Abstinence Only Education Failing: Teens Think Bleach Prevents HIV
By Logan Murphy Wednesday Apr 02, 2008 3:50pm
As Atrios sez; Who could have predicted?
A recent survey that found some Florida teens believe drinking a cap of bleach will prevent HIV and a shot of Mountain Dew will stop pregnancy has prompted lawmakers to push for an overhaul of sex education in the state.
The survey showed that Florida teens also believe that smoking marijuana will prevent a person from getting pregnant.State lawmakers said the myths are spreading because of Florida's abstinence-only sex education, Local 6 reported.
They are proposing a bill that would require a more comprehensive approach, the report said.It would still require teaching abstinence but students would also learn about condoms and other methods of birth control and disease prevention. Read on...
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I'm oh so proud to live in FloriDUH!
Good gracious! Give these Teens some Real Eductation in the Biology of their bodies, will you?
On the other hand the Lies told in order to obtain sex continues to grow...
The state that looks like a limp penis certainly needs sex ed.
Some perpetrate and drink Clorox.
Didn't you Floridians embarrass yourselves and the entire US enough during the 2000 presidential election ?
Apparently not ............
Brought to you by the same political party that has brought you all the other utterly ridiculous horrors from the sunshine state. We are in the clutches of a republican government.
Oh dear sweet merciful crap. My brain just got up and took a walk.
Come on, let 'em drink the bleach! Maybe the NEXT generation will be a bit smarter.
Here in Idaho Tap Dancing in the mens room is what prevents pregnancy........
Yeah I sent a link to John about this. Craziness.
absolutely scary
how can the military ever have enough soldiers if they allow kids to get ill from communicable disease and over-vaccinating them into neurological disorders?
Duh, its Florida. So stupid, it gets its own tag on fark.
The children are learning well from republicans.
If you keep repeating falsehoods, people will eventually believe that the lies are facts.
Welcome to the culture of turd-brains.
A public service announcement:
Drinking bleach is not good for you!
This is almost funny. Can you imagine drinking bleach?
And how about Mt Dew? I mean with a slogan like Do The Dew, you'd think that at best that soft drink might pump up (d'oh!! I said it!) one's odds of getting preggers.
Look, these repugs want people stupid, ignorant, uneducated and most of all procreating like rabbits in order to man their "all-volunteer" army well into the hundred years that McStubbyarms wants to keep the oil wars going.
Hey Jeb, you asshole -- are you still proud of your "accomplishments" as governor in terms of "education" in this fucktard state?
Gov Crist -- what are YOU going to do about ejumucashun in Floriduh?
I think the Mountain Dew thing has to do with the urban legend that drinking it will lower your sperm count, due to the Yellow 5 in it, just taken to a ridiculous extreme.
DRINKING BLEACH?
That's a new low in intelligence --- for ANYONE, ANYWHERE!
This state is too stoopid to vote. No wonder the elections are stolen there.
Florida - where national elections go to die.
Ohio - so stoopid, they blame Obama for nafta, which they can't even spell. So dumb, they believe news from canada.
Pennsylvania - so stoopid and hateful, they vote for whatever hurts them because to do otherwise might help someone else.
They all need to understand THE BASIC LAWS OF HUMAN STUPIDITY
Heh. My brother lives down there, he's a NJ transplant, and he is constantly awed by the sheer stupidity and lack of common knowledge that these people possess. I guess Jesus Saves, because they almost too stupid to live.
It seems like your former World inspiring country is free-falling into a Third-world one.
PickUp Line: Hey, baby, a little bleach, a little weed, and a little Mountain Dew and it's no problemo. No, no need to check with your Mom. Trust me.
Floriduh, just like Mississippi only dumber.
Here is a simple IQ test for the abstinence trained children of Floriduh...
1. What's the difference between a bar maid and a prostitute?
A bar maid is Fair and Buxom.
2. What's the difference between a lady in church and a lady in the bathtub?
The lady in church is getting Hope in her Soul.
What's the difference between and a circus performer and a burlesque show?
A circus performer shows a Cunning array of Stunts.
What's the difference between a blow job and a tuna salad sandwich?
Give up...? Wellll, what are you doing for lunch, little boy?
/snark (:>
LOL, #24!
