Joe Lieberman on Obama's credibility gap
By scarce Wednesday Apr 02, 2008 9:00am
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Joltin' Joe went on Fox on April Fool's Day and said Barack Obama was not credible on the Iraq War debate. No, he really did. Talk about your pot calling the kettle....uh, nevermind.
LIEBERMAN: Well, I think that - let me say generally that Sen. Obama doesn't come to this debate with a lot of credibility. Basically on the question of Iraq, John McCain has had the guts to stand out on his own arguing for what he thought was right. And it turned out that he was right about the surge working to improve conditions in Iraq.
If we did what Sen. Obama wanted us to do last year, Al-Qaeda in Iran would be in control of Iraq today. The whole Middle East would be in turmoil and American security and credibility would be jeopardized.
On the specific question of the 100 years, I think that's an unfortunate example of the way Sen. Obama has used it, of playing political gotcha with a national security question.
Update: John Amato: OK, we know McCain had to be corrected by Lieberman when he said that Al-Qaeda was being trained in Iran, a major gaffe for the man running on his foreign policy experience, but what's Joe's excuse? Seems like he's planting this one on purpose. In an email exchange with Digby, she said that it worked so well with Saddam and 9/11.
And Jane has a suggestion: "Maybe all the national Democrats busy lobbing grenades at each other could spare a few for Slummy Joe?"
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Of course this was on April Fool's day.
i always lose so much hope when i hear this blog say something like "it appears they're saying these lies on purpose"
NO SHIT!
McCain mooches off his wife.
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Come on people do we really want to inflict this on ourselves?
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What's up with the photoshopping of LIEberman's mouth?
Obama mat not have a huge amount of experience at the federal level, but he has a hellavu lot more credibility than Lieberman. And more than any repug ,for that fact.
Translation: "Israel would have to defend itself."
Credibility?!? What credibility do we have left?
Just askin' Joe.
I wonder what excuse Harry Reid is using for not having booted Lieberquisling out of the chair of his committee.
Anyone ever have the thought Hell might not actually be a place thats somewhere else other then here?
Hey Joe, yeah you, old fool. The crowning achievement of 'playing politics on a national security question' goes to your President, George Bush. When in 2002, to win an election, he used 9/11 as a tool to bludgeon the Democrats as weak and cowardly on national security, when at that point the country had been brought together by the tragedy that was 9/11. but then Rove, followed by his lapdog, Bush, saw that he could exploit it for political gain, successfully in 2002, and again in 2004. they hammered the Dems on national security, and still do, but after the voters overwhelmingly repudiated their fear mongering in 2006, it's not going to work again, Joe. the voters are on to you 'eternal war neo-con listening' hawks. youre wrong now, as you were wrong then. you are an independent in name only. im very glad you dont represent me.
"Al Qaeda in Iran" again?
And no Obama has no credibility on Iraq except for being 100% correct long before the war even started..
Paul @ 8:
He wouldn't have a bud to go drink beer with after the daze work.
galmud @ 11:
Al Qaeda is beginning to sound like a candy bar or something they use it so much.
I think Al Qaeda is in Israel. Now what you got Liberman? Why do you think there's so many bombings inside Israel?
Different Anonymous @ 7:
No credibility whatsoever.
Yeah and with 100-200 nuclear warheads and one of the world strongest armies how could poor defenseless Israel possibly defend themselves?
Paul @ 8:
I think it has to do with maintaining the Democratic majority in the Senate. Giving Lieberman the chairmanship kept him from going to the Republican caucus.
boycott Connecticut for giving the nation this jerk......over Ned Lamont taboot...
i thought we had rubes here in ohio.....but lieberman over lamont is unforgivable.
I'm so tired of the argument that "al Qaeda would be in control" of Iraq. Why does nobody in the MSM objectively look at this ridiculous argument and pick it apart? I guess that is asking too much.
JeffS @ 16:
Face it. He's a wimp.
Austin @ 18:
You have to be a mindless lackey who only knows how to follow orders to work in todays MSM.
Real reporters-journalists are an endangered species.
"Cindy McCain's Fortune Provides Senator With Private Jets, Vacation Homes"
How come the Right Wing Nuts aren't doing a Theresa Heinz Kerry job on McDuke?
