Tweety swipes at Limbaugh: "How many dittoheads does it take to change a primary?"
By SilentPatriot Monday May 05, 2008 8:45am
Yesterday on Hardball, Chris Matthews went after Rush Limbaugh's so-called "Operation Chaos" -- the right-wing pill addict blowhard talk-show host's plan to prolong the Democratic primary fight by urging his brainless listeners to vote in open primaries-- and whether it's actually having any effect.
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It's doesn't surprise me that Rush Limbaugh and his dopey listeners are stooping to such levels. They're desperate, after all, considering their party's nominee is promising to extend the policies of the most unpopular President in history...a President they have championed all along. The thought of the conservative beast dying terrifies them. And what better way to prevent that than making a mockery of American democracy and sabotaging the other party? It makes perfect sense in their twisted, little minds.
Unfortunately for them, whoever emerges as the Democratic nominee will mop the floor with John McCain.
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Oh please, Any Republican worth his salt, would never hold his nose and vote for a Demoncrat. Switching parties for these guys is a life changing event. Many Republicans switched because they have lost faith in their party. Record numbers of new voters and Independants have the Republicans shaking in their snakeskin boots.
Tweety and Limpballs in the same thread. This day is not starting out well.
I can't even figure out why Chris brought up this subject and gave Rush any air time at all. What was the point? Maybe some people are Rush zombies, but those people are beyond help anyway.
Best advertisement i have ever seen on C&L. And it relates to this post.
Rush Limbaugh is a right-wing version of Rev. Wright. He is basically a political person who has glommed onto "entertainment" as a front for his manipulations and Wright is basically a political person who uses a church. Limbaugh is every bit as inflammatory - imagine if Rev. Wright had told people to infiltrate the other party's primary to try to influence the outcome- the media would be running it nonstop.
Pedophile Rush and all the other right wing asshats prefer Hillary over Obama....period. They know that Hillary and her enormous negative baggage, will be easier to defeat. Helping Hillary Lieberman is no accident.
If your sitting around waiting for Conservatives to change good luck.
L.A. Confidential @ 7:
No, i think that should read, "If your sitting around waiting for Conservatives to change seek professional help."
Why oh why is this thread even up. Can't we just ignore the anal cyst suffering oxy/viagra popping reacist d*ckhead?
Obama is the upstart. He has the popular support, which means he's toast. They (the TRUE Dem elitists) will push him out after the media circus called the primaries. Then the Dems are left with Hillary. The repugnicunts can attack her at will for months. Worst case scenario? She gets elected and pretty much continues conservative policies and we get four more years of Clinton bashing.
They're not "stooping" to this. This IS their level.
I feel like a scene out of "Good Fellas" when I say about Russ and his "dopey listeners": Dopey, how? Russ is a tactician on this..no need for an end result, the motive is extending the primary race and he has, quantifiably. But it is also giving his listeners something to do now that they've coalesced around "Lil Mac".
I wish that Democrats..and I know you're out there.. had the benefit of ten unabated years on major national am radio.
Left&Left @ 6:
Yep and they know that if Hillary should win, things would stay the same more than they would change if Obama wins.
xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 8:
Depressed? Tired of waiting for Conservatives to "get it"?
Our special three step program can help.
What I don't get is how the electoral system is so messed up that methods like this could work.
pissed off patricia @ 12:
Bill was the best thing for them. He gave them their start. With their "power" tanking a resurgence of Bill Clinton in the news will bring back their listeners.
They are just nostalgic for their glory days and want them back!
You can see what I have to say about this turd here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-YV6NSJPaQ
Republican On Line Living Manual
http://tinyurl.com/6y7gf3
P.D. @ 1:
The Republicans have lost 20% of their members. The Republicans did a lot of redistricting. Most of their districts had many a 5% majority. They are going to receive a bad bad spanking in November. The Democrats are going to have a super majority in both houses of Congress plus the Presidency. The only question in my mind is whether or not the Democrats are going to play to the center and do nothing. If they start talking about the spirit of bipartisanship then we know that they are headed down that route.
It's all subterfuge for when they steal it.
I saw this whole show. In addition, Tweety took some pretty hard swipes at McCain for his "oil" statements. You cannot get too excited by Tweety, he more or less changes his views, not by the day but by the minute.
emphasa @ 14:
You have to agree with the analysts on the clip - it's probably not having any effect.
This is all about Limbaugh feeling relevant or clever.