Oy. A shot of Mountain Dew? Like a drink shot? Or an injection shot? I used to work in family planning and had heard from some kids that Mountain Dew caused low sperm counts so it was safe to have sex with boys that drank Dew. I did my best to shoot down that little bit of misinformation as fast as possible.
When I was in high school, way back in the 70's, there was a rumor that douching with Coke after sex would prevent pregnancy. Even at 16, I knew that was nothing but a sure fire way to a wicked yeast infection plus an unwanted pregnancy.
Why do kids attach such magical properties to soft drinks? Is there some marketing campaign that adults are completely unaware of?
Can we get them to add chlorine as well? [mumbles something about thinning out the gene pool]
Another of Bush's faith-based initiatives. THIS is why there needs to be a clear separation of church and state.
And @ 20:
Just curious, in what area of the the state does he reside. The panhandle of Florida is heavily republican and heavily supportive of people like Katherine Harris and her ilk.
Dr. Acula @ 16:
arkansas was third from the bottom in education behind Alabama and Mississippi when Clinton was gov. that explains how they could elect hucKKKabee. I know fla. and tex. had to be close behind.
Greetings From Idiot America
Jesus H. Christ, people. Don't you remember having to take these stupid tests in school? Did YOU put a lot of thought or CARE what the outcome of the answers were? Hell, I might've answered canibalism cures cancer just because I was pissed off I had to take some stupid fucking test, thinking "what's in it for me?...nothing?...then why should I give a shit?" I can distinctly remember making obscene pictures on the multiple chice scantron sheets as well. The only morons involved in this are the ones that actually think teens give a shit enough to factually answer their stupid tests.
vince @ 21:
what do you mean, "falling"? didn't you get the 2004 election results?
Thanks Bushies, you're a great influence!
And @ 20:
Well, any state that has a concentration of people who wear black dress socks with shorts and sandals...
I'm pretty sure we also have a faith based prison system down here too. Dr Acula, do you know?
HDon @ 31:
So it's the teens' fault they're drinking bleach.
Bonkers Hussein @ 34:
Hey those are the tourist. We can't be held responsible for visitors from up north who should be arrested by the fashion police.
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HDon @ 31:
LOL
That's a funny thought. A whole state full of teens tweaking us into a lather by pretending to think that bleach prevents pregnancy. I like it, even if the joke is at my expense!
pissed off patricia @ 37:
Hahaha! Fair enough, fair enough.
Donald Hussein Cormac @ 24:
good funny
CoIntelPro - against Divisive Democrats @ 32:
Hey, our healthcare system is only slightly better than Slovenia's. In terms of education, we rank below Korea and Belgium.
If Florida were a family, it would be guilty of child abuse and neglect.
BLEACH? HOW SAD.
Bonkers Hussein @ 40:
You should see some of the outfits people wear when they are on vacation down here. Go into any restaurant during the winter and I guarantee you will see at least one tourist in some sort of garb that will make you want to ask them, What were you thinking when you put that on?
Teach children about sex?? OMG no. What would Jeebus say????
Dumb-ass knuckle-draggers. God I wish the South would secede again.
Don't tell me drinking bleach doesn't work! I've been drinking it for years and have never got knocked-up.
Dr. Acula @ 17:
Cut millions from the education budget in order to keep paying for JethroJeb's tax cuts for the ultra wealthy.
Crist isas phony as a 4 dollar bill
take care
tony and guidedog Lido
This is exactly what the GOP wants, stupid people breeding like rats, do you think Walmart greeters and disposable soldiers grow on trees?
oh puleeze. Sounds like the teens in this survey are playing with our heads.
I believe that drinking bleach will get you killed.
pissed off patricia @ 45:
Here in San Francisco I have great fun spotting tourists freezing their butts off because they are running around in shorts, t-shirts and having chilly winds blowing up their legs. Why? I imagine because they were thinking, "Hey! It's California! Nice and warm!", so I do have a little sympathy.
Hey, I imagine that I looked like class-A dork in some way or another when I was wandering around Paris or London.
Nonetheless, I am amused when I hear teeth-chattering exclamations like, "Fluch! Sie ist hier in Kalifornien kalt!"
:)
casper46 @ 47:
I suppose that would explain your complexion.
Gee, I wonder if they have tried dropping a clear-eye solution to their drink. It will knock them off good, very good indeed.
