CNN's endless loop of Pentagon propaganda video

Barbara Starr's got a hot new video from Youtube the Pentagon that shows some five or six insurgents being blown to pieces in Sadr City by an unmanned drone. She's like, "keep your eyes peeled so you won't miss the blackness that envelops the picture. (No sound. Just insurgents with weapons moving around and then your screen goes black.) Wow, that's amazing, says Starr. Just rinse and repeat everything the Pentagon tells you, Barbara. What purpose did that video serve?

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If CNN wants to run the video game type clips of insurgents being blown up, then why not show some actual footage of Basra , Sadr City and other parts of Iraq and the war zone? Why not force the PR staff of the military to give them something real---footage that helps the American people get a better understanding of the kind of suffering the innocent Iraqi people face as well as our troops because of the war in Iraq instead of useless propaganda footage to promote Gen. Petraeus and Crocker's testimony? The only person excited by that footage was Barbara.



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That video served the purpose of giving me a hard on.
Uh, I mean...it's terrible to see insurgents who are killing Americans get killed themselves.

An interesting perspective on the "news".

Can't show real blood and gore to the 'Murican people - it would upset them, the way the footage of Vietnam did back in the '60's, and then the Democrats will make us lose another war. (Sarcasm)

Starr is a shill. CNN is pathetic. I only watch Cafferty File. Is there a war? They never really mention it. It's always the election.

Show this crap but not draped coffins of dead service men. I believe some get hard ons! Too bad there's not a draft for them. Then they would have priapism until they get blown to smitherings.

We knew they were from Iran...why? Because we questioned them? Oh, no. We blew them up. We assume they are from Iran because that's where we want them to be from so we can bomb, bomb, bomb...

Hey, wait. How did we know they were terrorists setting up a missile launcher? It looked pretty blurry to me. Oh, right. They're terrorists because that's what we want them to be. Silly me.

yeah! @ 2:

That video served the purpose of giving me a hard on.
Uh, I mean...it's terrible to see insurgents who are killing Americans get killed themselves.

War sure is fun when you get others to your fighting as you sit on your chickenhawk ass.

wow bush co.'s P.R. department is working overtime and all this just to resell an old "product". they even had the iragi p.m. coordinate and produce a raid on the bad guys, just in time for the pentagon spring sweeps through congress. it is like a bad movie all over again.

Why do we have so many idiots on the cable news channels? Is it really that hard to find intelligent people and real reporters these days? What's the difference between this and America's Wildest Police Chases? There's a story here just because there's a video? And boy, what a video it is, huh? Wow. You just don't see videos of guys walking around like that. What a scoop!

Great line: "what US troops are up against". Shouldn't that be the other way around?

That's what you're getting on CNN. On MSNBC all I'm seeing is that footage of those girls beating up on of their own. Sick producers we have in this news world. Like Jesse Ventura said... Who chose to air Anna Nicole footage for over a month last year? Who's interests are served by feeding us this bullcrap. General Electric. Who profits by withholding the real news. When was the last time you heard a name of one of our soldiers killed. When was the last casket you saw coming home from Iraq.

www.StopBigMedia.com

Nobody believes anything from the Pentagon anymore, in fact, their tuning out. Americans are tired of being lied too. Bush brought nothing except destruction to everything in our government. From the Justice Dept. to FDA, by hiring incompetant lackeys to powerful positions, he screwed up everything. He has been a destructive embarassment.

what a joke. Thats not a news report, thats repeating Pentagon propaganda. How about showing pictures of Iraqi civilians killed on daily basis in US airstrikes?

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I ONLY COUNTED FIVE PEOPLE
NOT SIX INSURGENTS...

This sort of thing reminds me of Heaven...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiwOVaznIZI

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galmud, Because that is depressing, and Bush and co just want us to spend, spend, and spend.

Apparently you have to be serious to appreciate Iraqi "insurgents" getting blown up. At least, isn't that what CNN et al tells us: serious people support the war and want to win it, whatever that means.

yeah! @ 2:

That video served the purpose of giving me a hard on.
Uh, I mean...it's terrible to see insurgents who are killing Americans get killed themselves.

I agree that they are (at least trying to) kill Americans. And I agree that's bad.
But is not another way to accurately put it is "local residents trying to kill occupying soldiers" ?

yeah! @ 2:

That video served the purpose of giving me a hard on.
Uh, I mean...it's terrible to see insurgents who are killing Americans get killed themselves.

Silly wrabbit...
If the Murrkins weren't there, they wouldn't be gettin' killed...

DUH!

Oh, I know, the turrists will follow us home like lost puppies...

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Wolf Blitzer has taken to often remarking about how he,his 'Situation Room' and CNN are being watched all over the world. Seems quite impressed with himself with this being so.

Barbara Starr does seem to be a reliable conduit for Pentagon propaganda as she often seems fully tethered to 'five sided' viewpoints,takes and spin.

CNN sadly is viewed around the world. For all those who get sucked in by CNN fluff and vacuous content,pov's and simple mindedness that is a genuine travesty in/of outcome for how America and Americans are portrayed and seen around the planet.

CNN--the home of tedious screen graphic glitz,over rated 'Blitz' and far too much 'fluff' news format, pathetic propaganda throw and craven 'junk news' set up and portrayal.

The Best Political Team On Television? Sure Wolf. You bet.

gee, i guess we're winning dude! yeah!

did you see that sh*t dude?! we're f*cking winning dude!

F*** CNN, the Pentagon (and I'd add B. Starr, but she's tooooo ugly) as to their
propoganda. And while at it, let's just add ALL of the MSM for they too deserve a
good screwing.

what makes these insurgents less reasonable than the people remote piloting that drone?

I forgot to write that she kept saying six, but I counted five also...And she did it several times during the three hour CNN show...

Leslie @ 19:

Apparently you have to be serious to appreciate Iraqi "insurgents" getting blown up. At least, isn't that what CNN et al tells us: serious people support the war and want to win it, whatever that means.

I know Leslie,
MSMBS = Myth System Managing the Bull Shit...

If THEY(sic) weren't on the case of educating the public, propagandists would be found in an unemployment line somewhere.

