Why isn't John McCain patriotic? Does he hate America?

No more "In Memoriams", crooksandliars! Please don't put them up anymore. They were the only good things this hack with the unspellable last name ever did. But the only thing in memoriam now is his credibility.

Well, welll, welll George "Sneakey" Stephanopoulos, you are up to your old games, aren't you, chap! I could barely stomach that pathetic love fest with John McCain this morning. I am just thankful that Charlie Gibson wasn't around to give a big slobbery kiss to John McCain to thank him for promising not to raise his precious taxes. I tell you if that 3 way ganging up on Obama in the debate backfires and Barak wins the Pennsylvania primary, I will be happy as a clam! I will be as happy as a hippo in a hammock! George Stephanopoulos, in the words of the ebullient Rev. Al Sharpton, "YOUUU SHOOOULDD BE FIREDDDDDD!" Also, dear friends, I would like to recommend a couple of good political articles. Here is a good article on potentially the most masterful political mind on the web today...a young man named Chistopher Humphrey:

http://jviz.blogspot.com/2008/02/chris-humphrey-gives-us-answers.html

and here is an excellent article for both fans of politics and music as Elton John and Cat Stevens speak on some important social and political issues:

http://jviz.blogspot.com/2007/09/deep-thoughts-from-elton-john-and-cat.html

Oh, the Stephy/McCain love fest was this morning? I missed it, darn. [snark]

So did Stephy ask McSame any of the tough questions? Just asking.

To be fair, Nash McCabe already ruled out voting for John McCain. It said so in the same news report that initially stated she had trouble supporting Obama. The problem is that she was an obvious Hillary shill, not that she was a Republican.

Ratface @ 10:

Leslie [Bitter Elitist Hussein] @ 7:

Oh, the Stephy/McCain love fest was this morning? I missed it, darn. [snark]

So did Stephy ask McSame any of the tough questions? Just asking.

Nah!

and I was hoping to be surprised... [snark]

"They started it!" - C&L

"And that's supposed to make it OK?" - anyone with half a brain

Alright. I'll shut up.

my gawd, which of these 2 hates America more!?!

They hate America and all it stands for.

.. but we already knew that ..

.. sigh ..

George is NOT a Real American.

Leslie [Bitter Elitist Hussein] @ 2:

But it's OK when Republicans and the media [asking about flag lapel pins] don't wear flag lapel pins. Because we all know they're patriotic. It's just not OK when Democrats don't wear them. Then that's news!

not all Dems, it seems to follow only one candidate

Stephie gives prostitutes a bad reputation.

Why was McCain all giggly this morning? Not very Presidential.

Bit NOLA @ 20:

Ah, the flag as a tool for subjugating the weak-minded....

Very Nazi. Very republican.

Nixon loved flag pins.

That's the way I see it too. Good point.

Quick! to the idiot mobile!

we must inform the losers!

Go ahead...google McCain in images mode. You won't find one single picture of him with a flag pin unless one has been added since the debate.

You know, if the "tough questions" weren't asked, then I guess the issue of "electability" doesn't apply to McCain. What that means in the minds of ABC, I don't know. But the corporate media have found their champion....Old John. Keep that in mind.

BTW I love the ad about McCain and his trillion for polluters. Saw it on tv only once but it made an impact.

Did Georgie ask McCain about the flag pin? It is the issue voters want to know about. (snark)

Stephanopolis has been exposed for the political hack that he is. To take directions from Sean Hannity, to talk to Sean Hannity, is unforgivable.

Being a white christian means never having to show your patriotism.

