April 17, 2008 11:30 PM
Open Thread
T. Coraghessan Boyle in The New Yorker: "The Lie"...
The clock inched forward. Clover got dressed, put on her makeup, and took her coffee mug out to the car and was gone. There was nothing heroic in what I did next, dealing with the baby and my own car and the stalled nose-to-tail traffic that made the three miles to the babysitter’s seem like a trek across the wastelands of the earth—it was just life, that was all.
Open Thread below...




I may have posted before anyone else, but i will wait my turn to say anything important or interesting.
Hillary Clinton ain't too fond of the Progressive wing of the Democratic Party. Or the likes of MoveOn.org, the netroots and online activists...
1 minute audio
Orangutan. @ 2:
Hillary is a Republican and so is Bill. This is the best kept secret in American Politics.
Boston Legal rant
War corporations are bankrupting our country. Is this a mistake? Is it a mistake we have an oil man in the white house and record profits for the oil industry? Are these people loyal to our nation and our constitution? Or are they loyal to the multinational corporations they are supported by? Let's quit kidding ourselves. There may be conspiracies in effect out there.
new yorker is a great magazine. quality, top to bottom.
Hi all who said hi to me on flagelatio thread, and hi to those who didn't, too :)
;-}
odanny @ 4:
Whenever someone comments about a liberal bias in media they should be forced to watch a few episodes of Boston Legal so they get an idea of what liberal really is.
well, I think so anyway.
odanny @ 4:
I wish some one would sue.
Win or lose.
Writing. Today I came across an amazing Iraq War story in Esquire, titled "The Things That Carried Him," by Chris Jones. It ranks among the best narrative journalism I have read. I'd be interested to hear other people's opinions on it.
http://www.esquire.com/features/things-that-carried-him?click=pp
Yo Humble!! Great to be back. To see you back.
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 7:
Hi 2b. :)
Welcome back! :)
Billy Shears @ 10:
Well, i know where he got the title.
The Things They Carried by Tim O'Brien
A truly great book.
xoites defends Constitution @ 1:
Worst Frist ever.
;D
ah diddums, divisive and distract from petty stuff, surely constitutional affairs trump all such drivel.
this is the smoking gun to recall or impeach Nancy Pelosi.
University Crowd Cheers Sheehan
Le tres elite (and French, dammit!)Andy K Jong Il @ 14:
Truly an achievement and an accolade i have been striving for for some time now.
Thank you! :)
Great article
Damn! another 17th century white man fest. We should allbe ashamed.Very ashamed. ..............Ok Back to reality.
Billy Shears @ 10:
Thank you for posting that link.
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 7:
please tell me you're back and you're you.
how the fuck are you?
Being used to a Spartan existence, I can't bare to leave my buddies' behind, but will constrain my affections for the sake of the more refined and serious types. I won't buy PtG's Googleyoogley excuse for long, tho...haha ;-}
xoites defends Constitution @ 3:
I've gotta point out that the most important, long-lasting decisions that the President makes are the nominations to the Federal Court benches- from the Supreme Court on down. IMO, of course.
Do you really think there would be no difference between HRC and McCain? Really?
Le tres elite (and French, dammit!)Andy K Jong Il @ 14:
that sound bitter
WTF, we got 2b back? What's this blog coming to. Welcome back Cotter, er 2b.
xoites defends Constitution @ 16:
I knew you'd take it the right way, xoites. :D
Le tres elite (and French, dammit!)Andy K Jong Il @ 22:
No. Next question.
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 21:
Naked favoritism with a dash of fig leaf.
BaScOmBe against BullShit @ 23:
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 21:
You won't have to. I am again legit.
Robert Reich hearts
Obama. Delegate math is also
not in Hill's favor. Arnie helps push my state to 6.2%, the third highest in the country! But he's not a total son-of-a-nazi, as he's working to return coverage to people illegally kicked out of Health Mafia Organizations. Why NAFTA is a failure.
I am losing respect for Mike Mallow. Tonight, he actually described Maddow as smart and very knowlegable (sp) of political things.
I will not email the guy ... but in case he reads C&L ...
here ya go Mike
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Maddow
A degree from Stanford in public policy and a (Rhodes Scholar) Ph.d. from Oxford in political science.
Scarboro is afraid of Maddow NOT because she is smart , but because he knows he is pwned by her before he even starts.
... and she is 35. She has a future, Scarboro doesnt.
Go Rachel. :)
Le tres elite (and French, dammit!)Andy K Jong Il @ 28:
Its all just a joke. :)
6.2% unemployment, I mean
worth the price of admission.
BaScOmBe against BullShit @ 20:
Been peeping without peeping, so the lefty never left. We're us, me and you...