Austin @ 18:
It's a brand name. Simple. Easy to remember. Stupid America's collective brain would start to hurt if they were informed that "al Qaeda in Iraq" is merely a ragtag group of Sunni free-lancers.
Let's talk about Holy Joe's credibility gap.
And don't forget that crazy joe is the idiot that wants submarines to fight al-Qaida.
Passenger manifest for the Slow Boat to Haifa.
Start with Joe, the Kagans, the rest of AEI, and the (former) DoD fuckups.
Okay let's get the hell with with it here and move on to a new thread before I vomit looking at Joe.
Hup Hup!!!
Austin @ 18:
Its an insult to Iraqis. That they somehow are mindless sheep who without the "protection" of US military will just blindly follow Al Qaedas twisted extreme Islamic worldview.
All Iraqis hate Al Qaeda. They are nothing but murderous foreign terrorists and they are not welcome in Iraq
Lieberman, you dunce, Iran is Shia, al Qaeda is Sunni. Iran and al Qaeda don't like each other, and there is no al Qaeda in Iran. There was no al Qaeda in Iraq either, until after we invaded.
The Middle East is in turmoil. American security and credibility has been jeopardized.
Don't you read the newspapers? 1) the biggest al Qaeda supporters are in Saudi Arabia...our allies. 2) Terrorism attacks have increased since the Iraq invasion 3) Al Qaeda moved to Pakistan and has been operating and recruiting there
MCLame "miss spoke" three times!!! When you say the wrong thing that many times you are the one deceiving the public.
It is obvious they are trying to confuse Americans into thinking otherwise.
LIEberman is an old used tool.
Egad! I've just boiled down the neo-con iraq argument to its most basic form.
If things turned into such a colossal clusterf@#k when we acted so bravely and righteously and did everything right, imagine how badly they would have turned out if we had listened to the misguided cowards with their stuupid suggestions.
Does Obama get a take-it-back for choosing Lieberman as his mentor in the Senate and for campaigning for him?
We need to kick Joe Lieberman out of the Democratic side of the House, since Harry Reid won't do it for us.
"If we did what Sen. Obama wanted us to do last year, Al-Qaeda in Iran would be in control of Iraq today. The whole Middle East would be in turmoil and American security and credibility would be jeopardized."
And the moon would have exploded, and all poodles would have lost the curl in their hair and SUV's wouldn't run and the oceans would have dried up.
I'm telling you if we did what Sen Obama wanted, lot of bad shit would have happened. Joe has this amazing ability to create fictional disasters and stuff.
Joe in SF @ 32:
Get your facts stright. Obama supported Lamont in the general election.
galmud @ 15:
Exactly. And why is it that OUR gov't has tied Israel's hands numerous times when she wanted to conduct military operations? (Pre-Lebanon, that is).
L.A. Confidential @ 21:
More importantly -- why aren't the DEMS doing it to McSame?
How much cred does Lieberman have?
He made the ultimate flip-flop, and they even put an (I) after his name to designate his support for Israel.
As soon as Loserman said the surge is working, he should have been corrected with, "Senator, the surge is over, and our own military leaders have admitted that it had little lasting effect. When do you plan to stop using it as a talking point, or is it now this administrations policy to simply ignore what the generals say."
“If we did what Sen. Obama wanted us to do last year, Al-Qaeda in Iran would be in control of Iraq today."
Maybe he said "Al-Quaeda AND Iran"
Dr. Acula @ 37:
Because we don't have a presumptive nominee yet, and it's preventing the us from getting organized.
Sometimes for fleeting moments I wonder if I am completely wrong about everything and then I see someone like Joe Lieberman and all comes back into focus. Ether he knows that the surge didn't do what the intent was and is lying or is completely uninformed on what the surge was supposed to do in the first place. I am going with he is a lying liar.
Leslie @ 41:
That's great, so now we will have months of partisan bickering and backstabbing between HRC and BHO while McLame has free reign to be a "maverick".
RayC @ 42:
I don't care, just wish he'd put himself out of our misery.
Dr. Acula @ 43:
Pretty much, yup.
RayC @ 42:
"In order to do the devils work you have to believe your doing something right".
Another one of those cool quotes.