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Fuck the Pentagon. If the US military was so fucking tough they would've put this war in the bag four years ago. I remember at the beginning of this losing effort the Pentagon was crying foul over the internet's showing of Iraqi snipers knocking down our kids.

Paper tigers. If it wasn't for our nukes created by exiled German's we wouldn't be shit.

Here's some Pentagon propaganda from yesteryear.

'World's Only Remaining Superpower'.

What bullshit!

BTW... Little Sister's Of The Poor is looking for warm-up games on next year's schedule.

I wonder if those "tubes" were anything like the aluminum "tubes" condibush said sadam bought, or like sen. ted's "tubes" that get clogged when one of his staff sends an internets to him, and I wonder if the "insurgents" were anything like the 5 mexican students 4 of whom were blown to bits and one maimed (if he survives) by colombian fighters in a cross border bombing in ecuador.. maybe immediately after this drone bombing they'll find perfect unscathed laptops that have thousands of files (most of them pork from the microsoft operating system installed on them) with a letter that reads "5 bags rice, 1 loaf bread, sugar, and don't forget to get some milk if they have it. love, honeymunchkin" which obviously is code for "death to the infidels! - Ahmadinijad".

One can only wonder anymore.

Every single news network has a "Pentagon Correspondent".. they do NOTHING but parrot whatever their little sources tell them. There is no reporting going on. It's a listening post where they can copy down whatever the Pentagon wants to release to the public.

Brian Williams just reported on NBC News that we are now officially in a recession, consumer confidence at a 26 year low.

Barbara, if that's how you start your weekends you'll love this Frontline doc.
'This program contains graphic images'

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/gangsofiraq/view/

Doesn't Rummy still have office space in the Pentagon?

News we are missing:

Cheney and other Bush officials "choreographed" torture:
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=4583256

The high-level discussions about these "enhanced interrogation techniques" were so detailed, these sources said, some of the interrogation sessions were almost choreographed -- down to the number of times CIA agents could use a specific tactic.

and Hal Turner is not in jail after threatening a school superintendent.
http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/state/x2084320886

The radio host says “I advocate parents using FORCE AND VIOLENCE against Superintendent Paul B. Ash as a method of defending the health and safety of school children presently being endangered through his politically-correct indoctrination into deadly, disease-ridden sodomite lifestyles.” The site lists Ash’s last known addresses, a phone number, and a birth date.

yeah! @ 2:

That video served the purpose of giving me a hard on.
Uh, I mean...it's terrible to see insurgents who are killing Americans get killed themselves.

Did you ever see "Silence of the Lambs"?
Who got what hardon over skinning pretty girls?

How is what you say any different?
Seeing people get killed excites you?

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"These strikes are very precise, these people know what they're doing"

Of course you dumb cow, half the Iraqi's working in the Green Zone are giving them the information and maps on what to hit. When you're an occupying army, is it any wonder that half of the local "collaborators" hare really working against you?

This is the sensationalistic crap that these news networks relish because is brings
almost a video game quality to what is going on over in Iraq! God forbid that they
should show the real war with innocent Iraqi's being killed.

"The discovery of two Iraqi truck trailers equipped with fermenters is the strongest evidence yet that Saddam Hussein had a biological weapons program, a U.S. intelligence report said Wednesday."

"Examination of the trailers reveals ... an ingeniously simple, self-contained bioprocessing system," the report says. "Both trailers we have found probably are designed to produce BW agent in unconcentrated liquid slurry."

Interesting timing: Bush speech, Pentagon video of Iraqis getting blown up. Can't you smell the success?

Leslie @ 37:

Interesting timing: Bush speech, Pentagon video of Iraqis getting blown up. Can't you smell the success?

Surge on...

Leslie, yeah, and today is Friday, Dump Day of the week. Now onto Monday for the latest of Bush's follies.

How would Barbara Star feel if Iraqi's were able to watch her family being blown away. As they say in Hollywood, that's entertainment.

Wonder if CNN will broadcast any of the executions of Republicans convicted of treason? Keep your eye on the black hood. There it goes dropping out of sight! Isn't that amazing?

P.D. @ 39:

Leslie, yeah, and today is Friday, Dump Day of the week. Now onto Monday for the latest of Bush's follies.

And we know what the Bushies are trying to cover up this weekend too: the end run around Congress with Bush's SOFA [see C&L's most recent post above this one]. A**holes.

I know that I'm not trained to make video-drone analysis, but I saw nothing to convince me that these people were setting up anything.
It looked more like my friends and I setting up an outdoor prayer circle. We sometimes carry things on our shoulders, too.
What other evidence does CNN have that these people were doing anything wrong?
Is it a capital crime in Iraq to carry anything on your shoulder?

Leslie @ 42:

P.D. @ 39:

Leslie, yeah, and today is Friday, Dump Day of the week. Now onto Monday for the latest of Bush's follies.

And we know what the Bushies are trying to cover up this weekend too: the end run around Congress with Bush's SOFA [see C&L's most recent post above this one]. A**holes.

Whoops, C&L's post is below this one, with Senator Lindsay Graham.

There is a lot more going on here than meets the eye. Why was the video broadcast? Remember, when news of the wiretap program was leaked, we were told that it hurt our security program because now the terrorists knew our strategy. Well shouldn't the super-secret high-tech drones have been kept secret? By the same logic, now the all pervasive terrorist will "know" our tricks and adapt. What bullshit.

Remember when some Brit soldiers were caught in Basra dressed up in local garb and trying to incite violence by shooting at the police? And a few days ago some US soldiers were reported by the Iraqis to be running around in local dress also. Now these are only the cases that have been blatantly discovered. Can you imagine what else is going on? Don't be surprised when we are suddenly told that Sadr's Army is doing this and that and surprise, surprise Al Sadr himself is mysteriously assassinated by shooters in local garb. The sick psy-ops campaign we are waging is creating a level of mistrust that will haunt us for decades.

she was soooo infatuated with rummy when he was sec of defense; the flirtatious behavior during interviews was embarrassing.

i was watching her report on cnn when cbs revealed the abu ghraib story. she proclaimed that she had reported on that story months prior -- the extent of her 'report' was -- 'several guards have been accused of prisoner abuse in baghdad'. that was it. and it quickly disappeared down the cnn memoryhole, until cbs had the temerity to actually investigate and break it wide open.

she's a whore and propagandist of the highest order. i have no doubt she's on the payroll of sinister forces.