That's the trouble when you don't teach science anymore.
Bonkers Hussein @ 39:
Aren't you the optimists.
Wow, someone found out that abstinence only sex ed. doesn't work. At least not if you care about the health of teenagers, but i'm sure Jeebus was very happy with it. The question remains, how many unwanted teen pregnancies, abortions, suicides and STD victims did this idiocy result in and who is going to take responsibility for it. Nobody i'm guessing.
I think that while it's just plain dumb to think that drinking a shot of bleach prevents HIV, there's a grain of truth there, too.
IIRC, it's recommended to IV drug users that they clean their needles with bleach if they're going to share those needles. IIRC.
The survey found "some teens believe"
How many is "some"? Several hundred? Thousands? Or two in Pensacola, the hometown now of Joe Scarborough?
I love how you guys are blaming abstinence-only education for this problem. I am going to a school that doesn't teach birth-control, but I still don’t believe that drinking bleach would prevent my girlfriend from getting pregnant. Maybe these people aren’t simply ignorant, but stupid, and no amount of education will change that. Or they are just messing with us...like they messed with us in 2000.
I am sure these teens are totally screwing with everyone's heads. I was in middle school and high school during the reagan years and Nancy's big "Just Say NO" joyfest and I remember getting a survey to fill out about our views on drugs and yada yada and I remember my friends and I getting a big kick out of writing the most outrageous crap we could think of in that survey about our "drug habits". It was total BS. God only knows what we would have written if we got to fill out a survey about our sex life. LOLOLOLOL! I would take this with a total grain of salt. ids just aren't this dumb nowadays. There is too much info right at their fingertips. They know TONS more than we did at their age.
pissed off patricia @ 58:
Not sure, but as recently as yesterday(On Yahoo New Page, Dateline Washington AFP)
it was reported that only 3 out of every 10 high school students graduate(this was a
nationwide percentage of 34 percent). Graduation rates, depending upon what section
of county one lives in, ranged from 50 percent graduation rate to less than 30 percent.
Maybe this is an indication as to why some students are so dense(started to use "stupid", but did not want to insult more so than they deserve), and believe in
such nonsence as Clorox/Mt. Dew and Marjiuanna.
Old Billy Hussein @ 55:
Well, sure! I'd rather the joke be on me than believe that today's teens are functional retards!
Ruffmama@60 makes a good point with the last sentence of her post, too.
Here's the ignorance some kids are dealing with and note her age.
There is only one thing that abstinence-only education prevents, that is growth of brain cells
barbara bush should have practiced safe sex
look at least three horrific needed abortions
she should have had........the worst one is the pres
MCMetal @ 5:
Don't forget. Florida is Pig-Eyed Joe's home state.
Jack Lewis @ 49:
It's called the Republic base, I believe.
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Abstinence-only education is not intended to "work" (in the sense of reducing the negative impacts of ignorance.)
It is meant to maintain ignorance and fear so people (and their children) will continue to be dependent on primitive bronze-age cults.
There simply is no reason not to tell teenagers how sex works.
Abstinence-only sex education is like any other kind of abstinence-only safety and health education: it makes no fucking sense.
You don't teach people fire safety by simply telling them not to play with matches and giving them no information about what fire IS.
You don't teach people good nutrition by just giving them diets to follow and not telling them what protein, carbohydrate and vitamins ARE.
You don't teach people how to drive by putting them behind the wheel of a car blindfolded and telling them to trust in the lord.
It's lunacy, plainly lunacy. Any time anyone suggests abstinence-only, offer them a juice box and a seat at the kiddie table with all the other wingnuts while the adults are talking.
That, by the way, has become my new strategy for all of this stuff. "Surge is working," "the mortgage problem was caused by too much regulation," "ignorance-only education works," etc.
Stop even entertaining or indulging these arguments. Just smile, nod, say "that's nice for you," pull out the juice box and then turn to an adult for a real conversation.
Nerrin @ 7:
LMAO
Dr. Acula @ 17:
He'll do whatever his party tells him to do.
"some Florida teens believe drinking a cap of bleach will prevent HIV"
Well it will but only because you're going to the hospital.
Seriously I have a hard time believeing anyone is this stupid.
I'm more willing to believe that a bunch of smart ass teens decided to screw with the man by giving bs answers.