Leslie @ 44:
No no no no no don't you see these freaks of nature have NO intention of stopping?
Look at Kissinger who's STILL one of the key henchmen bossing and ordering people around on this planet.
He'll be 99 and still running the NWO while hooked up to an IV drip.
L.A. Confidential @ 21:
they hate katsup more?
Did anyone notice that holy Joe quoted The Sermon on the Mount that is the teachings of Jesus? I thought the Jews did not believe in the New Testament and Jesus. Total hypocrite.
merg @ 40:
Sounds more like "in" but quite possibly he said "and", because later he makes distinction between Iran and al Qaeda.
But still the Iraqis would never let al Qaeda control their country. They are despised by all and have no influence whatsoever in Iraq.
L.A. Confidential @ 46:
I have gone over this over and over. For years I have gone back and forth on if Republicans believe what they say. Sometimes I think it is not possible to believe the crapola that spews from their mouths, then again how can someone keep all the lies straight in their minds. It would drive me crazy.
L.A. Confidential @ 47:
I wish I knew what makes these turdballs so invulnerable.
I mean we are at a point where people are starting to say things like. . . " Just die will you!! Please for everyones sake!!!!! "
You'd think soon or later the farts would get the message and let young people have their shot at things and assembling a world they can be proud of.
it was AND Iran, not in Iran, we wish huh?
Somebody needs to tell this fuck Lieberman that nobody wants to see him on TV anymore.
tricia @ 49:
Joe flip flops on Jesus just like he flip flops on everything else.
The Political Junkie @ 33:
Sometimes Dems remind me of an abused party in a dysfunctional relationship. The Dem base is sticking through thick and thin with a leadership which never gave a shit about them, esp the DLC types. Yet the base longs for the good ol' days, and putting with all the abuse... because "one day he may change."
People never change, if Reid, Pelosi et al want to enable the GOP. So be it... But the Dem base should leave in droves and/or create an alternative. Remember, Reid and his merry bunch of idiots need us more than we need them. Enough of all this pussy footing; facing down and playing dead is not a political strategy.
I think you could cover the fact that Mcsame whooed and courted his current wife, while married to his first wife, who happened to be crippled. So McSame comes home from the war and says wtf this wont work, I got a crippled wife, oh wait a minute here is a blond hottie with money, that'll do.
See, John Amato: I told you they were doing this stupid shit on purpose.
Senior moments my hairy black ass.
It's a setup to get the public to buy into a war/preemptive strike on Iran. They're using Al-Qaeda as the bullseye.
It's like this: let's say the Neo-Cons want a war. But the public doesn't want one.
Here's some 'examples'
(Insert country or area here)________is training and funding Al-Qaeda! We must strike the terrorists before they strike us!
whereas
Bob's Deli in Chicago, Illinois is training and funding Al-Qaeda! We must strike the terrorists before they strike us!
I don't think anyone in politics is more annoying to me than Joe Lieberman. I suppose that is because I see him and remember that I voted for him in 2000.
John F A @ 52:
They can afford to see a physician every time they get a sniffle or a minor pain and have a full body scan done
for what to them is the equivilant cost of a pack of smokes.
The rest of us herds have to settle for asprin or advil or jack daniels, and hope and pray we die a swift sudden and painless death.
Joe Lieberman = putz!
He also always manages to quote the bible.
Mike @ 58:
And what the hell she saw in him is beyond my ability to imagine. I suppose she was yearning to marry her dad or something but that wouldn't quite fly in public so she had to find an equivalent.
I get it now. The republicans have rode the gay rights and abortion horse to the ground so now it is Mexcuns and Bomb bomb Iran! Joe Joe Joe....you truly are a stupid idiot and got news flash for Joe and the Republicans....that dog ain't gonna hunt anymore....the american people...the majority are tired of being frightened of boogie men mexcuns and iran. If you do not offer a solution to the problems this fall GOP...you will return to the status you deserve and had after 64 and 72. The political dustbind...but this time no third time the charm.
John F A @ 52:
Either God is an asshole, and thus he favors these types of people. Or, God is nice and wants to keep these assholes away from the afterlife as long as possible, and thus the longevity of these types. After all, how can you explain that Hitler survived a shit load of assassination attempts, while Ghandi was taken out quite easily...
