizations to take the new party lines immediately, and I'm certain the same would happen here. He is just a businessman with no sense of responsibility. I know it sucks.
It'll survive; cockroches have a tendency to do that, y'know.
*cockroaches
::sigh::
YEA!
Fearless prediction: If a Democrat wins the presidency in November, Murdoch will sell or close the New York Post. It has been losing money since he bought it (it must be hundreds of millions by now) and features keep disappearing. (Praise the gods that it still carries Mallard Fillmore, or we wouldn't have a daily reminder of how lame right-wing humor is.) And now Murdoch has the Wall Street Journal. He doesn't need the Post any more.
Mornin troops!
If Fox news does go down in a flaming, stinking heap...doesn't really matter to me, I don't watch that garbage anyway...BUT!!! Seeing the talking heads who have spewed forth lies and hate for the last 7-8 years, scramble for relevance and recognition, not to mention a paycheck, will be fun to watch. I personally hope BOR and the rest of the reichwing propagandist assholes, get so frustrated from nobody listening to them anymore, they have an aneurism (SP?) and keel over dead. That would be sweet sweet justice in my book.
OK..gonna go get me some breakfast...be right back folks!
They can always become the second full-time cartoon channel !!
They already have all the 'talent' they need and can be beamed directly into the stalls at the pig farm in crawford....
RobNYNY @ 14:
Another fearless prediction: A television and media critic at Fox News has infinitely better long-term employment prospects than a television and media critic at Time Magazine does. Every day there are articles in the business dailies how dire the situation is in the print industry.
My guess is the author of this wishful thinking hit piece by James Poniewozak (who???) has the Time Mazazine severance policy completely memorized.
Nothing is going to happen to fox. Sorry, but that is just wishful thinking. The moment a democrat comes to power it will be 24 hrs democrat bashing. They will hit the jackpot if it is Hillary. With Obama they will analyze every word, every action and scrutanize every decision. Vermin like fox never go away. There is always a market for hatred!
There will still be a market for weak-minded, morally deficient slobs who are fed the crap that they want to hear from FOX about how "special" they are, because they are Americans and America is so pure and America is so great and America is so much better than anywhere else and as long as you wear your American flag lapel pin you are part of the superior American race.
Of course if Obama or Hillary make more of us proud of America on a truthful, morally elevated basis (which they will if elected), maybe some of those FOX slobs will wake up. We can dream can't we!
Fox - how wrong can they be?
Fox Sports alone predicted Memphis would lose last night to Mich. State
It was a mismatch from the start.
Fox - now even stupider.
Hypothetically, if say a Democrat wins the White House and retains or even gains seats in the House and Senate I can see only one way for Fox News to go. They will have to become a 24/7 attack news outlet. They do that now, but currently they also paint everything that the Bush Administration or every Republican remaining in Government for that matter in a rosey light. With the Bush Administration gone, that will have to change. In fact, we may even see Fox News move to a more extremist viewpoint if that can be imagined.
fux ain't going anywhere. Murdoch demonized two australian prime ministers and with the prospect of a dem, especially a 'minority', fux will ramp up the hatred. murdoch has too much invested in the protofascist infrastructure to simply disappear. the last four years of b.clinton will be a cakewalk by comparison. and let's not forget that the ge, disney and cia networks are part of this and have gone to great lengths to compete with fux in the lying, shit-flinging arena.
The biggest test will be whether Stewart, Maher, Colbert and Olberman offer fair criticism and remain viable.
Who says a Dem is going to win the WhiteHouse though? Unless something drastic happens, the media is already coronating StMcCain and all the polls show the brainwashing propoganda is working. I don't believe that even debates will change anyone's minds. Look at the last few Dem debates, the last one in particular. Hillary sounded and demonstrated what a Repub candidate would be like to debate, and she STILL gets almost 50% of the Dem popular vote.
With no credible reporters, and ownership that laughs at principled journalism, I expect them to pander to the barely literate and hate filled minority with a TV version of the National Inquirer. As their demographic dies off, the audience will not be replaced, dooming them to an inexorable spiral into irrelevance.
Iraq Poll @ 8:
81.9 tot 19.1
When you place 'Fox News' in a title, please remember at the very least to keep the quotation marks around at least the word 'News'.
Can they survive, let's hope not.
ConcernedCanuck @ 24:
you're looking at the wrong polls. come down here and meet some living, breathing people.
before worrying about fux, I'd actually worry about DIEBOLD/SEQUIOIA voting machines.
