Douglas Feith: Iraq was not a retaliation for the 9/11 attacks.
By John Amato Wednesday Apr 02, 2008 5:06pm 
OK, I really can't comment on this right now. I'm just speechless. Remember all the talk from the administration about Saddam and al-Qaeda and 9//11 to scare us into a war with Iraq and Feith leading the way? Scroll down the page for some of his distortions. Take it away good readers.
Feith on 60 Minutes:
The first Pentagon insider to give his account of the run-up to war says the attack on Iraq was more a defensive move against possible future threats from Saddam Hussein than a retaliation for the 9/11 attacks. Douglas Feith, the former undersecretary of defense for policy, also tells Steve Kroft that the Pentagon failed to foresee the insurgency or the need for more troops to prevent the post-war chaos that included looting..
What we did after 9/11 was look broadly at the international terrorist network from which the next attack on the United States would come," says Feith, the No. 3 person in the Pentagon’s hierarchy from 2001 to 2005. "Our main goal was not merely retaliation for the 9/11 attack, it was preventing the next attack," he says. Pressed by Kroft on the importance of getting the 9/11 plotters, Feith responds that getting them was important, but "it was also important to go after the broader network … and prevent whatever plans there were for following attacks," Feith tells Kroft...read on
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NOW can we ship these suckers to the Hague?
These liars are so pathetic. When the first lie doesn't work, make up a more ridiculous excuse.
the fact that this asshole gets to spew his bs on the teevee goes to show how corrupt the whole establishment is.
WOW! Why are we not arresting these traitors? Instead they have revisionist history and spout it out on the airwaves. This is the same guy that changed the intelligence report on Iraq and the Pentagon just let him get away with it saying that it was wrong.
I dunno if anyone's been watching cspan-3 today, but they've been talking about getting out of Iraq all day.
WTF???!!!! Dosn't even begin to cover this!
Excuse me, but isn't this fucking illegal????
Now can we bring on that table Nancy?
Harrah's main goal in sponsoring a PBS special on the elderly was not to promote gambling. It was to encourage people from spending their money at the casinos and promote savings.
All I can say is: Unfuckingbelievable!!!
L.A. Confidential @ 8:
Huh?
Jeannie See @ 10:
Oh Harrah's sponsored a show on PBS about caring for elderly parents this week. I was just using Feith Speak to make a point.
Jeannie See @ 10:
he's having a pre-emptive senior moment...forgive him.
I can't hardly bear to read this stuff any more as we watch Congress continue to stand by doing nothing. I believe we lost our country 7 years ago. Most people just haven't figured it out yet.
Verdillac @ 12:
LOL no thanks the sooner people stop listening to the experts and start thinking and for themselves the better off everyone will be.
Hey Feith.
F*ck you, you f*cking f*cktard.
I just recently read about how Reagan warned the American public that the Sandinistas were only a short march from the US, like it was a realistic possibility that a poor country with little military was going to invade the US if the US basically didn't kill thousands of innocent Nicaraguans. The fact that someone in a position of power can say that freaking Iraq or Nicaragua was a threat to the US...simply amazing. Saddam might have been a (US funded, supported and created) monster but he wasn't blindly stupid, he posed no damn threat to the US, this government is much more of a threat to this country than Iraq ever was. Matter of fact, the only time they had the types of weapons, though lacking the delivery capability, to attack the US in any way was when the right wing here was giving him the bio agents and brought his scientist to the US to teach them how to make WMD’s. Who does this nonsense work with?
He is actually saying that it was retaliation. He says it wasn't merely that, but much more.
If he had said that it wasn't retaliation, then that's just what "they" have been saying all along. But what he is saying is a total lie, and not merely the kind of twisted rhetoric the Bush and Cheney use.
Douglas Feith is a worthless, lying, scum-sucking piece of sh*t neocon who has no problem at all deceiving anyone to get his way. Remember, these are all followers of Leo Strauss, who opined that leaders have an obligation to lie to the public in order to take the actions they (the leaders) have decided are necessary to take in order to achieve the goals they (the leaders) have decided are necessary to achieve.
Fascism, not democracy.
Sounds like Feith finally got the memo from Olmert.
These guys are horrible about foreseeing consequences to their actions, and I'm not just talking about the Iraq invasion.
I'm talking about the fact they thought their initial bullshit would hold through the remainder of history. This is not the same world it was 100 years ago. Manipulating history is much more difficult. They might have fooled all of the people for some of the time, but we all know how that saying goes.