Well check in later. There is a show at the convention center today, where vendors are going to talk about green concrete, green automobile fuel, green chemicals, green toxics, probably green smart bombs, green this, green that.
As seen on TV!
you see that youthful, thin photo of that asshole?
I want to see Bush and his cronies held resposible for all of their sins, Is that to much to ask?
Unless of course the election is stolen again.. lets be glad DIEBOLD Is running the voting again.
P.D. @ 24:
No, don't waste your entire life agonizing over something that is not going to happen though.
As with all things "conservative", the news reports of the effects of Operation Chaos are greatly exaggerated. I would be shocked if enough lazy, stupid Republicans got off their butts to vote in the Dem primary to actually affect the outcome. It's all just example of the MSM lapping up anything the Republicans feed them.
As for whether of not it is sabotaging the process, Kos suggested the same thing in the open Michigan primary when the Dems didn't run a full slate of candidates, in order to prolong the McCain-Romney race. We should blame Kos, then, because Limbaugh has never had an original thought in his life.
emphasa @ 14:
Bad wiring perfomed by KBR subcontractors.
Oh, electoral process!
My bad.
BoMbS
John Bolton: US should bomb Iranian camps
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1931520/John-Bolton-US-should-bomb-Irani...
Jon @ 25:
That is a real concern, but it's unlikely that exit polls can be rigged. They can only skew it a small amount so it's not too blatant.
A bigger problem is probably from excluding voters - ID laws, limiting voting machines, etc. We'll also get all kind of "get the bigot vote out" ballot issues, such as documentation for immigrants and gay adoption.
Let's just hope the Dems are wise to the games this time.
Tweety took a swipe at pedo-Rush because Tweety is a Weiner-Savage fan.
Was glad to witness Matthews take a swipe at the drug addict Limbaugh and his "dopey listeners". Although I sure wish Matthews would have taken a swipe at McSame when Matthews had him on for an hour during his college tour. Matthews gave McCane ample opportunity to repeat numerous unsubstantiated claims about Iran.
This is journalism? Pathetic!
Hey Matthews are you going to continue to allow these unsubstantiated claims to continue to be repeated?
Kathleen @ 32:
It's brainwashing, diversion, manipulation.
I mean come on anyone can see that can't they?
...whoever emerges as the Democratic nominee will mop the floor with John McCain.
Oh, how I wish. The Repugs will pull out all the stops in this election, I'm afraid. We'll be wishing for the kinder, gentler likes of Lee Atwater and Karl Rove. Assuming Obama is the nominee, they'll be pushing all the racist, xenophobic, patriotic buttons they can. It will be very ugly. Yes, most polls say people don't like this. But it works. Jim, the Waco Kid, had it right:
What did you expect? "Welcome sonny?," "Make yourself at home?," "Marry my daughter?" You've got to remember, that these are just simple farmers, these are people of the land, the common clay of the new west. You know . . . morons.
What I don't get is why Pill-Boy isn't being charged with a felony / election tampering ... same for Laura Ingraham, who suggested her listeners call in and flood a help line.
This may not involve guns and bombs, but it's terrorism. It's homegrown. And it's being ignored.
this, from the same guy who "owes" Tom Delay big time.
wait a few minutes and he'll smear Obama and the rest of the Democratic leadership.
Tweety the crazy putz.
Anyone who encourages voters to cheat in our democratic process should be tried for treason along with the stupid dittohead that follows his advice.
Ed in NJ @ 27:
You under estimate the ignorance of the average Limbaugh listener.
The problem with this from Clinton's point of view is that if she prevails in Indiana, this delegitimizes her win. If she wins by a small margin, it could easily be said that it was the ditto-heads who were responsible. That makes it awfullky hard for her to argue to the superdelegates that this proves anything about her electability, since these are votes that will certainly go to McCain in November.
Obama will defeat McCain by double digit numbers in the general election. The days of Republican backed corporate fascism have alienated more Americans in more ways than Rush's zombie army is capable of understanding. McCain is a horrible candidate. All of his two-faced lies and self-reinventions, his destructive war-mongering, his economic isolation and ignorance, his hiding and living off his wife's income, his sucking-up to Bush Republicans and evangelicals, and his factual dementia and challenges of memory will expose his innumerable ethical, moral and intellectual deficiencies. John McCain on the campaign trail "every day" trying to explain and make sense of the speech he gave yesterday or the day before or last week will be an exercise in self-exposure and self-destruction. Democrats will only have to allow John Sidney McCain, III to be himself, and even Bush Republicans will be embarrassed by what they see.