Hey McCain! Hey Stephanopoulos! Where the fuck are your flag pins, guys??? Oh, I get it! It's only important that the black guy proves his "patriotism"

Bob Sheafer had a good closing on his show today with a take on the flag pin. Patriotism is not about a piece of jewlery on your lapel, but what's behind it, in your heart. As far as boy George goes, he's proven he's willing to be play the role of Robin to any Batman that comes along. He exemplifies the meaning of sycophant.

steve @ 23:

Leslie [Bitter Elitist Hussein] @ 2:

But it's OK when Republicans and the media [asking about flag lapel pins] don't wear flag lapel pins. Because we all know they're patriotic. It's just not OK when Democrats don't wear them. Then that's news!

not all Dems, it seems to follow only one candidate

Bingo. Which means that every time that this issue is brought up, whether it be by a right-wing attacker or by a left-wing hypocrisy-pointer-outer, it ends up hurting Obama among the pinheads who have already bought the core story.

Got that, C&L? Silly little gotchas do not work when the core issue has already been used to tar one side. Anyone with half a brain is ignoring both the original non-issue and any subsequent findings of petty hypocrisy on the same. The only people who give one sh*t about these things are the pinheads and it's too late to change their minds, and rubbing their noses in it will actually make it worse.

"Stop hurting America." - J.Stewart

No one wore a lapel pin at the Philadelphia debate.

crazylikeafox @ 49:

PLEASE make the health care issue about McCain's lifelong coverage by the American taxpayer and his cancer that would make him insurable through any private policy to any Republican you speak with.

Say it over and over and over.

Remember, that's how the propaganda sinks in.

Sorry, UNINSURABLE

odanny @ 27:

If Obama shows up to an interview dressed like an Uncle Sam recruiting poster, would the media call him patriotic or a pimp? Enquiring minds want to know

If Obama said that the sky is blue, they'd say it shows his "elitist insensitivity" - "There were clouds over many parts of America today, including states the Democrats need to win in November. He completely ignored millions of Americans."

(quoting from In Major Blunder, Obama Says Sky Is Blue )

No lapel pin ! They hate America ! Just shows you ( if one has a brain ) what a sham this lapel pin " issue " is . Karl Rove Republicans and Karl Rove Clintonites , one and the same .#40 Filthy Harry sums it up nicely .

I'm working on a video on it now, but McCain almost never wears a flag pin.

Andrew C @ 3:

No more "In Memoriams", crooksandliars! Please don't put them up anymore. They were the only good things this hack with the unspellable last name ever did. But the only thing in memoriam now is his credibility.

I totally agree with you on this.

Mr. George has shown his true colors. IMHO, he is using and has always used the deaths of soldiers to give himself an air of reverence, an air of decency.

He is an indecent HACK. His performance last week was unforgivable.

Find another way to honor the dead, C&L. Many of us will now sneer at the mention of Mr. George's name. You might as well have O'Reilly doing them now.

Steffie, John, why do you hate America? Can we get McCabe in here to grill them?
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If Wednesday's debate raised question, then listening to George's three, unapologetic, media whores today on "This Week," should provide an adequate answer. One other thing, when is McLaughlin going to give us an honest pronunciation of Barack?

I have the feeling this is the only time you'll hear the corporate media challenge Mccain on anything. This scrutiny about him will die after today. I bet the NYT's won't even say anything else about it. That's how the corporate media operates. If it's somebody they want in office, they will not drag a story out like they will if it's Obama. If you notice the at the same time they're talking about Mccains temper, they're ramping up the talk about Obama's associations.

Chris Wallace on FnS mentioned the Flag Pin debate this morning. Can anyone provide me with the clip?

BTW: If anyone missed it, Bob Scheiffer really put the "flag pin" nonsense to bed today.

It's getting to the point where every time I read or hear the phrase "lapel pin", every time I see or hear or read about George Stephanopoulos and/or Charlie Gibson, I think of a guy named Tim Donaghy.

Make the call, you crooked bastards!

Maybe we should gather up all the pictures we can find of McCain and Clinton without flag pins. There are thousands I am sure. Then send them to Russert, Stephanopolous, Gibson, Hannity and anyone else who has been harping on this issue. These stupid accusations by the MSM need to be stopped. Sadly too many people believe everything the media feeds them. And sadly too many people are basing their opinions on the candidates on flag pins, orange juice, bowling and whatever diversions they can come up with. Apparently the MSM think the public is too stupid to understand the real issues so why tell them about what is really important. Unfortunately the MSM is right about a number of the voters.

