Jon Perr wrote a great piece yesterday about the Lieberman/Hagee deal and asked if Joe still believed Hagee was Moses. I guess we received our answer because Joe Lieberman has confirmed that he will speak at Pastor Hagee's big Summit after McCain disavowed him.

Sen. Joe Lieberman says he'll speak at a July conference hosted by Rev. John Hagee, whose endorsement was recently rejected by Republican John McCain because of Hagee's controversial remarks about religion.

Lieberman, one of presumed GOP presidential nominee McCain's strongest supporters, said Wednesday while Hagee's comments were unacceptable and hurtful, he will judge him on his life work fighting anti-Semitism and building bridges between Christians and Jews. Lieberman, I-Conn., will speak at Hagee's "Christians United for Israel" summit in Washington.

McCain last week repudiated the months-old endorsement by the preacher after an audio recording surfaced in which Hagee said God sent Adolf Hitler to help Jews reach the promised land.

Will the media jump all over him? And if not, why? Rabbi David Saperstein has a great piece posted in Newsweek asking other Jewish leaders to back off from supporting Hagee. So why is Lieberman still supporting Hagee after he hurt McCain's presidential run? He obviously knew about his extreme behavior and opinions for a very long time. Has Lieberman received funds from Pastor Hagee? I'd like someone to investigate that. <corrected>



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Holy Joe can't say 'No' to Moses.

Joe has gone over the cliff and ...........(someone else finish this for me)...

Goodbye Joe.

I'd like to see the media completely ingnore him. Let's declare Joe an "invisible" man!

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i..am...thrilled lieberman is going to hagees little feel good symposium. come next election cycle the people of connecticut will *not* understand the follies of a bible belter preacher. joe is ending his own career with this abysmal misstep.

joe is NOT pretending to be a democrat.

harry reid is NOT pretending to be a Democratic Party leader.

no coincidence.

McCain should renounce Joe Lieberman...

Hagee is NOT doing anything for the Jewish people out of his love for Isreal or love for the people who live there. He and his sick mind believe that they need Isreal to bring about Armageddon, thus the end of mankind. They need an Isreal for the sake of their sick prophesis that Jesus will return after this holy war with Iran and the US and Isreal has begun. He does not support Isreal for anything other than his sick int he head beliefs that an Isreal is needed to bring about Armaggedon and etenal suffering of us all. He and his ilk are TRYING to destroy the earth for their sick beliefs. So spare me he helps Isreal, its not for the good of Isreal or for humankind, but for his sick beliefws about an invisable cloud being and his supposed kid. He is an insane asshole, nothing more.

Blue Lensman @ 4:

I'd like to see the media completely ingnore him. Let's declare Joe an "invisible" man!

as long as LIEberman is available to display democratic party disunity, they will play his BS all over the working tv that sits on the non-working tv.

Lieberman hasn't just jumped the shark, he has jumped the entire Red Sea.

Cut him loose, he's useless and crazy as hell to boot.

sassafra @ 6:

i..am...thrilled lieberman is going to hagees little feel good symposium. come next election cycle the people of connecticut will *not* understand the follies of a bible belter preacher. joe is ending his own career with this abysmal misstep.

Hope it works.

Personally, I don't really care that Lieberman is in bed with Hagee. Heck, I think it's a good idea. Anything that hurts his career is good for America. What I'd like to know is if Lieberman even considers himself Jewish anymore. Is he perhaps a Messianic Jew? Seriously, I don't know. It would certainly explain a lot. Maybe he's praying for Armageddon along with Hagee's nutty followers.

I dunno. The whole thing makes my head hurt.

Wasn't Moses a Hebrew?

And for those that missed it - LIEberman was last night's

WORST Person in the WOOORRRRRRRLLLLLD!

it always amazes me that Isreali supporters,and Jewish people especially, don't fully understand that once these Christian end-of-dayers get the Jewish people to build the new temple in Jerusalem then the Christians expect the Jews to convert to Christianity or else burn in hell with all the other non-believers. they have no respect for the Jewish religion and are only hoping to see the second-coming of Christ. and if it means destroying the world with nukes then that's fine and dandy because that's how they see the book of Revalations and, really, this world is for the body and heaven is for the soul. dangerous people to have as friends.