It's just astounding the audacity, or the stupidity, they had to think it would all turn out so rosy.
omg...Laura at No1 got it right- WHEN do we try these warmongers for War Crimes...holy shit...how MUCH footage do we need of their "heroic" reasons....it just boggled the mind..... ???
I am confused- was this on Sunday ? or is this on the 60 minutes this coming sunday???
( I did not see this...)
L.A. Confidential @ 11:
It's apparent that LA Confidential is John McCain's pen name on this sight.
Three words:
War Crimes Tribunals.
Let's get 'em going.
I thought the iraqattack was due to their not being able to get the oil they invaded Afghanistan to steal from up north? Let's add it up. A saudi royal is in charge of the operation. all the "terrorisms" were members of El Caca, and the saudi gubment bankrolls El Caca. The soldiers were 85% saudi soda born and bred, according to the 911 commission, and there's this one country, see, hates this other country, and both like the money they make from oil. They bankroll and steamroll governments all over the world with billions of bribes to do their work for them.
This was Shooter's way of saying thanks to the saudi's over the years by attacking all their real enemies for them. When it is all over. Doesn't look like it is going well though. The Iranians now look like the beneficiary of all the hatred and killing, not the folks that asked for the deed to be done?
really a lot of sociopaths having a fine time, unfettered. When do you think any one in our other government will act?
Clearly, Feith didn't get the memo and has gone off-script, spouting rehashed PNAC filth.
At the CBS site, one poster gave a great response. I think it was mrmazaerati:
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Preemptive wars have happened before. By Feith''s logic:
Hitler knew the Allies would attack and try to overrun Germany, he just tried to prevent it.
The Muslims knew we were going into Iraq, and attacked on 9/11 to try to prevent it.
Japan knew we would bomb Tokyo, Nagasaki, and Hiroshima, and just tried to stop it by attacking the Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor.
This kind of reasoning opens up all kinds of possibilities.
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theWalrus @ 23:
I say, "Bring 'em on!"
Wouldn't it have been funny if Steve Kroft had done his best Wayne's World imitation and said "Lying scumbag asshole says what?"
This isn't the 1900s. They have heard of you tube videos and everything they said in the run up to invasion. They can't put the Genie back into the bottle.
Bullshit .... it was about Oil and Money and feeding the Military Industrial
Complex.
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Verdillac @ 12:
Ah, brain fart. Gotcha.
Keylimeade @ 28:
No, instead he asks, "is that chair comfortable enough for your huge ass?"
Soon Americans will be thinking George Bush is another Ronnie Raygun. Spinning like a top with history and how they will rewrite it. Americans are dumbed down by the bullshit on MSM. The bush crime family has tried everything they can to bring down America to their level.
This made no complete sense what so ever and now everyone is that much dimmer for having had to listen to it.
“it was also important to go after the broader network … and prevent whatever plans there were for following attacks,” Feith tells Kroft…
still doesn't explain why they went into iraq...
That is BULLSHIT It was and is about Oil and Money and feeding the Military Industrial Complex.
Halliburton, KBR, Carlyle Company, Blackwater etc.
I've heard Feith and other neocons say similar things about their noble intentions in interviews before. He seems to get frustrated, as if his audience can't understand his argument. I think we all understand the stated motivation just fine-- it's their absurdly arrogant, authoritarian solution that's the problem.
I'm all for "draining the swamp", as they say. But you don't do it with a gun. You do it raising the standard of living for the people of the region to the point where they demand representational government for themselves. Religious extremism is less welcome in more comfortable societies.
If they actually had wanted to get rid of Hussein and foster democracy, the rational way to go about it would've been to remove the sanctions on Iraq and let their economy get back up to speed-- and don't expect results overnight! But of course, the authoritarian instinct is the jump in and shoot everybody, and cram a sham democracy down their throats. It doesn't work. It couldn't work. Critics were shouting as much before they even began this adventure in stupidity.
We understand what you're saying, Feith-- it's just that it's all so god damn moronic.
"I have to deal with the stupidest fucking guy on the planet almost every day." - Tommy Franks referring to Feith.
Iraq had no connection to al Qaeda. Hussein had no plans to attack the US and, even if he had, lacked the means to do it. Feith...the stupidest f**king guy on the planet.
My kid just turned 1 a few weeks ago. I shudder to think what he will learn someday in his history classes about these times. I can only hope and pray that the truth will overcome, and history will not be rewritten by assholes such as Feith and everyone else involved.