I didn't get to see the nonsense because I have given up ABC (All Bullshit Channel) as a policy after the hatchet job of last Wednesday by those two oh-so-serious "journalists" Charlie Glibscum and George Stepinawfulstuff.
I do believe that virtually all prominent members of the current "administration" wear flag pins and we all know how well that worked out. So much for lengthy experience…

Sorry Nicole....you were at 72

McCain giggled and looked uncomfortable? Maybe he's amazed that he got to this point, and is thinking of that saying, "Be careful what you wish for, you may just get it".

Did McCain just say the American people are ANGRY? What an elitist. I demand an apology.

They made sure that Katrina vanden Heuvel of The Nation wasn't on the show today after the spanking she gave Cokie Roberts last week. I bet McCain insisted on nixing Katrina for his appearance.

liberAL @ 75:

Nicole Bell @ 71

If you noticed, McCain talked faster and faster trying to not answer directly the questions Stephanopolous asked him. And giggled a lot too. What answers McCain did give were such lies that anyone would become confused trying to sort out what he is for and what he was for before he was against it.

BTW, appreciate the In Memoriam segment.

I agree. He just kept spinning and lying faster and faster.

Not to put a damper on the "conversations", but does anyone remember when that question about Obama wearing a flag pin originally came up? I remember it being a long long time ago and something about he didn't have to wear a flag pin to show he was patriotic but rather went by his actions (or words to that effect)??? I am just wondering if that original comment ages and ages ago has festered in the minds of some people who do choose to wear a flag pin, and is now resurfacing after the bitter comment?

The funny thing about calling Obama elitist is that's a better sobriquet for the Stephanopoulis and Gibson's abyssmal performance at the debate the other day.

Want to know about what they'll do about spiraling fuel costs

Price gouging and war profiteering at the gas pumps

The cost of health care and lack of medical insurance in this country

Stagnant wages, lost jobs, and so many jobs cutting back on hours

The restoration of Civil Rights in this country?

Tough, we're going to ask about flag pins.

johnnypunchclock @ 70:

They have red, white and blue boxers on courtesy of Charlie Gibson.

I have red, white and blue buttocks everytime I visit a dominatrix.

not that i care about this issue as there are more pressing ones, but you would think they'd be wearing those little stubs of metal on their jackets to get their point across: "I'm wearing MYYYYYY flag lapel, LEEEEBERALS!" haha, cons must be getting senile along with The Cain.

No flag lapel pins? Why do George Stuphitupyer-popoulis and McSame hate our country so much?

Republicans are ALWAYS Patriotic and therefore, McCain not wearing a flag pin doesn't matter.

Besides... he's old... he forgets stuff.

I heard someone suggest that Obama open a company that manufactures American Flag lapel pins, and still not wear one!!! It's an adornement, I remember the pin that looked like 3 people standing hand in hand back in the 70's. I never would've thought that a flag was required adornement. I was an Eagle scout, US Marine, and I don't even own one, although I do fly both flags every day. I just don't wear one, it would be ruined in one day on my job. The RW and the CW (Clinton Wing) don't want a real person to get the WH. That would really fuck up the corporotist agenda we are all victims of.

Umm...mccain was in the air, not any fields.

if you don't think the 'air' is on the field of battle you are an idiot, as over 10,000 american airman lost their lives in ww2, and , just so you know, he was shot down, he didn't crash. trying to talk to libtards is like trying to talk to a 1 year old, neither understands.

103 jim

By your logic you would have had to have supported both Gore and Kerry who were in Vietnam over bush who was in the champagne assignment stateside that he eventually deserted.

Additionally your World War II stats aren't relevant unless you think mccain fought in World War II and not Vietnam.

The library is about to time me out.

jim @ 106:

usaf, 1969-74, baudette afs, mn., tan son nhut ab, so.vietnam, chanute afb, rantoul ill. and extended my enlistment to upper heyford, england. and dont make me defend mccain, hes an idiot, but dont question his patriotism.

