Exit Polls Confirm: "Operation Chaos" Abject Failure
By SilentPatriot Monday May 05, 2008 8:15pm
John Amato: Rush Limbaugh has been screaming at the top of his lungs on his radio show---trying to be relevant in the heated Democratic primary for weeks now. He's trying to fool the media into thinking that his "Operation Chaos" nonsense is having an influence on the outcome of the latest string of primaries by telling his dittoheads to go out, switch parties and vote to skewer the election results and prolong the race. He's only killing time and playing games with his audience as we've just seen. Silent Patriot has some of the results via MSNBC.
The numbers are in and they confirm what has been obvious for, oh, 30 years now: Rush Limbaugh is an egotistical buffoon who, in fact, has no influence on anything but the opinions of his few gullible dittohead listeners.
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The way it's looking now, Republicans, who account for 11% of the entire Indiana electorate, have voted for Hillary by the same margin that the entire state has. Stick to ruining your own party, Rush. Lord knows you've done a fantastic job at that. (take the AOL Poll below the fold)
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Look at the Huffington Posts website story about "Operation Chaos".
That site is such trash.
Hey, that's an insult to buffoons everywhere.
Chris Gamble @ 1:
If you think it's "such trash" why are you suggesting we go there?
And no link either. Tsk, tsk.
I still don't have any real confidence in letting Republican-controlled corporations "count the votes" in secret with proprietary software, as has happened in Democratic primary elections in New Hampshire, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Indiana. Paper trails are a little joke that can easily be rigged and tampered with after the fact: check out blackboxvoting for stories about sloppy to non-existent chain-of-custody security in the New Hampshire primary election...
http://www.amazon.com/Superclass-Global-Power-Elite-Making/dp/0374272107
Fully illustrates the irrelevance of the American political process.
Jesus was telling you all this a month ago.
But did anyone listen to the Jesus?
NO!
Thanks a lot!
Bahawawawawaaaaaa! Rush is hero to the stupid!
You're jumping the gun.
While I'd hate to give Limbaugh any credit, I have to disagree with your methodology. Why should exit polls be considered an accurate measure of crossover effect?
Looking at the number of votes counted so far suggests a crossover rate higher than 11%. In some counties, turnout in this democratic primary nearly doubled the number of votes tallied for either Kerry or Gore. Breaking it down county by county, I think there's a lot of evidence that Hillary's "rural support" is mostly Republicans hoping to muck things up.
"Oxycontin" LImbaugh should be sued by Democratic party for interfering in their elections. Isn't there any law related to this action?
Limpdick is a chicken shit poltroon.
Interesting take this afternoon from Randi Rhodes. "Operation Chaos" is just cover for the conservatives republicans in face of the inevitable Republican crossover in the general election. Sure there are some ditto heads trying to screw things up, but more and more repubs are crossing over for the right reasons. Rush and the other assholes claim this is their doing when in fact it's a repudiation of their values.
Rush will huff and puff and make up some reason why he wasn't really serious about this anyway, "folks," and move on to some other self-aggrandizing scheme where he's this huge important person in the universe.
I think the greatest thing about the next four years will be watching him fade into insignificance. The less we speak of him, the better. What an incredible buffoon.
slippy hussein toad @ 12:
Speak less of whom? Never mind.......................................................
I stated in another thread that the effect of Operation Chaos was overblown and was called naive.
I stand by my original thoughts and they see to have been bourne out. I just don't think Republicans are motivated enough to go out and sabotage the Democratic primaries. Perhaps if they had a compelling candidate that they want to see elected, but support for McCain is lukewarm at best. Oh, they'll participate in all the smear campaigns and malign our candidates as always. But they aren't going out of their way to put McCain in office.
I truly believe that many Republicans are conflicted. Between wanting an end to the war and the divisive politics of the Clinton/Bush years, and perhaps more importantly, a return to true conservative values, which have been trashed by Bush and promises to continue with McCain. A defeat this year will allow them to go back to square one and rebuild their lost party.
Hot air.
The balloon rises... the air cools a bit... then the basket falls like a rock.
Right now Clinton has a 52-48 margin in Indiana.
If she can't get a substantial victory even with Rush's endorsement, I do think it is time for her to step aside.
This proves nothing, it indicates that it was an abject failure. Sorry, my social research experience can't let that one go...
Operation "I'm a big, fat, lying, fascist, drug-addict Nazi propagandist"!
Limbaugh is a multi-millionaire who signed a $250 million dollar contract for his show. He's a mouthpiece for the elites. He's NOT "your friend", you Dittiots who listen to him! I'm sure he CARES about you...COME ON! You have to be a complete fool/moron to listen to or believe him! UNLESS...you're a ga-jillionaire elitist like him!
slippy hussein toad @ 12:
Rush came into prominence in the Clinton years, slippy. And why would you believe early exit poll data from Republican voters who went in to vote for Hillary as part of Operation Chaos? Doesn't make sense.
I mean, it's refreshing to see people here suddenly trustful that Republicans would tell the truth, but why is the first time for that on an exit poll, and from people you'd consider to be dishonestly voting anyway?
You guys baffle me sometimes.
I have as little respect for Rush as anyone, but the logic here is flawed. As was the logic by Keith on MSNBC.
To say that because the ratio is the same, that the operation had no success is true only if you believe that republicans, voting sincerely, would have voted for her in the same ration without it... which I do NOT believe.
