Whoops! And how many dead and wounded US troops thought they were fighting for democracy and freedom? How many dead, wounded and displaced Iraqis have had to suffer so that the US could control their oil?

Can Mr. 100 Years put a price tag on that?

McBush Wants YOU to fight for Exxon.

Dumb-ass republicans have been used and abused and still will cling to "they hate us for our freedom".

That's the first intelligent statement that I've heard out of McCain in quite some time!

War hero? Did he save a platoon or something?

Barrett D @ 9:

as far as i can tell mccain did not say the war in iraq was started because of oil. he is very correct though that american troops are staying in iraq because of oil. this is actually a valid concern, because america has now made many enemies in iraq and to leave iraq and risk handing control of oil to them will give them a source of wealth to fund attacks against america. but you reap what you sew, eh?

That's some heavy nuance there.

The fact is, and most of the public knows it, we started this war for oil. End of discussion. Republicans don't do nuance, remember?

Barrett D @ 9:

as far as i can tell mccain did not say the war in iraq was started because of oil. he is very correct though that american troops are staying in iraq because of oil. this is actually a valid concern, because america has now made many enemies in iraq and to leave iraq and risk handing control of oil to them will give them a source of wealth to fund attacks against america. but you reap what you sew, eh?

Oh please. Iraqis can barely feed themselves since we leveled the place.

An "astounding development" that Chrissy boy will start re-framing by tomorrow.

HDon @ 8:

War hero? Did he save a platoon or something?

I heard he wiped out a whole nest of enemy fighters, then jumped on a grenade to save his comrades.

Wasn't that it?

There is a clip of bush someowhere saying that "we must end our dependence on middle eastern oil, because the people in that region don;t like us being there" (paraphrasing)

Leslie [Hussein] @ 12:

Oh please. Iraqis can barely feed themselves since we leveled the place.

I think they were having to import food even before we made things worse by leveling the place (Anyone remember the "Oil for Food" program that Saddam was accused of stealing billions of dollars from over a period of a decade? A trillion dollars for a war makes that look like petty graft).

It's a good thing McCain's not black, because then he'd have people falling over themselves talking about how the government would never do such a thing.

Barrett D @ 9:

as far as i can tell mccain did not say the war in iraq was started because of oil. he is very correct though that american troops are staying in iraq because of oil. this is actually a valid concern, because america has now made many enemies in iraq and to leave iraq and risk handing control of oil to them will give them a source of wealth to fund attacks against america. but you reap what you sew, eh?

Kind of like when we left Vietnam and the nation of Vietnam continued attacking America for decades.

I know..I know... this time is different. The Vietnamese were Asian and the Iraqis are, oh my god, scary Arabs.

CD @ 5:

I'm betting McCain claims tomarrow that he was talking about the Gulf War.

He already did. On the plane after the McFuckup. Dana Gash (Blinky) on CNN said it about an hour ago. McCain said he was talking about the "Gulf War". You hit the nail on the head but McCan't was quicker than you thought. One of his handlers obviously gave him the tip.

Barrett D @ 17:

i'm just saying regardless of why america went to war, it is a valid point right now that it is indeed in americas interest to keep oil out of the hands of its enemies.

which should not be seen as an apology. the white house is completely responsible for this situation.

Iraqis have a right to their oil. We don't. And when did the Iraqi people become our enemies?

Captain Bitter Elitist Hussein Kangaroo @ 24:

CD @ 5:

I'm betting McCain claims tomarrow that he was talking about the Gulf War.

He already did. On the plane after the McFuckup. Dana Gash (Blinky) on CNN said it about an hour ago. McCain said he was talking about the "Gulf War". You hit the nail on the head but McCan't was quicker than you thought. One of his handlers obviously gave him the tip.

Probably Lieberman.

Must be off his meds.

sharkcellar @ 25:

Ron @ 21:

If anyone didn't know that the invasion was for control of oil they would have to be dumber than a box of rocks.

Be careful there, you're stepping on the toes of a lotta troop supporters with that one. They just might smack you around with their magnetic ribbons for such crazy talk.

Let me borrow a phrase from GWB. Bring em on!

war hero my ass..

Does this mean Pelosi will finally put impeachment on the table?

Yeah Ruthless People, IMPEACH NOW!

Peak oil is a farse, while Sadam was in Power ( a puppet for USS) the main goal was to keep Iraq and Iran's Oil off the market to keep prices high. Opec is a monopoly the British set up after ww2, all monies going to Saudi Arabia is actually the kingpin of the world, You know the ones who own the banks Rothhchild and the queen of england, Barbara Bush is somehow related to the crown of england in whatever the case the top enchelon is not hard to figure out. McCains remarks to 100 year war has to do with limiting Venzula oil and eventually Russia, who actually has the most oil in the world, but being that they are Communist the people of that country would never know, so it is mostly setting dorcid for same reason Iraq's Oil is not suppose to flow.

Rusty Shackleford @ 16:

HDon @ 8:

War hero? Did he save a platoon or something?