If you Google "Worst President" guess who you get ... yep ... we all need to visit google and hit this site so that it stays right at the top of the list.
Don't get too excited about this, if Chris gets negative feedback from Rush listeners, he'll be praising Rush before you know it.
pissed off patricia @ 42:
flip -
"Unfortunately for them, whoever emerges as the Democratic nominee will mop the floor with John McCain."
I wouldn't be so cocky. Never, ever underestimate the absolute treachery of the Republican party and the ignorance of the American voting public.
CNN is or was showing a live speech McCain was giving about federal judges. Gosh, he's a horrible speaker or I should say he's a horrible teleprompter reader. Just so bland and emotionless. I tried to listen but I found myself getting very sleepy. If you're having trouble falling asleep at night, just play a tape of one of his speeches.
♠Bangkok-Bob♠ @ 43:
flop
Not all states have open primaries; in Pennsylvania you had to change your party membership a month before, I believe. Here in Oklahoma, only democrats can vote in our primaries, no independents and no republicans. So Rush had no effect here in conservative Oklahoma; and this state went 55% for Clinton and 30% for obama. so fuck rush and chris M
♠Bangkok-Bob♠ @ 41:
Just tossed my ten hits into the ring.
What was the pundit's term?
I remember: 'low information voters'.
Then you have the high information voters, but they are very dangerous.
And then you have the 1% who own the country.
solid @ 44:
I have the same feeling..... and we collectively need to do whatever it takes to either fight back against the treachery and lies AND attempt to educate those ignorant voters.
(I started a few months ago by sending e-mails and talking to my Repugnican family members)
douglas in oklahoma @ 47:
I actually see a problem with this too. How many Independents were there? How many would have voted for Obama?
Lets see if Hillary wins Indiana today,and by how much, and if she mentions the 1.5 million voters purged from the list from the AA districts.
McCain is making a big speech on Federal Judges. Oh great, more right-wing nut jobs to take even more of our freedoms away.
Now just why did Chris Matthews allow Senator McSame to get away with repeating unsubstantiated claims about Iran during Matthews interview of McSame during the Hardball college tour?
Here is the transcript.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24148308/
"MATTHEWS: Do we have to defeat all the people in that country who are interested in advancing Iranian influence before we can leave?
MCCAIN: I don’t think so. I think we have to establish an environment of security—political, economic and military—so that people can lead their normal lives. I think there’s going to be upheaval and ethnic and sectarian violence for a long time in that region. We see now the Iranian trying to reassert an age-old Persian ambition, as you know...
MATTHEWS: Yes.
MCCAIN: ... to increase their influence, particularly in southern Iraq, and they’ve had some success there. So I think there’s going to be violence and I think there’s going to be difficulties. But I think we’ve got to reach a point where the Iraqi military and law enforcement are able to carry out those responsibilities, and not the Americans being on the front line.
That’s happening in Mosul as we speak, and we’re doing pretty well. And in full disclosure, in frankness and candor, straight talk, the Maliki movement to Basra had a very big down side to it because, you know, we saw a thousand police and military desert their posts. But the rest of the military did a pretty good job, did a pretty good job. We did secure the port of the Basra. Maybe I’m digging for the pony here, but...
MATTHEWS: Yes, I’m just wondering how long it takes to get there.
MCCAIN: Well, I think that right now, the priority should be Mosul, which is one of the last outposts of al Qaida. There’s a saying that people have that al Qaida can’t succeed without having control of Baghdad, and they can’t survive without Mosul. So this fight’s going to take a couple months. As you know, it’s block by block...
MATTHEWS: Yes."
#Just many times can Matthews role over and say "yes" when false claims by McSame are repeated? It appeared to be quite a few. If Hillary ever accepts Matthews challenge asking her to come on his program. It will be interesting to witness Mr. Hardball's (when it suits his purpose) demeanor and tone with Clinton.
Hardball...right!
Hey Matthews
Looks and sounds like saggy old soffballs to me.
You would think, wouldn't you? Unfortunately, NEVER underestiamte the stupidity of American voters! Despite all the shit going on in the world and within our own country, what's been the number one issues??? Obama's pastor and whether or not Obama will wear a flag lapel pin! Yes, it does not bode well for the future this nation!
if tweety had any gonads he would have done this the day after texas and ohio primaries
Anthony @ 39:
26% of voters have been removed from the voter lists in Indiana. An abnormally large percentage of which are African American. Gary Indiana had almost 60% of its voters removed from the list. Rush is just the big mouth adding fuel to the fire. Operation Chaos is more organized than what you think. If Clinton wins Indiana; it is going to cause chaos in the Democratic Party. Don't kid yourself; Operation Chaos is a CIA style black-op.