♣Bangkok Bob♠ @ 36:
You know this, I know this, John Amato knows this, most of us here know this. But have any members of the mainstream media asked us? Nooooo!
n his autobiography, American Soldier, Franks describes a conversation with his subordinates who were upset with Rumsfeld, Feith and Paul Wolfowitz; Franks tells them, "Here's the deal, guys. I know OSD - Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and Feith - are demanding a lot. But they are not the enemy. Don't start thinking good guys-bad guys. We're all on the same side." They could see I was serious. "I'll worry about OSD, all of them - including Doug Feith, who's getting a reputation around here as the dumbest fucking guy on the planet," I continued. "Your job is to make me feel warm and fuzzy. Look, we're all professionals. Let's earn our pay."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Feith
Did anyone read the article in Vanity Fair? The Green Light?
These people better be extra careful when they try to leave the US for another country.
That is the dumbest and most morally corrupt crap that I have ever heard uttered by a member of a Presidential Administration. It's just chilling and galling at the same time. No wonder Tommy Franks calls Feith one of the "dumbest human beings' he's ever met. Everything this idiot said is completely un-American. Have we really sunk that low as a Nation? Bleech...I'm going to go throw up now.
In a simplistic way, he is probably right.
9/11 was the excuse to attack Iraq, not the cause of the attack.
The Iraq Invasion and Oil Grab was on the agenda all along.
BushCo would have found another excuse to attack if 9/11 had not fallen into his lap.
This logic is one of the reasons the conspiracy theories won't go away.
Ahhhhh, but just wait! Waaait until conservative sheeple who call talk radio, talking heads on FixedNoise, neocon columnists all pick up this lie and just start wailing away with it, repeating it over and over! Bang! Bang! Bang! Until it is just accepted "fact"! DOWN THE MEMORY HOLE!
"We have always been at war with East Asia."
Ironically, had the war in Iraq been retaliation for 9/11 it could be argued it was a success. 9/11 -> attack the shit out of Iraq = success.
However if they go with the 'preemptive war to protect America' then no matter what ever happens in Iraq, the whole adventure is a failure simply because Iraq posed no threat HOWEVER, now as a fertile breeding ground for terrorists who were never in Iraq before, Iraq IS a threat BECAUSE of the war.
This is would be unbelievable, if it weren't from the Bush team. These guys have the courage to tell you to your face that they lied about getting us into war, acted and continue to act illegally and have no fear of being held accountable. Does anyone in their right mind think that Congress or the Senate will do anything about it? It seems the only way these guys will be held accountable is if the public mimics them and picks them up off the street, throws them in the back of a van and hauls them off to a secret basement somewhere to be held indefinitely.
nwmuse @ 13:
Careful or they will look into STEROIDS IN BASEBALL or somthing...
Sadly we lost our country long before then.
Jeannie See @ 43:
It is funny - THEY HAVE SAFE HAVEN HERE - LOL
An't that a screem?!?!
Wow!
Who knew the stench of bullshit could carry across the internet!
Why isn't this man in jail for life for war crimes?
frank bonas jr @ 48:
Probably not, the Congress is implicit in this whole stinking mess.
Look I know that I'm not supposed to say thing like this, but if given the chance I would choke the breath out of this beast.
And in other more important news. Food has become UNAFFORDABLE for MOST American families and our healthcare system and banking system continues to screw over Americans with NO help from our incompetent leadership in both Congress and the Executive Branch. All in all it is just another BULLSHIT day in America.
greg white @ 51:
Because our new AG is a clone of Gonzales and the Democratic majority in congress are all too busy making bets about 'Dancing with the Stars'.
It all worked out rather nicely for Feith and his fellow neo-cons. None of them have been held responsible for misleading us into a disastrous war. And now they can all plan their opulent retirements replete with book deals, corporate lecture tours and of course government pensions and benefits. Life is apparently good when you have no conscience or scruples.
The Executive branch has Rotted From the inside out.
The whole freaking place should be leveled and start over.
{sorry, I woke up in a BAD mood this morning, it's only 6 AM here and my day is shit already,
Damn these people! I can't wait until they are gone}
"Seldom have I met.... a dumber man."
What weird bullshit dope has this asshole been smoking?
Saddam was bottled up from '91 on. He had no air force, no tanks and most the country was a free-fly zone patrolled every day by USAF fighter jets and AWACS surveillance planes. Every inch of the country was open to surveillance by US satellites. The UN inspectors documented lots of abuses, but no WMDs and no strategic threat to anyone outside Iraqi borders.
Bush Snr. had the right strategy. For as long as Saddam was in power, even in a diminished, contained sense, Iran was contained too.