BaScOmBe whose saying “NO REPUGS” @ 28:
RealClearPolitics has every poll online and up to date. Fact of the matter is, after the Bush Regime, this should not even be close between the two parties. Overall McCain would beat either Hillary or Obama. That is just sad.
Of course they'll survive, the corporations will still need a public mouth piece to undermine democratic legislation and save their profits whilst fucking the common man (and woman).
ConcernedCanuck @ 24:
What are you saying, ConcernedCanuck, that the close to 50% likely voting for McCain and one half of the other 50% likely voting a Republicn-like Hillary, that 75% of ALL voters are Fox-brainwashed idiots?
Nothing would please me more than the demise of Faux News. However, after Bush and even if the Dems manage to win, the right wingers will still need a foaming mouthpiece to spew their garbage and lies.
dennis @ 32:
I don't think it's just Fox. ALL major networks are nothing more than government shillls and wonder if the other major ones are not more guilty than Fox. With Fox, you KNOW which way they lean. With the others, it is not as obvious and is done with more tact/secrecy. I find that more dangerous.
BaScOmBe whose saying “NO REPUGS” @ 29:
I totally agree - here is another story the media will not cover
ConcernedCanuck @ 34:
No, no, no my brothers... corporate not government. Hopefully we can get back to "we the people" and away from "we the corporations".
There will always be a market for brain dead sheepie conservatives. FOX fills that niche. They aren't going anywhere.
Not to worry. They will survive quite nicely on Obama bashing and racism for eight years. This country is full of assholes who get off on that crap.
Others have covered quite nicely why Fox will survive. Another thing to keep in mind is that they survived 1996-2000, even if they weren't thriving. The difference now is they've actually accumulated a viewerbase, and at least half of it isn't going anywhere.
Fox is the NY Post of news networks.
Why single out just Fox. Doesn't matter if they go, or stay. You still have CNN, MSNBC, ABC CBS, the financial progs... all loaded up with Dem bashers. Couric isn't going to get intelligent and honest overnight after the election. Tweety and Potato-Head aren't going to stop lobbing softballs to the right-wingers, while loading up panels full of nazi pundits. Wolfe is, was, and will always be a waterboy for the republicans.
Fox leave? They all should go.
Why has Rev. Wright been on the news for a month? It's an anti-Obama tactic brought to you by Fox News.
I wouldn't be surprised if FoxNews turns into another E! channel. For those who remember, FoxNews was pretty much about celebrity gossip, scandals, crime and sex in the late-90's. They used to have a half hour national news show on their network stations, and I swear, every night there was least one story about the porn industry.
Two problems just with these paragraphs. Firstly, it accepts the premise that there is such a thing as "liberal news." There is not. The news is the news. The fact that most of the news is unflattering to the Bush administration is the fault of the Bush administration, not the media.
Secondly, "going tabloid"? GOING tabloid??? Where has this guy been for the last 12 years?
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I'm in favor of Faux news eating itself! If they shut down for any reason I would be at their headquarters to give a so long finger to these idiots! And then I would give a sigh of relief that one major enemy of America has been defeated.
But until that happens I'll just keep dreaming about that day...and hoping it will come soon!
Bill @ 44:
You are so right...I love the fact that Right Wing knuckle-heads equate the truth with liberal thinking. Any time a fact comes out that they don't like they says "it's the liberal media" and when the news lies like hell they call it Fox.
And they are 100% correct, the media that tries to have integrity and balance is in favor of liberals...because liberals don't hate America the way Conservatives do. And, of course, that is what makes Fox "news" what it is.
Dom @ 2:
their screams are going to be many and loud, I hope FEMA has some contingency plans for medications and recuperation beds for the upcoming crisis.
Theres going to be a lot of Faux viewers wandering the streets drooling and gibbering insanely, wondering where the last eight years went.
Blue Taliban Osama Buddha @ 43:
where will the serious Faux journos go !? what news org would touch them with the proverbial barge pole after having Faux on their resume.
Dom @ 2:
Four star analysis. Excellent!
ferrofluid @ 48:
It's cool...the good thing about Conservatives is they ALL carry cell phones...so when they are "wandering the streets gibbering insanely" they can at least hold their cell phones up to their ear and it will look like nothing has changed with these idiots!
I for one think we should pass a law allowing people to through rotten produce at an Conservative we see. It wouldn't make up for their crimes against America but it would be a great start...and therapeutic!
Bob KASPRZAK hates rethuglicans and wimpocrats @ 45:
Florida Florida Florida, where real news and real election results count for nothing.