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/
fastfeat @ 48:
Liberal activism at it's finest.
You can make a difference. Yes, you can.
Don't be fooled by these weed-dicks,they are just getting you ready for, Gee how could the polls have been so far off, or Gee it was the middle left changed their minds at the last min or Gee I guess the country was not ready to have a black potus, All different words for "WE stole the election,again! Don't believe it ,Don't stand for it! Tell them we are watching for it, write,call,e-mail,snail mail,yell, WE see you ,you fuckers and we will not sit still for this crap any longer! Say it loud, say it proud!......CEO
Objections are always tolerated by those in power as long as the objections do not rise to the level of action.
Not to be cynical, but I'll believe all of this when the Democratic Party can demonstrate they are responsible enough not to destroy their own party first.
The Democrats don't have a good track record of winning the White House when they should in the last 40 years.
Vote to make the United States the best country ever, not to satisfy the RL of the world.
The Matthews Entity let his "liberal" out for a walk did he? Don't worry, within days he'll revert to villager/McCain lickspittle.
dennis @ 57:
P.D. @ 1:
You're making a false assumption.
You don't have to change you voter registration in many states, to vote in the opposition primary.
I know Republicans here in Texas that did vote for Hillary in the primary.
Crooks & Liars Can Only
Win Elections if They Cheat
But the people are on to all of them.
They are Voting in Massive Numbers.
What we are seeing is unprecedented.
This race would have been over by now If we had an honest media.
Follow the money by Top Geographic Donation Totals....
McCain = NEW YORK and WASHINGTON, DC
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/geog.asp?id=N00006424&cycle=2008
Hillary = fNEW YORK and WASHINGTON, DC
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/geog.asp?id=N00000019&cycle=2008
I wish I felt as confident as the poster who said "the dem nominee will mop the floor with McSame".......if you don't believe the "stealing of the election" is well underway, just listen to polls quoted saying the dem nominee and McSame are neck and neck. That is just total BS. Just like in 04, the media is trying to make us believe this is a close race. Anyone paying attention knows it's not. There are alot of idiots out there, but by and large people are dissatisfied with the current conditions. They want change. The "neck and neck" line is the set up for stealing another election.
May the rest of the world have mercy on us.
Remember that Rush couldn't even get his listeners to vote for his preferred Republican candidates - especially when it came down to Romney vs. McCain. He was constantly extolling Mitt's virtues and panning McCain. All the right wing radio nuts were in the Romney camp. And that's having dittoheads vote for the candidate that was actually in their party. If he can't get Romney nominated, why do you think he'd have any pull now?
Limpballs, Nov 8, 2006:
So in Nov 2008, is Blimpers going to quit again? I guess it depends if Obama wins. If he does, Rush will have an excuse to come up with four years of racist "satire" to feed his inbred nation.
(I'm surprised Matthews made room in for this skit between Wright stories. )
it is pretty simple, 'i get an oxy' rush limbaugh is attempting to subvert democracy. the msm, like the 3 over-exposed guests on hardball, are afraid of limbaugh, and are afraid to label his actions correctly. limbaugh, if he could get away with it, would compromise/infect/disease/distort/etc the entire democratic process if he could. seriously, limbaugh HATES the will of the will people.
like ronald reagan, and the whole conservative movement, they distrust and dislike democracy, they view the 'will of the people' as a danger on the horizon to be feared. Reagan said so, point blank.
I was thinking the same thing #66,
They tell us it's neck and neck yet before the Wright thing Obama led Mc Senile 55% to 38% +/- Then they turn around and say after that Wright had no effect on Obama.
I call bullshit on the polls and the Corporate media
Samson at 69.
Well said.
Considering his appetite for prescription drugs, who's dopier, rash limpballs or his dittoheads?
I come from a town that could be called "military cental" in Florida. I'm from the Panhandle where you are either active military, retired military or a preacher. I haven't been able to find one person that says they will vote for McCain. The neck and neck line from the MSM is total fabrication. This worked for them in 04. In this same town, there were many people against Bush, people voting in record numbers.....still Bush won. BS and here we go again
We know all the good old boys, with their blogs and talk shows are scared crapless of Hillary Clinton, they just can't have a WOMAN beat a man even if he is a piece of goodness knows what like obama, now we have the REPUBLICAN REVVING UP THE ATTACKS AGAIN. That's cause they know as the polls continue to show obama has a snowballs chance in the nether regions against McCain and they want him as the candidate. CAUSE HILLARY WOULD BEAT MCCAIN STANDING STILL.