Republicans were voting overwhelmingly for Obama early in the campaign because they genuinely liked him. When that starts to be split, someone is manufacturing it.
Because there are approximately zero republicans who like Hillary Clinton.
The stupid, unethical drive to screw up Obama is real and it DID have an effect. Otherwise Obama would have sealed this deal a long time ago.
Don't underestimate the impact of idiots.
Others have stated it better,(megadittos to you folks) but I've known since day 1 of "OC" that it was Limbaugh's desperate attempt to still appear relevant.
The man had no impact on his own party this cycle.
Also, what Dennis said... why would we assume that anyone involved in something called Operation Chaos would be honest during exit polls?
This reprehensible intrusion into the democratic process was real and it did have an effect... and people that were part of it should be ashamed of themselves.
And this article is premature. We absolutely cannot conclude that from the information we have.... kind of the opposite, actually.
sorry patriot...it was not a "failure"
it appears that somewhere between 3 to 7 percent of hillary's votes came from toothless limbots
enuf to swing the election
and proof positive that she cannot win in the fall
QUIT NOW
Limpballs actually thinks he is important in the great scheme of things. How pitiful.
Yeah, keep it coming, Pills Limbaugh, trying to subvert the democratic process... just why do you hat e the American People anyway.
Election Fraud is a federal crime. Those 'activist judges' should lock away Rush and anyone else spouting the mantra of election manipulation!
james k. sayre @ 4:
you left out NY and NJ. it needs to be addressed everywhere.
Egotistical buffon? Yes.
No influence? Oh, but that it were true!
Rush may not DIRECTLY have any influence beyond his listeners, but his influence on the mainstream media is substantial. Brian Williams listens to Rush religiously. Rush helps set the table for our lazy journalist and pundit class with character assassination pieces on Democrats while simultaneously perpetrating the myth of the "liberal" media.
uncle joe hussein mccarthy @ 24:
that swing + DIEBOLD = bad news if hillary gets the nod
Off the subject, did any one else notice Norah's sexy legs? Shit! That skirt was a little higher than I expected to see. I still have a big crush on her
uncle joe hussein mccarthy @ 24:
The diddiots are a delusional group of very disciplined, ignorant, idiots. And is Noron auditioning for an eye-candy Faux fembot host spot with that skirt?
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Progressive Libertarian @ 29:
He's also a useful idiot that helps to get out the republican talking point du jour.
Um, the proper comparison isn't to the statewide BO/HC ratio. It is, since (to within a far smaller than negligible margin of error) all Republicans are white, to the the BO/HC ratio among white voters.
And that's not even taking into account the fact that Hillary derangement syndrome is nearly universal among Republicans. Outside of DailyKos, it's nearly confined to them.
Hillary's entire margin in Indiana will turn out to have been due to Rush. The good news is, it won't succeed in prolonging the primary season. Supers are about to read the tea leaves, and realize that the cup is down to the dregs.
Rush is a Felon on probation in Florida, He is Criminal minded and a Great Pretender, Pretending to be a Human Being, he is a Scab something that gives off Puss when his many wifes find this out about him. They Leave him, nobody to call a Friend? a prescription for a Broken heart. Check his Post office Box for the mail order Drugs.
Theres' a little thing called a warrant.
Your free speech BS is just that BS.
Phil @ 21:
I completely agree. Rush Limbaugh is just another bloated Jabba spewing hate and anger and using a conservative front to do it. However, Hillary has been getting a huge amount of support from a very unlikely source... Fox (Faux) News. Its pundits have, for a few months now, begun to spin everything in Hillary's direction. Obama has crossover appeal... Hillary does NOT. She's as polarizing as they come. But suddenly, with Obama's surge to the fore, Fox News is trumpeting her like she's the best hope for our nation.
Why?
Because she CAN'T beat McCain. Don't look at the polls now... look at the first ones (ones that have been born out in the primaries, I'd like to point out) back a few months ago. Obama has a strong chance to beat McCain. McCain, even while unpopular with large elements of his own party, still stacks up with about an 8 point difference over Hillary. The Republican machine and the Democratic old guard have, in effect, teamed up to try and deny Obama the victory. The old guard is convinced only politics as usual will win the day, and the Republicans know better, since they've been doing poilitics as usual for 8 years and it's been kind of crappy. Democrats... members of the "people's party"... if the Republicans are vying for Hillary, why are you supporting her?
Oh, and while I'm here... Big Dan (post 18) and Sal (post 193) both need to shut up. Not cause I disagree with your view necessarily... just because you give all intelligent liberals a black eye. Sal: you have a good point, but when you literally say the word "NeoCon" SO MANY TIMES, you sicken me to the point that I don't CARE about your service as a veteran anymore. You sound like a twelve year old calling someone a "douchebag" over and over... "NeoCon, NeoCon, NeoCon..." you seem to cry. And Big Dan: shut the (beep) up. Bush is an idiot; no one's denying it. But he's no Nazi. Calling someone like Bush a Nazi is an insult to the soldiers of World War II and the victims of the Nazi scourge. Like it or not, it's also an undeserved insult to Bush. He's done a lot of things, but he hasn't massacred 6 million people in gas chambers. Get a sense of integrity. Don't let your hate-filled unintelligible dribble besmirch the good name "liberal."
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I think Rush is correct. Someone said they want "equal time." Rush IS "EQUAL TIME."