Isnt it about time to reverse Floridas statehood and turn them into a protectorate/ province.
The mental midgets who watch Fox news will stay stupid and loyal I am sure .
Right wing radio and faux news made millions bashing and
villifying Dems. and liberals. A Dem white house and a Dem congress will keep their listeners glued to their sets, and the money will continue to pour in.
Sad but true.
Jesse! @ 3:
Don't worry. There's enough room on Bill O'Reillys ego for everyone.
Here's a comedy sketch idea: Bill O'Reilly filling out an unemployment insurance form.
Good for them. Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of assholes.
Personally, I hope they all lose their jobs and end up starving in a ditch somewhere. And that goes for all the other networks that allowed the neo-cons to LIE US INTO A WAR... with a nation that posed no threat to us and never attacked us.
Yeah, we got Sadaam... but a twenty-five cent sniper bullet could have achieved the same thing.
How about this: screw ANYONE on TV who wants to apologize for those murderers, thieves, and liars. They've MURDERED up to a half million people over there, but the networks, even the one's that YOU like, will let that incredibly HUGE fact simply DISAPPEAR, once the election cycle passes.
And THAT... is complicity to GENOCIDE.
And every time you tune in, you perpetuate it.
It's not JUST Fox News! It's ALL OF THEM. I've stopped watching them, and I will continue to do so. They no longer deserve my patronage. They enabled the LIARS. THIEVES, and MURDERERS to get away with it.
Simple minds are easily duped.
There will always be an audience for that psycho babble commentary show.
Iraq Poll @ 8:
Iraq Poll
Looks like the 101 fighting keyboarders got the message and are starting to affect the poll - it's down to 82% now :(
Faux Noise has always been known as a dead and worthless piece of shit.
Fox news is strictly an early 21st century phenomenon. As soon as BushCo is history this right wing mouthpiece will go the way of the dodo. People will remember this propaganda channel from the dark days of the Bush presidency and tell their children the sad story of America's flirtation with fascism.
I've seen some of those "sexy" pix lifted from Facebook and have one question to ask: Why do so many of them feature women sticking their tongues out and making quirky faces? Now I'm sure that this is a niche fetish for some, and provides hours of viewing pleasure, but I didn't find the photos particularly stimulating and started wondering why Jenna Jameson and Aurora Snow don't have Facebook profiles (though Aurora does have a MySpace page).
Conservatism is going extinct, but Faux will always have the extreme fringe crowd to pander to.
The SS Fox News, tugboat for the GOPtanic. Long may it sink.
Faux (news?) has aligned themselves with such an abhorrent and ignorant trend in american culture. They have dug a very deep hole for themselves to climb out of. This trend of the religous extremists and far right party hacks could never survive in a diverse culture and the damage that they have done will not be enough to keep faux in the mainstream. This is why you now see people like Chris Wallace coming to the defense of Obama and telling people in other segments of the network that they should moderate themselves. They are trying to come back to the center but it wont work because they are like a star trek actor. They have engraved into the american psyche what they are and will never be able to get another acting role of any significance to the american public. Ding dong the republican propaganda machine is dead. Good news for America and good news for the world.
Fox News will continue to be bankrolled by one of the world's richest men, and will continue to pimp Fox' line-up of money-making shows, thereby keeping Murdoch wealthy. They'll continue to lie to us, tugging the nation to the right, and will thrive under Democratic control. All the problems that decades of unrestrained corporatism caused will now be the fault of the Democrats, and will be used to hamstring any Democratic attempts to fix those problems. Just as Bill Clinton was Fox meat and drink, the next Democratic president will similarly be demonized.
Fox is a symptom, and not a root cause. It's the money, stupid--as long as we let it rule us, it will work against our interests. Fox' job is to keep us stupid, and to dissipate our rage in fights over American Idol.
much of fox's function is to put a visual on the talk radio repetition of lies and rumors that has already been spread all over the country earlier in the day or week so as long as the talk radio monopoly is intact the TV version will continue. since more and more people are realizing that the talk radio loudmouths have been wrong about everything of importance both are suffering.
bush's base may not all transfer to a mccain but while a part of the TR propaganda machine is dedicated to laying out a smorgasborg of bush excuses to choose from it's main purpose has been to attack and distort anything progressive. that will continue, most of it invisible to progressives until it shows up further up the media and political foodchain in the form of more bushism, until we get some new kind of Fairness Doctrine or demonopolization. until then progressives will keep playing politics without a front line and there will be a place for Fox.