The problem with rash limpball's campaign is they don't even have to do anything but talk about it, and conspiracists in our own party will take it the rest of the way to delegitimze any successes of the opposition.
Bush lost the last 2 elections people. Florida and Ohio. Are you so sure that can't happen again? The vote coun't won't match the exit polls, they will make up some media theme for why that is: values voters, fear of Iran, or some other BS. From past experience and current events you can see that the republicans are cheating: voter disenfranchisement, ID law in Indiana, RNC guys bragging about illegal voter caging. We will kick McCain's ass, just like Kerry beat Dubya, but you see who sits in the White House.
No one will do anything about it.
McCain will help with 'wiping the floor', in that with his loose tongue and his subsequent 'clarifications' should really make people pause when thinking on voting for him. It's an easy, and logical, leap to go from his numerous loose tongued statements on important issues to perhaps he would be 'loose' with his actions/decisions as Prez? With words he can conveniently go back and 'clarify' things but with actions he won't have that chance. If he decides to bomb Iran and it turns out he shouldn't have he won't be able to 'clarify' that sort of action. Oops wont cut it. As Prez he'll have to get it right the first time. considering what a clod Bush is and how he many times 'under' considered issues that he made life/death decisions on, all Americans should certainly demand more from the next Prez. Obama is that sort of serious person, who will, I'm confident, be able to make the serious considerations about the serious issues he'll be facing. Not so sure about McCain.
Samson- @ 69:
I thought exercising one's right to vote WAS the ultimate form of democracy, Samson. Please tell me you're not against that.
By this time tomorrow we all shall know if obama was able to beat Hillary Clinton or not. And if he loses, the obama apologists will blame the Clintons, the press, anyone but --- obama and the rev Wright----and Florida and Michigan are still out there --- millions of votes for Hillary, just waiting for a little respect from their democratic party.
Crooks and Liars who have
hundreds of thousands of watts to
spew hate and lies is not Democracy.
I still say to be fair, lets take Hillarys name off the ballot in the rest of the primary states and put a big ol' 'uncommitted' in it's place.
And not allow her to campaign in those states either...Fair is fair
dennis @ 78:
that is hannity-level spin dennis. take that as a compliment.
anyhoo...
ronald reagan:
"a democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. it can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largesse out of the public treasury. from that moment on the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the treasury with the result that democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy, always to be followed by a dictatorship."
the conservative "hero", ladies and gents, warning us that if we adhere to democratic principles, ie, will of the people, that america is in danger of becoming a dictatorship.
thus, for anti-democratic bottom dwellers, like oxy-man-rush, any subversion of democracy is to be rewarded and encouraged. this is not the will of the people, this is the swill of the puppet masters. and, true to their embarrassing name, the ditto-heads march in lock-step at the tune of the pied pipers meth pipe
Sorry to inform you,that Rush knows McGoo and Repugs are finished for this 8 year term.They rush don't want Obama to win but Hillary is part of the Bush frat club.Can't you guys see the plot--Get rid of Obama anyone but him or Ron Paul.
Notice the Chosen One's Media are also trying hard to bomb Obama out of the race?
I really would like Obama to let Hillary have it--between..... Even if he gets elected,he will go as JFK did. USA has the CIA for such operations.
Everything is a big, fucking joke to Limbaugh and his listeners. This is a all just a tussle over a metaphorical football to these arrested development goons where winning is the only thing that matters.
Nice thing about being a con? You can fuck everything up, you can lose your shirt, you can fail in your selfish, myopic causes; you can do everything you can to monkeyfuck the system in pursuit of I Got Mine, Now Get The Fuck Out Of My Way and when you fall flat on your ass, some damned liberal will be willing to help should you have the occasion to ask.
lipstickhottie @ 73:
Half of my family works or are retired from Wright Patterson Air Force Base. Engineers, etc. All were against the invasion of Iraq all against the Bush administration.
Marge @ 74:
Hey man hater,
I notice you never capitalize Obama's name. I don't take offense because POLLS clearly show that Hillary's recent messages are appealing to ignorant, uneducated, white folk....like you.
Floridiot @ 81:
yes florida has been very helpful in decideing elections , let jeb bush and catfish harris help in fucking up another election, cant wait for florida to fuck us again!