Why do I watch the news, by the time the week is out, I'm frazzled. Maybe I should start a hobby, this is to depressing.

I could see five or six human figures walking around on a street. I must have missed that big bullseye on their backs that said 'hey we are from Iran and we are here to kill Americans'.

That is pure propaganda if I ever seen it. I am sure the Pentagon has all kinds of footage of people getting popped by hellfire missiles. They can say it was anything they want it to be, and not give a rats ass if anyone believes it or not. That's their story and they will stick to it. If the President can run the country on lie after lie after lie after lie, then you can bet your bottom dollar that the Pentagon will run the military the same way. Actually I'm surprised there hasn't been a 'Gulf of Tonkin' like event yet to give the WarPigs an excuse to begin carpet bombing Iran.

Apologies for the OT entry here:

Longshoremen to close ports on West Coast to protest war

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/04/09/ED8L101F5U.DTL

"While millions of people worldwide have marched against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and last week's New York Times/CBS News poll indicated that 81 percent believe the country is headed in the wrong direction - key concerns being the war and the economy - the war machine inexorably grinds on.

Amid this political atmosphere, dockworkers of the International Longshore and Warehouse Union have decided to stop work for eight hours in all U.S. West Coast ports on May 1, International Workers' Day, to call for an end to the war."

Barbara Starr is AS A MATTER OF FACT a GOVERNMENT MOUTHPIECE. She works for the DOD - not for CNN.

When you see Barbara Starr on CNN, note that she is NOT telling you the truth.

During the FAKE London Terror Threat - which came just 36 hours after AIPAC tool Lieberman lost to Lamont (totally orchestrated By Karl Rove in order to CHANGE THE SUBJECT), it was Barbara Starr who announced during this FALSE FLAG THREAT that US Submariner, Ariel Joseph Weinmann, had been arrested SIX MONTHS EARLIER for espionage - turning over nuclear submarine secrets to "a foreign country" - said to be Israel by the rest of the world media - but proclaimed to be "Russia" by Barbara Starr - thanks to her "anonymous Pentagon sources."

Ariel Joseph Weinmann's espionage for Israel was as bad as the Jonathon Pollar Spy case...and you know NOTHING ABOUT IT - thanks to CIA/Rockefeller/Israeli operative - Barbara Starr.

Israel's submarines now have our targeting and launch codes. Can they strike Iran now using our subs against our will?

Ask Barbara Starrr - she knows the truth - because she invents the lies.

CNN is worse than fox.

people take CNN seriously and they are so pro-war it hurts.

If even the White House rejects her claims, then on whose behalf must she be speaking?

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:edbraIm3U9wJ:thinkprogress.org/2007...

Looked to me like a few guys lighting up a BBQ. Fuck, I bet they were suprised! Well at least the rack of lamb was well done. USA! USA! USA! USA!
I think they call it "winning hearts and minds" or is it "incinerating hearts and minds". I bet their brothers, uncles and kids just love us right now. In fact I would not be surprised if the love will be raining down on the green zone any day now.

"It's all over.
Montag is dead."

I love the whole meme that they keep finding Iranian weapons because they are labelled as such and this somehow proves that evil Iran is behind all the attacks.

I understand that a lot of 9mm Glocks are used in gang warfare in East LA. I guess the media should be reporting that evil Austria is funding these vicious attacks in Los Angeles because their weapons are showing up.

so barbie likes robot killers. was she slurring her words today?

Starr and Kyra Phillips will repeat verbatim anything the administration gives them. I have a question. With all this hi-tech shit, 160,000 combat troops and the best general in the world why can't they beat a few dead end guerillas sorry I mean insurgents.

Is it not an ethical question whether unmanned drones should be attacking humans in the first place? Some day these things will be totally robotic and if we don't start seriously discussing this in an open dialog we may turn this world into a terminator like catastrophe

Did anyone see any of those men carrying rocket propelled grenade launchers? Realize they're not that big, but I couldn't tell if those men were carrying anything. Not saying these particular Iraqis weren't a deserving target--I have no idea....

So now we're bombing Sadr City and continuing attempts to tie Iraqi nationalist Muqtada al-Sadr to Iran. Even though Iran backs Maliki and worked to bring a peaceful solution to Basra. What is Bush doing?

Barbara Starr's (The PENTAGON's) version of reality:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/09/sailor.charge/index.html

And then the REAL story as told to the rest of the world, EVEN IN ISRAEL:

Report: US sailor spied for Israel
David Keyes, THE JERUSALEM POST
Aug. 9, 2006
A US Navy sailor, Ariel J. Weinmann, is suspected of spying for Israel and has been held in prison for four months, according to an article published Monday in the Saudi daily Al-Watan. It reported that Weinmann is being held at a military base in Virginia on suspicion of espionage and desertion.

http://pdx911truth.blogspot.com/2006/08/false-flags-and-spies-think-like...

I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere about Barbara Starr and her fondness for "unmanned drones" (ahem!). I'll get back to ya later about that!

yeah! @ 2:

That video served the purpose of giving me a hard on.
Uh, I mean...it's terrible to see insurgents who are killing Americans get killed themselves.

They're killing American because they're occupying they're country, much the same way you'd probably go out and kill, lets say, Chinese soldiers, if they were occupying America.

"According to the navy, Weinmann was apprehended on March 26 “after it was learned that he had been listed as a deserter by his command.” Though initial information released by the navy makes no mention of it, Al-Watan reported that he was returning from an undisclosed “foreign country.” American sources close to the Defense Department told Al-Watan that Israel was the country in question."

BUT BARBARA STARR'S PENTAGON SOURCES CONFIRMED THAT THE FOREIGN COUNTRY IN QUESTION WAS ACTUALLY RUSSIA.