To the person who said Adolph oops I mean Rush Limbaugh has twenty million viewers. Adolph Hitler had millions of supporters too. Rush Limbaugh is an evil man who represent the worst in people. Any who takes him serious is just as pathetic as he is. By the way he is the real stater of flame wars.
logicalthnker @ 339:
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please keep in mind that Rush is an admitted drug addict !!
logically thinking: Try stating your position on any serious issue . But we'll have to move to an open thread, so we don't go off topic on this one.
If you people cannot see the complete bias of the Drive by Media then I think we are in for very dark period the next 4 or 8 years and I believe we will probably come out a second rate power exactly what the America hating left wants but the un intended consequences is there will be no one to protect them from the government that will emerge and they will be the first ones to be eliminated by a fascist government. I do not have any optimism left and I surly hope I am wrong, but I will tell you this I have not been wrong in my opinions in the left direction brought to us by Alger Heist and his good friends the Gore family who sits on billions from Oil stocks given to them by Ammond Hammer CEO of Occidental Petroleum another Communist leaning friend of the Gores.
When I was a registered Democrat and finally saw through their Lies I use to vote for the weaker Democrat primary candidate, hell I even voted for Jessie Jackson, a man responsible for holding blacks back for 30 years and also and breaking the sexual harassment law signed by another guilty of the same law in which he , Clinton, signed in 1993 with his co-president Hillery. OK lets see if this makes sense.
Mel Reynolds , a former Democrat congressman from Chicago serving a five year federal sentence for fraudulent loan and CAMPAIGN- FINANCE LAWS AND SERVING A 30 MONTH SENTENCE FOR STATUTORY RAPE OF A 16 YEAR OLD CAMPAIGN VOLUNTEER
was pardoned by a disgraced President, Clinton, who had sex with a
a non payed subordinate on the behest of a disgraced Jessie Jackson supposedly a clergyman, who had a sexual affair with his subordinate, one Kim Stanford, a staffer for the Rainbow/ PUSH also committing adultery and breaking the sexual Harassment law and never even charged for the crime and then gave Mel Reynolds a job with the Rainbow/Push Coalition has YOUTH COUNCILOR.
( Free Republic)
Did not the Democrats say they were the Party of ethics when we put them in power in 2006 . These lies is why I am now a Republican conservative and they are not doing well because they are not following the conservative values but are falling to the left , we are doomed when the left takes complete control in November.
Sure do see alot of folks upset on this page about something that's "not working."
If you're so sure Operation Chaos is not working, what are you all so upset about?
One thing I've sure noticed about all you liberal, open-minded folks ... you're completely open-minded as long as everyone agrees with your opinion. Too bad you're so opinionated.
Good luck in the general!
"[This just in from Sitemonitor-Deleted. Off topic]"
Real cute mockery there, monitor. They pay you to wise off, do they?
Very well, answer me this. Why did you not leave the part where I said how the NY TIMES, et al, will jump McCain's case once the Dem nominee is official. How on earth was THAT off topic?
the stuff posted here about rush is the typical daily cos, huffington post, air america smears. no thruth, but alot of name calling. i am sure this will get deleted because how dare anyone tell these sites they should not be calling people names. i have yet to call anyone a name, but i have been attacted by the site monitor, and other people on this site. thank you one and all for proving my points. i could not have done it better.
Why is it all you people can do is make personal attacks? And how come none of you mention things the Democrats have done? We are all in this together, and you people are acting like little kids. Can you honestly say Obama would be the best candidate for President after the things we have heard about him? I don't hear you calling him un-American! What makes you think that Rush Limbaugh will be gone in the next four years? What happened to "Freedom of Speech?" I guess if you like what is being said, it is ok. If you don't like what is being said, it is not ok.
Liberal/democrat/non-Rush listener: Votes for bureaucrats and career-politicians and against democracy (how ironic!) and capitalism because they are controlled by peer-pressure and need to be "popular" and are unable to be successful in this environment.
Rush listener: Votes for people who support liberty, freedom, capitalism, and limited government (limited crooks impacting our lives).
Republicans in Indiana did not vote for Hillary Clinton by the same margins as Democrats!! These were primaries, people! You can only choose from candidates in your OWN party to determine who gets party nomination! Unless not registered as such, Republicans cannot vote for any democratic presidential candidates -- they aren't even on the ballot a Republican gets to vote on!!
The media controls who we like and who we dislike. There are so many sheep that are led by nuts like Rush. Remember Hitler? Rush and Hanity are pure Racisit! With large egos, they should be feared because they are capable of controlling the masses. Watch them.
logicalthnker @ 370:
You've proved nothing. Your overwhelming generalization by calling everyone hear "You People" just shows that you are a hypocrite. The vast majority of people have not attacked you by calling you names.
I'm sure Dems will get absolutely fantastic treatment over at Red State or Poli Pundit.
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Rush is and idiot who thinks people realy listen to his show what power trip he has .Anyone that listens to rush limbaugh rave about how smart republicans are and how dumb the democrats are is and idot and needs to get a life. when im driving in my truck i listen to country music something that would be normal.
do not under estimate rush and the amount of republicans that are doing just as he said.In some cities and state their is little or no crossing the party lines for Hillary as an attempt in dirty tricks. However there are areas where there is a great deal of effort in this little game.
The reason for the variation seems to stem from the leadership or each local republican party.