Just why on earth is his military service that important for who is he is now? Hitler had experience from WW1 and that did not automatically make him a "good" patriot. I'm only saying that since having military experience does not in any way guarantee proper patriotism and leadership. For me he is instantly out of the list for supporting the modern day imperialism that the neocons have formed their program after... stury PNAC if you're unware. He seems to have no problems sending people to a country where they have no place being in in military uniforms.

bush, mccain, and i'm sorry to say, the clintons are passing the presidency around like a beer bong. very undignified.

Stephanopolous should aspire to Bob Schieffer's competence. Schieffer gave a brilliant commentary about label pins this AM on Face the Nation http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=4029456n

Silly me, I thought Stephanopolous just might set McCane straight in his false comments about Obama's "close friendship" with 60's terrorist William Ayers. These are the facts as reported by both FoxNews AND the Washington Post,
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/17/fact-check-obamas-relationship-w... http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_weatherman_co....

Ayers DID donate $200 to Obama's election to the Illinois State Senate 17 years ago. Obama's predecessor in the Illinois State Senate DID ask Ayers to host a "get-to-know-candidate-Obama" gathering at his house -- which is in the same Hyde Park neighborhood as Obama's in Chicago. But they are not friends in the sense of Homer Simpson and Ned Flanders. Also Obama and Ayers DID serve as members of the board of the "Woods Fund of Chicago," at the same time between 1998-2001. It is... not a subversive organization, not a terrorist cell, not an underground group seeking to overthrow the US government.... but an ANTI-POVERTY CHARITY.

The old "honorable" guy made it sound as if Ayers is a close advisor in Obama's Presidential campaign and that therefore Obama should denounce his asssociation with "terrorists." Stephanopolous' job is to present the facts and not allow McCane to go unchallenged when he makes false statements. Saying that McCane has his own associations (Hagee) to denounce, without clarifying Obama's associations, is not enough.

1984 @ 107:

jim @ 106:

usaf, 1969-74, baudette afs, mn., tan son nhut ab, so.vietnam, chanute afb, rantoul ill. and extended my enlistment to upper heyford, england. and dont make me defend mccain, hes an idiot, but dont question his patriotism.

Just why on earth is his military service that important for who is he is now? Hitler had experience from WW1 and that did not automatically make him a "good" patriot. I'm only saying that since having military experience does not in any way guarantee proper patriotism and leadership. For me he is instantly out of the list for supporting the modern day imperialism that the neocons have formed their program after... stury PNAC if you're unware. He seems to have no problems sending people to a country where they have no place being in in military uniforms.

so now you are comparing mccain to hitler, there is a difference. i agree with the rest of what you said.and , no matter how hard you try, you will not get me to vote for mccain. the reason the dems don't often win the white house is that they mostly make fun of such things as family values, patriotism, christians and the military. wise up, don't talk, and then the dems may get the white house. the more you talk, the more you lose.

Hanniopolis , you should have asked or challenged McSame about this " special fund ' for pre-existing health care problems , since he doesn't include pre existing conditions in his wonderful health care plan and playing the Hanoi Hilton card AGAIN , is getting real old McSame , along with the other bumper sticker attack on Canada and UK's health care system , advancing the myth that they are so bad .
What's weird about McSame is , he only seems comfortable with his memorized bumper stickers and not explaining in DETAIL how is health care system is suppose to work . Notice how he lights up and giggles when ever he brings the Hanoi Hilton " there was a time when i didn't get good health care " , what the HELL does that have to do with people dying here in the U.S. Get Real , because of bad or no health care .

Poor Nash: a seemingly unwitting stooge, used for propaganda and tossed aside. I doubt she meant anything by it. (I doubt she's evil: working her ass off to keep a roof over their heads and all.) Collateral damage of the war machine.

106 jim Says: usaf, 1969-74, baudette afs, mn., tan son nhut ab, so.vietnam, chanute afb, rantoul ill. and extended my enlistment to upper heyford, england. and dont make me defend mccain, hes an idiot, but dont question his patriotism.
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Serioulsy. Tell the GOP attack machine. Not us.