What is the point of Lieberman doing this? I mean seriously, why would he pursue this?

I truly think Lieberman has lost his mind.

pissed off patricia @ 17:

What is the point of Lieberman doing this? I mean seriously, why would he pursue this?

Easy - to campaign for McInsane!

Is any journalist or site tracking all the taxpayer funded
"bush faith based programs" or where the funds are going?

Any Haggee in there?

EMT-Prick @ 16:

it always amazes me that Isreali supporters,and Jewish people especially, don't fully understand that once these Christian end-of-dayers get the Jewish people to build the new temple in Jerusalem then the Christians expect the Jews to convert to Christianity or else burn in hell with all the other non-believers. they have no respect for the Jewish religion and are only hoping to see the second-coming of Christ. and if it means destroying the world with nukes then that's fine and dandy because that's how they see the book of Revalations and, really, this world is for the body and heaven is for the soul. dangerous people to have as friends.

As I said over at TP: I'm waiting for someone to ask Joe if he has excepted Jesus as his personal saviour.

pissed off patricia @ 17:

What is the point of Lieberman doing this? I mean seriously, why would he pursue this?

Because Lieberman is out of his mind. Out of his fucking mind!!!!

What better way for a shithead to be introduced than with another shithead performing the introduction ..............

I would like to see a poll of people who live in Connecticut asking what they think of their Israeli Senator.

EMT-Prick @ 16:

it always amazes me that Isreali supporters,and Jewish people especially, don't fully understand that once these Christian end-of-dayers get the Jewish people to build the new temple in Jerusalem then the Christians expect the Jews to convert to Christianity or else burn in hell with all the other non-believers. they have no respect for the Jewish religion and are only hoping to see the second-coming of Christ. and if it means destroying the world with nukes then that's fine and dandy because that's how they see the book of Revalations and, really, this world is for the body and heaven is for the soul. dangerous people to have as friends.

I think the Jewish people understand exactly what is going on. They know the fundies think the Jewish people should be given anything they want and be protected at all cost even if it is for the fundies reward in the "end".

It would be like my neighbor thinking at some time he will convert me to Christianity and when that happens Jesus will show up and take him to heaven. My neighbor wouldn't want anything to happen to me and would do whatever he could to see that I had everything I wanted so that one day he could meet Jesus. He would be feigning concern for my well being, but his concern for his own well being is what drives his actions.

So this neighbor is bestowing me with gifts and security at every turn, am I going to turn down his efforts? Maybe not.

At least Joe isn't Catholic, they're pagans to Hagee, iirc.

Lieberman and Hagee..... Well, just two peas in a pod... Fuckers deserve one another... And finally when the nation does turn its back on these two and their ilk. They can cry and whine about it, and stew in their own juices together lamenting how unfair it all is.... Lieberman is a 'which way is the wind blowing' crass opportunistic weakass excuse for a politician, I won't even sully the word statesman by any comparison of that term to him... And Hagee? Pa-the-tic!!... Weakest ass excuse for a man of god I've ever seen trotting his christo-fascist ass out for public consumption since... Well since the likes of Falwell (RIHMF) walked the earth spewing his bullshit... I swear, with people like this guy and Robertson, and Roberts, and Dobson et all, out front as spokesmen for their religious beliefs, I frankly don't see how organized religion in general can survive being in bed with the likes of these charlatans and snakeoil salespukes.................JD

I like to imagine Joe as Charlie Brown and McCain as Lucy:

"I know you went to the Middle East and cast all those votes for me but I still need you to do one more thing. You still wanna be the veep, right?"

But where will Joe be when the ball is pulled away that final time? All alone in the congressional cafeteria.