One key element that should be discussed here is why would they do this. The answer is simple. Hilary is easy to beat.Bill brought in NAFTA and the Chinese agreement as well. Bill further deregulated the banks so that the real estate could end up in the stock exchange.Bill was impeached for lying under oath.To put Hilary in would be a third time for Bill and he has all this baggage behind him.The trucks now coming in from Mexico was started under Bill and changed under Bush to be more destructive to the American economy.Hilary has lied a couple times in front of the camera's and caught at it .She cannot win and the republicans want here as the nominee for the democrats. Even if she is not the nominee , she hurts the party by continuing the primary.
mudshark @ 375:
Sorry but I do not know what you are talking about, but I do see that you are one of the people who have called me names. Typical liberal.
I find this too funny... many eyerolls here. We have two democrats running for the highest position in the USA.. and everything seems to think either one has some sort of experience to outrun the other.. in actuality republican's are laughing at the democrats... and its making the republican's look stronger for it. Hillary has flip flop on issues just like Obama, but who really truly runs the USA - Congress - and what is the representation of congress - Democrats. So if you see the USA slippin down the tubes.. think about it... do they really hear us?
Oh and the racisit Obama and his America hating wife is a better candidate?
Why are you democrats always so bitter, hateful, name callers? Try and be positive sometime.
(I had a dream.)
That the Obama limozine was run over by an eighteen wheeler and that all pasengers were killed.
That Hillory clinton stood on her pedistol waiving her bible and claiming that god has decreed that Hillary would be president of the United states of America.
logicalthnker Says: So you call rush names and then say your response is not foul mouthed? I have not called anyone names, I just pointed out your name calling. My generalizations about libs is pretty right on. you do not like to be questioned, or disagreed with. there is no debating a lib, just agreeing or you get called names.
Logical, if you go back and read my posts you will see that I didn't call anyone names. Not Rush, not you, not anyone. I took issue with your silly name-calling when, in the same breath, you were berating people for name-calling. Apparently the Site Monitor feels the same way I do!! LOL!! And btw, I am not a "Lib". You have me confused with someone else.
Limp burger is a KNOWN inciter of terrorism. Numerous times he has called for riots in Denver this summer.
logicalthnker @ 378:
You're making a fool of yourself now.
But don't stop on my account, feel free. Your doing a great job.
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I don't know how Rush can all himself a christian when he calls people names and makes fun of people. We need to sign a petition to get him off the air because he is no better than Rev. Wright. What he is trying to do is unethical and immoral. I will not buy any products that sponsor him.
Let's keep the race going! It obliterated McCain from any race! Who is McCain? He's not even in it!
Dems 2008!
Im a democrat.....and im disgusted with you people ripping McCain....the man can't lift his left arm because he was brutilized by a bayonette...don't agree with his politics....fine....but if you don't love the man, the soldier, the hero....then you are below the bottom of my toaster. Barack is fabulous....celebrate him....stop this crap because great american's are great american's and both are.....and i F-ing dare anyone to respond!!!!!
Thank you 1SG Hoffman for your serves, and welcome home.
Ray Perry @ 382:
I dunno .. what if Operation Dickwad Limbaugh Chaos gave Clinton a 1% - 5% lead in Indiana
WRONG , at least in Indiana , it appears that IF Clinton wins Indiana it is going to be so close that the difference according to exit polling will be Pig Limbaugh's operation chaos and the Republican vote in a Dem primary , the networks as of this minute will not call Indiana either way , the margin right now means Limbaugh's bunch of Nazis did indeed make the difference in Indiana , I have heard two commentators on two different net works point this out in the last hour .Here in Washington state we have to preregister as Repug or Dem and can only vote in the primary of the party we chose so this shit can't go on .
Good bye Clinton !
As for Limbaugh's influence, we'll have to wait until the convention in Denver, where he has commanded his dittohead army to revolt.
Screw the World! Riot in Denver!
If blood is spilled in Denver, it's on Limbuagh's hands.
In no way was it a failure. Any contest decided by a few thousand votes matters and certainly makes a difference. I'm old enough to remember when Democrats decided that open primaries would be a good idea, and might attract Republicans to vote Democratic in the fall. It never happened. It's about time we quit that idea.
Another viewpoint (with which I agree) says Clinton benefitted significantly from mischievious Republican voting.
dennis @ 20:
why would they lie?
HELP: I don't understand the significance of the Obama/McCain numbers.
"They believe Obama is more likely to beat McCain." Well... wouldn't that be why saboteurs would vote for Hillary?
what does that prove?
I gota side with Rico on this. Now i will admit to an Obama bias, but I don't imagine that there were such a high number of republicans who crossed over to vote for Hillary out of excitement her campaign. If Hillary took 52% the 11% of the total vote that was crossover, that's still over 68,000 votes. If even we give rush only credit for 30% of those 68,000 votes, that's still 21,475 votes.
As of right now Hillary leads by 22019...
It truly pains me to give rush credit, but he is affecting the outcome. Without those 30% she is only up by 544 votes!
Howard Dean was right on the money when he said that by early June one of the candidates needs to throw in the hat and throw their support behind the other. For the sake of not having a third bush candidacy we need to end this and heal the party.
GOD, that music is annoying! It doesn't add drama. It adds cacophony.
Phil @ 21:
I'm not so sure that I would believe that there are "zero Republicans" who like Hillary. At the moment, it looks like she could be planning some type of "Holy Joe," and go independent, then try to see what kind of people she can pull her way in order to get the presidency in her way. Hey, who knows? I wouldn't put it past her. It worked for "Holy Joe." Look where HE is!