I heard he wiped out a whole nest of enemy fighters, then jumped on a grenade to save his comrades.

Wasn't that it?

I think taking five years of torture without telling the captors everything he knew about everything would be enough to merit some respect for his war service. Personally, if somebody were bending my fingers back I'd tell 'em whatever they wanted - but I'm a wimp, so that's not really saying much.

I think there's enough evidence that McCain has either been bribed, brain-washed or blackmailed (possibly water-boarded) into submission by the extreme radicals of the neo-con movement and while he may have once been a "war-hero" he is now a ridiculous and dangerous "war-monger" who has abandoned any shred of credibility.

Can't wait to see the media gulp down a big ol' bucket of turd-blossom spin on this admission though. Should be interesting to watch them squirm away from this.

This idiot has gone along with the murderous gang occupying the white house and would pull the gold from his grammie's teeth if it meant wealth in his pocket. Where the fuck was he before the invasion of Iraq? If he knew it was for oil why didn't he speak out. Because he is a coward. He has always been an opportunist and a coward. He is a shell of a human being, a living corpse kept alive by greed and narcicism. Because of people like McCain the toll of human suffering has risen a thousand fold. An Iraqi parent holding the maimed and shattered body of their child has McCain and others who could have spoken out, but didn't, to blame. And the thousands of parents and loved ones of our troops have McCain to thank for their loss. If he thinks he will be president of our United States he is mistaken.

Barrett D @ 9:

as far as i can tell mccain did not say the war in iraq was started because of oil. he is very correct though that american troops are staying in iraq because of oil. this is actually a valid concern, because america has now made many enemies in iraq and to leave iraq and risk handing control of oil to them will give them a source of wealth to fund attacks against america. but you reap what you sew, eh?

Since he said, "... will then prevent us from having ever to send our young men and women into conflict again in the Middle East” (emphasis added), that does confuse things, as we keep "sending" them every day. However, the interpretation of this that "send" implied "in the first place" is perfectly logical (not to say you said it wasn't), and it would be a stretch to say such an interpretation would be a matter of "taking it out of context" (although I don't have the context, which would really have to be crafty to set this up as such).

In any case, this does deserve a "McWow: that's fudged up."

At the same time, I'm gonna hafta go ahead and respectfully take issue with saying "Tweety gets this exactly right:" SilentPatriot. If someone else said this, they'd be called a leftist is exactly right? Although that may be the case, I dunno, it sounds like a backhanded remark to me, especially considering Tweety contrasts it with, "... for John McCain, the war hero, to be saying... ? (emphasis added)" WTF? Those are supposed to be diametrically opposed or something? If that's what he's insinuating, he can go fudge himself... again.

I have to say that Tweety gave it a good shot just now. He really pinned this on McShame. Of course he brought out the Re. Wright card right afterward. Putz.

Don't be fooled again @ 40:

Peak oil is a farse, while Sadam was in Power ( a puppet for USS) the main goal was to keep Iraq and Iran's Oil off the market to keep prices high. Opec is a monopoly the British set up after ww2, all monies going to Saudi Arabia is actually the kingpin of the world, You know the ones who own the banks Rothhchild and the queen of england, Barbara Bush is somehow related to the crown of england in whatever the case the top enchelon is not hard to figure out. McCains remarks to 100 year war has to do with limiting Venzula oil and eventually Russia, who actually has the most oil in the world, but being that they are Communist the people of that country would never know, so it is mostly setting dorcid for same reason Iraq's Oil is not suppose to flow.

?

I Like Pie @ 46:

That theory about Iraq becoming a safe haven for Al Queda reminds me a lot of the Domino Theory. If one South East Asian country falls to communism; they will use it as a platform to export communism to the rest of South East Asia.

You would think at a certain point these morons would come up with new propaganda.

You'd think at some point we wouldn't vote in morons!

Yeah, your right Leslie, but it was so blantant. I mean, to just come out and say it like that is amazing. I'm still stunned.

P.D. @ 55:

Yeah, your right Leslie, but it was so blantant. I mean, to just come out and say it like that is amazing. I'm still stunned.

Brain infarction or Alzheimer's.

We really need to cool it on the use of the hero word. Most everyone has become a hero. A soldier goes to Iraq where he serves as a cook in the Green Zone, and he's hailed as a hero when he comes home. A four-star general (Colin Powell) serves in the Pentagon during the first Gulf War, and he's hailed as a gulf war hero? Did he throw himself on an exploding computer in the Pentagon thereby saving the lives of his fellow generals? No, don't think so. John McCain a war hero? Hmmmm, kinda a tough one. Maybe, maybe not. A little bit of a hero if he was in solitary confinement in a tiny dirty cell for 6 years. A whole lot of a hero if he had been tortured unto death without giving any information. Not that 99.9% of us could keep silent, but if one did one would be correctly termed a hero. Charge into a burning building to save children, people, puppies or kittens, you're a hero. In a hail of fire killing your fellow soldiers you pick up a machine gun and charge head on into the fire of two overlapping machine gun nests, and by the grace of God or luck, you kill both machine gun crews -- YOU'RE A HERO!