TOTAL FABRICATION.

cnn shills for the pentagon, the stock market, and big pharma. could you imagine ed murrow advising his viewers to buy stocks so as to insure that money will be available for retirement. cnn runs a program for 1 hr. at 11am that does that non stop except for commercials from big pharma. propagandists could end up on the docket with the war criminals they enable.

That woman is one of the dumbest bitches on TV, and there are many.

Most of the men on TV are also dumb bitches.

wxgeek @ 35:

This is the sensationalistic crap that these news networks relish because is brings
almost a video game quality to what is going on over in Iraq! God forbid that they
should show the real war with innocent Iraqi's being killed.

The media should show it and blast the fantasy that Americans are good guys, revolutionaries out to spread democracy by dropping bombs, or leaders of the free world who use the word "freedom" like a weapon. All bullshit from these evil thugs under BushCo a criminal gangster organization.

cnn should lose their media credentials. fox should never had been given media credentials. why are they allowed to ask questions at government press conferences?

She says six but I see five.
Anyhow these videos are amazing. Its judge, jury and executioner.

I saw a video (on CNN, I think) a long time ago that showed an ammo depot in Iraq being blown up. There were some really huge explosions. One little mention by CNN and then no follow-up coverage ever. The story just quietly went away.

There is so much that the American public will never know in regards to Bush et al and their crimes. Makes me wonder what is coming next. Something is brewing.

I always thought Barabara Starr was a robot. Isn't she? She makes me --snore--

CNN lost its credibility in my mind long ago and rivals only Fox in terms of its ability to feed propaganda to the American public.

For just one example, CNN International Chief and Executive Christiane Amanpour is married to James Rubin. For the entire period of the Clinton administration, Rubin was an Assistant Secretary of State and spokesman for the U.S. State Department. Can you imagine that pillow-talk? Can you imagine a bigger conflict of interest?

Barbara looks like a soviet propagandist. Different era, different country I guess.

I think Barabara Starr needs to be droned.

She's tacitly cheerleading the invasion of Iran.

"Shows what US troops are up against." (??) They're behind a control panel, far away, shooting "the enemey" like it's a video game. They probably love it. "Hit. Awesome dude." Or something like that.

How do we know they are terrorists? How do we know there aren't children around? Are these drones/drone operators so clever?? Looked kinda blurry to me. Shoot first, ask questions later? On second thought, no need for questions. Hit!! (This is Rumsfeld's new army. See implanted spy insects and microwave guns.)

It's amazing (sickening) what this adminstration does for power and money.

There was a war in Iraq and I think the USA beatwar right now al-Qaeda but I don't think very many people die there anymore. Only about 5 a week.

I saw a lot of cool fireworks and stuff blowing up about 5 years ago and then I think we won. So I don't know what all the fuss is about.

If there is a war right now I wish they'd show the battles and explosions. That would be cool.

74 Stu Pidasso Says: There was a war in Iraq and I think the USA beatwar right now al-Qaeda but I don’t think very many people die there anymore. Only about 5 a week.

I saw a lot of cool fireworks and stuff blowing up about 5 years ago and then I think we won. So I don’t know what all the fuss is about.

If there is a war right now I wish they’d show the battles and explosions. That would be cool.
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Crack. This is your brain on ______________ (you fill in the blank)

Oh goody, let's make war by remote fun so we never have to have peace again! (End of sarcasm)

God, what cowards those insurgents are.

Should Barbara Starr wear a bag over her head to improve her attactiveness;

It's propaganda. They think Americans are going to feel safer watching the deaths of a handful of insurgents.

yeah! @ 2:

That video served the purpose of giving me a hard on.
Uh, I mean...it's terrible to see insurgents who are killing Americans get killed themselves.

yeah aint it a fucking sham!oh wait i didnt see any rpgs hey wtfs americans in thier country??? oh oh i know its the oil right!

Ashley @ 79:

It's propaganda. They think Americans are going to feel safer watching the deaths of a handful of insurgents.

We don't know it was just a handful. Our smart bomb may have taken out the entire block.

very objective of her

the problem with unmanned drones of course is that they're utterly, utterly cowardly.

so, i take it the critics of my comment are in favor of the death of American soldiers?
You people are morons. The country of Iraq has a democratically elected government. If the Iraqis want American soldiers out, they should vote for politicians that reflect those views. That's the way civilized society works. Jesus, you people are as bad as conservatives.

Oh yeah, and stop referring to Americans as "'muricans" and terrorists as "turrists." It's not that the joke is offensive, it's that it's old and lame. Just like you.

Max-Hussein-1 @ 38:

Leslie @ 37:

Interesting timing: Bush speech, Pentagon video of Iraqis getting blown up. Can't you smell the success?

Surge on...

yes it smells like blood , exposed intestines feces god is good , and the money aint bad either!!!!

Max-Hussein-1 @ 16:

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I ONLY COUNTED FIVE PEOPLE
NOT SIX INSURGENTS...

This sort of thing reminds me of Heaven...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiwOVaznIZI

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In the first part of the video, even as Starr is saying it shows six insurgents, only five are visible. In the second part, it appears to me that there are seven. Should I trust my lying eyes, or the word of the Pentagon?

What she is saying boils down to this: Iraqi insurgents, left to themselves, have no idea what they're doing. When they show the slightest degree of competence, they must be trained by the Iranians. So Iranian-backed militias are fighting against a government friendly to Iran.

No matter what happens in Iraq, Iran wins. That's what this war has brought us.

For War, War, War, Bush Needs A Bad Guys

Play close attention, we are currently in the time line to our next war. Iran is the target. This administration is hell bent on going to war. The Republicans think they own the executive branch of power during war. So, with the presidential elections on the horizon, we must have the threat of yet, you guessed it, another war.

The Not So Smart Bomb

Why was the footage in the video jumping around so much? Why was there a cut scene in the video just before the really smart bomb hit? "Ka-Boom; Did you see that; those insurgent guys are on their way to hell." I wonder if the house they were near had any innocents or "collateral damage people in it. What is the explosion ratios of these not so smart bombs that kill their target and everything around it. The "smart bomb" alias insurgent generator. When you kill Iraqi innocents, their relatives become the next wave of insurgents ready to kill everything American. It is sad, it is unfortunate, and it is real.