I've gotten mostly good reviews on the other thing.
;-}
The U.S. decides to give kangaroo(I mean military) courts the reality tv treatment.
xoites defends Constitution @ 13:
"The Things That Carried Him"...
http://www.esquire.com/features/things-that-carried-him?click=pp
Well, i know where he got the title.
The Things They Carried by Tim O'Brien
A truly great book.
Yeah, xiotes, those familiar O'Brien will understand the connection... when the carrier becomes the carried.
xoites defends Constitution @ 32:
Exactly. And thanks for closing the tags.
anon @ 31:
Rachel is hot and smart.Joe is a girly man. Next question
xoites defends Constitution @ 32:
*ouch*
don't you think I know that?
:<[)
WTF, I'm bitter as hell.
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 35:
eeeeeeeexxxxxxxcccccelent!
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 7:
that dog dont hunt proud name them all!!!!!!!
Ron @ 41:
You should be You..you..you 17th century man.hang your head!
Who is Mike Mallow?
proud can we expose 911 on your blog?
David Hawes @ 26:
So you gonna tell me that if Thurgood Marshall had held out until '93 that Bill Clinton would have nominated Clarence Thomas, or any other jurist who would have cast the deciding vote against the Florida recounts in 2000?
Pass the S.A.L.T., bitter.
Oh, that is so last century...
Hey Ron! X is gettin hitched!
xoites defends Constitution @ 27:
lol
All friends here :)
Be very hard to change that on my end. GNBL&RFY x.
Le tres elite (and French, dammit!)Andy K Jong Il @ 47:
'IF' is the biggest word in The Universe. Next question.
tyree-
Is the ground still moving down in Evansville? It woke me up this morning, and I've gotta be a 6 hour drive from the epicenter.
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 50:
I sent that off to NSA and am awaiting decoding.
David Hawes @ 44:
I'm proud to be a patriot.
I don't have a flag pin, a bumper sticker, a magnetic ribbon or a flag flying from my antenna, but I will never be as proud as proud 2b.
Since I'm way too lazy to go back to the flag post to see if you answered P2B, how goes your writing project?
David Hawes @ 51:
Okay. Who appointed you the definitive answer man?
Ron @ 54:
Double ditto.
David Hawes @ 39:
this is Joe trying to intimidate Rachel. many people have called Rachel today asking about the fluffup with killer joe. I think he's trying to get Rachel banned from msnbc, like they did stephanie miller. Rachel's way too smart and you know how the repugs don't like women much, especially those they can't screw or get blown by add a brain and the mix gets volatile. look at what the 'pugs did to hillary until barack became the frontrunner.
strong>killer joe threw his mike off during the final segment and stormed out. strong>killer joe manufactured the whole thing. rachel will have to come to terms with the fact that she sits in the middle of a circle of hateful mouth-breathers. and the last smart woman strong>killer joe ever countenanced might have been the one found in his office.
David Hawes @ 49:
Yeah, someone needs to rope him in.
David Hawes @ 51:
And you're wrong. 'Why' is the biggest question in the Universe.
Le tres elite (and French, dammit!)Andy K Jong Il @ 56:
I live on the third planet of a tiny solar system in a tiny gallaxy called The Milky way. "if" dots it's "i" with us.
Le tres elite (and French, dammit!)Andy K Jong Il @ 56:
Who appointed You the definitive questioner? Don't like the answer,perhaps someone else here willgive You one you are more comfortable with. Next question.
tyree @ 46:
No rules except the ones Blogspot enforces... Just wanna keep you guys outta trouble over here and help C&L appeal to the widest audience. You wanna get too crazy, come on over and blow off steam or whatever. I keep my first love, C&L in one window on my monitor, and the Locker Room Boys Club (girls allowed too) in the other, side by side. I'm the afterhours bar next door, so to speak. I've made it as easy as I can to get in.
;-}
Peter G @ 45:
Brother to Marsh.
'If' isn't even a question. It's a proposition.
xoites defends Constitution @ 61:
Just visiting myself. The guide said "Mostly harmless".
Le tres elite (and French, dammit!)Andy K Jong Il @ 60:
UmmmYou willnote I said biggest WORD not question.You are therefore WRONG. Next question
Bush dabbles in propaganda.
Peter G @ 55:
Lazy bastid
Peter G @ 66:
Hey! No need to Panic!
Le tres elite (and French, dammit!)Andy K Jong Il @ 52:
no le tres none since the second one around 10 i think, but im going to bed tonight with my pants on just incase! six hours away and you felt it too? seems like most the time a quake hits its late at night and im in the sack!
Ron @ 54:
I'm Humbled.