Feith is one of those neocon jerks who invokes the Churchill/Hitler model as a rationale for invading Iraq. Trouble is, Churchill, who presided over the creation of Iraq as British colonial secretary after WWI and sent British troops there to prop up the puppet kingdom there, ended up changing his mind. He declared Iraq to be a lost cause and pulled out.
There is no logical justification for invading or staying in Iraq. None. Nada.
Do not believe anything on the mere authority of teachers or priests. Accept as true and as the guide to your life only that which accords with your own reason and experience, after thorough investigation.
Accept only that which contributes to the well-being of yourself and others.
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♣Bangkok Bob♠ @ 57:
Hurricane Katrina hit the wrong city.
Tommy Franks hit it on the head when he called this guy "the dumbest f u c k i n g guy on the planet"
In a simplistic way, he is probably right.
9/11 was the excuse to attack Iraq, not the cause of the attack.
But wasn't 9/11 the new Pearl Harbor that the signers of the PNAC were praying for so that they could attack Iraq?
He can drop dead now. Please.
missmarple @ 63:
No. No at all.
"The essence of psychological warfare is to confuse the meaning of words
and to infiltrate the mind with conflicting concepts."-
♣Bangkok Bob♠ @ 30:
Site Monitors, That seems to happen mostly when it sees the brackets for the (bold or strong) in the first word of a post.
[Same thing I was thinking, BB, though I can't be sure. The inner workings of the spam filter are beyond the monitors' view. Site Monitor]
missmarple @ 63:
[emphasis added]
The key difference being our reactions: When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, we declared war on Japan, not China.
So let's bomb every country on the planet that may someday in the future pose a threat, whether or not they will actually pose a threat is immaterial.
Let's not forget Feith's other recent classic, that only "assholes" care about torture:
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/feith_only_assholes_fr...
I concur also that Tommy Franks said all that needs to be said about Douglas Feith. The only question is what do we do with him?
Someday they won't let you
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Leslie @ 69:
Exactly it's called the Pre Emptive Doctrine. A fancy term for Barbarism.
RueMorgue @ 72:
Careful, you might be guilty of, gasp thoughtcrime
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L.A. Confidential @ 75:
And yet they GIVE AWAY 30 Billion of our Taxpayer dollars to bail out their corporate buddies.
c'mon .. it's not "either-or" wrt "pre-emptive strike against terrorists" versus "oil & halliburton etc"
It was a "pre-emptive strike" to protect the long term interests of the oil companies from the "terrorists" ..
The War Jesus said:
DO UNTO THEM BEFORE THEY DO UNTO YOU
Book of Hypocrites 23:17
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“Our main goal was ... was preventing the next attack."
By the same reasoning, how many countries in the last quarter-century would have been justified in attacking the United States? Nicaragua had its harbors mined, Cuba was under continual threat, Libya and Sudan were bombed. Those countries and more could have, by Feith's reasoning, had reason to take action against the U.S.A.
The big difference, of course, is that those other countries are so much smaller and less powerful than the U.S.A. and therefore wouldn't have got away with it. But the fact it could get away with attacking another country doesn't make what Washington did right. It's a hell of an argument to say the bully was in the right because his victim couldn't retaliate.
RueMorgue @ 79:
Nice catch guys.
I keep hearing about how Saddam used chemical weapons against his own people. These chemical weapons were made by the US and sold to Iraq to fight Iran. Cheney and Rumsfeld knew what Hussein was going to do with them but ignored that fact. They are just as responsible of killing the Kurds as Hussein was. And the reason why Hussein wanted to "teach the Kurds a lesson" was because the CIA didn't have Hussein on their side initially and they went to the Kurds to try to overthrow Hussein. But when Hussein saw this, he changed his mind and ally himself with the US. The CIA dropped the Kurds like a hot potato. Hussein then retaliated with the gassing. The United States has killed 100's of millions of people because of their selfish greedy sideshows.
scooter @ 40:
Well, if the Texas Board of Education continues to choose history texts that glorify every screwup in our history, they will probably learn what a proud victory we had in Iraq, and how nice it is that we are still there. I mean, your son is only about 12 to13 years away from reading those history texts, so, according to McCain we'll still have a lot of years to go.
No! Ya don't say!
AP - 11 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Members of Congress have as much as $196 million collectively invested in companies doing business with the Defense Department, earning millions since the onset of the Iraq war, according to a study by a nonpartisan research group.
♣Bangkok Bob♠ @ 81:
Rue up to his shenanigans again?
[No. He answered your off topic comment, which I also deleted-Sitemonitor]
A five-year occupation, which has cost 4,000 American lives and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives, which bankrupted the U.S. treasury and cost our country its reputation in the world, was a "defensive move?"