I'm a huge KO fan, but he and Nora were completely confused on this - not making any sense at all. The data they provided shows that Limbaugh accomplished exactly what he meant to do - to get Republicans who planned to vote for McCain in the general to vote for Hillary in the primary.
Fortunately it's a moot point as it looks like we're on the verge of ending this painful primary.
John McCain has got nothing except the goodwill and maverick reputation he built up many years ago. He simply will not stand up under scrutiny, and believe me, he will be scrutinized. He backed into a nomination he had no business winning when his competition self-destructed. He's become such a pandering senile moron and the selling of his soul to the devil has become so complete that it's only a matter of time before he makes Bob Dole look like Dwight D. Eisenhower.
The really stupid one is the author of this article. Mr. Limbaugh is trying to be a voice for the Godly conservatives who are the solid basis for this great nation. People like Mr. Limbaugh are the ones who fight to give liberals the ability to voice their misguided opinions.
Libs skewered again, by El Rusbo and his "few" dittoheads......LOL..LOL. The man has the largest radio show in the the USA... over 600 radio stations carry his program, along with AFRTV. Maybe you confused it with Air America, who can't even pay their bills.
He's (Rush) been on the radio for 30 years? If he didn't have an audience, or people who share his beliefs, lack of ratings would have sent him flying 29 years ago. Secondly, I listen to his show.......you claim he was screaming? I must be deaf. And lastly, if his so-called "Operation Chaos" was effective, wouldn't Hillary have left the race by now?
Dave @ 392:
Godly Conservatives? Misguided opinions?
1st Could you give me the latest explanation as to why we went into Iraq?
2nd Godly? yeah, tell that to all the people in New Orleans, and Baghdad for that matter.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/index.html . tell me why again?
And would you explain to me why this admin has cut back on the med benefits for our soldiers, in particular, the mental health benefits. Far to many are coming home and committing suicide.
And what about our re-enlistment quota, It appears young people aren't so willing to go over to Iraq anymore.Why is that?
And what about this foreclosure thing that's plaquing the country. Now, I realize some people took a shot that shouldn't have, but what about the honest people who were duped? Just throw them out on the streets? And what about the neighbors homes that lost value and are in dire straights because of all this? Just throw them out on the streets?
I could go on and on and on, but what's the point?
I appears to me that some of you folks really don't care, not all, but some.
30 tears of Rush?
30 years of bought and paid for Rush. He would have never lasted this long if it weren't for the deep pocket neo cons who keep him afloat.He's being paid to spread his Un American filth. His(their) agenda is really quite simple really. World Domination.
So here we are in Iraq ,still trying to get that oil. Alot of good it's done us. But then again all wars are fought over natural resources aren't they? But now we've really pissed off the Arabs and the rest of the Muslim world. Thanks Goerge, thanks for screwing up the next 30-50 years. I hope all you folks who were for this war are willing to let your children go and fight it,because there has to be a draft soon to fulfill our Military back to a strong number. Oh, and your grandchildren will be fighting this war too.
Thanks For Nuthin
frickin pea brains.
Yeah, Rush the patriot, He's so patriotic he jumped out because of a boil on his ass. He could have had it fixed and joined up,but nope, Not EL Rushbo. He had better things to do. Like helping the neocon agenda send your kids in his place. Kinda like Cheney and The Preznit(deserter)
First of all- "screaming"??? What has he been listening to? I don't remember screaming. (typical lib-couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it). Second- who cares? I know that the independants and other democrats were crossing lines to screw up the republican side of the election. So... what comes around goes around. Sadly- too many on the left are voting to for 2 people that are not qualified to run for the white house.
Howard Dean has done a good enough job to steal defeat from the jaws of victory. Neither Clinton or Obama can beat McCain. You just keep on drinking the cool aid and following the Pied Piper of Change.
Obamawho @ 400:
You keep telling yourself that sport. It'll make the victory all that much sweeter when a Dem takes back the White House.
Not to mention all the seats in the Senate and the House. See ya in Nov sport.
How is this any different than Democrats voting for McCain in the Republican Primaries? Rush is just having fun with the liberals - they can't even run a primary - still counting votes in Texas and disenfranchising voters in Florida and Michigan. And they want to run the country in the same incompetent way - No Thanks
ok, so the author of this article says OpChaos had no effect. however, that is at odds with the obama campaign itself. per axelrod:
Exit polls appear to back up Axelrod’s claims. Results of the Indiana exit poll found that that 17 percent of primary voters said they would vote for Republican John McCain over Clinton in the general election. And 41 percent of those voters still cast a vote for Hillary in the primary, according to the Baltimore Sun.
Citing these figures, the Obama campaign sent an e-mail to reporters Tuesday night asserting that 7 percent of the votes in Indiana could be attributed to the “Limbaugh effect.”
and of course john kerry believes that RL wants hillary becasue she would be easy to beat, and OpC did have an effect in IN. completely mischaracterizing the purpose of OpChaos, but noone ever said JK was the bightest bulb:
"Rush Limbaugh was tampering with the primary," Kerry said "If it was not for Republicans taking Democratic ballots, he would have won," he said of Obama.
but, dem folk, the point isnt whether it did or did not effect things. the point you have missed. is that he wants you to THINK it did, whether it did or didnt. or at least get you all, between the 2 sides of you, the hillary (left left part) and the obama part (the take a left at outter mongolia and keep going left part) to be arguing about it. and that appears to be working. you guys will get it someday. you see there is secret decoder ring that you have to buy to understand the radio show, and the transcript is published daily for all the world to see. so its kinda easy to understand, again, IF you have the secret decoder ring. yeah, you all should get one.