SCREAMING MODERATE @ 21:

EMT-Prick @ 16:

it always amazes me that Isreali supporters,and Jewish people especially, don't fully understand that once these Christian end-of-dayers get the Jewish people to build the new temple in Jerusalem then the Christians expect the Jews to convert to Christianity or else burn in hell with all the other non-believers. they have no respect for the Jewish religion and are only hoping to see the second-coming of Christ. and if it means destroying the world with nukes then that's fine and dandy because that's how they see the book of Revalations and, really, this world is for the body and heaven is for the soul. dangerous people to have as friends.

As I said over at TP: I'm waiting for someone to ask Joe if he has excepted Jesus as his personal saviour.

Since Joe is a Jew, I think he has indeed excepted Jesus as his personal saviour.

Rusty Shackleford @ 29:

SCREAMING MODERATE @ 21:

EMT-Prick @ 16:

it always amazes me that Isreali supporters,and Jewish people especially, don't fully understand that once these Christian end-of-dayers get the Jewish people to build the new temple in Jerusalem then the Christians expect the Jews to convert to Christianity or else burn in hell with all the other non-believers. they have no respect for the Jewish religion and are only hoping to see the second-coming of Christ. and if it means destroying the world with nukes then that's fine and dandy because that's how they see the book of Revalations and, really, this world is for the body and heaven is for the soul. dangerous people to have as friends.

As I said over at TP: I'm waiting for someone to ask Joe if he has excepted Jesus as his personal saviour.

Since Joe is a Jew, I think he has indeed excepted Jesus as his personal saviour.

Without any acceptions.

dosido @ 8:

McCain should renounce Joe Lieberman...

THAT would be a hoot!

Blue Lensman @ 28:

I like to imagine Joe as Charlie Brown and McCain as Lucy:

"I know you went to the Middle East and cast all those votes for me but I still need you to do one more thing. You still wanna be the veep, right?"

But where will Joe be when the ball is pulled away that final time? All alone in the congressional cafeteria.

Like Jon Stewart said, they'll need someone to pick up the shoes when they all go up to heaven!

Why do I feel like it is more like Jim Jones than Jesus that is making his second coming?

The RNC has put up a clock to count how many days it has been since Senator Obama was last in Iraq. Copying of course the Fox clock that counted how many days it had been since the Senator was invited to appear on Fox.

Jeez, sometimes you just want to slap these folks up the side of the head and tell them to grow up and stop playing these childish little games. Name calling and game playing look so freaking stupid at such an important time as this.

Between the preachers, the clocks and all the rest of it, you would think an idiot child was pulling the strings in the repub party.

Kel Brady @ 9:

Hagee is NOT doing anything for the Jewish people out of his love for Isreal or love for the people who live there. He and his sick mind believe that they need Isreal to bring about Armageddon, thus the end of mankind. They need an Isreal for the sake of their sick prophesis that Jesus will return after this holy war with Iran and the US and Isreal has begun. He does not support Isreal for anything other than his sick int he head beliefs that an Isreal is needed to bring about Armaggedon and etenal suffering of us all. He and his ilk are TRYING to destroy the earth for their sick beliefs. So spare me he helps Isreal, its not for the good of Isreal or for humankind, but for his sick beliefws about an invisable cloud being and his supposed kid. He is an insane asshole, nothing more.

and hagee and his flock will ask the jews at armageddon if they accept jeebus. whatever they say, I'd recommend "yes!", or they get put to the sword. I'm just the messenger here.

Well, as I see it, Senator Droopy should continue to support Pastor Piggy, which will provide the left with endless ammo.

Go, Droopy, go!

It's no surprise that Lieberman is hanging out with fellow religious nuts. Hagee's a fundamentalist christian and Joe is a fundamentalist jew. Wonder what a jewish messiah would do to christians and their false messiah jesus...

But does hagee's CUFI match his collar?

Liverman knows he will not be re-elected. He wants either an ambassadorship or a seat in the Bush McSenile cabinet. He knows he can't be vise prez as Cheney has already spoken for that position.