My God, what an arrant fool. This man was #3 in the State Department? God help us.
L.A. Confidential @ 84:
The study found that more Republicans than Democrats hold stock in defense companies, but that the Democrats who are invested had significantly more money at stake. In 2006, for example, Democrats held at least $3.7 million in military-related investments, compared to Republican investments of $577,500.
mrplow @ 20:
The thought process, though not communicated this way, was to liberate the Iraqi Oil for Halliburton consumption enabling the gouging of the worlds pocket's. Chaos was the goal from day 1. In chaos no one would be able to track the corruption and positioning of the corporate armies that are rebuilding the Iraqi infrastructure (Oil pipes) to be secure against the population of the public for which it belongs. Never did the administration aim to protect the populace, listen to the military leadership, plan an end game, or prevent chaos. All evidence points to the administration relishing in CHAOS! The PR work that the cronies are putting out are just to keep those that support the chaos in place when in fact their pocketbooks are getting lighter as well. The ultimate goal...."If this were a dictatorship it would be a whole heck of alot easier, Heh heh heh....just so long as I'm the dictater. Heh Heh Heh."
Isn't this a classic definition of "revisionist history"?
Why, yes, I believe it is.
L.A. Confidential @ 85:
Oh. Thanks. Sorry.
L.A. Confidential @ 84:
can you give us link on that LAC, I'd like to go read it.
A prerequisite to be a part of this criminal administration: you must not be in touch with reality, and you need to be really, really good at lying with a straight face.
Nothing new here folks. These clones are all lying sleezebags. What bothers me more is how they get the free ride from the interviewers and the media at large. Call these assholes on these lies and crimes. Instead, they give them a platform to confuse the weak minded public.
They ALL need to be tried as war criminals....every f*cking one of them.
♣Bangkok Bob♠ @ 91:
http://www.capitaleye.org/inside.asp?ID342
Jeannie See @ 43:
This was my jaw dropping moment while reading that article:
"Ideas arose from other sources. The first year of Fox TV’s dramatic series 24 came to a conclusion in spring 2002, and the second year of the series began that fall. An inescapable message of the program is that torture works. “We saw it on cable,” Beaver recalled. “People had already seen the first series. It was hugely popular.” Jack Bauer had many friends at Guantánamo, Beaver added. “He gave people lots of ideas.”
So our policy is now guided by a TV show about a fictional terror stopping super-Agent. What other policy will now be built from watching cable TV shows? Yep, it's a wonder that the Republicans don't select Jack Bauer to run for president. He's so much tougher on terror than McCain.
Wonder what garbage will come out next?
#63 In a simplistic way ? Hardly , it was blatant as can be , I knew it , many of us did and so did the Dems and the Republicans who backed Bush , Cheney and good old Donald but they were ( are ) all self serving gutless politicians , chicken hawk freaks , cowards and liars . It's absolute fact that Cheney and Rumsfeld wanted to invade Iraq long before 9 11 , without question they used 9 11 as an excuse and with the help of a gutless and complicit media the majority of an ignorant population took the bait while a minority of us knew exactly what was happening , it was as plain as day . These neocon lunatics are right up there with the worst in all of history . This is not a war and has nothing to do with terrorism , it was a Soviet / Nazi style invasion andan occupation . The reason ? OIL and Israel . 9 11 was the war monger neonut dream come true , it's in print for cryin out loud , the PROJECT FOR THE NEW AMERICAN CENTURY , take a look at who this group consists of and who signed the declaration ! Feith , Bush , Cheney , Rumsfeld and all involved should be standing trial at the Hague , they are criminals , not opinion but fact .
These are evil times; the laws of the land are used against the citizens while the wealthy criminal class do as they like. As a pacifist, I am now irrelevant and can do nothing. I fear that the time has come for more extreme measures. I fear that a new "Weather Underground" will soon surface and more chaos and body counts will be forthcoming. More and more people are being seriously hurt by this "conservative" (illegitimate and criminal) government and the ensuing rage will not be pretty. Innocents blood will be both the by-product and the harvest.
L.A. Confidential @ 93:
Thanks, it will be a good read with my morning cuppa
Pursang @ 94:
[emphasis added]
A show where the POTUS who's near the end of his second term, realizing the abject failure of 7+ years in office, renditions his Veep to GTMO before- LITERALLY- falling on his sword?
I'd watch it.
Feith worked with a guy named Zell in a lobbying and law firm in the 90's. Feith Zell lobbied on behalf of Northrup Grumman, Lockheed Martin, and Ahmed Chalabi and the Iraqi National Congress. When he was in the pentagon, Feith steered no-bid contracts to Halliburton and Northrup Grumman, and sent Ahmed Chalabi to Iraq with suitcases full of US cash.