Ron @ 64:
Mars' cousin?
(let me know if you're too young for that)
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 72:
And Proud to be so!
David Hawes @ 26:
Backtrack....
Would you care to explain your reasoning?
Tequila @ 68:
when you use a catapault, it is not dabbling!
Iraq invaded Kuwait, Iraq ended up paying reparations (and they still are to this day, even tho the old defunct regime did the invading)
America invaded Iraq, Iraq pays America for hosting its occupation via 'loans' and they have barely functioning utilities.
Its a funny old world
Beer.
Le tres elite (and French, dammit!)Andy K Jong Il @ 75:
No.
If you understand beer, you will understand my reasoning.
Le tres elite (and French, dammit!)Andy K Jong Il @ 60:
Maybe only in this universe, though.
Beer
Tequila @ 68:
Actually I think he's going to see how a soldier escaped from stop loss and to bring him a new set of fatigues.
ferrofluid @ 77:
The problem is , it ain't funny no more.
whiskey
xoites defends Constitution @ 78:
Says it all really.
Peter G @ 86:
Yup
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 81:
I know that the Metaverse is real. I have first hand knowledge. There is a universe that exisits were i (under the pseudonym of "xoites") types late into the night on a thing called a computer that is somehow connected to a lot of other people with other pseudonyms talking about ll manner of things while in reality (at least my own) i shovel shit in a huge stable owned by the Lords of The Universe while dreaming of being a plumber's helper.
tyree @ 71:
I think that the only reason I felt the first one is because I'm on the 7th floor of my building. There was some significant swaying.
I was talking with the folks in the rental office- at ground level- when the aftershock hit, and I didn't feel it at all. My neighbor on the 7th floor walked in and asked if we felt that one (he had, we hadn't).
West Coasters are laughing at our reaction to this. I'd like to see them drive in a foot of snow. You reading this, Californians? Drive up to the western shore of Lake Michigan in February. I dare you. You'll be in a ditch in no time. Then guess who's gonna be laughing?
Peter G @ 86:
Specifically, Budweiser, then?
xoites defends Constitution @ 88:
LOL Aww c'mon X It's not that bad. Thinkof the aromatic pleasure you receive every day. Thinkof the bright side,pal.
Le tres elite (and French, dammit!)Andy K Jong Il @ 89:
Fixed.
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 90:
No.
Pyramid Hefeweizen
xoites defends Constitution @ 88:
We're talking to ourself.
Orangutan. @ 5:
Ah, the "C'" word. The word that is so hard to say, yet sits at the back of our minds like a pedophile at Jesus Camp. Maybe the neo-cons have succeeded in transforming the very essence of the word into something else, like "delusional"
or "anti-American" . Or maybe we're so gutless that we'll believe anything our appointed leaders tell us as long as our world stays "safe" and the bad guys don't get us.
Guess what ? The bad guys are crawling all over us. And they're wearing suits and speaking English.
David Hawes @ 91:
I do think of the bright side:
Beer
David Hawes @ 79:
Then your 'No' to my original question will be considered a non-sequitir.
Richard Quest ex BBC now CNN (London based) arrested in Central Park NY for violating curfew, and oops meth in his pocket.
Thought his voice was familiar, BBC Radio Four regular.
Beer.Ok kids play nice,now. UncleDave needs his beauty rest. TTFN
Le tres elite (and French, dammit!)Andy K Jong Il @ 97:
Yes
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 90:
Best line from a terrible movie:" Beer me If you can"
Le tres elite (and French, dammit!)Andy K Jong Il @ 89:
Hey I'm laughing and I've been in snow up to my ass and higher. Been in earthquakes too. It's like saying ."be scared, the terrorists are coming." shit happens and we all just have to get used to tragedies happening. Doesn't mean we should give up our rights though.
Le tres elite (and French, dammit!)Andy K Jong Il @ 97:
Non Sequitur! now that is a great comic!
David Hawes @ 91:
That was a beer fart.
xoites defends Constitution @ 96:
Sorry x but in an alternate universe I appear to be a horse in some kind of giant stable. Your work is much appreciated however.
Peter G @ 101:
I'll pass on the beer. But...
Peter G @ 105:
From now on i will feed you a steady diet of bannanas.
Le tres elite (and French, dammit!)Andy K Jong Il @ 106:
Andy K!
I took me 35 minutes to plow through your titlle!
In MY Universe I own the stable
David Hawes @ 109:
In my universe i wish you were...
stable.
:)
xoites defends Constitution @ 110:
And ruin all this good fun? nawww.
Peter G @ 105:
At least you get to be the whole horse, not just one end ass I seem to be hear here!!