Lieberman is a good patriot.....just look at the way he sticks his neck out for McCain no matter how much YOU might think it stinks!He gets his nose right to the troubled spots for John.
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Mike @ 58:
I don't think she was crippled, the first wife however stuck with him through all his years as a POW. It seems that for McCain (no need to make McLame jokes, Cain by itself is bad enough) loyalty is only a one way street...
If we had done what Obama ACTUALLY thought we should do, we never would have gotten involved in this needless waste of a war in the first place. Poor Joe. In the end he's going to be shunned by Democrats and will shack up with Republicans who will tolerate his presence because he's occassionally useful politically but not worth truly respecting any longer.
The Dude @ 67:
Crippled,short and too chunky for John.
http://www.usvetdsp.com/mcaindiv.htm
I don't understand why the Democrats don't disavow this man and remove him from his chairman position. I think he calls himself an "Independent Democrat" and we need to let this ass know that there is so such thing. If he wants to call himself an Independent or an Independent Republican that's fine but it should be made clear to him that he is, in no way, a Democrat and bar him from using the word Democrat in his made-up positon.
Does anyone think McCrazy will pick Holy Joe as VP and try to sell it as bipartisanship?
I have my problems with Obama but Holy Joe is not the one to point out deficiencies in anyone.
It might be noted that when Lieberman ran for the Senate in 2006 his good buddy Obama came to a fund raiser in CT and urged the Democratic voters to reelect Holy Joe because he was such a great senator.
The Dude @ 65:
You're assuming that God exists and, if he does, that he/she/it cares.
Leslie @ 72:
Yep, if he does exist he/she/it has the sickest sense of humor ever!
Pat J @ 71:
As did Bill Clinton. This was in the primary. After he was defeated they both supported Lamont. And that is why Lieberman is pissed.
Oh, McCains first wife was in an automobile accident while he was a POW. She was a model when he married her, but the accident left her shorter and fater. Not to his liking.
Lieberman is going to be annoying for the rest of the year. Then he gets stripped of his committee and seniority by the dems. He can play martyr until Mossad trades a pack of gum to get him back.
You mean to say the middle east is NOT in turmoil, and that our security and credibility has NOT been jeopardized?
Monica Liebermann?
SassySandy @ 74:
She looked too much like him?
Sam in Austin TX @ 62:
A putz is Yiddish for penis, and is Pennyslvanian Dutch for Christmas creche.
I always want to put a big decorated penis in my front yard on X-mas, but my homeowners association looks askance at that.
Lieberman quotes the bible at the end. The last refuge for a scoundrel.
Dr. Acula @ 36:
yes i say let israel nuke the crap out of everyone! after all whats a nuke for if not to kill everybody!!!!!!!god wars good !!!
As much as I dislike Sen . Lieberman, I think this was a "sphincter said what" moment.
He actually said "Al-Qaeda AND Iran...", but he says it under his breath in such a way that it happens to sound like "Al-Qaeda in Iran"
Didn't Obama stump for this old fool in Ct? If so, he got what he deserves from this two-timing weasel.
I'm really disappointed at the comments here. We all know what joe's gonna say, why is it no one commented on the fact that suzanne summers is allowed to "interview" him?? How can any rational American think there's any merit to this "interview" at all?! As she smirks 'congrats on your comeback'. God help us!!! Where have you gone walter cronkite...
correction: she says 'comeback, would ya', but a biased interview nonetheless.
I've said this before and I will say it again. Sorry if you have read it already.