Coincidently, Feith doesn't seem to be short of cash himself.
http://www.counterpunch.org/pringle09092005.html
Mick Fowler @ 96:
The penetration last week of Bear Stearns by peeved mortgagees are the very first sign of a much broader citizen revolt against the extraordinary protections being shown to crapped-out investment banker boyz.
http://tinyurl.com/22btyz
L.A. Confidential @ 100:
The only reason i can see for being back there would be to protest this administration.
I'll come for that.
This is another of the tough talking pussies that made up the Vulcans. This arrogant prick is a loud barker, but would beg for mercy if confronted by a random 5th grader.
Hey Doug, walk the walk. Say 30 days of walking the perimeter of the Emerald City. When you come back then I'll listen tough guy.
Wow!
He really is the dumbest guy on the planet?
(Apologies for not reading through the comments, since I'm sure a similar sentiment exists northward.)
John O @ 103:
No need to apologize for telling the truth. It bears repeating. Over and over.
Andy "George W. Bush has never been elected. The ‘Machine’ took it and gave it to him." K Jong Il @ 98:
Now that would be a sweeps week blockbuster!
I guess it's impossible to be wrong on Iraq Doug if you constantly change your stupid ass oil profiteering mercenary reasons. Douglas, you must suck a good one to have gotten such an important job.
[Don't post someone's e-mail address here.period.It's a quick way to get banned.By the way, I have yours..Site Monitor.]
another scott pelley interview, right?
Brian @ 4:
I am wondering the exact same thing. These people are proven traitors and liars, why no consequences? Douglas Feith and Elliot Abrahms should be shipped off to Guantanamo- they are proven dangerous to the security of the United States.
UGH! bein "speechless" as a response to neo-cons was appropriate seven years ago.
Drop the outrage and Do Something, liberals!
L.A. Confidential @ 84:
where is diane feinstein on that list? barbara boxer? nancy pelosi?
if the courts don't deal with these people, we the people will have to.
L.A. Confidential @ 73:
It actually is called the Bush Doctrine.
[Watch the All Bold stuff, would you? Site Monitor]
your zionest tax dollars at work!!!!!!!!!!
In a nation of laws Feith would have been incarcerated or executed years ago.
Oh christ, not another four-eyed Republican draft-dodger. I'll bet he really, really loves baseball, too. The whole fucking lot of them should be taken out and shot.
no wander they can debate the lies. they're too rich to see the truth!
Alternately, a f*ckin' liar or shameless dissembler.
This criminal actually wields political power....
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Pechorin @ 116:
AFTER a speedy trial, OK?
the richest of the executive branch!
@ Amato; I was reading the 60 minutes article when I came across this
Is this statement accurate? Because the Bathists weren't the only insurgeants in 2003 and 2004. Just because Rumfeld said the insurgeants were 'dead enders' doesn't mean they were all Bathists. I think Fallujah is evidence enough that the insurgeancy, is not a unified beast.
What lies will Feith produce new month? Only time will tell....
Terrible @ 115:
A-fucking-men. The law can catch up with these assholes, if the will of the people is strong enough.
"NOW can we ship these suckers to the Hague?"
Agreed. ALL OF THEM.
I thought everyone new Iraq had nothing to do with 911?
The reason they went into Iraq was they saw a way to steal huge sums of money from the us treasury while trying to get holee of even more money by controling the oil ! From the look of the profits of the oil companies the have succeded beyond their wildest dreams, and the poor stupid republican fools that voted for bush/chenny are still to stupid to understand how much pain and suffering they have caused.
I can only hope and pray that these same supporters get to suffer at least as much as the Iraqi people have suffered.
As far as I am concerned republicans can kiss my ass!!!!
9/11 was the excuse. Neocons were the main drivers and it was done on behalf of Israel. Oil argument does not stand. U.S. already has bases in gulf and carriers.
Feith is partially correct. The invasion of Iraq was not a retaliation for the 9-11 attacks. The Iraq invasion was planned well in advance of 9-11-2001. We know that the people controlling Bush wanted to massively cut taxes on their corporate sponsors and people, like themselves, with substantial inherited fortunes. They wanted to weaken government protections of the environment, children, the poor, the elderly, the ozone layer, and our nation's forests. They wanted oil and mining-interests to have more access to public lands.