Coach @ 402:
And I suppose you think that the GOP has done a great job?
Devalued dollar, Inflation, Gas prices, food prices, unemployment rate is climbing,loss of respect around the world,starting an illegal war in Iraq,with no real plan on how to win.
No Thanks.Time for someone else to give it a try. I certainly don't want to go through another 4 or 8 years of this BS.
This is so laughable! Limbaugh started this Operation Chaos as a joke against the liberal fruit-balls that constantly want to claim he has an army of listeners ready to go out and do his bidding when he never told his audience to go do anything. The accusation was absurd and made obvious that liberals who made such claims, along with their profound contempt displayed for him for merely stating his views publicly, never actually listened to his show. They just listened to some pundit crying foul.
Now he sets up a publicly viewed trap and you lefty wackos fall for it like a rock. Moreover, you can't even claim that I'm making excuses for this because the original setup show was also done live and archived! LMAO!!!!!!!
John @ 405:
I'm glad you find this so funny.
Nevermind all the good people who have fought and died for the right to hold honest and fair elections. Not really funny when you really look at it, is it?
Obviously, my opinion is not going to popular on this page, but yes it is obvious Rush influenced the vote. The guy has 20 million listeners, whether you like it or not that's a lot of people and an awful lot of them are saying they participated in Operation Chaos (with much enthusiam, I might add). Why would they lie so far as exit polls? Well, perhaps they didn't want to get their votes thrown out over the nonsense that has been thrown up about how they should be allowed to vote. Last I checked, it was a secret ballot and we were allowed to vote however we wanted - there should be no litmus test. Let people vote how they see fit. And by the way, guys he's had the show 19 years try to get your facts right.
Lisa @ 407:
Thank You for the clarification on the amount of years. I thought that sounded a bit off. again, thank you.
Liberals/democrats/non-Rush listerners wonder:
Who should be their nominee, Hillary or Obama??
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Rush listeners know:
If white liberals really cared about "minorities", INSTEAD of just USING them as pawns during elections, the liberals would clear the way and Hillary would have quit months ago in order to allow this "clean, articulate" (as Senator Biden described Obama) candidate no hassles at all on the way to defeating McCain, who as they believe is just a third Bush term...
Alas, Hillary (if it wasn't for her husband and her husband's last name) would be a lawyer in Arkansas, instead of selfishly obstructing the first minority candidate from getting the Presidential nomination of one of the two major political parties...
[If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times.Don't Post in all Caps.deleted, Site Monitor]
Well Rush sure must be doing something right to get all of you mean spirited liberals in such un uproar! Just look at the comments! Repent stinking liberals, repent!!! Go Rush Go!
mudshark @ 401:
I'm looking forward to it sport. Can't wait to hear how you spin another stunning loss. Thank god there are still more people who vote that think like me than you sport. You just keep patting yourself on the back and telling yourself Obama's going to win. The only thing that would make it more classic is if Obama picks Hillary as his VP and McCain still blows you out in November. See ya then sport.
If that blowhard had ANY power/influence AT ALL the republican nominee would not be McCain, but Romney.
Limbaugh is SO irrelevant.
His brain and hearing are permanently damaged from drug addiction.
No one in their right mind takes him seriously.
Mudshark Sez:
"You keep telling yourself that sport. It’ll make the victory all that much sweeter when a Dem takes back the White House.
Not to mention all the seats in the Senate and the House. See ya in Nov sport."
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I ask: Is MUDSHARK actually Emilio Estevez restating his lines from "The Breakfast Club"???
Obamawho @ 412:
LOL! hey that's very sporty of you.
Come back in mid Nov ,we'll see, won't we?
Buh Bye.
Site monitor what is the big deal about all caps? You just removed that comment because of its content!
[No, Sue, we do this all of the time, even when it's only the progressives who are commenting. ALL CAPS, and its sibling, All Bold, are considered shouting. And just as if you've been invited into someone's home, shouting here is considered poor etiquette. People will read comments if they are in plain text, trust me. Thank you. Site Monitor]
Bernard M. Russelman @ 414:
say wha????
shhh, don't give me away.
Bernard M. Russelman @ 409:
You've got the greatest information gathering and dispersion tool ever- the internet!- at your fingertips. Feel
freeobliged to link some proof. When you make accusations, you bear the burden of proof.I would just like to vote for anyone I wanted to.
The only way to do this is an open primary.
Disband both parties, let people vote for the person!!!
What an ass this man is.!!!
It's almost worth listening to him just hear what kind of sick, stupid BULLS@^&T IS GOING TO COME OUT OF HIS MOUTH.
he's nothing more than a pill popping conservative.
RUSH>>you think too highly of yourself.
I know the Republicans are really worried about Obama. Fox News is really pushing to Clinton to win because they know that America is not ready to have a woman leading the white house and that McCain would probably beat her. If you watch Fox all they do is bash Obama. They are reaaly nervous and we get calls from Republicans bad mouthing Obama. The perfect ticket would be Obama for pres. Clinton of vice pres. Then we could see the house of cards on the republican side truely collapse.
mudshark please explain to me how you blame Republicans for anything about the economy when the House and Senate have a Dummacrat majority? You are telling us that they are passing every bill that the Republican White House puts in front of them? Wake up and pull your head out of your @$$!