This administration and their military minded Republican supporters had better wake up and play grown ups instead of war czar. We need to make this election about being grown up and mature. We must not let John McCain use our troops and treasure as a classic unresolved issue from a war his era did not win. This war must end; vote Democratic.

Joseph

Wow, such intelligent conversation. Say...What would you little people suggest be done about Iraq? Maybe we could all hug and everything will be better. If only Bush hadn't lied or he wouldn't have had to if he didn't orchestrate 9/11 in the first place, right? Then we wouldn't be in Iraq and they would continue to live a peaceful life not being able to speak-up or disagree with your government. Yes the good life wondering which family member is going to be killed today. All those free and open elections, where apparently nobody could beat Saddam, gee wheres obama when you really need him? Oh.. don't you ladies forget....Tuesdays are show your face for 25 lashes instead of the usual 50. oppression, oppression, oppression. Hey if you're lucky you will get to pick which mass grave you will be buried in. Good times, Good times.
But what do I know?

For a dose of Iraq reality, check out the video shot by the Italian TV station RAI called, "Fallujah: The hidden massacre". It documents the "white phosphorous" attack on Fallujah. It can be found at Liveleak.com. It is disturbing to say the least, but allows us to understand a little bit of what our troops see on a daily basis. Additionally, you can search Democracynow.org for an interview with soldiers about the incident.

Who can forget the 2002 Wedding Party Massacre?

Iraqi officials last night said an American helicopter fired on a wedding party in western Iraq killing more than 40 people, including many children, in another damaging setback for the US occupation.

A senior Iraqi police officer told the Associated Press that a helicopter fired at the party early yesterday morning in a remote village close to the Syrian border, killing between 42 and 45 people.

Television footage showed a truck carrying the bodies of the dead arriving in Ramadi, the nearest big town. Many of the dead were clearly children.

In a written statement the Pentagon said last night: "Our report is that this was not a wedding party, that these were anti-coalition forces that fired first, and that US troops returned fire, destroying several vehicles, and killing a number of them.

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American military officials were last night trying to explain one of their worst blunders during the nine-month war in Afghanistan after a US plane mistakenly targeted a house full of wedding guests, killing at least 30 of them.
The bombing happened at 1am yesterday in a village in the rugged and mountainous central region of Oruzgan, 105 miles north of the southern city of Kandahar.

Survivors of the attack said several guests had just fired their Kalashnikovs into the air, as is traditional in Pashtun wedding ceremonies. A US air patrol over-head wrongly concluded it was coming under fire and responded with devastating force.

An AC-130 helicopter gun-ship and B-52 bomber blasted the scene, leaving scores of people dead - among them women and children - and at least 40 injured.

Pentagon officials last night conceded that at least one bomb dropped on the village of Kakarak was "errant". But their initial response was confused and they were unable to explain why the pilots had failed to establish whom they were attacking in a region clearly abandoned by Taliban and al-Qaida fighters several months ago.

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Oops

Hey, i thought the TV news was this big propaganda machine working for the Bush administration and the Pentagon? Only when it suits you? Oh I see, silly me.

Mr. Amato asks:
"If CNN wants to run the video game type clips of insurgents being blown up, then why not show some actual footage of Basra , Sadr City and other parts of Iraq and the war zone? Why not force the PR staff of the military to give them something real—footage that helps the American people get a better understanding of the kind of suffering the innocent Iraqi people face as well as our troops because of the war in Iraq instead of useless propaganda footage to promote Gen. Petraeus and Crocker’s testimony?"

The answer to this clearly rhetorical question is, I'm sure, obvious to John and all the regulars here, but it does bring up an issue I have with other, perhaps more mainstream progressives of late:

That, at this late stage in the game, they are still shocked and surprised by anything these thugs do. Is this just for show so that their listeners and readers of their posts don't start to think they are OK with it, or unmoved by the extreme vileness that spews forth from the powers that be on a daily basis? Or, are they still unaware of who these people are?

I hear this kind of shock and horror response all the time on Air America and it boggles my mind a bit. You're seriously dumbfounded by these guys? Still? You were actually shocked that Dick Cheney said "So?" after being confronted with the fact that most Americans are against the war? Really?

Rachel Maddow is starting to get it I think. The other day she made a comment that echoed my reaction to all this since day one. I'll paraphrase it here: Maybe the reason they keep saying that things are going great in Iraq is because this mess is exactly what they wanted in the first place and things are rolling out according to their plan. So, to them things are honky-dory.

All their ersatz press releases, all their rhetoric, all their appearances on Meet the Press, are their way of putting off the American public for just a little bit longer while they further their plan. Duh, right? Yet so many progressives seem frustrated by the responses from the White House and other officials as if all we had to do to get a straight answer out of them was to just ask the right questions. Quit it, already. The BushThugs are just wasting your time. You know who and WHAT they are. It is time to stop being surprised and shocked, and spend more energy, like C&L does, on reporting their real agenda and get on the task that NETROOTS is best at: getting human beings into office and put an end to this bullsh*t.

P.D. @ 5:

Starr is a shill. CNN is pathetic. I only watch Cafferty File. Is there a war? They never really mention it. It's always the election.

How does CNN pick their talking heads. Does a questionnaire during their pre-employment interview ask, do you bend over, do you suck, and most important, do you swallow? This aging mouthpiece for the pentagon has been getting away with this for a helluva long time. I picture this hag watching the Military Channel at night with her trusty vibrator. ...."Oh the surge,....Oh God I can feel the surge".

I've finally gotten to see the video (was at work earlier). Jesus, that woman is practically having an orgasm watching that clip. I saw a group of people walking around, not much else. They could be kids in any run down urban shithole. RPG's?? I didn't see any? Mortars??? Uh-uh. Just a group of people who are now dead - much to the delight of the perverts at the Genocide News Network apparently. Remember how the wingnuts are always bitching about how saying anything negative about the war just "emboldens the enemy"? Well, those 5 (or 6) people have large extended families who are now grieving for their murdered loved ones. That delightful little bit of warporn/propaganda is probably the insurgents' best recruiting aid. How about that Barb??