We know they wanted to undo Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal by stripping the American workplace (particularly government and schools) of unions, rolling back "socialist" unemployment and Social Security programs, and eliminating SEC and tort restraints on predatory corporate behavior. They'd even campaigned on this platform - particularly Social Security privatization - back in 1978 when Bush unsuccessfully ran for Congress from Texas.
We know they wanted to increase the police power of the federal government, gut the First and Fourth Amendments, and thus create a "safe and orderly nation" of people under constant surveillance, who never question those in power.
We know they wanted to give billions of our tax dollars to churches they approved of, and bring their leaders into the halls of government. They wanted to pass laws incorporating religious dogma about when human life begins, what is appropriate sexuality, and free churches to use tax-exempt dollars to influence politics.
It was an ambitious agenda. In order to bring about this neoconservative paradise, Bush's controllers knew they would need considerable political capital. And that kind of capital didn't come from his being selected as President by the Supreme Court.
Such political capital - such raw political power - would only come, they believed, by his becoming a "war president."
It was a war for political power. Everything else - oil, profits, ongoing PATRIOT Act powers, easy manipulation of the media - all could only come if political power was seized and held through at least two decisive election cycles.
The Bush administration lied us into an invasion to get and keep political power. It's that simple. 9-11 was just a little extra smokescreen.
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Dear Doug,
What was the invasion of Iraq about again?
It's been so long since we went there. Please relearn it to us.
Why did America choose IRAQ as it's target?
Was it the WMD'S?
Was it those TIES TO AL-CIA-DUH?
Was it that YELLOW CAKE URANIUM FROM NIGER?
Was it for those MOBILE BIO-CHEM WEAPONS PLANTS?
Was it about AN IMMINENT THREAT?
Was it those ALUMINUM TUBES?
Was it to intercept SUITCASE NUKES?
Was it about MUSHROOM CLOUDS?
Was it even FACTUAL?
Was it even TRUTHFUL?
Thanks,
America.
XOXO
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Jeannie See @ 7:
YES IT IS.
The supreme crime.
The exact crime the German Nazi Party was tried for during the Nuremberg Trials.
WAR CRIME OF THE 21st CENTURY
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Hey Feith,
A big FUCK YOU asshole.
Now I feel better.
I wear a suit. I have two post graduate degrees. I was a finalist to be a Rhode scholar. I make $310,000 a year not including my stock options as a "consultant" for several "security" firms. I make more decisions before noon than most people make in 5 years. I kill babies. I kill mothers. Then I lie and deflect. I kill poor people. I have stock options with Halliburton. I kill dark people. I work in the Bush administration and consider myself a libertarian. I like torture. I wear a suit. I have two post graduate degrees.
I would give my right nut to see these criminal traitor sociopaths swinging from the neck with rusty piano wire.
If any of these neocons were drowning, I'd pull them up, knee them in the balls, then tie a cement block around their necks and toss'em. If we had half the gumption of 1776, there would be a million angry Americans storming the Whitehouse with pitchforks and torches ablaze.
The biggest bunch of assholes ever shat out of the Repugnant party.
A lying War Criminal.
President PNACcio @ 126:
President PNACcio @ 126:
Sorry, too quick on the trigger. My comment was--Nice synopsis. Well done.
Upon the basis of Feith's reasoning; fear of what might happen in the future, I will forgo any trip to the Middle East, (and US) especially to Iran until most of the US administration (and some allies) are in the dock for war crimes. Particularly, in light of general Wesley Clark's (ret) interview on u tube wherein he says that in late September 2001 he was told at the Pentagon that; 'we" (the US) were going to war and do 7 countries in 5 years ending with Iran. Then he asked "why"? "don't know sir" was the reply.
Jesse Ventura, by the way, says he does not believe the official conspiracy theory. Fancy that, see 911blogger.com
Congratulations, fuck-head. You weren't retaliating for the deaths of 3,000 Americans on 9/11 so you took drastic measures to prevent future attacks by...
...Needlessly sacrificing 4,000 more Americans!
I got an extra plane ticket to France. Anybody wanna come?
Like if we didn't know! The attack on Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11. It was just an excuse for multibillions defence industrial investment for Bush and his minions. You can paint it any color you wish, the money making goal was the main idea.
Number of casualties, theirs or ours, who gives a fuck!
Dougy, what the _ _ _ k?
Can their stories ever be quarantined to just two major excuses? Just to make it simpler.
The truth we know, is out of the question.....
Let's try this one - see if we can sucker them in on this. It will work for a while then we can do another and another and another....
these men need to be put in jail. Before they put us in jail. Scum!
Of course it was not. He was or is a PNAC member and their agenda pre-existed 9/11.