Uh oh..here's what the Talmud says about jewish end times:

from.....http://www.ety.com/HRP/jewishstudies/lieberman.htm

"eventually all the wealth of the Gentiles shall be delivered to the Jews, that the Jews shall -- quote -- "suck the milk of the Gentiles" and -- quote -- "eat the wealth of the Gentiles," while the Gentiles all become servants of the Jews -- or to use Isaiah's quaint mode of expression, the Gentiles shall -- quote -- "stand and feed your flocks" and -- quote -- "be your plowmen and your vinedressers."

I love this religious contempt monotheist have for each other.

Everyone sees LIEberman for he is. And who cares? He is not running for POTUS.

John -

I understand that it's silly to associate yourself with Hagee when the question is politics. In general, politicians are best off being mainstream Christians.

But I don't see why it is silly for a person to attend CUFI. Many people believe exactly what Hagee argues. He is not (by a long shot) the only person to say that G*d "allowed" Hitler to rise to power for some strange reason related to European Jews. Maybe Lieberman believes some form of this, too. And, even if he doesn't, how is Lieberman's attendance at CUFI critically different from Obama (for example) talking to Syria, Iran, or North Korea? Maybe Lieberman is engaging in diplomacy of a sort.

Now, if you could first demonstrate that Hagee doesn't believe what he says and that Lieberman knows this, then you'd have a point. But, as of now, it looks like you are criticizing a person who happens to be a politician for associating with a certain religious group. And that, if it is what you're doing, is unacceptable to me.

ps. before you switch over to something like "but Hagee called the Catholic church a whore" please do two things: watch that entire piece in context and ask yourself whether prostitute isn't a decent summary label for what he accuses the Catholic Church of doing

JTM @ 41:

John -

I understand that it's silly to associate yourself with Hagee when the question is politics. In general, politicians are best off being mainstream Christians.

But I don't see why it is silly for a person to attend CUFI. Many people believe exactly what Hagee argues. He is not (by a long shot) the only person to say that G*d "allowed" Hitler to rise to power for some strange reason related to European Jews. Maybe Lieberman believes some form of this, too. And, even if he doesn't, how is Lieberman's attendance at CUFI critically different from Obama (for example) talking to Syria, Iran, or North Korea? Maybe Lieberman is engaging in diplomacy of a sort.

Now, if you could first demonstrate that Hagee doesn't believe what he says and that Lieberman knows this, then you'd have a point. But, as of now, it looks like you are criticizing a person who happens to be a politician for associating with a certain religious group. And that, if it is what you're doing, is unacceptable to me.

ps. before you switch over to something like "but Hagee called the Catholic church a whore" please do two things: watch that entire piece in context and ask yourself whether prostitute isn't a decent summary label for what he accuses the Catholic Church of doing

They are planning the extinction of the human race!!! That is unacceptable to me.

JTM @ 41:

John -

I understand that it's silly to associate yourself with Hagee when the question is politics. In general, politicians are best off being mainstream Christians.

But I don't see why it is silly for a person to attend CUFI. Many people believe exactly what Hagee argues. He is not (by a long shot) the only person to say that G*d "allowed" Hitler to rise to power for some strange reason related to European Jews. Maybe Lieberman believes some form of this, too. And, even if he doesn't, how is Lieberman's attendance at CUFI critically different from Obama (for example) talking to Syria, Iran, or North Korea? Maybe Lieberman is engaging in diplomacy of a sort.