Left&Left @ 85:
Marge is sorta...shrill, don't you think?
;)
Limbaugh was exposed as a desperate, ignorant, lying, democracy-hater the second he admitted ON AIR that he was relieved the Democrats regained a majority because he wouldn't have to carry water for the Bush administration any more. That was clearly an admission that he will do or say anything to put party (andhis own self interests) ahead of facts, reality, truth and what is best for America.
And then the ultimate hypocrisy is that in the next breath he went right back to being the water carrier.
pissed off patricia @ 3:
Dr. Biitter Hussein (Mission Accomplished) Matt @ 31:
Tweety is covering this because Rush beat Tweety out as the Most Influential Political Pundits in America, according to the Telegraph UK.
Left&Left @ 85:
carefull there sonny your part of the reason im voteing for clinton! and im sure youve helped others decide , thanks!
Left&Left:
It's really not worth the energy it takes to type a response to "Marge".
Left&Left @ 85:
i read that post several times and i am still trying to make heads or tails of it...
"they just can't have a WOMAN beat a man even if he is a piece of goodness knows what like obama"
huh?
I read this part "It’s doesn’t surprise me that Rush Limbaugh and his dopey listeners are stooping to such levels. They’re desperate, after all, considering their party’s nominee is promising to extend the policies of the most unpopular President in history…"
And I swear to God for a second or 2 I thought you were referring to Clinton (who they ARE pushing rather hard).
You were talking about McCain, right? Right?
Bonkers Hussein @ 87:
The thing wrong about Marge’s assertion is that they are telling these ditto heads to vote for Hill so that the process drags on. Marge is so blinded by her man hating sex bias that she can’t think straight. She also cannot grasp that people may not be voting for Hill because they just do not like her. No, it has to be because Hill is a woman. Well Marge, Hill is more of a man than the Republican she would beat if she was going to win the Democratic nomination. Poor Marge. ;)
tyree @ 86:
yes florida has been very helpful in decideing elections , let jeb bush and catfish harris help in fucking up another election, cant wait for florida to fuck us again!
Yeah Tyree, it'll all depend on how many Dems (read blacks) they decide to purge this time around...like Indiana
Floridiot @ 95:
yes florida has been very helpful in decideing elections , let jeb bush and catfish harris help in fucking up another election, cant wait for florida to fuck us again!
Yeah Tyree, it'll all depend on how many Dems (read blacks) they decide to purge this time around...like Indiana
tyree @ 90:
well thankfully i dont have any control over who the repigs screw over i beleive any registered voter should be allowed to vote!
No matter who wins, Rush is still going to be a millionaire while the vast majority of his 'listeners" are just going to get poorer and dumber! LOL!
Kathleen @ 84:
I lived in the Panhandle as well until 2004 (then I moved to NY). I worked for two different defense contractors and most of the employees were bone-deep ignorant about government. However, there were some that weren't averse to asking questions during the build up and subsequent attack on Iraq.
you need to blast this story and force the MSM to cover it so the superdelegates take this into consideration regardless the outcome of today's primaries -- it is having an affect and has in previous contests also . . . the MSM (and naturally the hillary pundits) downplay it but it is, indeed, an aweful assult on our democracy!:
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Ward-Bopp voted for the Democrat she liked, but Jim Adams, 36, voted for Hillary Clinton to keep the race going beyond Indiana. He's a McCain backer and enjoys watching the Democrats fight.
"In the end, I think McCain is going to win," Adams said, and then referred to controversial statements by Bill Clinton and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor. "Bill can't keep his mouth shut, and the reverend can't keep his mouth shut."
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the rush affect -- rush and his dittoheads should be charged with treason for disrespecting america's voting process! what could possibly be more ANTI-AMERICAN?
LINK: http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080506/NEWS0502/805...
Isome Hussein @ 98:
A majority of the Natives that I talk to are "bone-deep ignorant" about everything.
Says my brother-in-law about Georgia too.
Isome Hussein @ 98:
four uncles who are WWII vets and were engineers at WPAFB all against the invasion. One uncle who is a Col in the air force totally against the invasion.
Before the invasion I attended 4 anti war marches in Washington and New York. The crowds were made up of middle Americans. Many Vets. The MSM did not show the rest of the Americans sitting at home who was really at those marches. They would show the footage of some folks in black hoods over and over again.
The MSM did a real dis-service to Americans who had questions about the validity of the intelligence and the wisdom of invading a country that had not attacked the U.S.