Conrad @ 90:

Who can forget the 2002 Wedding Party Massacre?

Iraqi officials last night said an American helicopter fired on a wedding party in western Iraq killing more than 40 people, including many children, in another damaging setback for the US occupation.

A senior Iraqi police officer told the Associated Press that a helicopter fired at the party early yesterday morning in a remote village close to the Syrian border, killing between 42 and 45 people.

Television footage showed a truck carrying the bodies of the dead arriving in Ramadi, the nearest big town. Many of the dead were clearly children.

In a written statement the Pentagon said last night: "Our report is that this was not a wedding party, that these were anti-coalition forces that fired first, and that US troops returned fire, destroying several vehicles, and killing a number of them.

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American military officials were last night trying to explain one of their worst blunders during the nine-month war in Afghanistan after a US plane mistakenly targeted a house full of wedding guests, killing at least 30 of them.
The bombing happened at 1am yesterday in a village in the rugged and mountainous central region of Oruzgan, 105 miles north of the southern city of Kandahar.

Survivors of the attack said several guests had just fired their Kalashnikovs into the air, as is traditional in Pashtun wedding ceremonies. A US air patrol over-head wrongly concluded it was coming under fire and responded with devastating force.

An AC-130 helicopter gun-ship and B-52 bomber blasted the scene, leaving scores of people dead - among them women and children - and at least 40 injured.

Pentagon officials last night conceded that at least one bomb dropped on the village of Kakarak was "errant". But their initial response was confused and they were unable to explain why the pilots had failed to establish whom they were attacking in a region clearly abandoned by Taliban and al-Qaida fighters several months ago.

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Oops

I've never understood (and I've given up waiting for the MSN to explain it to me) how any sane person can expect that bombers and attack helicopters flying at hundreds of miles an hour, at an altitude of (at least) 1000 feet are able to able to hit individual "militants" on the ground. I mean, I know the Tom Clancy fetishists among us are convinced that such weapons have "pinpoint accuracy" but the rest of us (with functioning brains) know that's total bullshit. I guess we have taken a page out of the Israeli playbook; pissed off at somebody? Make an entire neighborhood pay.

I bet she hides a swastika under that wig.

could this footage be manufactured by those who know 'best'

JAMMATO I dont find Barbara Starr in the spotlight target list

Wow, Bravo John!

Well Said! and why dont you have your own show yet? Great Job!

PS: the game that the MSM plays is a bit reminiscent of how the media played people in "1984". The parallels are disturbing, however George Orwell was a man before his time!

That is murder.

yeah! @ 2:

That video served the purpose of giving me a hard on.
Uh, I mean...it's terrible to see insurgents who are killing Americans get killed themselves.

I certainly hope this was sarcasm!

This sort of video footage is used by news outlets like CNN for reasons that are best described as "masturbatory," though. The notion that we're expected to think it's 'cool' how five or six men were blown to smithereens is beyond me. I am no old fogey, but this shit really is depraved.

geneHUSSEIN214 @ 95:

Conrad @ 90:

Who can forget the 2002 Wedding Party Massacre?

Iraqi officials last night said an American helicopter fired on a wedding party in western Iraq killing more than 40 people, including many children, in another damaging setback for the US occupation.

A senior Iraqi police officer told the Associated Press that a helicopter fired at the party early yesterday morning in a remote village close to the Syrian border, killing between 42 and 45 people.

Television footage showed a truck carrying the bodies of the dead arriving in Ramadi, the nearest big town. Many of the dead were clearly children.

In a written statement the Pentagon said last night: "Our report is that this was not a wedding party, that these were anti-coalition forces that fired first, and that US troops returned fire, destroying several vehicles, and killing a number of them.

---

American military officials were last night trying to explain one of their worst blunders during the nine-month war in Afghanistan after a US plane mistakenly targeted a house full of wedding guests, killing at least 30 of them.
The bombing happened at 1am yesterday in a village in the rugged and mountainous central region of Oruzgan, 105 miles north of the southern city of Kandahar.

Survivors of the attack said several guests had just fired their Kalashnikovs into the air, as is traditional in Pashtun wedding ceremonies. A US air patrol over-head wrongly concluded it was coming under fire and responded with devastating force.

An AC-130 helicopter gun-ship and B-52 bomber blasted the scene, leaving scores of people dead - among them women and children - and at least 40 injured.

Pentagon officials last night conceded that at least one bomb dropped on the village of Kakarak was "errant". But their initial response was confused and they were unable to explain why the pilots had failed to establish whom they were attacking in a region clearly abandoned by Taliban and al-Qaida fighters several months ago.

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Oops

I've never understood (and I've given up waiting for the MSN to explain it to me) how any sane person can expect that bombers and attack helicopters flying at hundreds of miles an hour, at an altitude of (at least) 1000 feet are able to able to hit individual "militants" on the ground. I mean, I know the Tom Clancy fetishists among us are convinced that such weapons have "pinpoint accuracy" but the rest of us (with functioning brains) know that's total bullshit. I guess we have taken a page out of the Israeli playbook; pissed off at somebody? Make an entire neighborhood pay.

I don't want to take this too far off-subject, but these sort of jabs at Israel tend to perplex me. Don't get me wrong - Israel really has (in my opinion) crossed the line more than once, with a recent example being their brutal attack on Lebanon (a sort of 'shock and awe' game plan). That being said, more often than not, Israel is biting its lower lip while Lebanese 'freedom fighters' intentionally fire rockets into civilian areas. I have found though that Lebanese attacks on Israel don't seem to get the same amount of press (and certainly not the same vehement hatred) as do Israel's retaliatory efforts. Christ, Israel took control of the nation only after a hideously botched attempt by Lebanon and its allies to wipe Israel off the face of the planet. And Israel isn't holding down the Lebanese because its fun or because Israelies are inherently Evil, but because countless attempts to conjure peace (including pulling out of Gaza) have been met with increased attacks and hated from Lebanon. Again, Israel is far from guilt-free, and Olmert is no Sharon, but for all of the criticism of Israel, few seem to have suggestions on how Israel ought to handle things. This is one area wherein I fall out of line with other liberals, I guess, but I do think supporting Israel (not that the U.S. doesn't go way over the top while arming Israel as well as their enemies), the one true democracy in the region, makes sense than going out of your way to support those who have chosen to overwhelmingly elect a fanatical terrorist group into power. I'm not accusing you of saying these things - heck, I'm really just venting in general. I see snark toward Israel a lot, and so, to quote Obama, "resentment builds over time."