Jim (120), you're an idiot. You're posing as a tough guy here. "Be a man...."? Please, go outside, take a few deep breaths, and relax.

Where in the Constitution are we required to have health care provided? Nowhere. Where are we required to have safe air travel regulated by the government? Safe drugs? Safe drinking water and healthy air? Nowhere. Are you suggesting that the Constitution literally enumerates all the instanced of federal intervention? Go on, take a few minutes and think as hard as you can. We'll wait.

To say that Democrats "don't care about the Constitution" is no doubt a cheap thrill for your primitive brain.

No dude, get outside and get some air. You've been sitting in your trailer breathing Fox Fumes for too long.

why those unpatriotic S.O.Bs off with there heads. I am shocked beyond believe somebody call fox news I am sure it will get 2500 showings on there suprizingly balanced news program

No flag pin! NO FLAG PIN! Burn him at the stake!! BURN! BURN!

This is a nice attempt at analogizing it to Obama, but Obama specifically stated that he would not wear a flag pin on his lapel because he didn't think it was true patriotism. Who would ever say something so silly?

I GIVE UP. YOU DID IT, I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR A DEMOCRAT IN NOVEMBER. I TOLD YOU IF YOU KEPT TALKING THIS WOULD HAPPEN. CAN'T YOU FIGURE IT OUT? YOU LEFT WINGNUTS FROM MEXIFORNIA ARE LOSING THE CENTER OF YOUR [OUR] PARTY. YOU ARE LIKE HILLARY AND BARACK, DESTROYING EACH OTHER SO THE REAL BAD GUYS CAN WIN. YOU HAVE MANAGED TO DRIVE THIS MODERATE DEMOCRAT AWAY. KEEP TALKING, MILLIONS MORE WILL COME WITH ME AND IN NOVEMBER YOU WILL WAKE UP, NOT BELIEVEING YOU LOST THE WHITE HOUSE AGAIN. MY PARTY HAS BEEN STOLEN BY A RADICAL , FAR LEFT FRINGE GROUP THAT WOULD MAKE STALIN PROUD. REMEMBER THIS WHEN YOU WAKE UP IN NOVEMBER, THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION, AND YOU CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHY THE DEMS LOST, YOU LOST BECAUSE YOU DROVE ME, AND MILLIONS MORE LIKE ME, AWAY. BYE=BYE, AND BYE=BYE TO THE WHITE HOUSE.

Bit NOLA @ 20:

Ah, the flag as a tool for subjugating the weak-minded....

Very Nazi. Very republican.

Nixon loved flag pins.

The new swastika.

Jim,

I'm betting voting for McCain is what you had in mind all along. But even if not, if it means so much to you then vote for McCain. Don't yell, don't have a heart attack, just vote for McCain.

Andrew C @ 8:

Tweety can be okay sometimes. Sometimes he surprises me. George Stupidpoopsalotsis ("Do you think Adolf Hitler loved America as much as you do, Senator Osama... er Obama?") and Charlie Gibblits ("don't all answer at once... errr... I have no idea how to conduct a debate... Zzzz... McCain took my pills....Zzzz") have no redeeming qualities.

if you don't like what's posted here, please find a site you prefer. your gop crap
is bs. and if you don't want to know how many of our troops you and your gop pundits
(kill)destroy each week, stick your head where it's dark and that is not in the ground.

E @ 134:

jim @ 120:

name one thing the government, any government, does well. .

Sure, got a minute? These are only off the top of my head. If ya need more, let me know.