*sigh*. I'm afraid we might have to add Florida to the list of states that require a passpot to visit. You know, like Alabama.
Jeannie See @ 73:
Some other states:
Georgia
Idaho
Iowa
They also teach that blowing a congressman will prevent acne.
Not to mention the fact that pot generally makes a person horny as hell.
This is the place where over half of teens couldn't find Miami on a map of Florida. Between this story, Kansans living on toilets, and Missourians shooting each other while installing satellite dishes, is there any wonder why they're Red states?
tony @ 74:
You might want to put another modifier with your statement. Bonkers seems to interpret "some" as 'A whole state full'...
See, in this case "some" means the 3 listed...there are 50 States...3 + 1 = "some" not all 50.
Ok, so you got AIDS, but your splooge gets your whites their whitest. Now thats some fine conservative thinking.
Umm , did these stupid douchebags ever wonder why condoms and spermicide are still made if either of the above were true ?
BennyP @ 75:
No wonder Lindsey Graham's cheeks have such a rosey hue.
Bonkers Hussein @ 34:
LOL
At the risk of sounding horribly inhumane - a generation of dope smoking, bleach drinking citizenry might actually be an improvement for many Florida municipalities!
Everyone knows you can simply pray pregnancy away if your faith is strong enough. What's to learn when everything that's important is contained in one book, the Bible?
TekRas @ 83:
It would be if social services wasn't required to aid those who's problems are self inflicted.
And @ 20:
My 1st week in Tampa the local news had a story about a couple of teens who buried their friend alive on the beach and left them their overnight ... their friend died and they were shocked, SHOCKED I tell you because they had done it plenty of times before and no one had gotten hurt. There's just a special brand of stupid being cultivated down there.
CD @ 85:
Heheh Florida is a republican/libertarian wunderland ... I'm sure they'll get around to shutting down social services along with public education and any other government service all together soon enough.
greg white @ 84:
You know that is an interesting point. I wonder how many of these religious conservatives are willing to forgo all govt benefits and insurance and rely on prayer?
It would certainly thin their numbers.
#9 (Cointelpro),
Thank you for sending me to The Basic Laws of Stupidity as my initial response was "Nobody's THAT F*UCKIN' STUPID! I'm ashamed of my species.
Here in MI we teach them real sex ed. And we still have shit like this going on! So how does one explain that, other than maybe what we should be teaching is parenting... to the parents.
I believe what is most logical is a blend of abstinence and methods, but no matter what you tell kids the lesson won't be learned without strong parenting at home. Personally I would rather my daughter abstain, but I'm making sure she knows what is what in case she decides otherwise. The decision is ultimately hers. I'm Christian and so is she, but my Christianity says that anyone is capable of any decision, good or bad, at any point. None of us are 'good enough' and no one is immune.
As for the Christian right, they are neither Christian nor right in my humble opinion.
Bleach does prevent HIV. A dead body cannot contract the virus.
The world needs a steady dose of comprehensive sex education. It also needs a loudspeaker shouting "hands off, religion" 24/7.
TekRas @ 87:
lol anyone trying that would suffer the wrath of old people who bitch to know end about taxes but will slit your throat of you try to take social services money from them.
Even liquor isn't quicker
Drinking bleach actually could be very useful at preventing HIV deaths, if only because an eroded-through esophagus will kill you long before HIV has a chance to get its licks in.
Bonkers Hussein @ 52:
I remember well freezing my gonands off in January walking guard duty at Camp Pendleton in 69! Just before sun rise ,it was rainly ,windy and bone numbing cold in all places ,"sunny" California.
ruffmama @ 60:
That explains way STD's have risen among youth every year Bush has been in office.
Abstinence-only classes are such a scam. Like the faith-based initiatives, it's only a way to funnel federal money to mostly evangelical churches who provide most of the teachers or hold the lessons at their churches. They are not required to prove their costs, are distributed by the federal gov't and require that no one may answer any questions about any other methods of preventing pregnancy unless the answer are among the lies and half-truths that are pre-approved.
No moneys are given by the Feds for full sexual education classes. It's abstinence or nothing. Nothing seems to look better except the school districts can siphon off some money for administration of the classes.
pissed off patricia @ 58:
It's the Faux/O'Really Syndrome.
"Some people say..." or "Some people believe..."
.
It should be called:
Abstenece on Sex Education.