The thing about McCain, Lieberman and Bush is they will never be able to solve the war because they do not understand it. They do not understand the players. Lieberman says Al Qaeda would be in control of Iraq today? That is just STUPID!!! The Iraqis will kick their sorry butts out (no matter what McCain and his best buddy forever thinks) in a matter of hours after the U.S. leaves. The Iraqis hate Al Qaeda as much as they hate the U.S. for invading. You can bet your bottom $ that no Iraqi will be told what to do by some Al Qaeda nut who all of Iraq hate. McCain (and it looks like Lieberman as well) does not even know who Al Qaeda is. Obviously the same is true with Bush. All you will see of Al Qaeda is the dust they kick up as they run for Afghanistan. Iraq will kick Al Qaeda out just like they will do to the Iranians, "Thanks for the help. Now get the hell out." They don’t get the dynamics of country being invade by foreign powers. What would happen if the U.S. pulled out of Iraq immediately? What would happen next? This is what would happen - The Shia tell Iran "Thanks for the help, now leave. Get out of our country." That is the part the neocon war mongers can't seem to understand. Everybody says that Iran will take over Iraq. Or they will have so much influence that Iraq will essentially become part of Iran. Well that will NOT happen. Iraq is Iraq. They don't want to be told what to do by Iran. Just like they don’t want to be told what to do by the U.S. Remember when Saddam invaded Kuwait, Saudi Arabia let the U.S. stage in their country to throw Saddam out of Kuwait. And Egypt helped the coalition in that war. Both those countries are Sunni. Saddam was Sunni. In fact Egypt harbored an exiled Saddam many years ago but Egypt helped throw Saddam out of Kuwait. Being from the same sect did not help Saddam. Saddam didn't listen to Saudi Arabia when it came to Kuwait and Saudi Arabia is Sunni like Saddam. Saudi Arabia let the coalition stage in Saudi Arabia to attack Saddam, a Sunni. Why would Iraq listen to any other country, i.e. Iran or Syria or anybody else? Why would they let Iran tell them what to do? So you see that just because part of Iraq and Iran are the same sect you cannot assume that Iraqi Shia will let Iranian Shia tell them what to do. The Iraqis are only letting Iran help them because Iraq wants the U.S. out! As far as the Kurds go they have it figured out. They're having BBQ on Saturday nights (probably). And the Sunni? They will have to figure out how to have their own area. Joe Bidden knows how this will work out. Most of them have left the country anyway. It will work out without us. The neocon war profiteers don't get it or they want this war to continue for financial reasons. You know this. I know this. 82% of the U.S. knows this. Getting out is the dilemma. The Republicans think that staying in is the delimma. I'm sure the military can figure out how the hell to leave. They don't have to worry about all the junk they brought with them. Most of it is trash at this time anyway. It's worn out. Used up. Just get on a plane and leave. Remember Iraq was better off with Saddam. I've said it many times. Nobody wanted to say it at the time but it is true. Let's pack it up and leave tomorrow. You are either with me or... um... ah... won't get fooled again.
ysbaddaden @ 79:
Are you communist? Do you live on a commune. You let these putz' tell you what to do?
tricia @ 49:
You're wrong. Jews don't believe in Jesus as the son of God and the Messiah but there is nothing in Judaism that says that the teachings of Jesus are necessarily wrong. There's nothing hypocritical for a Jew to quote Jesus as long as he is not claiming that Jesus' teachings are the word of God.
East shit, Joe.
What's with the blonde Faux-bot's talking about Obama criticizing McSame's call for a "100 troop presence"? Hmmm, I gues SHE misspoke also.
And LIEberman once again hits us with the "he misspoke" (in reference to McLame).
F*ck.Them.All.
Yup! McCain and Lieberman prepping the way for us to invade Iran, either now or iof McCain becomes president.
This really isn't a sarcastic question . . . does ANYONE actually listen to Lieberman . . . aside from the knuckle-draggers that is.
Lieberman is the most disgusting weasel of all. "Let me quote from the bible to win back you ignorant goy."
Lieberman is a foreign agent. Period. He is a traitor.
FYI:
Both Bush 41 AND Israel had a vested interest in compromising Clinton. Remember Hillary's VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY comment? It referred to Bush 41 and Israel - the Conspirators behind the California Energy Crisis that cleared the path for the CHENEY ADMINISTRATION, 9/11, and the INVASION OF THE MIDDLE EAST.
As long as we're setting the record straight, Lewinsky was a "Swallow" (spy) for Mossad.
Israel set-up both Clinton and Gary Condit (with Chandra Levy) and others in order to compromise them and effectively blackmail them.
Why is Lieberman's name attached to these to "Swallows" - the term used to describe women in the employ of Israel whose job is to compromise US Officials) for Israel's Mossad?
Note that his article dated less than TWO MONTHS PRIOR TO 9/11.