And for the last four years that same MSM has allowed unsubstantiated claims about Iran to be endlessly repeated
Preamble: I have no dog in this hunt. All three individuals are fuck-ups.
Hoooooooo-kay. This kind of effort is called "strategy." The left might look into it, after exiting two presidential elections with nothing but their dick in their hands; unless you think that honestly espousing your sincere, tepid, non-clever, middle-of-the-road beliefs is getting you somewhere?
Yes, well you may recall the beast was also scheduled to die in 2000 and 2004. And you did nothing when both elections were taken from you via subterfuge. Keep telling yourselves that the election this fall is already sewn up. I already know how that ends. You have already proven that you will take your suspicions, and sit on your ass - in 4-year segments - without lifting a finger to contest or change things.
The GOP is stupid, but the left is lazy. I've given up on the left, and will never throw my lot in with this batch of losers again. You haven't reigned in your two self-absorbed, endlessly-warring politicos (which would require something more than numb passivity), and time that would otherwise be spent winning over swing voters is disappearing.
And should the GOP grab enough votes by smearing and subterfuge (the usual way, which will again come as a complete surprise to you naifs) after the selection of your candidate, you'll just roll over and take it again this fall. And in two months you'll be blog-o-whining about how unfair it was to reveal that thing about our candidate, imagining that morality actually wins elections.
Not after you failed to reign in Bush for 8 years! The race to the bottom is over (completed!). His despicable, low-standards are already installed and playing out in the political process.
tyree @ 90:
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Marge @ 74:
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The importance is not what effect it's having. The importance lies in the desire, on Rush's part, to see Hillary nominated.
Say what you want about that limpdick pill-popping sack of shit: he does have his hand on the pulse of the Republican party and knows right away which Dem candidate would be easier to beat.
spare me...
Many give Limpaugh waaaay too much power. Limpaugh kicked and battered around Bill Clinton for 8...count them...8 years and it got Bill elected and then re-elected....
Jennifer Flowers
That trailer trash looking, check holding, whore....whatzzz her name?
Remember these "winners" that Limpaugh squawked about hourly?
Limpaugh has no power over an election now or ever.
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tyree @ 90:
I would never let some anonymous person on a blog convince me to vote for one candidate over another. I will vote for the candidate whom I believe adheres closest to the principles of our constitution and the rule of law, and has the best ideas to strengthen our country moving forward.
P.S. I was for Edwards until he dropped out. Now leaning towards Obama. But I will vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is.
Didn't Daily Kos strive to get Dems to do this in Michigan as well?
[Deleted. Please quit launching personal attacks on dennis, m'kay? Sitemonitor] Pedo-Rush both support and defend destroying the democratic process.....not a big surprise.
"Unfortunately for them, whoever emerges as the Democratic nominee will mop the floor with John McCain."
Looks like the mop is getting a tad thin.
voter fraud? or is this actually a credible case of domestic terrorism?
solid @ 107:
and neither would i, i said the only difference between obama is she set to piss he stands up both say the same things only different ways, im just picking between to devils ill pich the one i know!
solid @ 44:
You're right! I don't think we should lay down & play nice. We don't have to lie & cheat like the thugs. Afterall, it seems all they have "on" Obama is guilt by association. With McCain it'll be guilt by, well, guilt.
sorry the devil i know
107 solid
I was for Edwards too, and hold Hillary and Barack about equal as junior senators. I'm backing Hillary right now for her no nonsense approach to public speaking, more like a business meeting than a revival tent.
However, I plan on voting for whoever the Democratic candidate is. Remember folks, the next president will probably choose both John Paul Stevens and Ruth Bader Ginsberg's successors.
tyree @ 114:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXtWkP-5WTQ
They should be called "Shit-O-Heads".
I can't stand Rush, but didn't Daily Kos advocate the same thing with the GOP primaries? Just asking....
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#101-The MSM did a real dis-service to Americans who had questions about the validity of the intelligence and the wisdom of invading a country that had not attacked the U.S.
And for the last four years that same MSM has allowed unsubstantiated claims about Iran to be endlessly repeated---------------Where is the OUTRAGE from the MSM over Hillary's remarks to OBLITERATE Iran? Is THIS a woman,a mother herself that would actually,unequivocally decimate an entire country ? Who's next on her list.? How does this engender respect and hope in areas of the world where we need it the most? Is there no end to blood lust?
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"“How many dittoheads does it take to change a primary?”