Andy K Jong Il @ 418:
Hey Andy, howzit goin?
crazy day man,crazy day.
Rush Limpbimp is waddling proof that Republicans are pathetic. People, you are following a drug addict that needs oxy and viagra, and steals both because he is too chicken to admit he has serious problems. Why would you want to believe a loser who can't even straighten out his own problems? What really amazes me is that he is allowed a radio show. He couldn't make it on television. I believe he lasted a month, and even that was a month too long. Anyone who believes and listens to this clown should immediately check themselves into the nearest mental health center. Just make sure he wasn't there first. There may not be any oxy left.
Have all you people gone insane? This is exactly what those knuckleheaded right-wingers want and like; to keep everyone talking about this nonsense. Hell no, this jackass has no real power, other than the power that we give him,to effect any type of chaos, except to his own party,by,talking some of the most crazy,stoooopid,mindless crap this side of an insane asylum. Just stop talking about him,no he won't go away,but he will show his true colors(like he always does) when he can get no reaction
Kim Jong II (?!?):
The TRUTH hurts, eh? I stand by my statement that Liberals/democrats only use minorities as pawns in elections.
FYI: I am not obliged to do ANYTHING for you! Who do you think I am, the GOVERNMENT?
YOU can listen to Rush Limbaugh's show and HE will provide the sources.
1) The Great Society destroyed the black family with welfare, taking away the role of the father.
2) Abortions are 33% black unborn babies
3) 90% of black voters have voted for Democrats since the 1930s and FDR. WHY? If things aren't improving, CHANGE (to Republicans (the party that freed the slaves) - NOT Obama!).
You can listen for the many more examples...
Sue @ 421:
Who do you think stops all the bills the dems have put forth?
Granted, the Dems have come up short on delivering. But with a White House ready to veto any and all bills put up by the Dems.I say their both at fault. You see, some of the Dems know they won't win so they try to negotiate, to get something. And they have succeeded in some things. But with Bush ready to veto any and all bills, it makes it very difficult to pass any meaning full legislation.
And as far as a majority in the Senate, I wouldn't call a 51-49 split a very strong majority. Not with that turncoat Lieberman.
Tell me, how does your back teeth look, you obviously have a great view.
Again I say... mean spirited, mean spirited! And we wonder why this country is going down the drain! Can any of you liberals express your opinion in a decent manner? I wish I had the power over you all that Rush does!
Of course Republicans are voting for Hillary.
Who are they gonna vote for - McCain? He already won!
Another failure for Operation Chaos, because while Clinton won the state, she didn't win with enough of a margin to counterbalance Obama's NC win.
In other words, those 46% of Repubs that voted for Obama negated any effect the Operation Chaos plan had.
What new math will the Clintons come up with next?
CNN also noted that a huge number of the Republicans who voted Clinton didn't share her values. A similar question was given in the last batch of southern primaries that confirmed that Clinton got 8% of her vote from Rush's scheme.
There is little doubt that he carried Indiana for her tonight. The good thing is, however, that it won't be enough to create any more chaos, as the race is as good as over.
I'm not sure why people here think OC has been a failure... It has given Clinton some important wind for her sails the last month or two. But it's not just Rush's influence. Listen to Rush or not, every Republican in Indiana knew about OC. That's the media for you.
obsessed @ 47:
He did... And CNN noted this in a different segment as well. This blog entry is a little selective and doesn't have the whole story.
FreedomOfInformationAct @ 27:
I disagree with what they are doing but switching parties and voting in Indiana is not fraud.
It was not a failure in Indiana , it worked and was the difference .
Chaos Schmayos, Repubs for Clinton will soon be R's for Obama. Nobody has the stomach for McSame.
Sorry, but I don't trust the exit poll.
If a Republican is going to act devious to help Clinton win, I would suspect they'd also claim to have voted Obama to confuse people.
Having claimed to have voted Obama, they can say Operation Chaos (or just mischievous Republicans acting alone) had no influence on the outcome of the election, when they in fact did.
Operation Chaos is grotesquely perverse, trenchant cynicism. Every vote cast is the expression of a right won and preserved by the blood and sweat of Americans and our allies for the last 300+ years. Perpetraitors of Operation Chaos should lose their citizenship.
The Indiana exit polls gave me pause although not as much as Texas and Ohio. (Haven't looked at NC yet)
For Indiana
Most Likely to Win in November?
I think we'd usually vote for the person who had best chance to become President.
The difference here isn't as strong in Indiana as the 3/5 primaries but same pattern
Texas:
Ohio:
Indiana:
Some other Indiana results that could lead you to wonder.
It might not be republicans. Some Dems might think "I don't care if they lie or if they are like me." But worth a look.
Honest and Trustworthy?
Share Your Values?
And this could be "Well I won't vote for them but if we get stuck with a Dem this is the one I'd rather have"
Vote for President in November
None of these are proof but you know what they say about walking and talking and voting like a duck. It just might be.
kinda' makes me proud to be a tarheel for a change... from NYtimes on voting in NC:
"Cherie Poucher, the director of the Board of Elections for Wake County, which includes Raleigh, said the only problem encountered so far was the large number of Republicans looking to vote in the Democratic primary. She said election officials were allowing voters who show up as registered Republicans but claim to be Democrats to cast provisional ballots. Their registration status will then be checked, she said, and if they are Republicans, the ballots will be thrown out."