TIME: Can FOX News Survive Post-Bush?
No. It will a Democratic priority of the next administration to break up the obscene corporate media monopoly of the Bush years, bring back the Fairness Doctrine, and make the FCC regulate misinformation and racism in media. Faux will have to pay so many fines it will declare bankruptcy and go off the air for good.
No doubt the cancer will survive. It just may have to downsize its Manhattan digs to a Bronx storefront for awhile.
Fox will be just fine...The funding comes from American Idol, the Simpsons, moment of truth, and so on. Rupert is money. Democrats like money just like republicans do, and to assume that a democratic presidency means the end of a media powerhouse is ignorant...
As long as there is a market for News Entertainment, there will be Fox News.
FOX has always been a haven for people who are (a) afraid, because it caters to their fears, and (b) knee-jerk Republicans, because it caters to their prejudices, so it will probably do OK. I hope ad revenues drop on it, so that Ailes and Murdock decide to change their focus, but I doubt if that will happen, so we can probably expect more of the same from them. By the way, if there is any smart researcher out there, it might be worth while to look at how leveraged with bank (foreign and domestic) money Murdock's empire is. He has gotten a lot of money to expand from banks, starting with the Australian ones, and it just may be that he isn't on the best footing for the long run, given losses at places like NY Post. I haven't seen any business school analyses of his position vis-a-vis the debt. Has anyone?
FUX Noise is pure garbage. Without Bush to promote they will whither and die.
as soon as bush is out of the office and the whitehouse, the new
democratice president can use parental control and zap this asshole
station and all it's reichwingneocon bastards off the air.
hopefully, all these suckass wimps will be out of jobs.
sanitation at a zoo would suit all of them with
night stays at gitmo.
Reinstating the Fairness Doctrine that Ronald Reagan eliminated would hurt Fox News (and all the other MSM) more than anything else.
Since the mid-80's, news in America has been completely dominated by right wing corporate propaganda.
Fox "News" will not only thrive but will prosper under a new Democratic administration. They have been on the defensive for the last seven years providing cover for the criminal Bush mis administration. Founded on the eve of the second term of the Clinton administration they were able to rally all Clinton bashers to their hateful and worthless cause. They excel at this but are quite capable of playing defense as well in the likely event the Democratic party implodes. So, I would not bet against Fox "News" success in either a McCain administration or a Democratic "McCain clone" administration. It will merely be the same old hate focused differently.
I can't see pravda network going away anytime soon, regardless of who wins the White House and Congress. Remember, this network of propaganda is run by the twisted old fart who dictates the agenda and distortions, and he could care less about profit...or he would be looking for credible spokespersons for his propaganda machine.
They will most likely take on the "attack dog gingrich" style propaganda when the Democrats take the country back, and they will always be able to find something they can twist and chant in front of their hateful, brain dead, nationalistic mystical baboon-ass audience.
Remember....gingrich made a career out of attacking the Clintons back in the 90's, and the only thing that stuck was a stain on Monica's dress. They will continue to spew the tabloid mentality, lies and bullshit to keep their twisted audience entertained.
fox is going no where soon.
FAUX was built on envy, envy of the "liberal" MSM, envy of the Democrats in powers. They, rash limpballs, (m)ann colter et al seemed kind of lost when the publicans took all branches of the government, until they figured out they could call everyone traitor who opposed them during the war on terra.
They'll be as happy as pigs in slop when the democrats are back in the White House, and they're back in the outhouse.
TIME: Can FOX News Survive Post-Bush?
They'll just go topless.
Of course they can, it will be as it ever was; a network devoted to attacking anything reasonably socially, politically or economically progressive, anything outside of whatever the Hell the nebulous Judeo-Christian value system is these days and they will continue to provide sleaze and propaganda to a nation of idiots who thrive on it like heroin addicts. America has Fox News because Americans are stupid.
Half-wits on talk radio thrived during the Clinton years. I would argue that the worst of times for fox is right now. They have the presidency and the news is generally bad. Once they can start playing the "loyal opposition" card and go back to hating everything the democratic government does they should be better off.
It will be funny to see them start to doubt Iraq once a democrat is running the show but it will happen. If and when the next democratic president launches a large scale effort to clear an area of Iraq, or increases funding for some Iraqi program many republicans will have a cognitive meltdown. Support Iraq by supporting a democrat? BEEEEEEEEP!!!! System reboot.