Police to return to parks in Levy case
Experts: Condit damaged own reputation
July 22, 2001 Posted: 6:07 PM EDT (2207 GMT)
Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-Connecticut, said it wouldn't be productive to focus on Condit's conduct. In 1998, Lieberman was the first prominent Democrat to criticize Clinton for his affair with Monica Lewinsky.
Lieberman said the two matters are different and he declined to say whether Condit should resign, as two Republican lawmakers have said.
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/07/21/missing.intern/index.html
Falwell Confirms Lewinsky Affair Linked to Israeli Lobby Intrigue
By Michael Collins Piper
Television evangelist Jerry Falwell couldn’t resist bragging and finally admitting the truth: he and former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin “Bibi” Netanyahu did conspire—at a critical time—to trip up President Bill Clinton and specifically use the pressure of the Monica Lewinsky sex scandal to force Clinton to abandon pressure on Israel to withdraw from the occupied West Bank.
http://www.iamthewitness.com/by_MichaelCollinsPiper3.htm
FYI:
It appears that Chandra Levy had uncovered the planning within the government for 9/11 in the spring of 2001 - as she had access to Classified material through her boss, Gary Condit, who was on the Intelligence Committee.
Is it just supposed to be a MASSIVE COINCIDENCE that Condit's alibi as to the disappearance of Levy is that he was with Dick Cheney at the very moment she logged off her computer for the last time? You might say that Condit is Cheney's alibi too.
Did Cheney order the HIT on Levy in order to keep HIS 9/11 plan from being compromised?
It sure looks that way.
The fact that Mossad agents were caught red handed on 9/11 implies that Cheney outsourced the oversight of the ARAB PATSIES to Mossad. It may be that these Mossad Explosives Experts were additionally responsible for planting the Thermite in the WTC as well.
Here is ABC 20/20 on this subject in the aftermath of 9/11:
http://www.antichristconspiracy.com/HTML%20Pages/ABCNEWS_com_Were_Israel...
Sen Lieberman,
" First, let me attack Obama for a few minutes before answering you questions of McCain"
now,
" Let me say when McCain confuses things or lies and conflates the dangers of Iran to promote more war. It is just John harmlessly MISSPEAKING. Where as when ever Obama speaks it is truely unforgivable to lie like he does "
Lieberman stated once when asked why he is supporting McCain, " I've known John for a long time and we ar friends ".
The next question to lieberman should be, "so why do you hate Obama so much to not even support your own party's candidate"? And who else do you hate in your party enough not to support them?
"Al-Qaeda in Iran"
OR
"Al-Qaeda AND Iran"
Pretty easy out...
Joe Lieberman claims someone else has a credibility problem.
The statement speaks for itself.
nony @ 92:
Was Lori Klausutis a swallower too?
Wait don't answer yet I don't have my tin-foil hat on : )
Just kidding about the hat but not about my Lori Klausutis question....was she a swallow?
Lieberman reminds me of the kid on the playground who would "stir the pot," then run and hide behind the person who would protect him for that day. Go back to what you were doing before you became a political failure you chicken hawk.
Dr. Acula @ 5:
Photoshopped?
I thought Liebermann was just showing us why he is so popular with Republicans.
He should have a sign on his head with a downward arrow that says "Deposit Here".
John Mccain's Credibility is a lie or he has never read his Birth Certificate which says he was born in the city of Colon, Republic of Panama. Coco Solo Naval Hospital where John claims to have been born wasn't built until the Summer of 1941 and admitted to the Canal Zone on Dec 17, 1941. Franklin Roosevelt Executive Order 8981
Colon, Panama is Not in the Canal Zone.
Naturalization Act of 1790 which John and others also refer to was repealed by Naturalization Act of 1795 because the 1790 Act was Unconstitutional.
Joe in SF @ 32:
Somebody told you to say that by offering you a leggo set to play with. Anyone who researches knows Obama supported Lamont in the Senatorial election. Dopes like you kill me. Desperately trying to pin the silliest bullshit on Obama. Most public libraries offer literacy classes.
diamondmc @ 35:
Obama didn't "support" Lamont until about one week before the election, sending an email to about 5,000 Connecticut residents. He whole-heartedly supported Lieberman during the primary, and his "helpful" email went out October 26th, when Lieberman was then polling a double-digit lead over Lamont. Obama knew he wouldn't hurt his mentor, Lieberman, with only about a week til the election. Obama is Lieberman's boy.