I don't know but I'm thinking more than it took conservative activist judges to change an election. It only took 5 of those.
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I'm done with you Tyree. If you pass out from a heart attack because you're mad at me, the authorities will link it to our argument and I'll go to prison for manslaughter. Take it easy.
[Thanks Left&Left-Sitemonitor]
tyree @ 123:
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be glad to ! ive said my piece , finally ! i wont get into the dementia thinggy , i think im as good as i ever was in that department !
[Thank you tyree. And I know I can count on you to do the same, Left&Left-Sitemonitor]
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[Tyree, give it a rest. This exchange had nothing to do with you. You said you got to say your peace, but I see you've come back with a load of retorts since. Please stop it. Thanks-Sitemonitor]
I always thought if there was any changing to do we guys would all call the little lady
And leave the room in a hurry gagging.
Renell @ 122:
Probably because the context of a hypothetical question was what she would do if Iran used nuclear warheads to obliterate Israel.
There is just something fun about watching conservatism die.
Limbaugh is simply elbowing his way in front of the famous "Bradley Effect" that has been working on Obama's poll numbers verses his election results from the beginning to fool his idiot dittoheads into thinking his "Operation Chaos" has something to do with it. Not so. When Hillary winds up getting more votes and Obama winds up getter fewer votes on election day than the polls indicated they would, it is all about The Bradley Effect and has nothing to do with "Operation Chaos".
It's been that way from the beginning but mainstream media has been much more interested in attributing the phenomenon to the crafty "calculation" of the Clintons or "manipulation genius" or Rush Limabaugh. For example, the reason the New Hampshire primary election numbers were so much greater for Clinton and weaker for Obama than the pre-election polls had indicated was because of The Bradley Effect and not because Hillary teared up about her public service the day before.
Same with virtually every major state primary ever since. Clinton gets a bit more votes than the pre-election polls indicated she would and Obama gets a bit fewer. It isn't because she "cried", it isn't because of Limbaugh's Operation Chaos. It's because of The Bradley Effect where more people tell polsters they'll vote for the non-white candidate than actually vote for him when they walk into the voting booth.
Limbaugh has simply found another way to rake in ratings and income on the stupidity of his loyal listeners and the mainstream media who will publicize his snake oil concession by spending so much as one minute discussing it.
The Bradley Effect
Brought to you by Milton-Bradley.
Rush couldn't convince Republicans to vote against John McCain why would anybody believe they would change parties to vote for Hillary because he told them to?
For the past few months Rush has been mentioned on the big cable networks frequently. They ignored him for years now they cover what he says as if it were news. Me thinks it makes good TV. Viewers like conflict.
ok if im banned say so dont just shitcan my replys , i asked you what you didnt understand about left and lefts post being racisttttttttt
whats this looks like an attack on me
[Tyree. I missed it. I'll take it down. Now please drop it-Sitemonitor]
yes no problem , i dont ask for anything but a fair shake on here ,
anyway the weathers great here in indiana the parking lot was filled with hillary bumper stickers , long lines and happy voters we had diebold machines so it should be interesting ,
tyree @ 136:
Not at McDonalds.
Samson- @ 83:
You ignoramus. First of all, that quote is originally attributed to historian Alex Tytler, not Reagan. Alex de Tocqueville also echoed similar sentiments. The quote is not about "democratic principles." It's about Democracy as a form of government.
In case you didn't realize, this country was founded as a Republic, NOT a Democracy. Unlike you, the individuals that founded this country were students of history and viewed a Democracy as one of the worst forms of government because it amounts to a tyranny of the majority, where individual rights ended up being subserviant to the whims of the mob.
ysbaddaden @ 138:
thats good yes, im not wanting to start anything back up ,but i was told by the site moniter that the statements made against marge were none of my buisness , the fact that my bloods cherokee does not mean i approve of a certain posters racisist remarks on here , we should allways hold thoes who do it in contempt , and its my understanding its the site moniters job to keep that sort of thing off here , if im wrong show me where!
personally, if i was a down-ticket republican who lost trying to get on the november general ballot because potential votes were being cast on the democratic ticket, i might be a bit miffed at the drug-addeled gasbag
Markos at Dkos was advocating Dems do the same thing back during the Republican Michigan primary. Urging Dems to vote for Mitt Romney I believe, in hopes of prolonging the Republican primary freak-show.
I love Markos and Dkos, but where was the criticism of him for doing the exact same thing?
xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 8:
LOL dang you beat me to that one!!
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