AC Wilco @ 92:

Mr. Amato asks:
"If CNN wants to run the video game type clips of insurgents being blown up, then why not show some actual footage of Basra , Sadr City and other parts of Iraq and the war zone? Why not force the PR staff of the military to give them something real—footage that helps the American people get a better understanding of the kind of suffering the innocent Iraqi people face as well as our troops because of the war in Iraq instead of useless propaganda footage to promote Gen. Petraeus and Crocker’s testimony?"

The Real Discovery Channel

If the military open the doors to their mass destruction in Iraq, they will first discover there is no Al Qaeda army. At best, they would see a door by door search in which our soldiers have been allowed to terrorized family after family. The surge is at best a police action. When the fly boys are called in, they overkill by smart bombing everything is sight. Boy what I would do to examine the footage they try and pass off as war footage.It looks like "Final Cut Pro" in process. When the army open the doors to their operations, the real truth will come marching in. Until then, we will continue to get General Petraeus' rosy picture.

Joseph

Meat @ 104:

geneHUSSEIN214 @ 95:

Conrad @ 90:

Who can forget the 2002 Wedding Party Massacre?

Iraqi officials last night said an American helicopter fired on a wedding party in western Iraq killing more than 40 people, including many children, in another damaging setback for the US occupation.

A senior Iraqi police officer told the Associated Press that a helicopter fired at the party early yesterday morning in a remote village close to the Syrian border, killing between 42 and 45 people.

Television footage showed a truck carrying the bodies of the dead arriving in Ramadi, the nearest big town. Many of the dead were clearly children.

In a written statement the Pentagon said last night: "Our report is that this was not a wedding party, that these were anti-coalition forces that fired first, and that US troops returned fire, destroying several vehicles, and killing a number of them.

---

American military officials were last night trying to explain one of their worst blunders during the nine-month war in Afghanistan after a US plane mistakenly targeted a house full of wedding guests, killing at least 30 of them.
The bombing happened at 1am yesterday in a village in the rugged and mountainous central region of Oruzgan, 105 miles north of the southern city of Kandahar.

Survivors of the attack said several guests had just fired their Kalashnikovs into the air, as is traditional in Pashtun wedding ceremonies. A US air patrol over-head wrongly concluded it was coming under fire and responded with devastating force.

An AC-130 helicopter gun-ship and B-52 bomber blasted the scene, leaving scores of people dead - among them women and children - and at least 40 injured.

Pentagon officials last night conceded that at least one bomb dropped on the village of Kakarak was "errant". But their initial response was confused and they were unable to explain why the pilots had failed to establish whom they were attacking in a region clearly abandoned by Taliban and al-Qaida fighters several months ago.

---

Oops

I've never understood (and I've given up waiting for the MSN to explain it to me) how any sane person can expect that bombers and attack helicopters flying at hundreds of miles an hour, at an altitude of (at least) 1000 feet are able to able to hit individual "militants" on the ground. I mean, I know the Tom Clancy fetishists among us are convinced that such weapons have "pinpoint accuracy" but the rest of us (with functioning brains) know that's total bullshit. I guess we have taken a page out of the Israeli playbook; pissed off at somebody? Make an entire neighborhood pay.

I don't want to take this too far off-subject, but these sort of jabs at Israel tend to perplex me. Don't get me wrong - Israel really has (in my opinion) crossed the line more than once, with a recent example being their brutal attack on Lebanon (a sort of 'shock and awe' game plan). That being said, more often than not, Israel is biting its lower lip while Lebanese 'freedom fighters' intentionally fire rockets into civilian areas. I have found though that Lebanese attacks on Israel don't seem to get the same amount of press (and certainly not the same vehement hatred) as do Israel's retaliatory efforts. Christ, Israel took control of the nation only after a hideously botched attempt by Lebanon and its allies to wipe Israel off the face of the planet. And Israel isn't holding down the Lebanese because its fun or because Israelies are inherently Evil, but because countless attempts to conjure peace (including pulling out of Gaza) have been met with increased attacks and hated from Lebanon. Again, Israel is far from guilt-free, and Olmert is no Sharon, but for all of the criticism of Israel, few seem to have suggestions on how Israel ought to handle things. This is one area wherein I fall out of line with other liberals, I guess, but I do think supporting Israel (not that the U.S. doesn't go way over the top while arming Israel as well as their enemies), the one true democracy in the region, makes sense than going out of your way to support those who have chosen to overwhelmingly elect a fanatical terrorist group into power. I'm not accusing you of saying these things - heck, I'm really just venting in general. I see snark toward Israel a lot, and so, to quote Obama, "resentment builds over time."

Sorry, I'm not on AIPAC's payroll, so there's no reason for me to mince words when it comes to Israel and it's brutal oppression of the Palestinians. Now I know, the rule in this country seems to be never, EVER, EVER, criticize Israel. I say fuck that noise! By the way, why don't you ask the Palestinians in the occupied territories how they like Israeli style "Democracy"?

Barbara Starr is one creepy bitch.

Notice the slightly revealing steely craven smirk.

As she serves up the carnage and BS to shit-wow the lemmings in the audience.

Welcome to Bush's America.

{{{87 yeah! Says}}}: so, i take it the critics of my comment are in favor of the death of American soldiers?
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How do you connect the two? You get a hard on from watching people getting blown up, doesn't translate as I like to watch American soldiers getting killed: there is no connect between these two.

"Unmanned drone" sounds better than "robot killing machine."

Am I the only one who saw the "breaking news" clip with Starr reading the Pentagon script on Iranian motorboaties were "threatening" our big bad destroyers in the "Persian" Gulf again! OMG whatever shall we do? What would we do if their motorboaties were cruising thru the Gulf of Mexico just off Florida or Texas????