What does crazy Lou Dobbs have to say about it, or is he still slamming illegals?

Rufus @ 59:

We really need to cool it on the use of the hero word. Most everyone has become a hero. A soldier goes to Iraq where he serves as a cook in the Green Zone, and he's hailed as a hero when he comes home. A four-star general (Colin Powell) serves in the Pentagon during the first Gulf War, and he's hailed as a gulf war hero? Did he throw himself on an exploding computer in the Pentagon thereby saving the lives of his fellow generals? No, don't think so. John McCain a war hero? Hmmmm, kinda a tough one. Maybe, maybe not. A little bit of a hero if he was in solitary confinement in a tiny dirty cell for 6 years. A whole lot of a hero if he had been tortured unto death without giving any information. Not that 99.9% of us could keep silent, but if one did one would be correctly termed a hero. Charge into a burning building to save children, people, puppies or kittens, you're a hero. In a hail of fire killing your fellow soldiers you pick up a machine gun and charge head on into the fire of two overlapping machine gun nests, and by the grace of God or luck, you kill both machine gun crews -- YOU'RE A HERO!

As Thom Hartmann would say; Well said!!!

Rebel Patriot @ 64:

Leslie [Hussein] @ 2:

Whoops! And how many dead and wounded US troops thought they were fighting for democracy and freedom? How many dead, wounded and displaced Iraqis have had to suffer so that the US could control their oil?

Can Mr. 100 Years put a price tag on that?

pricetag?

you pick...

$1 trillion
4040+ confirmed US deaths (counting Iraq in-country deaths only)
10's of thousands of wounded military
100's of thousands of mentally tormented military
over 6,000 US troop suicides per year (do the math on a 100 year occupation)
up to 1 million Iraqi civilians killed
up to 3-4 million Iraqi's displaced as external or internal refugees
countless millions poisoned from depleted uranium exposure.

need anymore?

Yeah, but I want McCain to say it! The a**hole.

THIS will work out good for mcwhsitle. the media will credit him with having the "courage" to tell us how it is. and he'll get a pass on being a cheerleader for this quagmire. has anyone noticed he sounds like the gopher in that winnie the pooh cartoon?

... oil, and in order to bring Jesus back... Don't forget that part.

Like I said, John McCain has PDS and seem to be showing sgin of early stages of Alzheimer

Lets not be niave we all know that the US has oil interests in Iraq. However so does the rest of the world. It is not our fault that area has the majority of the oil that is required for the rest of the to fuction properly. Those countries have an obligation to the entire world to be fair with the resources we all need. Just like the US has the obligation to export Humanitarian aid, give loans despite our debt, and afford everyone in the world the oppurtunity to take advantage of the freedoms we promote in our country. Saddam Hussein was a bad guy and deserved to die. We had every right to go in there because they violated the agreement that we made wtih them after the first gulf war which was to let inspectors in to look for WMDs. They didn't do that so we kicked their ass which we had the legal right to do under U.N. law. As far as the WMD's are concerned I was there and we found evidence of production, but since we allowed them 15 yrs to hide and transport them out of the country moslt likely Syria and Jordan ended up with them. What McCain stated was that we would no longer have to go to the middle east as long as us along with all the other Western countries would have an ally beside Israel in the Mid East. Remember we are not the only ones with hopes of an Iraq democracy. The people of Iraq along with all of Europe wnat it too; so easy up on your motherland she's doing the best she can.

This will get no press coverage.The media gives him a pass any chance they get.I'm so tired of this drill
Peace, jason

All the Dead and blind from the day of the idea of a war new that "OIL" was the major reason. Do you really think the American people are surprised, or do you peole think we are studpid. Oh such such hypocrits.

When Ms Clinton won Pa by two double digits did you think anyone who had any brains believed it?

Do you think that anyone in their right mind believes that the race for IN and Caroline is very close. Someone is at work doing some dirty underhanded stuff.

She's not close in either state. Oh but the powers that be.

McCain the Liar @ 52:

I can see the rest of the world saying "stupid Americans".

"stupid Americans".....isn't that redundant?

Ron @ 21:

If anyone didn't know that the invasion was for control of oil they would have to be dumber than a box of rocks.

George Bush

Dumb as a rock only dumber.

Hey, so what's his energy plan? Or is it a secret like Nixon's plan to end the war in Vietnam?

Rico @ 78:

War for oil? What a non-surprise. I suppose the icing on this cake will be the fulfillment of the promise to "obliterate Iran." Seems that at least 2 out of 3 candidates are comitted to making something like that happen. Makes one think it's foretold.

Rico ... You from the Bay Area?

Wes @ 79:

Ron @ 21:

If anyone didn't know that the invasion was for control of oil they would have to be dumber than a box of rocks.

George Bush

Dumb as a rock only dumber.

Actually, he and the men he surrounded himself with, if looked through the lens of a criminal, are quite effective and intelligent.

The problem most people have is that they view these psychopaths with their own concept of right/wrong.

they aren't playing by you paradigm.