.
Two words: Jeb Bush.
Wow. Those teens are seriously stupid. What can they drink, smoke or inject that will prevent them from breeding altogether?
I thought I never got pregnant because I was a lesbian, but all this time, it was the diet mountain dew...
Can we just sell Florida to South America?
You have to wonder...how many MORONS are in the state?
Oh, that's right...Jeb Bush was your governor...I guess the Bush Stupidity rubbed off on EVERY DAMN RESIDENT there.
anal sex is the only sure way to not get pregnant.
Rico @ 103:
Wrong. Phone sex.
I had a friend in high school who believed that, if you thought "I don't want to get pregnant" really hard as you were having sex, you wouldn't get pregnant. But, if you forgot for even a second, it.....I don't know, broke the spell or something and you would get pregnant.
We used to say that the only reason she didn't get pregnant was because her boyfriend was blonde too.
(I apologize for my racially insensitive remark towards those who are pigmentally-challenged.)
I've said it before and I'll say it again....this is the reason there needs to be a filter in the gene pool.
I'll bet those kids never swallow any watermelon seeds.
Keep them in the dark, and myths are spawned. (The church/religion has always known this-- just sayin' cuz I felt like it..)
I'm ususally sympathic to the undereducated...but...if anyone actually believes this nonsense they are too dangerous for society at large and should be allowed to drink that cap of bleach. Hell, up the dosage to a gallon.
Where the hell are all of the parents of these teens? I mean, I was the one explaining sex and it's consequences to my children. I was the one who believed that if they were old enough to ask the question, they were old enough to get the answer. Schools are not totally responsible for this one. Some things are NOT government responsibilities and this definately is one of them.
The problem with the modern era is that our collective advances have come to benefit even the "unfit" among us. The massive mate pool that now exists with overpopulation, coupled with other people's technological achievements that trickle down to improve the chances that more stupid people will reach breeding age, creates this scenario where those previously deemed "unfit" are now multiplying like rabbits and creating this juggernaut effect - this massive, unstymied influx of stupid. Stupid is the fertile soil in which evil plants its seed. Let them drink the bleach.
Doug @ 102:
Well, I never voted for a bush in my life.
Obama 08
Stopping the Republican War on Science
I'd do that teacher.
What did she do, stick her tits in a pencil sharpener?
They're dumb enough to drink bleach?!?? I always knew that Florida sun fries the brain but, WOW...
Right wing christians are dumber than a stump. Flat earth thinking has put this country way behind the Europeans and repuglicans laughed at the French and made fun of them. The problem with the right wing christians is they actually think they're smarter than everybody else. If they were only half as smart as the Europeans that would be a enormous improvement. But, not a chance. I actually think they like being stupid.
Chris H. @ 59:
Yes, because we are saying that abstinence-only education will make EVERY person believe falsehoods.
No.
Fact of the matter is that education = receiving information. Abstinence-only education is not education, it is propaganda, just like if education that taught about birth control also said "Have sex all the time!" Abstinence-only education that specifically omits teaching about birth control (due to the fear that it will be seen as endorsement of sex... terrible thing to endorse, right?) allows for these kinds of myths to spread like wildfire.
And, like I said, it doesn't mean 100% of the kids will pick up the myths, there is still real information out there for anyone who wants to get it on their own (since parents usually don't do shit as far as sex ed is concerned)... so the fact that YOU personally didn't pick up the myths doesn't disprove a simple, logical, and factual principle: That sex education fights sex myths, and lack of sex education does not.
Get it through your thick skull.
WITH 1 IN 4 TEENS INFECTED WITH A SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASE IN THE UNITED STATES, GIVING THEM ACCURATE INFORMATION ABOUT SEXUALITY IS THE ONLY *MORAL* THING WE CAN DO!!!!
WHAT PART OF SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE DO THESE ABSTINENCE-ONLY CRAZEBOS NOT UNDERSTAND?????
Keep your Bibles out of our schools and go back to the caves you crawled out of.
GZUS.
WHAT PART OF SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE DO THESE ABSTINENCE-ONLY CRAZEBOS NOT UNDERSTAND?
Keep your Bibles out of our schools and go back to the caves you crawled out of.
GZUS.
ysbaddaden @ 113:
Haha, me too. Sexy, in a black&white kinda way.
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