Now, if you could first demonstrate that Hagee doesn't believe what he says and that Lieberman knows this, then you'd have a point. But, as of now, it looks like you are criticizing a person who happens to be a politician for associating with a certain religious group. And that, if it is what you're doing, is unacceptable to me.

ps. before you switch over to something like "but Hagee called the Catholic church a whore" please do two things: watch that entire piece in context and ask yourself whether prostitute isn't a decent summary label for what he accuses the Catholic Church of doing

I've been watching Mr. Hagee on TV for years. It's just amazing to see so much insanity in one mind. I can't stop laughing the entire time. You never know what is going to pop out of his mouth next. My question is this; how did this nut-job end up so politically powerful? He doesn't have many followers. You would have to be pretty dumb to buy into this guys crap. I can't imagine his followers being smart enough to make enough money to support a TV show and a mega-church, let alone dole out large campaign contributions. I think this guys whole operation is just a front to launder drug money into political war-chests.

Jo Says
"They are planning the extinction of the human race!!! That is unacceptable to me."

Yep.......these people are dangerous.

Bitter Bud Hussein @ 18:

I truly think Lieberman has lost his mind.

You think?! lol

Hagee wants to bomb Iran too. It's that simple. Obviously, for Joe Lieberman, this is the only thing that matters. Politics over principles. Way to go, Joe!

Here's a good link about why Joe Lieberman and others (Bill Kristol) are partners with Hagee. This is what it's all about:

Jon Stewart said it best..."Someone replaced Lieberman's Manischewicz with CRAZY JUICE!"

It's as if Ted Kennedy were to share a podium with a "minister" who claimed God created the potato famine in order to populate America with the Irish.

Surely Connecticut has a mechanism by which Lieberman may be recalled.

max @ 47:

Here's a good link about why Joe Lieberman and others (Bill Kristol) are partners with Hagee. This is what it's all about:

Okay that was frightening as hell. Didn't we used to call people like this insane?

Yeah, that's exactly what it is -- frightening as hell. This is what it's all about. This is why Joe Lieberman will denounce everyone in the Democratic party - but he won't denounce Hagee.

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?articleId=11541

Joe, an unstoppable suck-ass forever searching for that VP slot. Any party will do.

Kel Brady @ 9:

Hagee is NOT doing anything for the Jewish people out of his love for Isreal or love for the people who live there. He and his sick mind believe that they need Isreal to bring about Armageddon, thus the end of mankind. They need an Isreal for the sake of their sick prophesis that Jesus will return after this holy war with Iran and the US and Isreal has begun. He does not support Isreal for anything other than his sick int he head beliefs that an Isreal is needed to bring about Armaggedon and etenal suffering of us all. He and his ilk are TRYING to destroy the earth for their sick beliefs. So spare me he helps Isreal, its not for the good of Isreal or for humankind, but for his sick beliefws about an invisable cloud being and his supposed kid. He is an insane asshole, nothing more.

This is what Hagee is doing in Israel.

He is stirring up a lot of pain for those who are not missionaries. The linked article is incorrect in stating the boy who was injured by the bomb was the son of a "Christian missionary". Several people at my church know this family and they are simply believers - nothing missionary about them. The missionaries that Hagee has there have the Jews so stirred up that they will go after any Christians who are living in their neighborhoods. The bomb that is mentioned was left at the door disguised as a Purim gift. The local authorities are positive it had been left by Jews.

Hagee is causing a lot of pain in an area of the world he has little understanding of. I hope a warm place in hell is reserved for this good "Christian" man.

Ah crap, technical problems. Click on the above and the link is still there anyway! Sorry for my lack of closing click folks.

JTM @ 41:

Now, if you could first demonstrate that Hagee doesn't believe what he says and that Lieberman knows this, then you'd have a point. But, as of now, it looks like you are criticizing a person who happens to be a politician for associating with a certain religious group. And that, if it is what you're doing, is unacceptable to me.

Hagee is clearly a man of the flesh who understands that armageddon is a very lucrative endeavor: he's a multi-millionaire fatso who's clearly using the promise (?) of the "next world" as an effective means for enjoying the delights of this world, whether they are jets, mansions, or all-you-can-eat prayer breakfasts. The man is a charlatan on the same order as Alardyce T. Merriwhether in Little Big Man, who in a moment of uncharacteristic honesty tells Jack Crabb: "The two-legged creature will believe anything, the more preposterous the better!"