Aren't ARMED UNMANNED DRONES illegal? Or against the Geneva Conventions? Aren't landmines also? IEDs when used against us, but perfectly legal landmines when we use them.

It's Barbara Starr for God's sake!
Who in the name of corporate pagan's gave this 'windshield molded' faced Rumsfeld Pig a job anyway? Can anyone take this 'Partisan Pentagon' tap-dancing cleaning twit seriously?
"Lookee, lookee...your tax dollars at work obliterating blurry figures! Hooray foooooooooor...Hollywood!"
And those glasses!!!
Harry Carey must have been her american idol!
Grab a mop girl!

Curtsie!

geneHUSSEIN214 @ 106:

Meat @ 104:

geneHUSSEIN214 @ 95:

Conrad @ 90:

I've never understood (and I've given up waiting for the MSN to explain it to me) how any sane person can expect that bombers and attack helicopters flying at hundreds of miles an hour, at an altitude of (at least) 1000 feet are able to able to hit individual "militants" on the ground. I mean, I know the Tom Clancy fetishists among us are convinced that such weapons have "pinpoint accuracy" but the rest of us (with functioning brains) know that's total bullshit. I guess we have taken a page out of the Israeli playbook; pissed off at somebody? Make an entire neighborhood pay.

I don't want to take this too far off-subject, but these sort of jabs at Israel tend to perplex me. Don't get me wrong - Israel really has (in my opinion) crossed the line more than once, with a recent example being their brutal attack on Lebanon (a sort of 'shock and awe' game plan). That being said, more often than not, Israel is biting its lower lip while Lebanese 'freedom fighters' intentionally fire rockets into civilian areas. I have found though that Lebanese attacks on Israel don't seem to get the same amount of press (and certainly not the same vehement hatred) as do Israel's retaliatory efforts. Christ, Israel took control of the nation only after a hideously botched attempt by Lebanon and its allies to wipe Israel off the face of the planet. And Israel isn't holding down the Lebanese because its fun or because Israelies are inherently Evil, but because countless attempts to conjure peace (including pulling out of Gaza) have been met with increased attacks and hated from Lebanon. Again, Israel is far from guilt-free, and Olmert is no Sharon, but for all of the criticism of Israel, few seem to have suggestions on how Israel ought to handle things. This is one area wherein I fall out of line with other liberals, I guess, but I do think supporting Israel (not that the U.S. doesn't go way over the top while arming Israel as well as their enemies), the one true democracy in the region, makes sense than going out of your way to support those who have chosen to overwhelmingly elect a fanatical terrorist group into power. I'm not accusing you of saying these things - heck, I'm really just venting in general. I see snark toward Israel a lot, and so, to quote Obama, "resentment builds over time."

Sorry, I'm not on AIPAC's payroll, so there's no reason for me to mince words when it comes to Israel and it's brutal oppression of the Palestinians. Now I know, the rule in this country seems to be never, EVER, EVER, criticize Israel. I say fuck that noise! By the way, why don't you ask the Palestinians in the occupied territories how they like Israeli style "Democracy"?

The rationalization that I am on AIPAC's payroll (I'm sure they employ a lot of Canadian students) is cute, but ultimately very immature. Did I refrain from criticizing Israel here or in the past? No. I even criticized Israel above. Nonetheless, I'm frustrated as well by your black-and-white painting of the region's insanely complex clusterfuck, wherein you have nothing bit sympathy for Palestinians and vitriol for Israel. It demonstrates exactly what I was talking about, especially since you seem to have ignored every point I brought up.

Pat Nolan @ 91:

Wow, such intelligent conversation. Say...What would you little people suggest be done about Iraq? Maybe we could all hug and everything will be better. If only Bush hadn't lied or he wouldn't have had to if he didn't orchestrate 9/11 in the first place, right? Then we wouldn't be in Iraq and they would continue to live a peaceful life not being able to speak-up or disagree with your government. Yes the good life wondering which family member is going to be killed today. All those free and open elections, where apparently nobody could beat Saddam, gee wheres obama when you really need him? Oh.. don't you ladies forget....Tuesdays are show your face for 25 lashes instead of the usual 50. oppression, oppression, oppression. Hey if you're lucky you will get to pick which mass grave you will be buried in. Good times, Good times.
But what do I know?

Get back on the pills. Just a suggestion, but one you should seriously consider. You're way off the ledge.

About that sixth terrorist - he was obviously the terrorists' imaginary Iranian friend. Normal people can't see him - but anyone looking for a rationalization to bomb Iran can. In fact when they squint real hard, they can see Mahmoud Ahmadinejad himself burnt distinctly onto the cheese sandwich that those five terrorists - sorry, six terrorists - ate for lunch. Obviously they are getting their marching orders from that cheese sandwich! Time to toast Tehran!

I couldn't tell if they were "insurgents" or Iraqi freedom fighters, fighting to rid their country of an invading army.

One more thought- I'm sure insurgents have learned not to move around in groups and risk getting blown up by an unmanned drone. I suspect it was a group of school kids.

theteadiva @ 115:

About that sixth terrorist - he was obviously the terrorists' imaginary Iranian friend. Normal people can't see him - but anyone looking for a rationalization to bomb Iran can. In fact when they squint real hard, they can see Mahmoud Ahmadinejad himself burnt distinctly onto the cheese sandwich that those five terrorists - sorry, six terrorists - ate for lunch. Obviously they are getting their marching orders from that cheese sandwich! Time to toast Tehran!

ROTFL

I heard the sixth terrorist speak in Farsi, the others looked confused and responded in Arabic. That was just before the screen went blank because the 5 million dollar drone was hit by a 25 cent bullet - but then, no one at the Pentagon above the level of mailboy knows Iranians speak Farsi and Iraqis speak Arabic.

I hope this comes out on PSP so I can get it for my nephews!

Everything she is saying is so utterly depraved and evil, it boggles the mind what this war has come to. Killing "insurgents" in Sadr City with unmanned drones? We don't need an AI Skynet to operate these hunter killer drones, just the Pentagon that has no better scruples in taking human life. At least the machine doesn't have to get into moral contortions to rationalize what they are doing. The DoD and the entire occupation of Iraq does. What is the greater evil?

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