9/11 helped to sell it all, Feith was actually one of many who, I must say this, had a good day on 9/11. They even asked for that new Pearl Harbor in their own blueprint, Rebuilding America's defences.
Of course it was not. He was or is a PNAC member and their agenda pre-existed 9/11.
9/11 helped to sell it all, Feith was actually one of many who, I must say this, had a good day on 9/11. They even asked for that new Pearl Harbor in their own blueprint, Rebuilding America's defences.
I'd also like to know what Sibel Edmunds can tell us about his activities.
was he also an ex-commissioner for the international arabian horse association?
if so, then i see a trend
60 Minutes has always been an arm of the Anti-Defamation League for Jews who have F##ked up. Google Robert Dreyfuss' "The Lie Factory' and Seymour Hersh's "The Stovepipe" written about the operation Feith ran in the bowels of the pentagon. He helped Bush/Cheney fabricate intelligence that would give Bush an excuse to go to war.
I pray one day that men like Feith will be brought up on charges of creating the biggest hoax ever perpertrated on the American people, which has resulted in untold misery for millions of Americans and Iraqis.
Don`t worry. This royal fuck-up is just practicing for his performance on the witness stand, come what may.
Either way you slice it, (nad this post is correct and valid), I find this VERY DISTURBING as well-->> "...the run-up to war says the attack on Iraq was more a defensive move against possible future threats from Saddam Hussein... "
Are any other countries seemingly threatening to the USA. How about we nasty Canadians? When is our invasion to come?
PS Most Canadians believe it will come: we may be "annexed", like Austria or the Sudetenland.
Basically Americans have been duped royally and Feith is one of the prime architects of the program.
He is the Isreali/Mossad mole in Washington.
" Iraq was a threat to America? Sure . In the 1st Gulf War the Iraqi Military put up a good fight. Get real."
Over 4000 American soldiers dead, 30,000 injured, over $1 trillion spent, the American federal debt has gone from $5 trillion to $ 10 trillion and no end on sight.
Good Plan Mr. Feith. You should be fired .
Feith’s justification for going to war with Iraq while conceding the fact that the same reasoning would also justify attacks on North Korea, Syria, and Iran makes his statement that much more implausible. After all, if expediency was necessary in launching a pre-emptive attack on any of the four countries named, due to their capability to deliver on their threat against the U. S., Iraq was probably the least likely country of the four to have had in place the resources needed to successfully accomplish it. Certainly, given time, he could have developed the means necessary. However, the state of his resources at that time do not support the urgency used to justify the attack or the ex post facto patriotic slogans later used as political cover. Additionally, Saddam’s past course of conduct pointed to the fact that although he was a regional threat and a brutal dictator, he was also pragmatic, and acted primarily for his own benefit and regime’s continued security.
Okay lets take his comments at face value..... so why did the administration think the next terrorist attack would come from Iraq???? or Iraq would have a hand in it? Iraq never attacked the U.S. in the past. Why not invade Saudi Arabia, or Egypt or Pakistan or Yemen, countries far closer to where the actuall terrorist attacks were coming from? Either his logic does not make sense or these guys were incredibility stupid. Probably a little of both.
The more you look at the decision making of the Bush administration the more it seems like all of these guys are just plain dumb. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc... none of these guys are particular rocket scientists.... may be it is as simple as they are all just very stupid people. At least Bill Clinton and Obama have some intellectual rigor.... the Bush adminstration are just a bunch of frat boys that know how to play viscious politics... unfortunately they got this country into a lot of trouble and set the country back many many years... very sad really..... and the American public just eats it up....
it will be very funny if the American public elects John McCain, a guy who graduated third from the bottom of the nearly 1,000 graduates during his graduation year at the U.S. Naval Academy... another dumber than a door knob all politics leader... on top of that you would be electing the oldest president ever... it would really just be a continuation of the current clueless administration... come on America we can do better than this... McCain is already showing his age and stupidity with the comments he has been making about the middle east, the Iraq war and foreign policy, supposively his strong points... very laughable... basically you are getting a stupid guy, that used his wifes beer money and family connections to propel him into politics... he then trades off his war and POW record.... sure he has taken some admirable stands in the past that go against his party (immigration), but he has flip flopped and back pedalled on almost all of that now... I think he is ok in the Senate, but far from Presidential material......
the U.S. has tried the military option, it has not worked..... now it is time for a different direction... fighting terrorism is a police and spy action... that requires a lot of help from your friends... it is also about fighting the causes of terrorism....... daisy cutters, marines, and F16s are likely not effective and create more problems than they likely stop...
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