As for Lieberman, if he hasn't figured out that in Hagee's ostensible world view, the good Senator and his fellow Jews are bound for Hell, then he's as stupid as he is dishonest. And if he's willing to sell out to the Fundy Christians so that they can maintain hope for their precious Armageddon, well maybe Hagee got the real whore wrong.

It's confirmed: Lieberman is still a stupid fuck.

To the Connecticut Democrats and Ned Lamont: thanks for trying to get rid of this schmuck. Sorry you didn't succeed.

To the rest of Connecticut that re-elected this numbnuts...Up Yours.

MCMetal @ 23:

What better way for a shithead to be introduced than with another shithead performing the introduction ..............

That was a good one.........i needed the laugh.

Blue Lensman @ 19:

pissed off patricia @ 17:

What is the point of Lieberman doing this? I mean seriously, why would he pursue this?

Easy - to campaign for McInsane!

Do you even to ask? Isn't it obvious? Joe represents the Right Wing in Israel. He cides with anyone who will continue the fight against Israel's enemies and he is aggressively pursuing a conflict with Iran. So is Hagee and McCain. The sad part is that most people just dismiss him as a loon. But he's not. He's got an agenda and he is moving full speed ahead with it.

Kel Brady @ 9:

Hagee is NOT doing anything for the Jewish people out of his love for Isreal or love for the people who live there. He and his sick mind believe that they need Isreal to bring about Armageddon, thus the end of mankind. They need an Isreal for the sake of their sick prophesis that Jesus will return after this holy war with Iran and the US and Isreal has begun. He does not support Isreal for anything other than his sick int he head beliefs that an Isreal is needed to bring about Armaggedon and etenal suffering of us all. He and his ilk are TRYING to destroy the earth for their sick beliefs. So spare me he helps Isreal, its not for the good of Isreal or for humankind, but for his sick beliefws about an invisable cloud being and his supposed kid. He is an insane asshole, nothing more.

you need to hear someone like medved speak on this point

he basically says, "who cares if they believe in fairy tales, as long as they support israel, send money and love jews"

and here is the danger....these same people, only a short time ago were saying that all jews were going to hell because they were non believers

they thought that tact would bring in jews as converts...it didnt work

so they changed their tact and became lovers of jews...and trust me, as one of the people, we really just wanna be loved....after thousands of years of being treated as 3rd class citizens and being kicked out of every country we ended up, we just wanna be loved

and these people will indeed love us to death

oh, and it doesnt matter what a reform rabbi says, lieberman sees himself as an orthodox jew (he isnt really, he is somewhat observant) and he really could care less what a reform rabbi says....however, if someone could get to holy joe's rabbi and find out what he things of hagee...that may cause some issues

is it november yet? i really wanna watch this man cry like a little bitch

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pissed off patricia @ 17:

What is the point of Lieberman doing this? I mean seriously, why would he pursue this?

He's getting "even" with all those "lefties" who booted him out in favor of Ned Lamont. You gotta admit one thing, Joe can really hold a grudge!

Do you think the people of Connecticutt will be dumb enough to buy his Independent-Democrat bullshit again in 2012?

Old Joe is a real piece of work. Is he actually trying to call himself a Democrat? What gets me about these Christian Zionists is that their interest in Israel and the Jews is totally self-serving, not due to any kind of loyalty, empathy, kinship, respect, etc. According to them, all Jews will burn in hell if they don't accept Jesus Christ as their savior. I don't know, there's just something kind of sick about this relationship.

Lollimom @ 35:

Well, as I see it, Senator Droopy should continue to support Pastor Piggy, which will provide the left with endless ammo.

Go, Droopy, go!

They can go down in flames, together.

I can't wait until all this Bush mess is over, because Bush & company must have something on Lieberman & when it's all said & done I would love to know the money these crazy old men are making off of this war but "WHAT'S DONE IN THE DARK COMES TO THE LIGHT"...Joe Lieberman is really the one who has lost his bearings.

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