Interstate Highway System
National Defense
Regulation of Air Travel
Heck, regulation of ALL travel
Center for Disease Control
Clean, healthy water in urban areas
Trash pick-up in Urban Areas
Free education to all children
WWII Rationing to defeat the Nazi's
Cleaning up of Pollution after the Industrial Revolution (still could use some work here though)
Creation (through policy) of the internet
Regulation of broadcast stations (so we get TV and radio without interference)
Welfare for the destitute
Welfare for the blind
Welfare for the sick
Welfare for the deaf (you get the point)
Tax Collection ( I don't like it, but government is pretty good at it)

Need more, just holla!
Eric Gray

it is true that the government does all those things, which ones do they do well?that was the question. national defense? remember 9-11? welfare? ask anyone on welfare if its done well. travel?been to an airport recently?cdc? the last ones to know about anything.education for free? 1st, its our taxes that pay for free education, 2nd, its not very good, especially in our big cities.clean water? why do so many of us buy it?trash pickup, once again not free, our taxes at work. i agree with you on one thing, tax collection, that is done well by local,state and federal governments.regulation of our air-waves? censorship you mean, don't you?invention of the internet? ah, i believe that was private enterprize that capitalized on that.YOU FORGET THE QUESTION, it was what does the government do well, not what does the government do. see the difference?so, all you lefties, sit around, make fun of me, a union man who makes 40k a year, tell yourselves how lucky i am to have so many elitist people like yourselves look after me, and are trying to make things better. the problem of course, is that i don't want you taking care of me. i have done it for 60 years, and by the way, i never voted republican in my life, and won't in 2008. i will find a 3rd party to vote for.you see how i, a part of middle america, have been made fun of here? you remember 3rd parties, nadar in 2000? cost my man gore dearly. i believe the poor and disabled must be taken care of, i believe our education has to be as good in our cites as it is in the suburbs, i believe that our prisons should be clean and safe, serving decent food. i believe bush is an idiot and should be impeached. but in the end i believe he is a patriot, one that i disagree with, one who i think is out of touch with me, as many of you are. so make your little jokes, so that you appear witty, tell me that i need to be pitied, that i dont 'get it'. that you have a better education then me, so therefore will take care of me. you no more fit into my world then i do yours. but you stole my party from me, you think my voice is worth less then yours, afterall, you are smarter. but there are more like me then there are of you, and you are driving all of us away.we don't want to be taken care of just because you want to feel better about yourselves. improve the government services to the needy, the disabled, the sick, does tat sound like a republican ti you? i think not. but, don't make fun of me because i go to church, that i don't want 'free' healthcare, that i ocassionally wear a lapel pin. keep making your jokes, just keep them to yourselves, if you don't, mccain wins.

Hillary Clinton got an endorsement from the same guy who is suing her for having the Elton John fundraiser and is behind the vast right wing conspiracy stuff.

Sounds pretty kinky to me. Or very desperate, like someone is under someone's thumb.

Much more interesting is the Rolling Stone article "The Queen Of Pork." I didn't know she and Calvin Butts were so connected at the...um, yeah...butt. She got him money, he gave her an endorsement for 1.5 million dollars. Wonder what she gave Scaife?

And please, someone who taped it, let's count the number of times McCain blinks as if he's either very nervous, or very very angry. Especially during the Hagee question. Happy hunting!

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It looks like you chilled out, but after your earlier rant, I have no interest in reading what you typed out. I suspect it's... (no way to win friends and influence people)

And as expected, Stephanopoulos doesn't question McCain's patriotism. Thanks for proving what a retard you are, George.

(bitter) Edwin Hussein @ 144:

142 jim Says:
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Whatever. Try no using a cudgel to get your point across, next time. It's not working in the American quest to "spread democracy to Iraq," and it won't work here either.

yes ,whatever.and i have no idea what a cudgel is, as i only have a high school diploma. too bad that us democrats can't have an exchange of where our party should be. i have already surrendered, the far left, lunatic fringe has won. you are in charge. i'm sure your instinct is to instruct me on what a cudgel is, but i don't care. i express myself as best i can, thank you for pointing out my inadaquact way of doing so. you are so superior to me. give me your e-mail, this way i can contact you and you can tell me what to do as i encounter problems, it will make my life easier if i can get you to make decisions for me. isn't that what you really want?

Is it hard for them to walk through doorways with those big arrows attached to their shoulders?