That was it. Out.
David Hawes @ 113:
Good night David, sleep well. :)
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 112:
Say not so palomino!
xoites defends Constitution @ 108:
Looks like it through tyree off, too. I want Gravatar back, dammit!
Andy K Jong Il @ 116:
Well, not sure gravitars would explain everything.
Obama just greeted a huge crowd of 35,000+ supporters in Philly. It's the largest crowd of his campaign.
And, according to one poll, Obama is up 20 points over Clinton nationally. Hope this is accurate.
Don't think we can take much more of this! Hope we have a nominee next week!
Le tres elite (and French, dammit!)Andy K Jong Il @ 106:
Willie is still one of my favorite entertainers
When shovelling out the huge stable owned by the Lords of The Universe watch which way the shit flows in wet weather. This observation will guide you not only as a plumber’s helper but in most organizations and often in marriage.
charles hussein @ 120:
Hey, if someone has access to the stable owned by the Lords of the Universe and they're shoveling out the sh*t, could they please shovel out the Bushies while they're at it? Just asking.
I have decide to denounce my title and give up the throne until the next bowel movement.
xoites defends Constitution @ 122:
Thank you and please light a match.
Ron @ 123:
I feel a fresh Febreze wafting through.
Ron @ 123:
Too dangerous just yet. Let me open a window.
Hey Ron! Is it snowing at yours?
xoites defends Constitution @ 125:
Open all of them.
His Flatulence the Highly Exumed and Reprimanded xoites defends Constitution if The Price Is Right without Jeapordy @ 117:
Explain everything? No, but when we had Gravatars it was easy to take a quick glance at the screen and see who was commenting without having to read names. And, face it, unless you have an original handle- like your basic one- it's easy to be confused for someone else. Have you ever noticed comments from Andy, andy or AndrewK? Hell, Bonkers has been here a long time, but now I'm not sure ifs/he was a regular at the LNMC back in the day, or if I'm confusing that handle with Kablooie.
Hi Miss Kitty! :)
Ok, everybody put away your fart jokes!
xoites defends Constitution @ 122:
Consider my place your porta potty in a storm to avoid runny open threads and the subsequent stinky reviews.
miss_kitty @ 126:
Hi Miss Kitty,
Glad I'm not the only woman here. The men appear to go all scatalogical at night.
miss_kitty @ 126:
Not yet, but I heard that it might. Never been so cold for this time of year.
Leslie [Bitter Elitist Hussein] @ 118:
I hope so too. Do you think hillary will cry when she concedes?
$todonuts
miss_kitty @ 126:
We hit 70 degrees on Thursday for the first time this year. It was a cold, gray, snowy winter in West Michigan, and we traded it in for a warm, earth-shaking spring.
Leslie [Bitter Elitist Hussein] @ 131:
Actually we are that way during the day as well, but we hide it better. :)
Leslie [Bitter Elitist Hussein] @ 131:
They're so bad. They had to set up a locker room at another site for their 'sword fights'
:D
tHezombieHusseinGaMeOfLiFe @ 133:
I bet I cry when she concedes...out of relief!
miss_kitty @ 136:
Yeah, I've noticed!! :-D
xoites beware of offers from someone wanting to spring for your honemoon !ive heard thier are phonograpy king pins on the internet doing that , paying for your hotel room and next thing you know your on prouds tv doing the nasty taken with hidden cameras!
Andy K Jong Il @ 134:
We had 83 degrees last weekend. I took a 4 hour nap to keep warm tonight...
Leslie [Bitter Elitist Hussein] @ 137:
I hope not, Fema still can't handle floods.
Leslie [Bitter Elitist Hussein] @ 131:
HEY! I've been here for a while now, Leslie. We're not all retarded, you know.
:P
tyree @ 139:
Oh man, i can't wait to be a star!
Maybe Paris Hilton and i can distract America from the War in Iran!
xoites defends Constitution @ 141:
LOL!
hey Andy! ya all shook up?
Andy K Jong Il @ 142:
HHHeeyy, II'mmm nnnoott rreeetttaarrddddeeeddddd.
Ron @ 146:
No, just special. :)
miss_kitty @ 140:
Spent the better part of a spring afternoon on Mackinac Island one day and the temperature never rose above 50 degrees. Got off the ferry to head home, and two miles away from the Straits it was 70 degrees. Thus is life near large bodies of water in temperate climates.
Leslie [Bitter Elitist Hussein] @ 138:
Apologies ladies but it's our only chance to get in touch with our inner anal retentives. Except x, of course. Apparently he can't hold his chile and beer tonight.
Andy K Jong Il @ 142:
Phew! Glad we can look to North Korea for help! :-)
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