I say yay, throw em' out, and again come November! (snark)
Rush Limbaugh is trying to manipulate democracy! His 'Operation Chaos' was successful to a degree. Not everyone who voted for Hillary was an old lady, as the media wanted to inject. It was his last ditch effort to keep the republican party visible and active. Come November, the GOP will be deader than a doornail. They lost everything and humiliated themselves and massacred the world in the process.
Rush must be proud of a party that has destroyed our economy. Oil they are now predicting to hit $200 a barrel. Be sure to thank republicans for this debacle. They have proven they cannot lead this nation forward. It'll be a cold day in hell when I vote for a republican again.
And of course the FOX headline screams, "Split Decision". Because they want to encourage the chaos idea as well. I didnt even see a mention on the front page of Obama pulling further ahead in every category.
McCain the Liar @ 60:
I’m not defending the republicans or Bush but I do notice that most of the problems in our economy have happened since the democrats took congress. They campaigned in 2006 about reducing high gas prices. What was oil when they took over? $60 or $65 a barrel. It’s almost doubled in the short time they have had control. I remember specifically hearing democrats say while campaigning in 2006 that if elected they would lower gas prices. We should also hold them accountable. I’m sick of both parties making ridiculous promises while campaigning then not taking action after being elected.
Remember this campaign promise by Edwards in 2006. "The work that we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve will get up out of that wheelchair and walk again."
Rob @ 62:
Sorry the Edwards quote was from 2004.
The problems with the economy started the day we started spending 2 Billion dollars a week in Iraq.
Democrats have held a razor-thin majority in both chambers of Congress for only the last year and a half, pretty hard to blame them for the current nation's ills.
The whole Chaos thing is nothing but desperation from a blowhard who sees the writing on the wall. The Republican, neo-con, talk-radio cabal has lost its base... the American people will vote a Democrat into the White House and they can't do a damn thing to stop it (not that they won't try).
So, pop a couple of pills, Rush... we'll wake you up after the election.
This entry is simply unfounded. The margin in Indiana was so slim that Rush could easily have had an effect. All he needed to do was to get 20,000 dittoheads to vote Clinton. Nora O'Donnell's conclusions were specious.
Put his ass in jail now; for illegally attempting to influence an election. Operation Chaos? WTF? You think this is some sort of a joke? Prosecute this un American bastard now.
Obama Campaign: The Limbaugh Effect Is Real [Byron York]
As I write up the Obama victory event here in Raleigh tonight, I notice there's a new proponent of "the Limbaugh effect." It's not coming from Operation Chaos headquarters but from the Obama campaign. Tonight I've gotten two emails from the campaign suggesting that the Limbaugh effect was in play in Indiana. The most recent email, a few minutes ago, was headlined "The Limbaugh Effect in Indiana = 7%" noting:
According to the latest exit polling data, 17% of voters in the Indiana primary today said they would vote for John McCain in a Clinton/McCain matchup.
41% of that number is constituted by people who voted Clinton in the primary but also indicated they will vote for McCain in the general election.
That comes out to just under 7% of the primary electorate the number that may be attributed to a “Limbaugh Effect.”
Exit polls are skewed folks. Remember Rush told his minions to lie to the exit pollsters and that is exactly what they are doing. Operation Chaos is working and Hillary Clinton may just be sitting in the White House next January with Rush Limbaugh as her top strategist! GO RUSH!!! GO HILLARY!!! You two were made for each other!!!
rush may have single handedly (with the help hundreds of local radio stations across the country who fill our airwaves with his lies and whining excuses for the GOP) kept clinton in the race and from losing in indiana. the other poll numbers are significant.
one of the biggest ever political blunders has been Americans ignoring the importance of the GOP coordinated talk radio and its trickle-up domination of American media and politics.
no other medium allows the same levels of uncontested repetition to so many people, many of them with no other alternative for current events on radio because rush promoters bought up all the radio stations after reagan killed the FairnessDoctrine.
maybe now progressives will realize who's pouring the kool aid and who's been hitting their candidates and causes with an invisible 2x4 and stop getting so exited about the secondary players, like fox TV and the lazy celebrity talking heads who feed off the talk radio talking points and framing, prechewed and ready to digest.
dennis @ 68:
It’s obvious that Limbaugh had an effect. It’s also obvious that the MSNBC gang were insulting viewers with their bias distorting what was really happening.
Sue @ 427:
You should perhaps take a look within yourself Sue. Your the one with the head up your @$$ comment.
Oh, That's right, you can't see that can you?
When in Rome mudshark!
Mudshark says:
"Granted, the Dems have come up short on delivering."
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Rush listeners know:
For liberals/democrats, it's style over substance.
For liberals/democrats, it's not results, it's their good intentions...
Anything these libs say here, Rush (and I) have an appropriate response!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!
hehehehehe, see ya'll in Nov,hehehehehehe.
We will see mudshark, won't we?! HEE HEE HA HA
one last thing before I go.
Ask yourself. Which party has had a larger turnout in all of these primaries ?
And Who is raising the most amount of money? After all, the one who raises the most amount of money, generally wins. right?
LOL, some of you folks are a riot,ooppss, El Rushbo called for one of those too didn't he? hehehehe, yer killin me.
Mud:
It was Roseanne (Barr) who called for riots in Denver at the "peaceful, tolerant" democrat
convention this upcoming August. She did it on Air America (!?!), which maybe 10 people heard, so it will be called a "brawl", not a riot....!
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