I don't care how this ugly traitor fuck won/stole the Con. Senatorial election. If I were from Connecticut, I wouldn't tell anyone.
Zippity DaDa @ 101:
Sure. I can tell because their voting records are exactly the same.
nony @ 92:
Your tin-foil hat is on WAY too tight there, Nony!
I'll be damned, joe-lie is right, I heard a sound in my work shop this morning and right away I knew it was al kader. Being frozen with fear I could hardly dial the phone as I called our local gop sheriff for help. Soon we had 65 brave heros swarming my properity around my shop choppers overhead. Dressed head to toe in body armor,submachine gun and nite vision, the leader slipped a camera inside the shop. Yea its al kader all right he's wearing a mask, which caused me to faint dead away with fright. When I came to my work shop was a smoking cinder as well as my carport,the kids swingset and my flower garden. Both of my dogs were handcuffed and lying on the ground being questioned while two officers tased my cat, I had always wondered where that god damned cat went to at nite, They also found ten sharp retractable box cutter like deadly weapons on the cat.My rooster having crowed to warn the al kader agent had been shot,stabbed and hauled off to cuba. The al kader agent also known as "The raccoon" had somehow slipped away and was on the lose,still hating my freedoms. I was so very,very frightened, I was more than willing to vote for any gop after that, at least we are safe with them in charge. They also caught my rabbit chewing a pellet that might be used to make a bomb. Some of the brave officers risk death by chewing the rest of the pellets themselves so they would not explode. Boy do we feel safe now! Vote for mccain so we don't have to chew on the pellets ourselves. CEO
spin - spin - spin. Some of the bloggers do make their thinking visible, but mostly its spin - spin - spin.
Al Queda and Iran or Al Queda in Iran; the first makes no sense, since they are Sunni/Shiite enemies and the second is just plain idiotic, since Al Queda is not in Iran.
Nonetheless Joe is preaching to the "all Muslims are the same" crowd at Flux Noose, so the facts are just irritating obstacles that get in the way of his dogma.
The most powerful military in the world with hundreds of thousands of men can't control Iraq. And yet, Al-Qaeda, a few thousand strong, will somehow overrun Iraq as soon as we leave, install their government, and will become an oil company. The argument is so stupid, and no reasonable human being should make it. And yet, the "liberal" media does nothing about it. They let Lieberman, McCain, and Bush spread these lies, and make this public even dumber.
Here are the logical questions that need to be asked everytime a rethug says the surge is working:
1. by what metrics? are any metrics showing non-improvement? if so, how do you weight the metrics to come to a final appraisal?
2. given 1 is answered, at what rate are things improving? it isn't enough to improve by 0.00000000000001%
3. even if improvement is being made, what is the cost for this improvement? given that neoclassical economists (who conservatives love) like to do cost-benefit analyses of everything, what is the net benefit of the surge?
Dr. Acula @ 104:
you go nony!
rain @ 106:
Liebermann likes the spin cycle as much as horney women doing the laundry.
nony @ 92:
Lieberman is the most disgusting weasel of all. “Let me quote from the bible to win back you ignorant goy.”
Lieberman is a foreign agent. Period. He is a traitor.
FYI:
Both Bush 41 AND Israel had a vested interest in compromising Clinton. Remember Hillary’s VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY comment? It referred to Bush 41 and Israel - the Conspirators behind the California Energy Crisis that cleared the path for the CHENEY ADMINISTRATION, 9/11, and the INVASION OF THE MIDDLE EAST.
As long as we’re setting the record straight, Lewinsky was a “Swallow” (spy) for Mossad.
Israel set-up both Clinton and Gary Condit (with Chandra Levy) and others in order to compromise them and effectively blackmail them.
Why is Lieberman’s name attached to these to “Swallows” - the term used to describe women in the employ of Israel whose job is to compromise US Officials) for Israel’s Mossad?
If Monica was a swallow where did the with white stain on her blue dress come from
Krispy Kremes?