As much as I would like to think that faux news would go belly up, I would have to agree with those that have pointed out that a Democrat in the Whitehouse is simply a new target for the roughly 30% of Americans that seem to not be able to fault our current President. And if Democrats are also in charge of the legislature, then of course everything will be our fault, regardless of the fact that when Republicans where in charge of the whole ball of wax, they were blameless for anything bad whatsoever.
Read the stats; as nasty as fox noise has been, they are still killing cnn and msnbc. A few weeks ago just before the Geraldine Ferraro explosion, thousands (hard to prove exact numbers here) and thousands of Hillary Cllinton supporters and longtime fans of Keith Olberman -- hit a wall with Keith O and his diatribes against the Clintons. We walked away in mass; later in phone calls and emails and blogs, we realized that we all did it at the same time. This was massive, but it was not orgainzed; it was organic. And the ratings for Countdown -- counted down. So as we drifted about on the ether, we paused to watch fox and the Ferraro mess (why she's just awful, just awful, and a racist). And then came from stage left -- The Rev Wright; and fox jumped in with both feet. Anderson Cooper, well, he opined "are there not better subjects than the rev?" And msnbc played it low -- knowing the story would blow over. MEANWHILE , OVER AT FOX, the Clinton fans watched fox grow the rev wright story into a cottage industry. All of this turned on a dime; and I swear fox should send roses to Keith O forever. Me and mine still marvel that we are now watching fox. Just a few days ago, I watched Gretta ( on a first name basis with these suckers now) interview Sen Hillary Clinton; and it was good and Hillary knocked the ball --out da park. Gretta gave her time to talk, letting her utter complete compound sentences and paragraphs; no double-speak questions on top of questions like Chirs Mathews. Hillary was allowed to put forth her argument for suffrage for Florida and Michigan and a challenge to obama and the DNC to let the votes count or have revotes. Amazing Gretta and fox were not dismissive -- they let her talk. The world is upside down and fox is benefitting. But I do not know how long I can watch --- but tucker-fucker is already gone (but they brought the fool back on to add his political wisdom -- horsepiss), and the time slots for Keith O have completely changed. they are sinking
When bush is gone fox will return to the network we tune to when we can't fall alsleep at night and their advertising base will go back to stiff dick pills, pocket fisherman, hair growing creams and mint flavored douche. All this time everyone thought it was cool-aid they drank.
Show more tits: men will watch.
Just look at who is advertising with Faux, I'm not sure how long you can survive running Fat Tony Orlando Nutra system ads 24/7
I was surfing past the channel when I wondered what the NeoCon Harpy's would be going on about, so I waited out the adult diaper commercial only to be greeted with a 60 spot yelling at me that they were the "Fair and Balanced" place for news. In between repeated barrages of "Fair and Balanced", in audio and text, they had BillO stating that this is the only news that didn't have an agenda. I chuckled as I changed the channel... unable to bear witness any longer... And this was happening after a "mid-hour" commercial break.
Several things seemed clear. 1) Even they are having trouble believing that they are still relevant. 2) It looked like one of those documents that someone does right after getting their first computer... that document that uses 50 different fonts in various garish colors just because they think that it is SO cool. 3) How could anyone watch a channel that runs spots like that every 10-15 minutes? It was so obnoxious, anyone still watching that channel has to be dead or dying!
Let's hope not.
I do like Alan Colmes' radio show and occasionally Hannity and Colmes, but that's about the only FOX related thing that I watch or listen to. The whole network has a big-time tabloid quality to it--it's almost as bad as the New York Post.
Fox will always have it's cranky viewers. They will continue to be right-wing. They will continue to eat falafels. They will continue to have wet dreams about Ann Coulter, her slinky black dresses, pogo-stick figure, and Adam's apple. They will keep on worshipping Sean Hannity. Fox isn't going anywhere. And I would bet that Rudy Murdoch would gladly keep the hounds at bay if it meant saving his empire.
douglas in oklahoma @ 83:
This because they know St. McCain has a better chance at beating Hillary. Rudy Murdock has been giving her money, for god's sake.
None of these propaganda networks could survive a reformation of the FCC, if the FCC were fumigated and subsequently restored to integrity.
Nobody is watching fox news.
Look at their actual numbers.
Their most popular show gets about 2 million viewers.
Thats less than 1% of the nation.
Crooks and liars probably boosts their ratings with all the coverage they give them.
One of my students, who is active duty Navy, told the class that his Service requires that the TVs in all Naval installations (dining rooms, rec. centers, offices, etc.) be tuned to Fox News.
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