This slimey grease ball is so far out of touch with reality. Sad that such men can represent so many, and they have so much influence on the lives of the innocent.
May he rot in hell...and hopefully rot a little before he gets there.
ysbaddaden @ 112:
how convienent monica saved the cum stained blue dress instead of getting it cleaned as any normal woman would have! ive allways said monica worked for mossad!
Connecticut: I want you to bend over so I can kick you all in the ass!
Joe Lieberman is so creepy, in a 'don't touch me there' way.
How can even Republicans stand to have him around?
Oh, that's right...
I second that
Didn’t Obama stump for this old fool in Ct? If so, he got what he deserves from this two-timing weasel
What gave me gas is when he first got to the Senate, Obama named this fool as one of his mentors.
And you insult weasels when you refer to Joe Lieberman as a weasel. The weasel family would prefer if you referred to Lieberman as the Droopy-Dog Douchebag he really is. At least a weasel serves a purpose; what purpose does Joe Lieberman serve other than to piss off us progressives with his petty form of revenge against Democrats who respected Connecticut voters?
What a Putz.
Is this proof beyond a doubt, that FOX "news" is propaganda? Look at the logo, LIEberman is on FOX! He can't get on TV...he can only get on FOX!
L.A. Confidential @ 9:
Yeah, I say that every day. I'd say I am going to Hell but I'm already here. Nice John and Cindy McCain shot by the way! What a gown! It's like the Crypt Keeper found a husband!
[Deleted. Don't advocate violence here-Sitemonitor]
Tell me something: why would any member of any kind of 'press' give any coverage to Joe the Schmoe Lieberman? The entire country knows what a piece of shit he is, he needs no further publicity of any kind.
Dr. Acula @ 36:
It's laughable that you post on this blog and call yourself a democrat, liberal, a person-who-cares-about-facts or whatever it is you call yourself now days. Why don't you just call yourself an Israeli lobbyist and get it over with? Reality has an anti-Semitic bias, right?
You're be no different than Joey here who keeps sounding the "terrorists" trumpet whenever it suites Israel, but claims he's doing so because he loves THIS country.
And they called Richardson a "Judas".
Obama really went out on a limb for Lieberman.
He campaigned for him.
He urged people to have the "good sense" to reelect him.
He praised Lieberman's "good heart" and "keen intellect".
And Lieberman won't even endorse him.
There is no justice.
I'm still shaking my head.
Lieberman, who supposedly "corrected" McCain (actually, a reporter does and Joe passes it along), actually repeats the lie here AND THEN Fox mentions the McCain gaff WITHOUT NOTICING LIEBERMAN JUST MADE THE SAME "GAFF".
Still shaking my head.
The CORPORATE CONTROLED MEDIA loves LIE-berman even though he has NO CREDIBILITY at all. LIE-berman and BUSH, McCain are the DARKINGS of the CORPORATE CONTROLED MEDIA. And they will be dearly loved when the war with IRAN is started.
Mugsy @ 125:
Indeed. these senile guys with dementia should be forced to retire before causing more damage.
This is precisely why Gore should not be Obama's running mate, as some have been speculating. Gore's done great things for environmental education, but he showed a severe lack of judgment in running with Lieberman for the presidency. We don't need him in the White House.
Qaeda to McCain: Iran is our common foe
Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:49:40
Ayman al-Zawahiri
Al-Qaeda's number two leader snubs Republican Senator John McCain for claiming that Iran is working with the terrorist organization.
During a new online Q&A session, Ayman al-Zawahiri said al-Qaeda wants to see the destruction of Iran - a Shia nation battling the terrorists.
"We hope that war 'saps' both Washington and Tehran," he said.
"The dispute between America and Iran is a genuine struggle, and the possibility of the US striking Iran is real," al-Zawahiri said.
"Whichever country that emerges victorious will find itself in an intensified and fierce battle [with al-Qaeda]," he continued.
Al-Zawahiri was referring to recent remarks by the presumptive Republican nominee, Senator John McCain, who has claimed that Iranian operatives are 'taking al-Qaeda into Iran, training them and sending them back' to Iraq.
Although McCain's campaign has attempted to whitewash the senator's remarks as a mishap, pundits have questioned McCain's awareness of current world affairs.
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